The First Emperor Clone - Caravan Of Garbage
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Emperor Palpatine is returning for Star Wars Episode 9 The Rise Of Skywalker. Before we review that let's revisit the 1991 Dark Horse comic, Dark Empire, acting as a sequel to the original trilogy that had The Emperor clone himself to go up against Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia and Han Solo. Before we had dark side Rey we got dark side Luke Skywalker, plus the return of Boba Fett, Jedi Holocrons, force projection and amazing action sequences but in a comic! This is our Caravan Of Garbage review, thanks for watching.
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I would watch entire comic books animated/narrated like this
There is a Japanese anime clip on UA-cam and it's phenomenal
@@robertjacques6812 go on
@@robertjacques6812 "There is a Japanese anime clip on UA-cam" -- This is certainly true, but what does it have to do with Star Wars?
@@ThreadBomb presumably it's about these Star Wars comics mentioned in the OP, since it's an answer to the OP
@@ThreadBomb I think they meant these anime style star wars shorts Disney made. They're surprisingly good for Disney star wars stuff, just search "star wars anime" there are a few of them, each one only a couple minutes long.
Trivia they forgot to mention from the comic is that the emperor can only transfer his mind if he says Maclunkey before he dies.
I bet that's what Greedo was trying to do before Han shot him.
Is this the equivalent of saying uno before you win?
@@DrowzyDruid precisely. No macklunky, no rebirth.
This joke was dead by the end of that video.
@@Firmus777 MACKLUNKEY
“You’re gonna shit bricks. It’s incredible” -Emperor Palpatine
Oh I'm afraid your shattle station will be fully constipational when your bricks arrive.
😂💩
I want this quote on my headstone.
"It's not a sex thing."
"Let's go get your sister's baby, so I can be a baby"
- Emperor Palpatine
Man I remember that Opera scene in Revenge of the Sith,
"Yo Anakin Imma take you to my bed chambers and show you some wicked force stuff you're gonna shit bricks man it's sick..... it's not a sex thing"
"I mean unless you're cool with it being a sex thing???)
Anakin: " Sure " it isn't!😏
Game cube and Jack Johnson?
Then his apprentice "killed" him in his "sleep "
My favorite Star Wars scene goes like this......"I'm afraid the sex chamber will be quite operational"......."Execute order sexty-sex"
“He dies like a big Dracula”
*poetry*
It rhymes
We need a buddy cop movie starring Luuke and Bigger Luke.
Plus regular Luke
And Luuuke throws Booba Fett into The Saarlac Pitt
@@TheStoneyJackson Booba Fett's the female Fett right?
Slightly taller than Boba
Oh the fun they'd have, getting into scrapes, solving crimes, cutting off each others' hands...
BattleUp Saber Luke and Palpatine adventures
nude lightsaber fights: one of JJ's notorious reshoots at the 11th hour for TROS.
Altered Carbon be like
ROS not TROS
@K3sselRun5 dude i said that 2 years ago
"Ian McDiarmid being the head of the Senate?".......I think you mean BEING the Senate.
Vanquish Not yet!
@@aidanrogers4438 , then it's treason
@@dannydoo8717 autistic screaming
@@dannydoo8717 UNLIMITED POWWWWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canon: "Somehow, Palpatine returned"
Legends: "Oh shit it's Tuesday, better go kill the latest Palpatine clone"
This video was highly entertaining, but goddam the art style in this really surprised me. Incredible design work
Cam Kennedy. I grew up seeing his art in 2000 AD.
I love the art in this book.
Sharp inks and details and interesting use of color.
Vividly remember his art on the Dredd story Midnight Surfer.
Seriously one of the best comics ever. I still have every issue!
@Conn Benn Yea I'm not a big fan of it either. Don't really like how they seem to just use random colors. Like for some reason everything will be a shade of yellow or red and purple. Also didn't like how the lightsabers looked.
Best part is when the Emperor thinks he's got it all under control, realizes Leia took the holocron he handed her, and then flips out. What a maroon.
Ayy Sal loved the back issues of this when you covered it ages ago
I wish comic books still had this type of coloring
The art reminded me of a daredevil run from the mid 90s I really loved. There’s amazing art to be found nowadays, but the 80s and 90s had a really weird general style to them that was interesting.
Check out Christian Ward’s art. It’s kinda psychedelic and spacey
Manolo Quintero thanks for that recommendation. The art on his site looks amazing, def gonna pick something up by him
Some do. Deadly class is great.
How do you go about making these motion comics?
The basic animations I take care of, it's just a matter of separating the elements then making them move about and stuff. As for what Erik does, I have no idea. Some kind of magic or devil worship.
@@mrsundaymovies are u looking forward to seeing episode 9
Mr Sunday Movies I always thought you just shouted random stuff at your computer & flapped your arms about. It’s that isn’t it?
@@mrsundaymovies I thought you did a great job with this one tbh
You take a comic
And you animate it
Maclunky
"I'm gonna show you some crazy force stuff. You're gonna shit bricks. It's incredible."
That part gave me a good laugh.
