this video highlights two major problems with policing, you have a good man, not knowing the "law," call for clarification on the "law." We also saw a bad man, an order follower, "just trespass them," he says, "we do it all the time," he says. With policing you get good men that mean well, then, there are bad men that are here for a payday. it's like that box of chocolate, "you never know what you're gonna get." the other highlight... cops are not lawyers, don't know Legalese/Latin, so cannot possibly know "law" statutes and codes are written by lawyers in legalese/Latin which cops can not interpret.🤔
If the second officer responded first, the interaction would have the complete opposite. What a tin can of a human and the first officer “first amendment thing” : tf !
@@mr.duanesharpe ::: It is more likely what Perez said to the sergeant saved the day rather than saying how it would have turned out if he had arrived first. The officer said we do it all the time and then advised Perez to notify the sergeant. Perez told the sgt that Jeff and James were first amendment auditors. That probably rung a bell in the sgt’s head and I believe Perez lead the sgt in the direction of the terminal being public property. If the second officer’s supervisor is the sergeant, the sergeant apparently didn’t provide the same guidance to the second officer while he "did it all the other times".
I commend that officer for not following his colleagues "we do it all the time" advice and actually doing the correct thing. He is standing on his oath to protect the constitution.
jeff ,,, drop that a-hole partner you scraped up . stay by yourself . he just wants to be a pain in the butt . that cop was unsure and didn't like the pigs answer so he went higher up . i give him 10 thumbs up for that . wish they were all like that .
The most disturbing thing to me is: If the cop in the car was the one in charge, you both would have been trespassed because they "do it all the time." He DIDN'T CARE whether it was public or private property. Somebody wanted you to leave and that was enough for him. He doesn't know the law for trespassing, doesn't know that PUBLIC vs PRIVATE is different under the law for trespassing someone... but he knows that KNOWING the law will get in the way of him generating revenue for the city and will inhibit his ability to enforce his will and other people's feelings (which gets in the way of the second duty he has - controlling the public).
The one in the car isnt in charge, He was just a silly cop he called upon at least he reconmended he call to be sure. The Sarg in charge was on the phone and got it right.
The pig in the car doesn't give a sxxt and does it all the time so did the Sarg do anything about that? No because they never do anything to the bad cops that's why they are all bad cops. Since the pigs police themselves it's up to us to hold them accountable the best way we can which doesn't leave us many options.
@@ClarityDetermination **IF** he admits to knowing the law. Cops **LIE** all the time. Lying in depositions and in court is a common occurrence. "Ignorance of the law" is their shield. It's part of a common qualified immunity defense - "I enforced the law **as I believed it was written**" is an admission that they don't know the law **as it is written.**
X 🎯 He must think trespassing someone for sport is well-within the scope of his perceived “authority.” Cops can be such ignorant authoritarians…and taxpayers pay out the nose for their blatant stupidity and civil rights trampling…🤷🏻♂️
You are right he investgated found out they were doing nothing wrong,good officer,I think some of these younger officers are learning more from these audit videos then they learned in the academy.
I wouldn´t call them "officers" or do they have official ranks or training? This bunch of ignorants rather look like employees who were hired to give them a job to lower the jobless statistics only.
@Claus - That's "standard", in my industry. While I don't have 45 years, I do have 25 years. I also have worked bus terminals, here in Riverside County, CA., as a supervisor, having to hold post from some deadbeat that called off, at the last minute. At no point in time was there ANY training as to whether a bus terminal is PUBLIC, or PRIVATE. So, although I have "some" grievances with HOW Jeff conducts business, he's also been invaluable, as well. I've never given that aspect of the job, any thought, or even about taking pictures of governmental buildings, which I have found, through Jeff's insight, and my own follow-up research, that even that, is allowed. And I've advised MANY, in the past, they could not do so, as required by my superiors, and the company's I've worked for, without ever thinking to ask those kinds of questions. But this wasn't arrogance, or a power-trip; it was clear ignorance, or naivety. Had I ever been called out by someone challenging me, like Jeff does, I would have been like Ofc. Perez, and asked someone higher. You need to understand, security is a "bottom-feeder" industry. It generally pays minimum-wage, thus getting the worst, dummest, and laziest of society. I have excelled in every company I've been in, BECAUSE I'm NOT like the rest.
@Steven L::: R U saying that we should pat Officer Perez on the back for having to call to determine if the transportation authority in his patrol area or responsibility is public or private. I expect all officers to know if one of the major transportation hubs in the city/county is public or private.
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 In a way yes. They've set the bar so low that when you have a cop actually use his head and technology to resolve the matter, you're pretty happy about it. Whereas if you listen to his buddy it's trespass, "we do it all the time".
@@stevenl4494 ::: If the second cop do it all the time, then the supervisor must be flip flopping on the advise they provide to the beat/patrol officer.
"We do it all the time." Yeah, deprivation of rights under the color of law does seem to be the standard procedure for cops. Thankfully, the supervisor that was called directed the officers on site to exercise some restraint.
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 Yep. The justice system rewards and encourages the type of corruption you have described. Promotions should be based on much different criteria.
Yeah. That awfulcer with the beard and shades will probably have some of his past work reviewed based on that incriminating statement. He possibly admitted to unlawfully trespassing people from public property.
