I also like to think that Dahlia wanted to kill Maya (aside revenge on Mia) was also she could get apreciation from her mother. Something like "See mom, I wasn't useless like you told me to! You were wrong for abandoning us!"
Seeing as you covered what if scenarios before (for example if Godot woke up during Mia's murder) i would love to see your take on an Attorney Edgeworth and Prosecutor Phoenix Wright. Also, stellar work as usual!
Thanks! Tbh I cover scenarios that either happened off screen, or could have happened but didn't. Edgeworth could have certainly become a defense attorney if Gregory didn't die. But I don't know how Phoenix could ever end up as a prosecutor 😅
@@debastiansebeste Well, he said that he would become a prosecutor to accuse Larry, after discovering the real culprit for stealing the lunch money (even if it was just a momentary thing). I didn't played AA 4 yet, but the Hobo Phoenix could be a prosecutor.
@@debastiansebeste hmm... Gregory Edgeworth does die, but von Karma is caught straight away by another skilled prosecutor. Miles therefore isn't manipulated into becoming a prosecutor by him and follows in his father's footsteps just as he originally planned. Phoenix however sees that his best friend was saved by this hypothetical prosecutor (Miles was probably one of the other suspects... come to think of it this might be an au where Gant doesn't fuck with Gregory's testimony if we go by your take on Gregory's channeling) and is inspired to become a prosecutor as a result just a quick thought experiment and honestly kind of a stretch but it's fun to think about
@@debastiansebesteprosecutor phoenix wright could work if larry butz had stolen phoenix wright's money instead of edgeworth, i have a hc that phoenix wright used to want to be a prosecutor when he was a child, paralleling how edgeworth wanted to be a defense attorney back when he was a child too. Of course, after the school trial thing, phoenix wright was discouraged from the idea of being a prosecutor, and instead decided that protecting the innocent would be a far better idea (also him wanting to find edgeworth does have to do with him being a defense attorney too iirc, so yknow). So, the main idea is to twist the story a bit so that phoenix wright decides to become a prosecutor.
Expertly done. I love how you show how much of a monster Morgan truly was, since Dahlia does mention ingame that Morgan wanted to kill her in prison. Only one thing keeping this from absolute perfection: Maya did say she screamed "Help me!" when she spotted Godot, right before he stabbed Dahlia. But that's a small detail, Otherwise this was excellent! Great job. :D
It's eerily scary who their conflict reflects my maternal family's conflict. Her family is a political empire somewhere in a small place, and I have heard a few incidents of infighting between them....even murder once. Glad I never got involved but killing for power. It's quite common
@@debastiansebeste I upvoted and had great fun, but I strongly disagree. After being abandoned as a child, roaming the world, killing left and right and taking 100-meter dives into freezing, currenty rivers, Dahlia is hardened and would never have any of this "do this you worthless child" stuff from a woman she hated so much. Also, her desire for revenge is something she can control or, at least, bluff - whereas Morgan's plan is something that is evidently important to herself, so Dahlia has the upper hand in the negotiation. I'd expect something along "if you want me to help in your plan, talk with respect, pathetic bitch". Morgan would *have* to agree and Dahlia would have gained another ego prize.
Honestly Morgan may have not had the biggest impact as a villain, but seeing the interaction between her and Dahlia really shows that she is far more evil than the games show.
@@Veriox22 Damn right. Not only did she kick 2 of her children out for not filling her quota, she had the audacity to ask her *older daughter* to die and use her *younger daughter* as a vessel to murder her *niece* . Seriously, it's not hard to see how Dahlia ended up so messed up. Not many Ace Attorney villains I've seen were as evil as Morgan Fey
@@debastiansebeste Dahlia has the most tragic backstory, as not only her mother was disgusting, but her dad was also terrible. He divorced Morgan because he was disappointed she didnt become Master and so he didn't get special privileges. He didn't hesitate to give Iris away like she wasn't his daughter either. With parents like these, it's no wonder why Dahlia ended up like that.
