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Dust protection with ZIP POLES!!!!
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Keep the dust out of your home quickly with the zip pole system!!
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After watching all of your videos (some more than once), I finally got around to my first try at mudding some of my walls and ceiling last weekend. And guess what? Minimal boogers, near perfect lift offs, and you better believe I feathered those edges! Thank you!
This man helped me gut all the drywall out of my home and redo it all caulk paint, the whole shebang. I'm an extremely picky and particular person and I'm pretty satisfied with the results. He's the frickin man.
I use the, "ZipWall 12' 4-Pack Spring-Loaded Poles for Dust Barriers". They are alot lighter than the ones your are using and also they have a cap at the top to clamp the plastic down so you do not even need a ladder. Just attach the plastic extend and your done.
Charles McADORY zipwall for sure. These poles he’s using are wasting so much time
I was going to say the exact same thing. The zip walls are also spring loaded so you don’t need to crank on the thing to get proper tension.
yes, the twist-lock type. Super easy to use.
I have the same. I think they are easier to use, at least based on Ben's experience 😉
Only reason I clicked on video was to suggest the zip wall. Absolutely love their product and hope the guy who invented them is living the good life. Those other ones are garbage and can't even compare to zip wall.
THAT is exactly what I use. I also put a white anti-skit foam (use in kitchen drawers) on top of pole to avoid marking the ceiling.
I also use one of these pole, regularely, to hang my laser whenever I install kitchen cabinet or anything else that needs leveling.
Great courageous video :)
Claude WS good idea for laser. Thank you.
Like the foam idea, thanks. For anyone buying something like these for lasers, consider whether or not magnets will stick to them. Obviously, steel poles would be a better choice for lasers than aluminum or fiberglass.
If you put a layer of painters tape over the feet they won't leave any marks on the ceiling
That's exactly what I use. I also use a sticky matt that I put on the entrance. So every time I step out I step on the sticky matt and takes most of the dust of your shoes. Keep up the good work. I've also learn a lot from you.
You may staple plastic to pair of 2x4 as curtain rod and use those spring supports to push 2x4 curtain to ceiling. This gives two advantages, plastic won’t sag, and you can apply massive pressure without risk of cracking ceiling drywall.
There is a learning curve with these for sure. I had the chance to get to know how to use them at my previous employer. I am on my own now and have 6 of them. Bought a couple of them at a time when I needed them. There great for putting up plastic in a door frame as well. There are easier to buy up here in Canada than the fast cap ones.
My two year old baby boy loves you. I like you. Your drywall videos are dope af.
Love your videos,they’ve helped alot. You should mention these pole are designed to hold up something. I use them to install ceiling board and cabinets. I also use them for dust barrier. I staple 4mil poly and then pipe insulation3/4” or bigger to 1x2 and then attach the zip pole through pre drilled holes on it’s pad .you can use any length of 1x2. It can be used on any surface without damage and can be tightened quite alot. I sometimes add a zippered door.
Another great video. Thanks Ben! ❤️
I bought $15 poles from Harbor Freight. Almost the same thing, but way cheaper.
nice video, I have 12 of them so i always have enough to ensure a tight seal
Perfect that you showed how it can go wrong!
Thank you for this. I've just purchased a Zipwall pack for a kitchen cabinet spray paint job. I'll be using an HVLP spray system but as we know nothing is dust or mist free. If there is a chance of escape dust/spray will find it. I'm sure even with the care you took you likely found trace amounts of dust outside of the barrier.
The lower cabinets will be sprayed in place. Why? 1. They are 30 years old and the island's particle board base crumbled some years back when moved for hardwood flooring I installed. 2. Speed. 3. The HVLP puts more paint on the surface and less in the air so I'm hoping the zipwall will contain the rest. 4. It's my house. I break it I've already bought it.
Also thanks for including in the video the pole failure. It drove home what will happen if the system is not well installed. Many would have edited that out due to pride. Mistakes happen and consequences can be grave as you pointed out. What if a pole struck the family's Steinway instead of hallway? Or fell on a curious child? Excellent decision leaving that part in your video. I've watched several of your videos. This one has the best safety tip.
I bought paint extension poles and plastic drywall swivel pads. i then got some PVC pipe and pipe caps, springs that fit the pipe ID, and cut the pipe to~12" pieces. The bails on the sand pad click over the film, I extend the poles so that they are a couple of inches longer than the ceiling height when the pole is inserted into the PVC. To set up just compress the spring under the painting pole. Each pole assembly I can get for as little as 18 dollars.
Dexter would be impressed!
Troubles, troubles, everywhere troubles! LOL. I feel your pain... been there before! :D
love my zipwall polls, once you get used to them you will never use blue tape again
I used black ones about 5 years ago with my Dad. We got them to work but those look alot more heavy duty
Haven’t had much luck with the task poles, bought them when they first came out and they didn’t make it past the second job. Try the fast cap style ones from princess auto, they go on sale for like $17 and the caulking gun style tightener works really well.