YES..let's sign this cop up as the nationwide 1A instructor. He just did everything perfect, attitude, deescalation, investigation, just all around great job...
"He just did everything perfecT" ROFL! Especially when he explained twice "this is private property, that´s the only issue, that this is private property".
this is the way it should work...the transportation workers called the cops because they had no idea what was going on, the cops investigated without being a dick, first amendment was respected....a teachable moment for all involved.
Actually, I am glad to see this one cop admitting he wasn't sure about the private vs public property situation and investigating it further, so he could make the right decision. And he was polite and professional. In contrast to the tyrant in the car that just wanted to trespass the auditors. Stupid and shameful behavior.
What I see here is a LEO not knowing if the property was public or private and that is ok but he went the right route and called in to clarify the property status. Excellent job officer. He also knew the rights the citizens have in a public area. You sir, officer I hope gets some stripes so that you can train the newbies. Thank you for your service on the force. That other officer that thinks we do it all the time" whether it's right or wrong is ok needs extra training or find another job. Thank you Jeff for another great video! Cheers from 🇨🇦!
@Jon Samuda::: That other cop gave him some very bad info regarding his past experience of trespassing people from public property but I am not sure if he had NOT suggested Officer Perez notify the sergeant he wouldn't have trespassed them. When the two guards said Jeff and James were on private property Perez didn't attempt to correct them at all. Then he told Jeff/James that they were ON private property and only expressed some doubt when they pushed back with "whoa" at which time he changed his tune. After determining it's public property Perez appeared to find it very difficult to inform the guards that "it's public property". Only at the very end. He tried too hard to please everyone and came out not looking good in my view.
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 Really it seemed more like that Perez might have been focusing too much on the recording aspect but that was after someone tried to physically stop them from recording him and he put them in their place.
We do it all the time... damn that second officer is quick to try to violate rights. But I'm glad the first officer really looked into it and educated the employees of the Public transportation system.
as much as one officer stated, "we do it all the time" you can tell he is clocked out of being a decent human, but the officer we follow on the body camera, is actually caring, listens to both sides first, didnt push on getting them off before double checking their rights. on top of being Cordial the whole time. i feel this is a good video showing the range of what investigations should be done before rights are intruded on, the officer even expressed Jeff/company's rights to the complaining party before he left saying they are within their rights to do what they are doing, so in a way telling them not to harass them any further. as i always say Jeff amazing video's and solid video gathering. keep up standing for the rights of the people. you are the change everyone needs to see.
Cop was getting mixed messages. Employees telling him it's private property, his common sense telling him it's public, his peer telling him yeah/no you can trespass them. Rather than accept any of those as being definitive, he sent it further up the chain so that he can say he did his due diligence. Those in higher positions know what kind of sh*t storm they'd be creating if the cop trespassed them, and set it straight. About my only criticism of this cop is that his attempt to tell the Voltran employees that it was public property was not the most eloquent, and I think it's highly likely they learned nothing from it. They'll run the next person off if they can. This cop seems like he doesn't hang out with the cops who are fully ego-driven. I'm pretty sure that men who categorize themselves as "Real Men" would disparage his behavior. But to my way of thinking if our police force were as easy going, diligent, and friendly as this guy, and yet have the bravery to protect lives that are in danger, then as a nation, we'd be in a much better place.
Hear, hear! Yeah, I agree. Only thing I would have modified with what he did is that he should have said to the security guards, "you can't kick people off the property for simply violating your policy. That's not sufficient reason to trespass anyone. If they break the *law*, however, *then* you can trespass them." Because like you said, I'm not convinced they really learned much from this.
For those two, it should have been a slow, short words explanation and require them to restate their understanding. Those two are essentially unteachable otherwise. How many have they abused in their ignorance? Their last learning moment was decades ago.
@@Enfors Yeah. I think that, being a teacher, I'm more sensitive to how well the learner is learning. In this case, those guys weren't just texting, talking or napping in class. They were absent entirely. Learned nothing. But it's not the cop's job to educate them, what needs to happen is that the Voltran people need to change their policy. They are the ones who have a policy that is unconstitutional. I love how Jeff warns folks that they are about to make a mistake.
Jeff you are the best auditor out there, bar none! Its nice to see cop being cool and calm and checking the facts before just blatantly doing whatever the stupid uneducated employees were asking of him. Kudos to that officer. Policing the way it should be. Second cop probably can't even spell the word COP!
I saw your original video too. This is how it's supposed to be done. The Officer did it in the correct order too. He listened to both sides and then he investigated first instead of detaining first. The officer gets an "A+", employees get an "F". You are still the man Jeff! Thanks for your work...
While the officer did very well overall, let's not for get that he did try ( 10:14) telling Jeff that voltran was private property, but after he saw that jeff wasn't going for it, he changed his story.
First cop when through all the checks until he made sure he knew what was the law. Great job. The cop in the car was like f-um, we trespass them all the time. Bad cop.
@Camera Ray::: From the looks it the supervisors are not sure of what to say when that question is put to them. If the supervisor is approving the actions of the second cops what do you suppose caused him to provide the correct answer to Perez?
These VOTRAN employees will definitely need a re-revisit in the near future. Guarantee they continue to pull this shit on someone who isn't as aware of their rights.