@@debastiansebeste Actually, Mia told her after she woke up during the last recess. Mia specifically told that to Phoenix. Phoenix even goes "Why would you tell her ?!", Mia responding with "Maya's stronger than you think. I know she can handle it." That's why Maya knew : she learned everything from Mia after waking up in the courtroom. If you wanna check ingame, it's said during the very last recess after Dahlia's spirit gone back to hell, when Mia and Phoenix are talking in the defendant's lobby.
@@TruceDoesStuff oh I'm almost ready to finish SoJ (I'm at the last case and reached Jove's you-know-what) and I loved it. And rn I'm so full of ideas, ngl xD
@@Th3celectcialstsr say no more, got plenty more of Dahlia vids lmao ua-cam.com/video/4-WeaD2e9T8/v-deo.htmlsi=GF0d10uRz99xhx7C ua-cam.com/video/Zps4Nj_RJn8/v-deo.htmlsi=jgniVEJnRhCjH6sK ua-cam.com/video/JVhlqsZXlHY/v-deo.htmlsi=BZrDz8gpOGMTPnvK ua-cam.com/video/RgvmM1YlKys/v-deo.htmlsi=fOLk0-1d6aNHWQoX
Uh, but that's a misconception. The spirit medium always takes the form of the spirit she channels. Just like how Maya and Pearl always look like Mia when they channel her. When Misty Fey channeled Dahlia, she changed and looked like Dahlia. Which is why Dahlia pretended to be Iris at first.
@@debastiansebeste And because the two are twins, it would be easier to display Dahlia as Iris since she would have black hair instead of her red hair, due to Misty channeling her. Makes sense.
@@wingadept8793 yep. The Dahlia you see in my thumbnail is from the game itself, from the cutscene where she is shown attacking Maya. So she pretty much intentionally dressed up and even did her hair to look like Iris. After all, it was Morgan's plan that Dahlia pinned everything on her sister
Oof that's sad. But in my own headcanon Godot's fine, got over Mia's death and he's simply serving his sentence in prison until he's released. I refuse to believe he's dead 😅
That's really good, but I think that you use... not so fitting music, you know Telling the truth 2001 is really good, but it's song of revealing truth of Mia, Hammer, Hammond, Goodman and Marshall death, so I think, maybe 2004 version is more fitting. Also, we really don't know, how many Maya learn from Dahlia in canon... But I think that when she realised situation, she should better run away and cry as loud as possible)))) P.S. Are you draw mouth animations for this sprites or it was in original?
Well, according to canon, Dahlia and Maya didn't speak at all (I think). Dahlia simply attacked Maya and Godot stopped her. So none of what is shown here reflects canon, I just wanted to see how a dialogue between Maya and Dahlia would go (so I couldn't let Maya run away either :p I saw as if she was that cornered that she couldn't run away or something) As for the music, honestly I always go by instinct. I carefully listened to all the truth OSTs, and this one made a click to me better than the others. I didn't stop to consider what situations it's been used in before, I just thought "yes, that's the one I want for this scene" Also thanks for showing me how to upscale in Waifu2x, I found what I was doing wrong and upscaled all Maya's PXZ sprites from scratch as you can see 😁
@@debastiansebeste I see. Well, I just think that PXZ sprites actually didn't have any animations, that's why I think: «Oh, he actually draw mouths for it»
@@Mad_Man_With_A_Box yeah I totally drew mouths and blinking eyes. I also made her cry sprite from scratch because it didn't exist (had to draw the mouth and the tears on my own xD) But still that wouldn't be possible without upscaling the sprites first 😁
here's an idea: please make an alternate timeline were pearl channeled daliha like how morgan planned, then godot killed her. everything is the same in the last case for ace attorney 3 except the victim is pearl.
