Me loose òffa all a uno on this show because we put all of our trust in these two party and look what we are getting for so many years . An its mr Patterson uno a attack ❤💛💚🕶
And to hear Mr Rattigan with the visa talk was such nonsense. Basically, he’s telling us that Jamaica will always be subjugated by people of power and never look to save ourselves.Smh
@@coolguy5409: To protest and arrested is not a criminal breach as Rattigan said to the panel and to us looking in from the outside. It is completely nonsense he is telling us,and I was expecting better from him. I am a ex-cop from the JCF and not like today`s cops on the island. I did policing in Grand Cayman as well for one month back then along with nine others from the JCF.
Listening to all you guys... Lonesome, Rattigan and the other two guys... I just cannot understand... Jamaica needs change. If not the UIC then what or who ??
So now that I listened to the whole thing .... Jeffrey ah waste of time... lonesome wants a new horse fi bet pon but even though him lose off the other two horses him want a sure bet. Mr. Nelson is waiting and hoping and Rattigan accepts that both main parties have been useless but still stalling... he wants a revolution but telling people to think about their visa for USA ..... MADDD..
Respect to you Mr. Ratigan you're an an inspiration to us all and you makes us feel like there's hopes for us getting back our country from the political pirates ☠️
Thank you Rattigan for inviting Mr.Joseph Patterson on your programme. That is the man that is going to get Jmaica on the right track and to add to that he is going to investigate PNP/JLP from 1962 to the present time re-their ASSETS ,including lands etc,how they achieved them them.
Wayne's question to Mr. Patterson is cringe-worthy because it is entirely devoid of sense-making! His Gish gallop is a circuitous cluster of blabbers that are of the mule- braying ilk!
To guide the comportment of the forum, Wilfred should formulate some "Rules of Order" to accord with the "Five-Ts:" Timbre, Timing, Temperament, Tone, and Topic. With respect to topic, the discourse should be oriented by the "Four-S Rule:" Substance, Specificity, Salience, and Sense-making.
I am very impressed with Joseph Patterson. I think Wayne lonesome, Rattigan and Jefferson questions were off. They were repeated several times and he had answered them repeatedly. And he explained himself over and over sufficiently but because you guys did not get the answer you were looking for you badger Joseph Patterson, and he was quite right that people on the Wayne Lonsome Panel was aiming to discredit him and to paint a picture not of a heroe but of a law breaker knowing full well he saved the Jamaican people from further death and destruction that would occur had he not done what he did. And knowing fully well the court system and the police are inherently corrupt. The guy may have some candidates but they are still in the vetting stage so he does not wish to certify and release them yet I expected more understanding from Wayne Lonesome. And Rattigan keep pressing about the way Patterson protested when he knows his way would be futile. I think you should all apologies to him what he is doing is very hard we should not try to make him look like a criminal. That is what they did to Marcus Garvey do not kill this leader he is there to break the grip of the two parties who have not helped the country. He is even asking for support and you guys are not lending him any hand.
Sir I must commend you. You absolutely nailed it. Me Rattigan using his legalistic approach, knowing well that not because something is a law means it’s right.
Mr.Patterson was clever than all of them. Mr.Patterson is no fool. I saw fools on the panel asking the qestions over and over again several times,although Mr.Pattersom had answers them. The whole show was to discredit Mr.Patterson. But they failed.
So true, Mr lonesome needs to tone down his ego. I think he would feel better if The UIC has a candidate in his community he would have a different approach. And I think every $ donated should share through the UIC not just a candidate you approve of. Only educated jamaican is going to understand what the UIC is all about.
I am already a member of the UIC. But after this showing, I am super impressed with my President Joseph Pattrrson. He showed superior intelligence and leadership abilities. He was unshakeable and smart. He did not go for cheap support or quick wins. He appreciated the issues even when the idiots on the forum tried to crucify him in public. Great man...
Marcus Garvey,Sam Sharp,Nanny and other ancestors of ours have been through the same thing as Mr Patteron. People,let’s unite and take back Jamaica and make it a better place.
I lesson to wayne interview mark and I never see any insult or disrespect so why uno a try fe make the man look small uno cannot stop people from vote for the UIC.