Pretty rare this days for cops to uphold the law, worse part is neither cop on scene knows the law, at least he had sense to check first. Places enacting “rules/laws” that aren’t constitutional or legal then can’t comprehend someone not agreeing to follow them.
thank you Jeff for all your hard work.....security - "you can't do that here.. it's against the policy......" cop -"this is public property but it's private......" sgt. -"it's public property....."
I never thought the day would come that an officer finally makes a phone call or does a couple seconds of research to not violate someones rights. Sad that security team would call the police over this in the first place though hoping to trample on the first amendment.
There are numerous videos proving security guards are not fully trained in all aspects of their jobs. This is a prime example of another one. The fact the cop actually checked whether the area was pubic or private was refreshing. We seldom see this happen.
As we know that US-cops are trained 9 weeks to 6 months only at the police academy we can imagine how those security is trained. "Good morning, here is your fake police badge, and tell the people to get off our property, now go to work".
As you make a valid point and being a security guard for like 40 years were not that trained for sure but speaking from experience the biggest problem is , its not so much what your trained at if any but what the client directs the security company to do or you and thats mostly the problem
@@wzukr That's pretty accurate, actually. It's a bottom-feeder job. I know this, because I've been doing it, for almost 25 years now. 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤪
The fact the cops continue to fight the Supreme Court's rulings and Constitutional rights shows their level of respect for law. *“A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”* - John F. Kennedy *“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.”* - Thomas Sowell *“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.”* -Edward Snowden
Great video and an Awesome Job by Officer Perez for knowing the law and doing the proper investigation into whether it was Public or Private Property. 👍👍👍 for Officer Perez. We need more officers like him Nationwide
Very professional, courteous, and thorough officer. Doesn't go on a power trip, understands that they have rights, makes sure to tell the other officer "they're cool" so he doesn't escalate, verifies through proper channels by actually investigating, and doesn't need their IDs for his "investigation" either. This is the most transparent body cam video I have seen, he didn't mute the body cam to talk to the other officer, as they usually do, or for his convenience.
The fact that the officer went through all the loopholes to find out that the place is public and didn't detained you guys and violate your rights, was excellent. Cudos to the officer.
Agreed, but one first must learn that it is a valid civil right. Schools aren't teaching it. I spent 16 years working at or for state agencies, never was taught that. Now cops... no excuse. All LEO should be taught that... no quarter given there.
ALL people (races, religions, ethnic origin, etc.) have had oppressed and suppressed by their own and others throughout time. Time for you to grow up and look at reality. Or are you too brainwashed to understand?
Dang and officer did the right thing, good for him. Thanks for the share Jeff. Still shocked the stupid people who work there don’t no it’s public property.
That is the best cop I have EVER seen. I was afraid the other one (who seemed rather sketchy) would make him do the wrong thing, but kudos to him for actually doing his thing the right way. SO awesome to see. ♥
The cop that actually handled this, and saw it all the way through was awesome. He kept his cool, he didn't take sides, and he vigilantly sought the facts needed to properly protect and serve. He protected their 1st amendment right instead of immediately siding with the complainants who called in, and he made sure that he was getting it right before taking any action. He even called a superior instead of taking the wrong advice from a fellow officer. Bravo! This is what a law enforcement officer is supposed to be like.
This is simply the very best, most ingenious way to do a 1st Amendment audit, and educate EVERYONE on what our rights actually are. God Bless Homeless Vets, FOR REAL!
Officer Perez actually handled that really well and conducted himself with the proper humility and decency that is to be expected of a legitimate public servant. Kudos to Officer Perez for reaffirming my faith that there are still honest Law Enforcement Officers out there whom actually do Honor Their Oaths.
Decent cop. You can tell he was anxious, but he didn't overcompensate by trying to be more intimidating or arrogant. He was trying to actually do his job, and he kinda puts me at ease.
I think we learned that the Daytona Beach Police trespass people from public property all of the time. A reasonable person might think that sometimes the officer will do this just based on a person in charge of that property asking them to do it and sometimes an officer might not do it if they find that the people were acting within their rights and committing no crime. Let's hope more educating encounters like this will increase the odds of the latter happening when officers respond, even if you aren't a First Amendment auditor.
Thankyou Jeff! Much love and support from Australia. I'm a massive fan, and I'm not going to lie, I get anxious watching your videos, because I'm not sure if you'll have your rights violated or not. But this one was a win ! Can't wait till your next post .
I am not yet convinced that those public employees fully comprehended what the cop was telling them. He might have better luck getting them to understand Maxwell's Equations.
Why is no one giving credit where it is due? We are all so quick to hate on police, we should recognize when we see something good. This was great police work. Thank you officer Perez for a job very well done.
I've never minded when they don't know everything and have to defer to an legal source or supervisor, what I've always hated to see is them deciding they're the lawmakers and enforcing what they don't even know.
@@OregonSingles::: There are critical job tasks and skills every cop is suppose to know in order to effectively perform their mission. That cop should’ve already known if the bus terminal was public or private. Officer Perez failed that task so he deserve no pat on the back for learning in the middle of an assignment. Cops don’t need to know EVERYTHING but there are somethings they must know.
Good thing the "we do it all the yime" cop wasn't leading this call. The other officer who handle the call did a great job. He wasn't sure if the place was public or private. Asked the idiot "Just trespass them. We do it all the time cop" for his opinion. Obviously felt that answer was bs because he called a supervisor who advised him it was public and from there respected everyones rights. That's how it should be.