Omg that would be absolutely depressing and sad :'( Not to mention, Misty Fey would be unfittingly smiling all the time despite her niece's death, because her sprites only have "Smile" and "Smile more" poses 😂 But you gave me a good idea. What would happen if Godot had actually managed to restrain Dahlia without killing her host? That would shake things up a lot I think 🤔
this hurts to imagine, ouch :(( Misty dying was tragic enough, but with her disappearance after DL-6 she was pretty much already "dead" to her family so it didn't hurt as much. Pearls... i don't even want to think about it, sadly i don't think even knowing it's an innocent 8 year old would've stopped Godot
@@LFFunEmporium if you're interested in Dahlia content, I got you her supercut here, my latest vid ;) ua-cam.com/video/Zps4Nj_RJn8/v-deo.htmlsi=TKDGPx2e2F8eBX7d
The inaccuracy starts at the fact that Dahlia never talked with Maya when she tried to kill her :p I swear so many guys love looking for mistakes and inaccuracies in my vids xD
Don't ask me, ask Takumi :p Jokes aside, she probably got it as she was at the same prison as Dahlia at the time, and managed to get the guards to arrange her a meeting with Dahlia through her connections I'm honestly so glad the writers eventually stopped with the constant death sentence trope. Sentencing every convict to death sounded way too lazy to me lol
i love how godot spawns and throws coffee without throwing coffee but throws coffee but it doesnt really look like coffee but its a sprite of throwing coffee but GODDAMN HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID COFFEE
I like how Godot just *exists* and just
**B O N K**
Certified bonk moment
@@debastiansebeste Where'd he come from?
@@BottleofJarritos from the Hazakura Temple proper I think
Godot went into the bridge before the bridge collapsed.
Well it was more like a "slash" if anything.
“So what does she do?”
“She starts monologuing?”
“SHE STARTS MONOLOGUING!”
No wonder Godot bested her, Frozone was right all along 😱
Damn
All these hypothetical objection lol's are insane. They're also really cool still. What works definitely works after all, lol.
Yeah! I guess there's still plenty of stuff we never actually saw on camera, but was off-screen.
Well, even better for us and our lols 😂
@@debastiansebeste Yeah, lmao.
Holy frick, the very final act felt so real Just how much of a AA fan are you :O
Too much, I'm afraid 😂
@@debastiansebeste I like that amount lol same here
This certainly was a worthy "eyewitness report".
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx useful enough to prove the defendant guilty for being a fanboy to AA like us lul
@@debastiansebeste I'd say that's a good thing. Plus, you're really good at telling stories and creating lore behind some of these tragedies.
Godot: It's boot to the head time, Dahlia.
Dahlia: *_D'oh!_* (dies again)
Another W made by Debastian fr
I also like to think that Dahlia wanted to kill Maya (aside revenge on Mia) was also she could get apreciation from her mother. Something like "See mom, I wasn't useless like you told me to! You were wrong for abandoning us!"
Seeing as you covered what if scenarios before (for example if Godot woke up during Mia's murder) i would love to see your take on an Attorney Edgeworth and Prosecutor Phoenix Wright. Also, stellar work as usual!
Thanks! Tbh I cover scenarios that either happened off screen, or could have happened but didn't. Edgeworth could have certainly become a defense attorney if Gregory didn't die. But I don't know how Phoenix could ever end up as a prosecutor 😅
@@debastiansebeste Well, he said that he would become a prosecutor to accuse Larry, after discovering the real culprit for stealing the lunch money (even if it was just a momentary thing).
I didn't played AA 4 yet, but the Hobo Phoenix could be a prosecutor.
@@TheSonicDBZ that's interesting
@@debastiansebeste hmm... Gregory Edgeworth does die, but von Karma is caught straight away by another skilled prosecutor. Miles therefore isn't manipulated into becoming a prosecutor by him and follows in his father's footsteps just as he originally planned. Phoenix however sees that his best friend was saved by this hypothetical prosecutor (Miles was probably one of the other suspects... come to think of it this might be an au where Gant doesn't fuck with Gregory's testimony if we go by your take on Gregory's channeling) and is inspired to become a prosecutor as a result
just a quick thought experiment and honestly kind of a stretch but it's fun to think about
@@debastiansebesteprosecutor phoenix wright could work if larry butz had stolen phoenix wright's money instead of edgeworth, i have a hc that phoenix wright used to want to be a prosecutor when he was a child, paralleling how edgeworth wanted to be a defense attorney back when he was a child too. Of course, after the school trial thing, phoenix wright was discouraged from the idea of being a prosecutor, and instead decided that protecting the innocent would be a far better idea (also him wanting to find edgeworth does have to do with him being a defense attorney too iirc, so yknow). So, the main idea is to twist the story a bit so that phoenix wright decides to become a prosecutor.