Please 🙏 please 🙏 please 🙏 keep the fire 🔥 light keep the heat on please don’t drop the ball we in the Diaspora have your back enough is enough THANK for your courage of putting those politicians on NOTICE THANKS to all of you gentlemen you have given me HOPE
Mr Patterson is a good leader and he don't have to do what he is doing he can go an live outside of Jamaica and go work and take care of his family's .why wayne is saying Mr Patterson can't be a prime minister. Look who was and now who is Jamaica prime Minister ❤💛💚🕶
Mr Patterson is the guest & has to be fighting to be allowed to speak. My gosh! Why the pugnacious attitude to the gentleman? Why does he have to keep saying "hold on" in order to be able to speak? Mr Rattigan(the host no less) does not appear to be in control of this here show.
Noel James: That was a very stupid suggestion by Rattigan and I wonder if Rattigan had forgotten all about black people demonstrating all over the USA in the 60`s to be treated equally and the right to vote. Hundreds of black people lost their lives,children as well shot and killed by racist police officers in peaceful demonstrations, that "He Rattigan" today can say he was a FBI agent. I stand corrected,but blacks in the USA started voting in 1967. And racism is still strong in the USA. I say here LONG LIVE THE UIC.
Rattigan; Those people paid with their lives children as well that you "Rattigan" to day can tell us that you are a retired FBI agent. You should be boosting up Mr.Joseph Patterson instead with his demonstrations remembering that people and children paid with their lives so that you could become a FBI agent. The FBI Chief in those periods was the racist John Edgar HOOVER. God sent Mr.Joseph Patterson to help jamaica and you and your panel can not stop him. Big up Herb from the panel. He is a thinking individual.
Loooool trouble deh deh good move guys no funny Shakey move run here family movement equal rights and justice good over evil no bad vybz.keep up the good work to all you here educating The Nation I appreciate you guys now I see where I stand where I coming from and surely know where am going 💯🌍🔑🙌😇🙏
He has a point about the protest. If the heros didn't stand up we would still be slaves. Andrew is a bully and he needs someone to match him, uno need to give ppl a chance after which you can dicide to chastise the man. Tavares is too much, he needs to chill.why are we having a discussion about this issue when gunman and thieves killing and robbing everyday.
This show could have been run better. Callers just jumping in to ask a question without any kind of organisation. Rattigan must try to organise it better. Mr Nelson is in the middle of a question and a caller is allowed to jump in to ask something else. Just a mix up!
Jeffrey you have family inside the parliament right now killing Jamaican people with corruption so why you don't talk about them .Mr Patterson is not inside of parliament ❤💛💚🕶
Trust me, I’m so disgusted at them. I must say that I like both gentlemen, but they both sound like they were pushing some other agenda. However, the true leader Mr Patterson is, was not fazed
What Rattigan should do as he is the host of the forum,was to have a time set out for callers to call in, rather than having callers calling in when members of the forum are in conversation with Mr.Patterson.
Mr Patterson said he taking donations from the poorer class of people and from overseas contributions that means you have a choice to give and not to give.
Mr. Rattigan, you need to select panel members who are intelligent enough to ask a sensible question. Your panel is much too ignorant to figure out a, b, c...
Herb did ask sensible questions tho. And mark you, I’m not into no echo chamber business. I love when Mr Patterson is asked tough and even nonsensical questions, because it makes me see more of his fortitude.
A quick observation, Mr Rattigan needs a producer to take calls and note the questions being asked who will feed them to him so he can introduce them in a uninterrupted fashion . The answers to questions is the reason why we’re listening and when answers are interrupted it creates frustrating listening
Honestly I listened this in its entirety and I am appalled at the ignorance of us Jamaicand and out willingness to be abused and justify the injustice. I honestly think everyone including Mr Rattigan had a biased and supports on if the two colonial parties because the questions asked had nothing to do with Mr Patterson and his position as it regards his vision for Jamaica etc it just seems as if it's an attack like these ppl came prepared to respond rather than listening and responding non biased but this just shows me the dinosaurs in the Jamaican politic field needs to step down and take a back seat and that educated doesn't mean intelligent smh.