They think it's private property because it's what they're told to think because they wish to keep their job. Some folks feel safe mired in ignorance. Learning new things and thinking outside the box, can be painful.
First class officer, polite and dignified, most of all he wasn't sure and sought confirmation from a supervisor without any raised voice ir demands. A PROPER COMMINITY OFFICER. NEED MORE LIKE HIM.
He explained Jeff and James twice that "this is private property, that´s the only issue" BEFORE he asked the 2nd cop or called to his sergeant. But I understand, the bar is very low in the USA nowadays and many people not able to follow simple conversation.
I didn't usually go out on a limb for cops, but this guy did an amazing job. He checked with his immediate supervisor who dropped the "we do it all the time" bomb, but still checked on with their supervisor because the real question was"is this legal". Big props for doing the right thing.
Older we are, greater chance not knowing our Rights. 6 out of 10 never attended high school. Busy working , paying taxes. Paying rent to the landlord. Privileged vs poverty. Advanced education vs basic education. Peace ✌️. Thank you again.
BodyCam video starts at 6:35 mark.
Link to original video here…ua-cam.com/video/65_QFTBATmI/v-deo.html
You would think the black workers there would "get it"
Wonderful LEOs
this video highlights two major problems with policing, you have a good man, not knowing the "law," call for clarification on the "law."
We also saw a bad man, an order follower, "just trespass them," he says, "we do it all the time," he says.
With policing you get good men that mean well, then, there are bad men that are here for a payday.
it's like that box of chocolate,
"you never know what you're gonna get."
the other highlight... cops are not lawyers, don't know Legalese/Latin, so cannot possibly know "law"
statutes and codes are written by lawyers in legalese/Latin which cops can not interpret.🤔
That went well 🙃👍
@@judycorbridge6470 An old black fool is the same as an old white fool. They both are fools.
"We do it all the time"...
That's a huge part of the problem of policing today. It's not, "It's the law"...but, "that's just what we've always done".
As if customs and habits override policy and law...
Props to the first officer for ignoring that piece of advice and checking, anyway.
If the second officer responded first, the interaction would have the complete opposite. What a tin can of a human and the first officer “first amendment thing” : tf !
@@mr.duanesharpe ::: It is more likely what Perez said to the sergeant saved the day rather than saying how it would have turned out if he had arrived first.
The officer said we do it all the time and then advised Perez to notify the sergeant.
Perez told the sgt that Jeff and James were first amendment auditors. That probably rung a bell in the sgt’s head and I believe Perez lead the sgt in the direction of the terminal being public property.
If the second officer’s supervisor is the sergeant, the sergeant apparently didn’t provide the same guidance to the second officer while he "did it all the other times".
I don't know if it's legal, but we do it all the time. 😮😮 Sgt was on top of his game, officer interaction was truly professional. 💪💪
I commend that officer for not following his colleagues "we do it all the time" advice and actually doing the correct thing. He is standing on his oath to protect the constitution.
A police officer who actually takes the time to correctly figure out and UNDERSTAND what the truth of the matter is...
The never ending desperation for attention????
But a very dumb one....he should already know.
jeff ,,, drop that a-hole partner you scraped up . stay by yourself . he just wants to be a pain in the butt . that cop was unsure and didn't like the pigs answer so he went higher up . i give him 10 thumbs up for that . wish they were all like that .
Good cop! If that’s a thing
Sadly this might only be because they where recording and know auditors recordings can't be 'lost'
The most disturbing thing to me is: If the cop in the car was the one in charge, you both would have been trespassed because they "do it all the time." He DIDN'T CARE whether it was public or private property. Somebody wanted you to leave and that was enough for him. He doesn't know the law for trespassing, doesn't know that PUBLIC vs PRIVATE is different under the law for trespassing someone... but he knows that KNOWING the law will get in the way of him generating revenue for the city and will inhibit his ability to enforce his will and other people's feelings (which gets in the way of the second duty he has - controlling the public).
The one in the car isnt in charge, He was just a silly cop he called upon at least he reconmended he call to be sure. The Sarg in charge was on the phone and got it right.
The pig in the car doesn't give a sxxt and does it all the time so did the Sarg do anything about that? No because they never do anything to the bad cops that's why they are all bad cops. Since the pigs police themselves it's up to us to hold them accountable the best way we can which doesn't leave us many options.
FEOs are going to enforce the feelings of others. Law be damned, that's all an FEO is capable of doing following the whims of someone else.
Him knowing the law can cost him his qualified immunity.
@@ClarityDetermination **IF** he admits to knowing the law. Cops **LIE** all the time. Lying in depositions and in court is a common occurrence.
"Ignorance of the law" is their shield. It's part of a common qualified immunity defense - "I enforced the law **as I believed it was written**" is an admission that they don't know the law **as it is written.**
I like how the one cop openly admits to criminal activity by trespassing people from public property all the time. He needs to be investigated.
bingo. i'd fire his ass or demote him at least, maybe some retraining or something if he's willing to learn and stop being a tyrant.
X 🎯 He must think trespassing someone for sport is well-within the scope of his perceived “authority.” Cops can be such ignorant authoritarians…and taxpayers pay out the nose for their blatant stupidity and civil rights trampling…🤷🏻♂️
That should be a sufficient reason to at least dismiss him from the service
Never happen.