I bought some "load supports" from harbor freight that are supposed to be used in a trailer to secure loads. They work for this purpose and only cost about $15 with coupon
We bought these too and they worked great!
It might help if you make use of plywood pads with clean neoprene surface, maybe 6" x 6" or so.
It would spread out the pressure on the ceiling, a larger area would provide better stability and the plastic might only need to be under a portion of the 6x6 pad so that pad is more stable when against the ceiling not the plastic.
Just bought two of these and cost me $70 a piece. I hope it helps me step up my game. Taping to the ceiling isnt great - painters tape tends to fall off and any other type can potentially tear paint off. My thought is eventually get up to 6 of these to be able to create a dome but didnt feel like dropping $500 on poles to hold up plastic cause that hurts my soul 😂
I always wondered what those were for. Yup, another tool I want but don't need, ha ha.
There are clips the hold poly to the side of the poles for task. Though I've had the same problem that the rubber pads marks up the ceiling. I'd probably put a piece of cardboard between it and the ceiling next time. They are quite good for pushing things against each other - if you need to glue baseboard or put some silicon on a shower panel that needs to be held while the silicon cures. I also like that you can extend then with 2x4 and screws where they are short.
I just put painters tape on the black boots. No issue with marring the ceilings.
This was very helpful. I think I'm going to try it. However, what do you think if I used a 6 mil plastic? Thicker may hold up better right? By the way, another thank you because I couldn't figure out the name of these poles for like 2 days LOL. I'm just so tired of cleaning the dust. Its adds so much to the job. Again, thank you!
I made the mistake of using trailer/pickup bed stretchers and because they're notched instead of threaded... I over tightened them and left indentations in the ceiling having to repair 4 small dings after the one big one
I've cut plastic thousands of times and have never thought to do it like that. Blew my mind hahah I'm gonna try it out tomorrow
Here's a question. How would you recess a return air grill?
Can we see a video of dust protection and the clean up. That’s always my biggest problem
I don't remember the name of that yellow pole brand but I tried it too with the same results. Turns out the problem is not the pressure so much as the sheeting being in contact with a finished surface. its slippery.I went with the Zipwall system which has a way to lock and sandwich the sheeting in between a cleat that has a rubberized pad that makes contact with the surface. Far better design imho.
And if those Task brand yellow metal poles fall, lots of damage. Zip poles are plastic and light aluminum. They wouldn't cause much if any damage if one fell onto a finished floor or piece of expensive furnature. Zip Pole brand are well worth the investment.
Yea there are better poles, ones where there is a pad against sealing
Third hands by Fastcap work really well too. They hold the plastic with a washer and magnet. They use a squeeze grip to extend.
Haven’t had good luck with the task brand poles, in Canada fastcap third hands are rare but we have a similar version that goes on sale at princess auto ( princess auto is like harbour freight) that I’ve had really good luck with
@@edover50 I still think Zip Poles are the better investment.
I just keep thinking about the Seinfeld Bubble Boy episode... MOOPS!
How about cleaning up the dust within the workspace? Could you attach a HVAC filter on a box fan?
It's not necessary, in fact it would probably be counter productive. Most compounds have a fairly heavy dust. It pretty much falls directly to the floor when you sand so long as there isn't any air movement in the room, such that a box fan filter would provide.
Protect the floor, put up a curtain like these ones and use a good vacuum with a fine filter, you're good to go. I did strictly drywall repair and refinishing for 10 years full time, and all of my property managers praised me for how satisfied their tenets were with how clean I kept everything. Keeping things clean kept me in business.
I have those same poles and had a similar pole fall inside a customers finished room. Luckily missed a lamp and nice table. I like the idea, but feel those yellow poles are a bit too heavy and not designed optimally for the task. Fastcap or Zipwall seems like a much better designed product. Now that I think about it, does anyone want to buy 4 slightly used yellow poles?
Much more expensive would be something like the Festool Drywall Sander/Vacuum: The Planex.
New camera?
Naw man zip poles comes with a rubber foot that goes between the plastic and the drywall/floor. This way you have good grip
Yeah looks like he’s using something made more for holding upper cabinets while installing
Cory Norris these come in different lengths. And can be used for multiple tasks. I looked at zip poles. These are cheaper and work just as good.
Pete Pistachio clearly
I think you’re missing the rubber pieces. They go on the ceiling side of the poly and click into the flat part at the end of the pole. At least that’s how my zip poles are.
The fastcap are much better
Seriously? You didn't think of ziptying the poly to the rod and then raising and cranking up?? I'm guessing this was pre-coffee break?
And yes- supposed to use 5 poles to get good coverage and leave a space so you can slip in and out of the work area.
A learning curve? Really
Yeah those poles look too fussy to use.
More of a blue tape kinda guy
I'd rather spend the extra $120 and get twice as many Zip Wall poles which are much faster and time is money.
Lol
Poles look like a terrible design, I use one that have a trigger that tightens the more you pull the trigger, similar idea to a silicone dispenser gun...
Those poles are weird, all the ones I've seen are like a caulk gun with a trigger, they have never fallen over on me.