Mi love this I bin reaching out to bout you Mr Rattigan an lonesome. For this conversation with the UIC president just to hear his views for Jamaica going forward. I really respect this . Again I'm not affiliated with no parties in Jamaica especially the current 2 . But most Jamaican are open for a change . 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Did the PNP and the JLP members all declare them CV so you people are acting like me Patterson is apart of the government .the man needs all of our support to help make the change .UIC is totally different from the JLP and the PNP because the UIC is trying to make all Jamaican people become a true suvrine an move from under the queen order and crown .PNP and JLP for all these years is still working for the corporation wayne needs to do some more research on ❤💛💚🕶
I wish that the panelists would have joined together and help Mr Patteron with the UIC movement instead of putting him in the same category as the JLP and PNP.
Most of you on this platform lives abroad, mr patterson lives in jamaica he can clearly see what is going on here in jamaica, none of you have to put up with the fear we have to live with every single day, fear is the capital of jamaica now, i am not saying i agree with mr patterson all the way, but try and see from his point and help him. Let us all work together instead of trying to ridicule him. We fear the police, the army , the lawyers, the bankers, you name it.
Mr. Patterson has no sober or cogent macro-, micro-, and mesoeconomic ideas as planks in his political platform. He is seemingly pandering to the anarchistic rampage in Jamaica with his loose and lewd ethos.
Main weaknesses I’ve detected are that he appears to be very combative, arrogant, not very open and accommodating to alternative ideas/suggestions from others, not likable and not a uniter of ppl. In short, a very weak, inexperienced politician who should stick to accounting in a back room somewhere🔥
I respectfully disagree with you. Mr Patterson exhibit what a true leader is…and I’m basing it on what others have said. The problem with Mr Patterson, is that, sadly, people don’t know what a quality leader is, and so when them meet a strong and confident person, they’ll say he arrogant.
Douglas any person with a visible degree of integrity, a vision for the country, the youth and displays a level of intelligence and humility, has got to be much better than the majority of politicians or political representatives and co 🤡/ 🐱/🐷👔/ 🦀 / 🐊/👮🍼we have today.
@@bevsmith2040 agreed you don't need a degree to have sense, all these scammer politicians only have education to scam us. As long as the current politicians are allowed to continue things will get from bad to worse. I personally don't mesh with Mr Patterson but he cannot be worse than what we have.
Panel and host good grilling with no apology mr Patterson have a vision for jamaica
Me loose òffa all a uno on this show because we put all of our trust in these two party and look what we are getting for so many years . An its mr Patterson uno a attack ❤💛💚🕶
real talk Patterson mek dem look like idiot tho
And to hear Mr Rattigan with the visa talk was such nonsense. Basically, he’s telling us that Jamaica will always be subjugated by people of power and never look to save ourselves.Smh
@@coolguy5409: To protest and arrested is not a criminal breach as Rattigan said to the panel and to us looking in from the outside. It is completely nonsense he is telling us,and I was expecting better from him. I am a ex-cop from the JCF and not like today`s cops on the island. I did policing in Grand Cayman as well for one month back then along with nine others from the JCF.
Like Bob Marley says, Every law is illegal 😅
Listening to all you guys... Lonesome, Rattigan and the other two guys... I just cannot understand... Jamaica needs change. If not the UIC then what or who ??
So now that I listened to the whole thing .... Jeffrey ah waste of time... lonesome wants a new horse fi bet pon but even though him lose off the other two horses him want a sure bet. Mr. Nelson is waiting and hoping and Rattigan accepts that both main parties have been useless but still stalling... he wants a revolution but telling people to think about their visa for USA ..... MADDD..
Respect to you Mr. Ratigan you're an an inspiration to us all and you makes us feel like there's hopes for us getting back our country from the political pirates ☠️
Thank you Rattigan for inviting Mr.Joseph Patterson on your programme. That is the man that is going to get Jmaica on the right track and to add to that he is going to investigate PNP/JLP from 1962 to the present time re-their ASSETS ,including lands etc,how they achieved them them.
The UIC has a clean slate. PNP can not investigate JLP and JLP can not investigate PNP.They are both corrupt. LONG LIVE THE UIC. THE PARTY FOR CHANGE.