I live very close to this location.
The whole department from the Chief (cocksucker) down to the lowest file clerk needs to be prosecuted.
Perez did great. Even with his ignorance, he spent time to figure out the right course of action. Good on him.
Keep it up Jeff!
Great work by the initial officer. Even when the other officer told him to trespass them, he called the sgt to be sure.
You are right he investgated found out they were doing nothing wrong,good officer,I think some of these younger officers are learning more from these audit videos then they learned in the academy.
A security officer who doesn't know if his little corner of the world is private or public property.....GEEEES
Come on, it's the only sense of authority he has.
I wouldn´t call them "officers" or do they have official ranks or training? This bunch of ignorants rather look like employees who were hired to give them a job to lower the jobless statistics only.
Yea, WTF?
@Claus - That's "standard", in my industry.
While I don't have 45 years, I do have 25 years. I also have worked bus terminals, here in Riverside County, CA., as a supervisor, having to hold post from some deadbeat that called off, at the last minute. At no point in time was there ANY training as to whether a bus terminal is PUBLIC, or PRIVATE. So, although I have "some" grievances with HOW Jeff conducts business, he's also been invaluable, as well. I've never given that aspect of the job, any thought, or even about taking pictures of governmental buildings, which I have found, through Jeff's insight, and my own follow-up research, that even that, is allowed. And I've advised MANY, in the past, they could not do so, as required by my superiors, and the company's I've worked for, without ever thinking to ask those kinds of questions. But this wasn't arrogance, or a power-trip; it was clear ignorance, or naivety. Had I ever been called out by someone challenging me, like Jeff does, I would have been like Ofc. Perez, and asked someone higher.
You need to understand, security is a "bottom-feeder" industry. It generally pays minimum-wage, thus getting the worst, dummest, and laziest of society. I have excelled in every company I've been in, BECAUSE I'm NOT like the rest.
Love when you get the body cam footage, Jeff! Thanks for all you do.
A 10 sec phone call clears it right up. Kudos to this officer in recognizing it was a private/public issue, which he cleared up. Excellent job.
@Steven L::: R U saying that we should pat Officer Perez on the back for having to call to determine if the transportation authority in his patrol area or responsibility is public or private.
I expect all officers to know if one of the major transportation hubs in the city/county is public or private.
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 In a way yes. They've set the bar so low that when you have a cop actually use his head and technology to resolve the matter, you're pretty happy about it. Whereas if you listen to his buddy it's trespass, "we do it all the time".
@@stevenl4494 ::: If the second cop do it all the time, then the supervisor must be flip flopping on the advise they provide to the beat/patrol officer.
his buddy would have just trespassed them
I don't know how many times I have heard a GED level cop when asked if something is public say "It is and it isn't" THAT IS NOT A FUCKING THING.
Lol, it's either public or it's private, it can't be both quite literally.
She is kind of pregnant
@@dcast777 unless it's one of those situations where private property has public utilities on it as part of an easement
Good job officer! No ego involved at all. Actually protecting people’s rights.
2nd cop was a total prick
Shout out to Ofc Perez for doing the job as it ALWAYS should be done, DESPITE having an ignorant co-worker!
"We do it all the time." Yeah, deprivation of rights under the color of law does seem to be the standard procedure for cops. Thankfully, the supervisor that was called directed the officers on site to exercise some restraint.
13:09 The cops are checking with Rights Crispy?
@@MtgCoach That's hilarious. All cops should definitely have Rights Crispy on speed dial.
@Nunaya Bonus::: >>>”We do it all the time”
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 Yep. The justice system rewards and encourages the type of corruption you have described. Promotions should be based on much different criteria.
Yeah. That awfulcer with the beard and shades will probably have some of his past work reviewed based on that incriminating statement. He possibly admitted to unlawfully trespassing people from public property.
THE COP DID A GOOD JOB OF FINDING OUT BEFORE HE DID THE WRONG THING 👍👍
But before he explained them twice that "this is private property, that´s the only issue"
But I understand, the bar is very low in the USA nowadays.
Great job officer. You should be promoted. Great job again Jeff.
Promoted for first saying it was private property and then calling in and finding out it wasn't? Promoted??? 🤣🤣🤣
@Robert Bascelli::: He kept his cool but he is not ready for prime time.
YES..let's sign this cop up as the nationwide 1A instructor. He just did everything perfect, attitude, deescalation, investigation, just all around great job...
"He just did everything perfecT"
ROFL! Especially when he explained twice "this is private property, that´s the only issue, that this is private property".
this is the way it should work...the transportation workers called the cops because they had no idea what was going on, the cops investigated without being a dick, first amendment was respected....a teachable moment for all involved.
Actually, I am glad to see this one cop admitting he wasn't sure about the private vs public property situation and investigating it further, so he could make the right decision. And he was polite and professional.
In contrast to the tyrant in the car that just wanted to trespass the auditors. Stupid and shameful behavior.
Thank you Jeff. Not all heros wear capes.
Only fake heroes wear capes (or badges).
@@the-tribe ill never look at superman the same again
Not all middle aged men go around desperately begging for attention and relevance
@@brianbickle7395 yet here you are.