Catching up on stuff I missed before I started following.
Just outstanding. And I love Dahlia's "Objection!".
i never knew that Dahlia had an objection
Me neither. I accidentally discovered that the custom Iris I got from Discord had one. I imagine it's a custom objection
Expertly done. I love how you show how much of a monster Morgan truly was, since Dahlia does mention ingame that Morgan wanted to kill her in prison. Only one thing keeping this from absolute perfection: Maya did say she screamed "Help me!" when she spotted Godot, right before he stabbed Dahlia.
But that's a small detail, Otherwise this was excellent! Great job. :D
It's eerily scary who their conflict reflects my maternal family's conflict. Her family is a political empire somewhere in a small place, and I have heard a few incidents of infighting between them....even murder once. Glad I never got involved but killing for power. It's quite common
Love the interaction between Morgan and Dahlia.
Momma casually shutting her kid down and showing her how to be the big villain
@@debastiansebeste I upvoted and had great fun, but I strongly disagree. After being abandoned as a child, roaming the world, killing left and right and taking 100-meter dives into freezing, currenty rivers, Dahlia is hardened and would never have any of this "do this you worthless child" stuff from a woman she hated so much. Also, her desire for revenge is something she can control or, at least, bluff - whereas Morgan's plan is something that is evidently important to herself, so Dahlia has the upper hand in the negotiation. I'd expect something along "if you want me to help in your plan, talk with respect, pathetic bitch". Morgan would *have* to agree and Dahlia would have gained another ego prize.
Honestly Morgan may have not had the biggest impact as a villain, but seeing the interaction between her and Dahlia really shows that she is far more evil than the games show.
@@Veriox22 Damn right. Not only did she kick 2 of her children out for not filling her quota, she had the audacity to ask her *older daughter* to die and use her *younger daughter* as a vessel to murder her *niece* .
Seriously, it's not hard to see how Dahlia ended up so messed up. Not many Ace Attorney villains I've seen were as evil as Morgan Fey
@@debastiansebeste Dahlia has the most tragic backstory, as not only her mother was disgusting, but her dad was also terrible. He divorced Morgan because he was disappointed she didnt become Master and so he didn't get special privileges. He didn't hesitate to give Iris away like she wasn't his daughter either. With parents like these, it's no wonder why Dahlia ended up like that.
That explains why she never asked the details in the trial.
Yeah. Maya definitely knew something beforehand. I mean, I couldn't imagine Dahlia trying to kill Maya without saying a single word to her first
@@debastiansebeste Actually, Mia told her after she woke up during the last recess. Mia specifically told that to Phoenix. Phoenix even goes "Why would you tell her ?!", Mia responding with "Maya's stronger than you think. I know she can handle it." That's why Maya knew : she learned everything from Mia after waking up in the courtroom. If you wanna check ingame, it's said during the very last recess after Dahlia's spirit gone back to hell, when Mia and Phoenix are talking in the defendant's lobby.
Dahlia: Ugh curse Phoenix and Iris and especially Mia if it wasn't for them my plan would have been perfect
Also curse Valerie and Fawles and Misty and Godot and anyone else who meddled with my plans, which is pretty much everyone at this point 😂
@@debastiansebeste Dahlia: Hmm true but it was those three that mainly caused my downfall
an animated pxz2 character? now that's something i knew i needed
Yeah. I'm surprised no one did it before, this Maya is perfect for Investigations videos
Bruh your Ace Attorney skits are the friggin best!