Mr. Rattigan, FBI credentials or otherwise, you clearly are above you abilities. And your platform is very shambolic also.
Big up yourself Mr Patterson
Long live the UIC. The party for change in Jamaica. Big up youself Mitchy.
@@iamscandinavia8654 🙏🏾
Talk talk talk everybody a talk we need ppl to come together and get rid of these corrupt politicians
Big up my friends for a better Jamaica. Good work guys. Keep it up.
Good work bro
Wayne's question to Mr. Patterson is cringe-worthy because it is entirely devoid of sense-making! His Gish gallop is a circuitous cluster of blabbers that are of the mule- braying ilk!
To guide the comportment of the forum, Wilfred should formulate some "Rules of Order" to accord with the "Five-Ts:" Timbre, Timing, Temperament, Tone, and Topic. With respect to topic, the discourse should be oriented by the "Four-S Rule:" Substance, Specificity, Salience, and Sense-making.
I am very impressed with Joseph Patterson. I think Wayne lonesome, Rattigan and Jefferson questions were off. They were repeated several times and he had answered them repeatedly. And he explained himself over and over sufficiently but because you guys did not get the answer you were looking for you badger Joseph Patterson, and he was quite right that people on the Wayne Lonsome Panel was aiming to discredit him and to paint a picture not of a heroe but of a law breaker knowing full well he saved the Jamaican people from further death and destruction that would occur had he not done what he did. And knowing fully well the court system and the police are inherently corrupt. The guy may have some candidates but they are still in the vetting stage so he does not wish to certify and release them yet I expected more understanding from Wayne Lonesome. And Rattigan keep pressing about the way Patterson protested when he knows his way would be futile. I think you should all apologies to him what he is doing is very hard we should not try to make him look like a criminal. That is what they did to Marcus Garvey do not kill this leader he is there to break the grip of the two parties who have not helped the country. He is even asking for support and you guys are not lending him any hand.
too much ego on the panel, they trying to play gottcha with Patterson arguing over minute points trying to win every argument
Sir I must commend you. You absolutely nailed it. Me Rattigan using his legalistic approach, knowing well that not because something is a law means it’s right.
Mr.Patterson was clever than all of them. Mr.Patterson is no fool. I saw fools on the panel asking the qestions over and over again several times,although Mr.Pattersom had answers them. The whole show was to discredit Mr.Patterson. But they failed.
So true, Mr lonesome needs to tone down his ego. I think he would feel better if The UIC has a candidate in his community he would have a different approach. And I think every $ donated should share through the UIC not just a candidate you approve of. Only educated jamaican is going to understand what the UIC is all about.
I am already a member of the UIC. But after this showing, I am super impressed with my President Joseph Pattrrson. He showed superior intelligence and leadership abilities. He was unshakeable and smart. He did not go for cheap support or quick wins. He appreciated the issues even when the idiots on the forum tried to crucify him in public. Great man...
Don't underestimate the UIC president work with him to make the change , I can see he would like that very much.
Mr Rattigan, are you the host, I am so disappointed. You need to take charge and call off your attacker. This could have been a great conversation
Mr Ratigan, people don't need permit to protest in US or Canada
Marcus Garvey,Sam Sharp,Nanny and other ancestors of ours have been through the same thing as Mr Patteron. People,let’s unite and take back Jamaica and make it a better place.
I totally agree with Mr Patterson
Keep going! 🇯🇲🇯🇲
I lesson to wayne interview mark and I never see any insult or disrespect so why uno a try fe make the man look small uno cannot stop people from vote for the UIC.
Please 🙏 please 🙏 please 🙏 keep the fire 🔥 light keep the heat on please don’t drop the ball we in the Diaspora have your back enough is enough THANK for your courage of putting those politicians on NOTICE THANKS to all of you gentlemen you have given me HOPE
Mr Patterson is a good leader and he don't have to do what he is doing he can go an live outside of Jamaica and go work and take care of his family's .why wayne is saying Mr Patterson can't be a prime minister. Look who was and now who is Jamaica prime Minister ❤💛💚🕶
The mindset of Jeffrey & Wayne is why Jamaica will keep on sinking.