No heroes carry guns
What I see here is a LEO not knowing if the property was public or private and that is ok but he went the right route and called in to clarify the property status. Excellent job officer. He also knew the rights the citizens have in a public area. You sir, officer I hope gets some stripes so that you can train the newbies. Thank you for your service on the force. That other officer that thinks we do it all the time" whether it's right or wrong is ok needs extra training or find another job.
Thank you Jeff for another great video! Cheers from 🇨🇦!
@Jon Samuda::: That other cop gave him some very bad info regarding his past experience of trespassing people from public property but I am not sure if he had NOT suggested Officer Perez notify the sergeant he wouldn't have trespassed them.
When the two guards said Jeff and James were on private property Perez didn't attempt to correct them at all. Then he told Jeff/James that they were ON private property and only expressed some doubt when they pushed back with "whoa" at which time he changed his tune.
After determining it's public property Perez appeared to find it very difficult to inform the guards that "it's public property". Only at the very end.
He tried too hard to please everyone and came out not looking good in my view.
agree
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 Really it seemed more like that Perez might have been focusing too much on the recording aspect but that was after someone tried to physically stop them from recording him and he put them in their place.
@@taco8951 ::: Yeah he did get sidetracked with the videoing stuff.
Ur welcome lol
We do it all the time... damn that second officer is quick to try to violate rights. But I'm glad the first officer really looked into it and educated the employees of the Public transportation system.
as much as one officer stated, "we do it all the time" you can tell he is clocked out of being a decent human, but the officer we follow on the body camera, is actually caring, listens to both sides first, didnt push on getting them off before double checking their rights. on top of being Cordial the whole time. i feel this is a good video showing the range of what investigations should be done before rights are intruded on, the officer even expressed Jeff/company's rights to the complaining party before he left saying they are within their rights to do what they are doing, so in a way telling them not to harass them any further.
as i always say Jeff amazing video's and solid video gathering. keep up standing for the rights of the people. you are the change everyone needs to see.
Cop was getting mixed messages. Employees telling him it's private property, his common sense telling him it's public, his peer telling him yeah/no you can trespass them. Rather than accept any of those as being definitive, he sent it further up the chain so that he can say he did his due diligence. Those in higher positions know what kind of sh*t storm they'd be creating if the cop trespassed them, and set it straight.
About my only criticism of this cop is that his attempt to tell the Voltran employees that it was public property was not the most eloquent, and I think it's highly likely they learned nothing from it. They'll run the next person off if they can.
This cop seems like he doesn't hang out with the cops who are fully ego-driven. I'm pretty sure that men who categorize themselves as "Real Men" would disparage his behavior. But to my way of thinking if our police force were as easy going, diligent, and friendly as this guy, and yet have the bravery to protect lives that are in danger, then as a nation, we'd be in a much better place.
Exactly
🎯 +1
Hear, hear!
Yeah, I agree. Only thing I would have modified with what he did is that he should have said to the security guards, "you can't kick people off the property for simply violating your policy. That's not sufficient reason to trespass anyone. If they break the *law*, however, *then* you can trespass them." Because like you said, I'm not convinced they really learned much from this.
For those two, it should have been a slow, short words explanation and require them to restate their understanding. Those two are essentially unteachable otherwise. How many have they abused in their ignorance? Their last learning moment was decades ago.
@@Enfors Yeah. I think that, being a teacher, I'm more sensitive to how well the learner is learning. In this case, those guys weren't just texting, talking or napping in class. They were absent entirely. Learned nothing.
But it's not the cop's job to educate them, what needs to happen is that the Voltran people need to change their policy. They are the ones who have a policy that is unconstitutional.
I love how Jeff warns folks that they are about to make a mistake.
You are a rare credit to your country among seemingly a majority of backwards goons and utter lunatics. God bless the homeless! Peace from the UK
Also I think it's important to highlight this officer did a good job and acted properly which is also seemingly rare
Jeff you are the best auditor out there, bar none! Its nice to see cop being cool and calm and checking the facts before just blatantly doing whatever the stupid uneducated employees were asking of him. Kudos to that officer. Policing the way it should be. Second cop probably can't even spell the word COP!
Jeff is the OG!
That second cop will do anything for a paycheck and has no idea what the law is. He thinks he is hired muscle.
The second cop was too lazy to get out of the air conditioned car.
Amen there are still good cops out there doing their duty daily!
I saw your original video too. This is how it's supposed to be done. The Officer did it in the correct order too. He listened to both sides and then he investigated first instead of detaining first. The officer gets an "A+", employees get an "F". You are still the man Jeff! Thanks for your work...
I saw the original the day it came out too. Agree with the assessment and grades! 👍👍
I was going to say the exact same thing .
A serious A+ for sure.
While the officer did very well overall, let's not for get that he did try ( 10:14) telling Jeff that voltran was private property, but after he saw that jeff wasn't going for it, he changed his story.
What letter get the pig that wanted to trespass them.
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First cop when through all the checks until he made sure he knew what was the law. Great job. The cop in the car was like f-um, we trespass them all the time. Bad cop.
He is definitely a bad apple.
@Camera Ray::: From the looks it the supervisors are not sure of what to say when that question is put to them.
If the supervisor is approving the actions of the second cops what do you suppose caused him to provide the correct answer to Perez?