I too hope to one day die like a big dracula
Yeee boiiiisss
I love how one writer made a point of incorporating this story in his trilogy of books and every other writer just steered as clear of it as humanly possible.
Even to the point where the only other reference to I can think of, Mara Jade says something like ‘the emperors clone or whatever it was you saw’
Mara references Luke dabbling in the Dark Side during the Hand of Thrawn duology (she references it, not he did it), and how that was part of why she didn't fully commit to his Jedi academy during the Jedi Academy trilogy.
Anyone who's seen TROS already knows they HAD to have gotten ideas from this comic
Remember how disney fans used this comic as example of how bad EU was to justify the canon cleansig to have space for new 'better' stories after ROTJ?
I don't remember people hating Dark Empire. It was pretty well liked. The Dark Empire sequels, however, dragged it through the mud. Just awful.
Ah, still had cool mom£nts. Last one a bit meh.
Thy took the projection pow£r from TLJ straight from this comic.
@Tom Ffrench Bruh lmfao. Terrible context and plot but tons of CGI and Money = Disney Sequels
@@justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885 but they didn't bring bring palpatine multiple times
I loved the part in Rise of Skywalker when Rey brings the book to Leia with Luke’s notes and Leia says, “I f**kin love this. This is great.”
retroactively titling this "the better return" after seeing the rise of skywalker is one of the ballsiest things you guys have done and I love you for it
They didn't...?
@@flyingpigproductions5934 that comment was back from like a week after the video came out, they changed the title again since then
Anyone else reminded of all the Spiderman clones in the 90s by this Emperor clone business?
That's what I was thinking all that's needed is for a clone to swing towards a wall and explode!
Unfortunately yes
I love how you guys animate the comics to go with James summary, better than some channels that do comic summaries exclusively
This video is just like 2017's Justice League.
We are all having fun with it, Mason included.
Well we know Melbournes all in
This was much more believable when it came out as it was the return of Star Wars after a comics hiatus. Also Dave Dorman and Cam Kennedy are true comic art legends.
The amount of hate this got over the years is so uncalled for. Like why can't people just get off Anakin's dick and realize the hero doesn't always have to win or the story isn't always going to end as you "think" it should ? How many times in real life have events started to played out with an obvious ending only for some mad shit to take place and fuck everything up ? Or in some instances make things better...
BlackShogun 27 same problem with how everyone feels towards the sequels. People can always choose to except where a story ends but I always like it when “happy endings” are challenged.
@WillFanofMany
To be fair, this came out before the prequels and the "Chosen One" prophecy. Even then, Yoda himself wondered if the Jedi misread it.
@@johnnygyro2295 , back then It was just the original three Star Wars movies, the Heir to the Empire book trilogy, and the Dark Empire comic book mini-series. Everyone enjoyed it.
This and Shadows of the Empire were my first introductions to the expanded universe as a kid. I didn't know there were two sequels to this. You should do them too.
I wouldn't waste my time on the two sequels...they are trash and are insulting to the original mini-series.
This is overrated tbh
but Shadows of the Empire is peak
"Let's go get your sisters baby so I can be a baby."
- Just the most awe inspiring words from Palps to Luke.
Literally just Rise of Skywalker but set earlier and with the OT cast instead of the prequel cast.
Prequel?
@@johnnygyro2295 The fourth Star Wars trilogy will reveal Star Wars exists in a time loop
@@MrHendrix17 Ben is his own grandpa confirmed
@@LostHeadStudios luke is his own father confirmed
Funny how bringing back the emperor was one of the most hated parts of the old expanded universe and disney did exactly that
Emperor:*jumps into a new body*
Luke Skywalker:How many times I have to teach you as lesson old man!
At first I thought it was really weird when the emperor appeared in TROS fully nude but now I know it was actually a call back. Thanks guys
the other comics? in the wise words of the emperor : DEW IT
Yes emperor quote is very fitting because the comics are dark side garbage xD
Oh yes. It is an order.
I'm sorry Dark Kronos I think his exact words were Yesss.....Yess..... Mountain Dew it!!!!
I want more Emperor clones.
Darth rey
@@cxyj4y 3 days away
@@jarrodedson5441 Darth Rey or snoke which is gonna be the clone.. find out on the next episode
@@cxyj4y are you excited for episode 9
Isn’t it like 99% certain either Rey or Snoke are Palpatine clones or some garbage
"There's bad imperial stuff." - Mon Mothma
>He dies like a big Dracula
"NO, THIS CANNOT BE! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH."
Postcard of Palpy burns up
I once was threatened for saying the Last Jedi was “ok” instead of terrible. They told me to read Dark Empire instead, saying that it didn’t make the same mistakes. I find that it did the same things as TLJ but worse; Luke actually turning to the dark side, palpatine in the form of a kid near the end, hell, I think the Emperor even said that Endor wasn’t the first time he died.
I had a similar experience but I read the comic with out anyone recommending it. Yeah as soon as Luke projected himself I came to basically the same conclusion as you. Except I liked TLJ. But this is still kind of bad though.