Great videos you gotta continue making vids like these extending what the games don't really show us
That's the idea so far! Though I feel I'm starting to run out of ideas so any suggestions are welcome 😂
@@debastiansebeste you will get more ideas when completed with soj/dlc
@@TruceDoesStuff oh I'm almost ready to finish SoJ (I'm at the last case and reached Jove's you-know-what) and I loved it. And rn I'm so full of ideas, ngl xD
@@debastiansebeste SoJ is the investigations 2 of aa5 and aa6
@@TruceDoesStuff I'm gonna have to agree. It's great and made me quite sentimental, the whole reveal with Dhurke gave me "Apollo's T&T" vibes tbh
These are amazing
Great job dude
I watched this about a month ago, and I just found out this is fanmade😂
Now this is the best kind of praise an objectiontuber can hope to get 😂 Glad to hear that mate 😁
This was really great!
Do you think sometime in the future you could make one about maya asking mia for help and her telling maya to channel dahlia?
Damn. Ngl the scene you mention would definitely be a great addition to this video as an extra closure
That's so cool!❤
I would love to see more videos of Dahlia🤩
@@Th3celectcialstsr say no more, got plenty more of Dahlia vids lmao
ua-cam.com/video/4-WeaD2e9T8/v-deo.htmlsi=GF0d10uRz99xhx7C
ua-cam.com/video/Zps4Nj_RJn8/v-deo.htmlsi=jgniVEJnRhCjH6sK
ua-cam.com/video/JVhlqsZXlHY/v-deo.htmlsi=BZrDz8gpOGMTPnvK
ua-cam.com/video/RgvmM1YlKys/v-deo.htmlsi=fOLk0-1d6aNHWQoX
I feel like this would've been more accurate if it was with Misty Fey rather than Iris.
Uh, but that's a misconception. The spirit medium always takes the form of the spirit she channels. Just like how Maya and Pearl always look like Mia when they channel her.
When Misty Fey channeled Dahlia, she changed and looked like Dahlia. Which is why Dahlia pretended to be Iris at first.
@@debastiansebeste And because the two are twins, it would be easier to display Dahlia as Iris since she would have black hair instead of her red hair, due to Misty channeling her. Makes sense.
@@wingadept8793 yep. The Dahlia you see in my thumbnail is from the game itself, from the cutscene where she is shown attacking Maya. So she pretty much intentionally dressed up and even did her hair to look like Iris. After all, it was Morgan's plan that Dahlia pinned everything on her sister
Hahah funny ghostdot appeard goes stab hahaha....
haha Ghost.....
ಥ_ಥ
Oof that's sad. But in my own headcanon Godot's fine, got over Mia's death and he's simply serving his sentence in prison until he's released. I refuse to believe he's dead 😅
@@debastiansebesteyeah i hope he appeared in Ace Attorney 7
My goodness, punched right in the back! 😳
More like coffee mugged xD
That's really good, but I think that you use... not so fitting music, you know
Telling the truth 2001 is really good, but it's song of revealing truth of Mia, Hammer, Hammond, Goodman and Marshall death, so I think, maybe 2004 version is more fitting.
Also, we really don't know, how many Maya learn from Dahlia in canon... But I think that when she realised situation, she should better run away and cry as loud as possible))))
P.S. Are you draw mouth animations for this sprites or it was in original?
Well, according to canon, Dahlia and Maya didn't speak at all (I think). Dahlia simply attacked Maya and Godot stopped her. So none of what is shown here reflects canon, I just wanted to see how a dialogue between Maya and Dahlia would go (so I couldn't let Maya run away either :p I saw as if she was that cornered that she couldn't run away or something)
As for the music, honestly I always go by instinct. I carefully listened to all the truth OSTs, and this one made a click to me better than the others. I didn't stop to consider what situations it's been used in before, I just thought "yes, that's the one I want for this scene"
Also thanks for showing me how to upscale in Waifu2x, I found what I was doing wrong and upscaled all Maya's PXZ sprites from scratch as you can see 😁
@@debastiansebeste I see.