These VOTRAN employees will definitely need a re-revisit in the near future. Guarantee they continue to pull this shit on someone who isn't as aware of their rights.
that 2nd cop would need some constitution re-learning!
Good idea, send James Freeman in or The Armed Fisherman (he´s from FL)!
Pretty rare this days for cops to uphold the law, worse part is neither cop on scene knows the law, at least he had sense to check first. Places enacting “rules/laws” that aren’t constitutional or legal then can’t comprehend someone not agreeing to follow them.
Thank God for a cop who understands the constitution and actually investigates to find out what's happening before pulling out the cuffs.
thank you Jeff for all your hard work.....security - "you can't do that here.. it's against the policy......" cop -"this is public property but it's private......" sgt. -"it's public property....."
I never thought the day would come that an officer finally makes a phone call or does a couple seconds of research to not violate someones rights. Sad that security team would call the police over this in the first place though hoping to trample on the first amendment.
Tyranny left unchecked evolves into chaos. Thank you for doing your best to keep them in check.
America loves you bro..✌️🇺🇸
There are numerous videos proving security guards are not fully trained in all aspects of their jobs. This is a prime example of another one. The fact the cop actually checked whether the area was pubic or private was refreshing. We seldom see this happen.
As we know that US-cops are trained 9 weeks to 6 months only at the police academy we can imagine how those security is trained. "Good morning, here is your fake police badge, and tell the people to get off our property, now go to work".
As you make a valid point and being a security guard for like 40 years were not that trained for sure but speaking from experience the biggest problem is , its not so much what your trained at if any but what the client directs the security company to do or you and thats mostly the problem
@@wzukr That's pretty accurate, actually.
It's a bottom-feeder job.
I know this, because I've been doing it, for almost 25 years now. 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤪
I give that last Officer an "A".
Well done Officer . 👏
The fact the cops continue to fight the Supreme Court's rulings and Constitutional rights shows their level of respect for law.
*“A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”* - John F. Kennedy
*“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.”* - Thomas Sowell
*“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.”* -Edward Snowden
Great video and an Awesome Job by Officer Perez for knowing the law and doing the proper investigation into whether it was Public or Private Property. 👍👍👍 for Officer Perez. We need more officers like him Nationwide
Very professional, courteous, and thorough officer. Doesn't go on a power trip, understands that they have rights, makes sure to tell the other officer "they're cool" so he doesn't escalate, verifies through proper channels by actually investigating, and doesn't need their IDs for his "investigation" either. This is the most transparent body cam video I have seen, he didn't mute the body cam to talk to the other officer, as they usually do, or for his convenience.
The fact that the officer went through all the loopholes to find out that the place is public and didn't detained you guys and violate your rights, was excellent. Cudos to the officer.
Im going to give the responding officer an A+. He didnt demand ID and he didnt escalate.
The police officer did the right thing! He was thorough and followed up with the original complainant. Outstanding.
This police officer was very professional and did the correct action. Good Guy!
Great to see what the cop was saying and who he talked too. Great job Jeff!
"They do it all the time..."
That's why Jeff is here.
For a people whose civil rights have been violated all through history, we should understand not to violate other people civil rights!!
Agreed, but one first must learn that it is a valid civil right. Schools aren't teaching it. I spent 16 years working at or for state agencies, never was taught that.
Now cops... no excuse. All LEO should be taught that... no quarter given there.
ALL people (races, religions, ethnic origin, etc.) have had oppressed and suppressed by their own and others throughout time. Time for you to grow up and look at reality. Or are you too brainwashed to understand?
@@coolraul07 So, you are/were part of the problem and zero part of the solution?
as a disalbed vet i have one thing to say jeff is damn good for you
Dang and officer did the right thing, good for him. Thanks for the share Jeff. Still shocked the stupid people who work there don’t no it’s public property.
Thanks HYO, at least this officer didn't mute or shut off his BWC.
Great content IMO 💯
That is the best cop I have EVER seen. I was afraid the other one (who seemed rather sketchy) would make him do the wrong thing, but kudos to him for actually doing his thing the right way. SO awesome to see. ♥
The cop that actually handled this, and saw it all the way through was awesome. He kept his cool, he didn't take sides, and he vigilantly sought the facts needed to properly protect and serve. He protected their 1st amendment right instead of immediately siding with the complainants who called in, and he made sure that he was getting it right before taking any action. He even called a superior instead of taking the wrong advice from a fellow officer. Bravo! This is what a law enforcement officer is supposed to be like.
This is simply the very best, most ingenious way to do a 1st Amendment audit, and educate EVERYONE on what our rights actually are. God Bless Homeless Vets, FOR REAL!
We need more officers like this, he was professional, patient, and solution oriented.
Officer Perez actually handled that really well and conducted himself with the proper humility and decency that is to be expected of a legitimate public servant. Kudos to Officer Perez for reaffirming my faith that there are still honest Law Enforcement Officers out there whom actually do Honor Their Oaths.
Decent cop. You can tell he was anxious, but he didn't overcompensate by trying to be more intimidating or arrogant. He was trying to actually do his job, and he kinda puts me at ease.
I think we learned that the Daytona Beach Police trespass people from public property all of the time. A reasonable person might think that sometimes the officer will do this just based on a person in charge of that property asking them to do it and sometimes an officer might not do it if they find that the people were acting within their rights and committing no crime. Let's hope more educating encounters like this will increase the odds of the latter happening when officers respond, even if you aren't a First Amendment auditor.