That’s how they got rid of Marcus Garvey
Lonesome me like what you are doing, but you need to not talk so much. Even on your program Lonesome when you have on guest please let them talk more.
Mr Patterson is the guest & has to be fighting to be allowed to speak. My gosh! Why the pugnacious attitude to the gentleman? Why does he have to keep saying "hold on" in order to be able to speak? Mr Rattigan(the host no less) does not appear to be in control of this here show.
This a difficult one about permit..politician and government always broke the law, WHAT IF YOU ASK FOR PERMIT AND IT KEEP REFUSE ..
Noel James: That was a very stupid suggestion by Rattigan and I wonder if Rattigan had forgotten all about black people demonstrating all over the USA in the 60`s to be treated equally and the right to vote. Hundreds of black people lost their lives,children as well shot and killed by racist police officers in peaceful demonstrations, that "He Rattigan" today can say he was a FBI agent. I stand corrected,but blacks in the USA started voting in 1967. And racism is still strong in the USA. I say here LONG LIVE THE UIC.
Rattigan; Those people paid with their lives children as well that you "Rattigan" to day can tell us that you are a retired FBI agent. You should be boosting up Mr.Joseph Patterson instead with his demonstrations remembering that people and children paid with their lives so that you could become a FBI agent. The FBI Chief in those periods was the racist John Edgar HOOVER. God sent Mr.Joseph Patterson to help jamaica and you and your panel can not stop him. Big up Herb from the panel. He is a thinking individual.
Mr Patterson please make sure that anyone seeking positions in the UIC submit a police record along with other inquiries.
Bun dem up good governors we want
All Jamaican over sea who are thinking of helping Jamaica is the grassroots that is who mr Patterson is talking
Loooool trouble deh deh good move guys no funny Shakey move run here family movement equal rights and justice good over evil no bad vybz.keep up the good work to all you here educating The Nation I appreciate you guys now I see where I stand where I coming from and surely know where am going 💯🌍🔑🙌😇🙏
He has a point about the protest. If the heros didn't stand up we would still be slaves. Andrew is a bully and he needs someone to match him, uno need to give ppl a chance after which you can dicide to chastise the man. Tavares is too much, he needs to chill.why are we having a discussion about this issue when gunman and thieves killing and robbing everyday.
Am with U Mr. Rattigan.. THANKS for having our BEST INTRESS
This show could have been run better. Callers just jumping in to ask a question without any kind of organisation. Rattigan must try to organise it better. Mr Nelson is in the middle of a question and a caller is allowed to jump in to ask something else. Just a mix up!
I totally agree with you caller
Jeffrey you have family inside the parliament right now killing Jamaican people with corruption so why you don't talk about them .Mr Patterson is not inside of parliament ❤💛💚🕶
Am so disappointed in lonesom and tavares , why are they trying to rubish what mr patterson is saying, is this an agenda or what?
Trust me, I’m so disgusted at them. I must say that I like both gentlemen, but they both sound like they were pushing some other agenda. However, the true leader Mr Patterson is, was not fazed
To me the forum was like Mr.Patterson was on trial for a crime. I am sorry for my people.
What Rattigan should do as he is the host of the forum,was to have a time set out for callers to call in, rather than having callers calling in when members of the forum are in conversation with Mr.Patterson.
@@iamscandinavia8654 you see it
@@coolguy5409 yu nuh
Mr Patterson said he taking donations from the poorer class of people and from overseas contributions that means you have a choice to give and not to give.
Right Herb you understand
Herb was the best on the pabel.
Herb was the best on the panel.
🖤💚💛
Oh please gentlemen
The Reason Legit 👍🏿😁😁😁😁
Raddigan Mr.Patterson is right. IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY PEOPLE CAN DEMONSTRATE ANY TIME THEY SO WISHES AS THEY DO IN EUROPE.
Mr. Rattigan, you need to select panel members who are intelligent enough to ask a sensible question. Your panel is much too ignorant to figure out a, b, c...
Herb did ask sensible questions tho. And mark you, I’m not into no echo chamber business. I love when Mr Patterson is asked tough and even nonsensical questions, because it makes me see more of his fortitude.
Herb was the best among the lot. He is very intelligent and knew how to execute his qiuestions to Mr.Patterson.