Well, I just think that PXZ sprites actually didn't have any animations, that's why I think: «Oh, he actually draw mouths for it»
@@Mad_Man_With_A_Box yeah I totally drew mouths and blinking eyes. I also made her cry sprite from scratch because it didn't exist (had to draw the mouth and the tears on my own xD)
But still that wouldn't be possible without upscaling the sprites first 😁
here's an idea: please make an alternate timeline were pearl channeled daliha like how morgan planned, then godot killed her.
everything is the same in the last case for ace attorney 3 except the victim is pearl.
Omg that would be absolutely depressing and sad :'(
Not to mention, Misty Fey would be unfittingly smiling all the time despite her niece's death, because her sprites only have "Smile" and "Smile more" poses 😂
But you gave me a good idea. What would happen if Godot had actually managed to restrain Dahlia without killing her host? That would shake things up a lot I think 🤔
@@debastiansebeste please do it
this hurts to imagine, ouch :(( Misty dying was tragic enough, but with her disappearance after DL-6 she was pretty much already "dead" to her family so it didn't hurt as much. Pearls... i don't even want to think about it, sadly i don't think even knowing it's an innocent 8 year old would've stopped Godot
I think that if it was Pearl the victim Godot would have maybe confessed to the murder asap??? Cuz it's rlly awful
Can I have the codes for Maya and Iris? (The one with the objection)
Available character codes can be found in the vid's description ;)
@@debastiansebeste thanks but it dosent show Maya's code
@@GetSurgeD22 she's my custom character and I'm keeping her private, sorry 😅
@@debastiansebeste oh ok
мне кажется ударил далию не посохом тоесть ножом а рукой или чашкой кофе
Certified Godot caffeine moment lmao
Is there one for what if Dahlia decided to be good?
Well, no. At least not yet. Right now I'm making a video with Dahlia's pov throughout her whole life
@@debastiansebeste Def need more dahlia content
@@LFFunEmporium if you're interested in Dahlia content, I got you her supercut here, my latest vid ;)
ua-cam.com/video/Zps4Nj_RJn8/v-deo.htmlsi=TKDGPx2e2F8eBX7d
cool
Merci ;)
Godot ex Machina
Double meaning since Deus = God, so Godot = Deus-ot ex machina 😱
@@debastiansebeste glad you got the joke
A slight inaccuracy.. Dalia stabbed Godot before she died.. That's how he got his scar after all.
The inaccuracy starts at the fact that Dahlia never talked with Maya when she tried to kill her :p
I swear so many guys love looking for mistakes and inaccuracies in my vids xD
@@debastiansebeste Sorry for the nitpicking lol
@@arkabratadas4350 no worries, nitpicking has its own charm I guess
Is there going to be a part 2 of this one?
Probably not. Since technically it acts as an off screen scene
@@debastiansebeste Aww man. I was hoping to see how Maya channeling Mia and Mia telling Maya to channel Dahlia Hawthorne would turn out.
Is that *_Morgan_* channeling Dahlia?
Lmao no it's Misty Fey, hence why Godot killed her
Are those the Project X Zone 2 sprites for Maya!?
Yep. I upscaled them in waifu2x and animated her eyes and mouth
@@debastiansebeste Man Project X Zone 2 is one of my favorite games ever! So glad to see something from it used!
Did Godot just kill Pearl?
You mean Misty
Why didn’t Morgan Fey get the death sentence?
Don't ask me, ask Takumi :p
Jokes aside, she probably got it as she was at the same prison as Dahlia at the time, and managed to get the guards to arrange her a meeting with Dahlia through her connections
I'm honestly so glad the writers eventually stopped with the constant death sentence trope. Sentencing every convict to death sounded way too lazy to me lol
@@debastiansebeste I see
i love how godot spawns and throws coffee without throwing coffee but throws coffee but it doesnt really look like coffee but its a sprite of throwing coffee but GODDAMN HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID COFFEE
He spawns dark bitter coffee with deadly swords on the side 😱