It is absolutely refreshing to see that an officer would literally take the time to research whether it's private or public
Thankyou Jeff! Much love and support from Australia. I'm a massive fan, and I'm not going to lie, I get anxious watching your videos, because I'm not sure if you'll have your rights violated or not. But this one was a win ! Can't wait till your next post .
Props to this officer, he was professional, courteous, and diffused the situation, a real example of how they should behave!
Jeff. Make a blank version of your sign and see if they react the same way. Those guys are petty. #GBTHV
That was the most reasonable cop I've ever seen!!!! He had a reasonable, civil grown up conversation.... THEY DO EXIST!!!
A companies policy effects only the workers of that company. Not the general public
An honest cop, treating people fairly and doing a proper investigation. That was awesome!
I am not yet convinced that those public employees fully comprehended what the cop was telling them. He might have better luck getting them to understand Maxwell's Equations.
Why is no one giving credit where it is due? We are all so quick to hate on police, we should recognize when we see something good. This was great police work. Thank you officer Perez for a job very well done.
WOW A REASONABLE POLICE OFFICER. Rarer than a Unicorn.
Its good to see police investigating and even conferring with superiors before attempting to resolve an issue. That is a good practice.
I love when cops have to make phone calls to do their jobs ....Thanks Jeff !
@Nick Nitro::: Even high ranking officer make those phone calls on very simple issues.
I've never minded when they don't know everything and have to defer to an legal source or supervisor, what I've always hated to see is them deciding they're the lawmakers and enforcing what they don't even know.
@@Hear-MeoutTwo2 Only cops are allowed to be at their jobs, (not know )try that out in the real world...
@@OregonSingles::: There are critical job tasks and skills every cop is suppose to know in order to effectively perform their mission. That cop should’ve already known if the bus terminal was public or private.
Officer Perez failed that task so he deserve no pat on the back for learning in the middle of an assignment.
Cops don’t need to know EVERYTHING but there are somethings they must know.
The addition of the can in a paper bag is priceless 👍👍
Well, you straightened them up, Jeff. Good job as always.
Jeff and James are two of the best! Thanks for what you two do for our freedoms.
Good thing the "we do it all the yime" cop wasn't leading this call. The other officer who handle the call did a great job. He wasn't sure if the place was public or private. Asked the idiot "Just trespass them. We do it all the time cop" for his opinion. Obviously felt that answer was bs because he called a supervisor who advised him it was public and from there respected everyones rights. That's how it should be.
Love the body cam follow up videos!
They think it's private property because it's what they're told to think because they wish to keep their job. Some folks feel safe mired in ignorance. Learning new things and thinking outside the box, can be painful.
Oh man I love u guys!! It’s so simple but brilliant, boss shit right here, excellent work
Finally, a cop who actually did his job correctly.🦄
Unicorn in the wild
Thank you for all your excellent work, Jeff.
Love you Jeff! Ty for advocating for us here in Florida. I'm in Jacksonville and support you 100%!
Florida starts south of Tampa.....you're in Georgia, lol
@@jeremyward81 true true i say that all the time!!! Lolol
When you retire, your sign belongs in a Civil Rights Museum.
i don't think either of them can read, Jeff wasn't soliciting anything.
First class officer, polite and dignified, most of all he wasn't sure and sought confirmation from a supervisor without any raised voice ir demands.
A PROPER COMMINITY OFFICER. NEED MORE LIKE HIM.
He explained Jeff and James twice that "this is private property, that´s the only issue" BEFORE he asked the 2nd cop or called to his sergeant.
But I understand, the bar is very low in the USA nowadays and many people not able to follow simple conversation.
A cop that can actually do some basic police work, get that man a commendation and promotions.
I didn't usually go out on a limb for cops, but this guy did an amazing job. He checked with his immediate supervisor who dropped the "we do it all the time" bomb, but still checked on with their supervisor because the real question was"is this legal".
Big props for doing the right thing.
Jeff, you are doing a good work! Thank God some officers and Sergeants are getting the constitutional rights of Americans correct!
At least this time you got a good cop who was diligent. He was cautious of your rights and THAT was the proper call. Give that cop an extra donut!
what would these law enforcers do without a supervisor that actually knows something ? Violate rights !
Entertaining and informative all in one video. Thanks Jeff and Chris.
thanks Jeff...
PINAC...For the Win! Great work and follow through.
Love your follow ups ❤️
That was awesome! Thank you officer! 🇺🇲😎📸🤙📷✌️! Mr Grey! 🙏
I love how Jeff is just so innocuous and smooth,,,oh, and hard of hearing makes it all very record-able as well.
Quite frankly I'm amazed,the police officer did the right thing,he didn't let his ego get in the way,he acted professionally,bravo to this officer.
Two of my favorite guys! You rock!
Bro i love you and all the auditors! God Bless YOU! People need to stand up, im so with you...new sub here bro!
Older we are, greater chance not knowing our Rights. 6 out of 10 never attended high school. Busy working , paying taxes. Paying rent to the landlord. Privileged vs poverty. Advanced education vs basic education. Peace ✌️. Thank you again.
WOW!!! A good cop who took the time to find out if it was public or private property! And then he did the right thing!! Amazing...