@@coolguy5409 😂
A quick observation, Mr Rattigan needs a producer to take calls and note the questions being asked who will feed them to him so he can introduce them in a uninterrupted fashion . The answers to questions is the reason why we’re listening and when answers are interrupted it creates frustrating listening
Honestly I listened this in its entirety and I am appalled at the ignorance of us Jamaicand and out willingness to be abused and justify the injustice. I honestly think everyone including Mr Rattigan had a biased and supports on if the two colonial parties because the questions asked had nothing to do with Mr Patterson and his position as it regards his vision for Jamaica etc it just seems as if it's an attack like these ppl came prepared to respond rather than listening and responding non biased but this just shows me the dinosaurs in the Jamaican politic field needs to step down and take a back seat and that educated doesn't mean intelligent smh.
Mi love this I bin reaching out to bout you Mr Rattigan an lonesome. For this conversation with the UIC president just to hear his views for Jamaica going forward. I really respect this . Again I'm not affiliated with no parties in Jamaica especially the current 2 . But most Jamaican are open for a change . 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Did the PNP and the JLP members all declare them CV so you people are acting like me Patterson is apart of the government .the man needs all of our support to help make the change .UIC is totally different from the JLP and the PNP because the UIC is trying to make all Jamaican people become a true suvrine an move from under the queen order and crown .PNP and JLP for all these years is still working for the corporation wayne needs to do some more research on ❤💛💚🕶
I wish that the panelists would have joined together and help Mr Patteron with the UIC movement instead of putting him in the same category as the JLP and PNP.
Most of you on this platform lives abroad, mr patterson lives in jamaica he can clearly see what is going on here in jamaica, none of you have to put up with the fear we have to live with every single day, fear is the capital of jamaica now, i am not saying i agree with mr patterson all the way, but try and see from his point and help him. Let us all work together instead of trying to ridicule him. We fear the police, the army , the lawyers, the bankers, you name it.
Bigup
We are living in a corporation not any country .every thing is a contract ❤💛💚🕶
I thought this would have been an interview instead of a debate.
Is he about to run?
I would love to see men like u and Lonesome and Joseph PATTERSON and Damion Crawford and my FUTURE WIFE LISA HANNAH be Jamaica leaders
Why you don't leave the man alone
Wayne's ignorance is on display...
Lol…mi like Wayne still but he surely doesn’t understand nuances. He’s an on the surface kinda guy.
Pm is not compline
Don't underestimate Mr Lonesome eather he can move a mountain when he wants to.
Jeffrey 😂😂
Jimmy say bigup
This was a sham, apart from Herb these guys came to assassinate this man while claiming to want better for Jamaica how confusing
😂 Wayne you really trying to sound knowledgeable, but honestly you lack the history to talk bredda..
Why mr Patterson don't unite together with PNP on try on get out J LP
Because the UIC agenda is not like their’s. The uic is not into corruption like them two.
Mr. Patterson has no sober or cogent macro-, micro-, and mesoeconomic ideas as planks in his political platform. He is seemingly pandering to the anarchistic rampage in Jamaica with his loose and lewd ethos.
Main weaknesses I’ve detected are that he appears to be very combative, arrogant, not very open and accommodating to alternative ideas/suggestions from others, not likable and not a uniter of ppl.
In short, a very weak, inexperienced politician who should stick to accounting in a back room somewhere🔥
I respectfully disagree with you. Mr Patterson exhibit what a true leader is…and I’m basing it on what others have said. The problem with Mr Patterson, is that, sadly, people don’t know what a quality leader is, and so when them meet a strong and confident person, they’ll say he arrogant.
Douglas any person with a visible degree of integrity, a vision for the country, the youth and displays a level of intelligence and humility, has got to be much better than the majority of politicians or political representatives and co 🤡/ 🐱/🐷👔/ 🦀 / 🐊/👮🍼we have today.
@@bevsmith2040 agreed you don't need a degree to have sense, all these scammer politicians only have education to scam us. As long as the current politicians are allowed to continue things will get from bad to worse. I personally don't mesh with Mr Patterson but he cannot be worse than what we have.
FOR REAL😳😳
Give the gentleman a chance...stopped your negativity 😮