We saved cash in the bank (after tax) to supplement our taxable income until Medicare kicks in. So that I can qualify for the ACA. The healthcare situation is so messed up in this country.
One of the problems is it's too damn complicated. An example is the above video. You shouldn't have to do stratagems to get overpriced health care alleviated.
Nice to have some options and it is really very reasonable. Shame we are not yet a developed country though, with free healthcare for all. Thanks Eric.
This is exactly why I converted a large chunk of my 401K to a Roth this year, I am retiring next year at 54 years old and I want to be able to draw of the Roth for "unreported" income to keep the subsidy up.
Excellent! We limited our retirement withdrawals in order to qualify for Obamacare or ACA and that saved us over $25,000 per year in heath insurance premiums. In Alaska the income threshold to qualify was $89,000 for a couple.
The issue I found with “medishare” plans is few Dr’s or Hospitals take them! When I retired, none of the doctors that were under my company healthcare plan with would take medishare nor any Obama care plans.
You did not mention short-term medical plans. These may be a viable option for bridging 2-3 years before Medicare. Also, Health Sharing plans can be very risky as they are not true insurance but are a promise to reimburse IF the medical care expense was deemed as qualified.
If your income is less than 25k per year. medi-cal charges zero. You can even do a large IRA to ROTH conversion since it’s considered a One time event. Medi-cal verifies your income monthly compared to ACA yearly verification
Farm bureau health insurance was by far the best option for me and my family. Also a hybrid of Direct Primary Care & Medi Share was another good alternative.
This falls into the category of every situation is unique. My family was on COBRA on and off with spouse's changing jobs situation. Expensive but at least we couldn't be denied and we got the employer's group rate and the same plan. Then when COBRA ran out (this is pre-ACA) I was able to convert to an individual plan with the same insurance company. When spouse reached Medicare age, I went on to ACA and was shocked at the premium prices and the high deductibles. No way could income be manipulated for subsidy since spouse was still earning income from a full time job. So I stuck with ACA bronze plans for 3 years (at least opened up an HSA for 2 of them when I chose the lowest of the low plans) until I qualified for Medicare.
Where I live, you have to have a low income in order to get a subsidy on a largely useless, super-high deductible ($15,000) bronze plan. They could not have made it worse.
Thank you. I enjoy following you guys. Changing how we need to travel is our plan. We take care of my 85 year old mom snd while she is very mobile and self sufficient. There are times she needs us. So our first year of retirement plannis to take 6 months of travel in 2 month chunks. I am just starting to look at bookings and i find yiu cannot book more than 28 days at a time air bnb. I know you guys dont use that service, do you have another reccomended option?
Very informative. Does your net worth (assuming it's fairly high in mostly retirement savings) affect your monthly premium if the income is below the poverty level?
From what I've watched, assets, like 401Ks, Savings accounts etc, are not considered when computing subsidies for ACA healthcare. Only Income. Income as in wages, interest and capital gains etc. So I'm wondering if I can take higher distributions of my retirement funds while I'm on COBRA, put them in savings, and then live on those savings for that 1 year GAP while I'm on a ACA plan to bridge me to Medicare. So basically no distributions, ie income, that 1 year, making my subsidy super high which covers my ACA premiums at 100%.
Ok. I watched this video several times and still dont understand subsidy slope ans subsidy cliff. What i get is i should not have 54k income for single to get subsidy. Am i right?
So when we retire nxt year at 63.. we will get aca and have no taxable income because we have Roth Ira ask tax free..would we even qualify fur aca or get medicaid?
We saved cash in the bank (after tax) to supplement our taxable income until Medicare kicks in. So that I can qualify for the ACA. The healthcare situation is so messed up in this country.
Hope the bank wasn't SVB.
One of the problems is it's too damn complicated. An example is the above video. You shouldn't have to do stratagems to get overpriced health care alleviated.
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4:45 Re: ACA income - Traditional IRA withdrawals count *BUT* ROTH IRA withdrawals do NOT count. This is a massive key point.
Nice to have some options and it is really very reasonable. Shame we are not yet a developed country though, with free healthcare for all. Thanks Eric.
NOTHING IS FREE!!!! It’s a burden on the taxpayers!!!
This is exactly why I converted a large chunk of my 401K to a Roth this year, I am retiring next year at 54 years old and I want to be able to draw of the Roth for "unreported" income to keep the subsidy up.
remember that any converted roth funds are locked up for 5 years without penalty
But what kind if tax hit di tat incur?
Excellent! We limited our retirement withdrawals in order to qualify for Obamacare or ACA and that saved us over $25,000 per year in heath insurance premiums. In Alaska the income threshold to qualify was $89,000 for a couple.
The issue I found with “medishare” plans is few Dr’s or Hospitals take them! When I retired, none of the doctors that were under my company healthcare plan with would take medishare nor any Obama care plans.
You did not mention short-term medical plans. These may be a viable option for bridging 2-3 years before Medicare. Also, Health Sharing plans can be very risky as they are not true insurance but are a promise to reimburse IF the medical care expense was deemed as qualified.
If your income is less than 25k per year. medi-cal charges zero. You can even do a large IRA to ROTH conversion since it’s considered a One time event. Medi-cal verifies your income monthly compared to ACA yearly verification
Farm bureau health insurance was by far the best option for me and my family. Also a hybrid of Direct Primary Care & Medi Share was another good alternative.
Always worth watching,
Cheers,
Jef
Leave it to the government to complicate things so much.
It is complicated because the Republicans don't want universal healthcare.
They do this on purpose to keep us all confused and shelling out money.
This falls into the category of every situation is unique. My family was on COBRA on and off with spouse's changing jobs situation. Expensive but at least we couldn't be denied and we got the employer's group rate and the same plan. Then when COBRA ran out (this is pre-ACA) I was able to convert to an individual plan with the same insurance company. When spouse reached Medicare age, I went on to ACA and was shocked at the premium prices and the high deductibles. No way could income be manipulated for subsidy since spouse was still earning income from a full time job. So I stuck with ACA bronze plans for 3 years (at least opened up an HSA for 2 of them when I chose the lowest of the low plans) until I qualified for Medicare.
Where I live, you have to have a low income in order to get a subsidy on a largely useless, super-high deductible ($15,000) bronze plan. They could not have made it worse.
Thank you. I enjoy following you guys. Changing how we need to travel is our plan. We take care of my 85 year old mom snd while she is very mobile and self sufficient. There are times she needs us. So our first year of retirement plannis to take 6 months of travel in 2 month chunks. I am just starting to look at bookings and i find yiu cannot book more than 28 days at a time air bnb. I know you guys dont use that service, do you have another reccomended option?
Very informative. Does your net worth (assuming it's fairly high in mostly retirement savings) affect your monthly premium if the income is below the poverty level?
From what I've watched, assets, like 401Ks, Savings accounts etc, are not considered when computing subsidies for ACA healthcare. Only Income. Income as in wages, interest and capital gains etc. So I'm wondering if I can take higher distributions of my retirement funds while I'm on COBRA, put them in savings, and then live on those savings for that 1 year GAP while I'm on a ACA plan to bridge me to Medicare. So basically no distributions, ie income, that 1 year, making my subsidy super high which covers my ACA premiums at 100%.
Do the math on the "metal" plans. Your out of pocket may be less with bronze than your premiums with platinum.
Ah!!! I see!!!
Yeah, that makes sense...
Exactly the last section.. will make me run away from these tax planners.
Ok. I watched this video several times and still dont understand subsidy slope ans subsidy cliff. What i get is i should not have 54k income for single to get subsidy. Am i right?
So when we retire nxt year at 63.. we will get aca and have no taxable income because we have Roth Ira ask tax free..would we even qualify fur aca or get medicaid?
Doesn't ACA have a one year look-back for income?