Dank Lord I wouldn’t say I hated the last jedi, I thought it was only ok. I made the mistake of mentioning that in a comment once. First time I had two people threaten to kill me over a fucking movie. Now, I once worked night shift in a liquor store, so it’s not the dumbest thing someone’s threatened to kill me over, but still.
@@lazymansload520 But equally, if you criticise any single thing in the ST for whatever reason, you'll get someone yelling a reply with "you people...." and told that you need to watch it again in order to learn to understand and enjoy everything, and anyway it's no different than the problems in the OT, and anyway Luke already had his trilogy... racist, misogynist, neckbeard etc. Seems like very few people are capable of listening.
I thought Luke was faking turning to the Dark Side in this? Regardless, I would honestly prefer Luke turning to the Dark Side and doing something, over the hopeless do-nothing Jake Skywalker we actually got.
Andy Howard sometimes inaction could be a viable action. I think his point was how the Jedi kept getting involved in things they should’ve stayed out of, from investigating the separatist movement to leading the clone army into battle. They’re actions, along with their conviction that their actions would improve matters, played into Palpatine’s hands.
That art is *Gorgeous* wtf, I'm in awe.
the funny thing is it actually does make some some sense. The whole clone army thing was basically just the Emperor testing the viability of clone bodies en masse.
Sometimes Sheev really does seem like the mastermind that Lucas intended. And sometimes he just seems like a doofus who claims to know the future even though he literally never seems to have seen anything coming at all.
"Come into my bed chambers. We'll have a nude lightsaber fight." -Maso, 2019
It should be a reoccurring gag in all the movies that boba Fett shows up and then dies but in a way where you could claim he didn’t actually die so he can come back for the next movie and fake die again
You guys should talk about the thrawn trilogy next!
hell yes, this is what we should have had as the sequels instead of the trash we got
How would that work for their format?
Young clone Palpatine was actually supposed to resemble Anthony Hopkins.
Is he a eunuch too?
James, obviously we want the others too. Love these!
I wish you guys would do more of these. James recounting stories to Maso is the only tolerable way for me to consume any EU schlock.
Dude I MISS their comic COGs
I did like The Last Jedi, but once I found out you two like it I guess I don't now because I know James feeds of negative comments like some sort of mad hate vampire
I hate the last Jedi
Try writing him a comment about a fact that he already knows, but didn't mention, and phrase it as if he doesn't.
Like this; Actually, in Lucas' original plans the Emperor wouldn't have been destroyed until IX, but they moved it forward to VI
the Last Jedi was a great movie IMO
As long as he admits its objectively poorly written, he can like it all he wants
@@FinalFilmComment oh it had great ideas but poor execution. I appreciate what they tried to do but acknowledge it could have been bettet.
I read Dark Empire as a youth - I didn't remember the art but seeing it now - it's gorgeous!
In the novelization of the first film (which came out before the film itself) it was revealed that his name was Palpatine and that he was a senator who became "President" of the Republic (changed to Chancellor for the PT) before declaring himself Emperor around the time the Jedi were taken out. So the basics of his backstory were there from the beginning. The only real difference is that the prologue to the novel assumes that his cronies likely have the real power and he is basically a puppet who is hidden away from the people, but even that can be seen as a theory by the people since it is an in-universe document from the "Journal of the Whills."
The first movie as in episode 1, 4 or 7? Im actually curious about this but is it more of them telling the future or them just saying what happened in the past?
@@aquadonkey. he's talking about a new hope (aka episode 4), so.. yeah.
You guys make the funniest star wars comments. Luke cutting of his own hand. Last time it was a new skywalker who flipped from birth and kept flipping. So simple humor but so well delivered. Love it. Makes me laugh for real instead of lolling.
6 years of storytelling in 13 minutes
Literally the stop-everything, laugh-out-loud moment for me was artoo-dee-too's "Weeee-Bdeep?". Best. Star Wars. Dialogue. Ever.
I could sworn this video was titled differently yesterday.. like “The First Return of the Emperor” or something like that.
Welp, guess Mr Sunday Movies just saw The Rise of Skywalker.
YES give us more sequels! i kinda like how ambitious the comics try to be, and i really like the art style
Actually in early drafts Michael Joseph Jackson was gonna play palpatine
God damn I LOVE Cam Kennedy's art, in this and all his 2000AD stuff too, he's so underrated.
‘Just so you know we liked the last Jedi’
It’s treason then
As someone who really didn't like Last Jedi, I really like their trolling of the people obsessed with it.
I tried rewatching it and it honestly felt like a chore
Yeah i also like when they make fun of TLJ haters.
Jonny Drogba but... they didn’t do that...
@@captainbritain7379 They did though. What do you mean?
Not exactly trolling, but they are amused at how angry people get if they just mention it.
I'll watch as many of these as you're willing to make, this EU stuff is great.
I wish they could bring these comic videos back, they’re so great. They’re more editing work, but I’d love even just one a year
I actually wouldn’t mind a recap of the other Emperor resurrections.
Ah, yes. Luke's iconic catchphrase: "I don't like you. I don't like this situation."
“The EU is better because it doesn’t have stupid things like palpatine somehow returning like in episode 9”
The EU:
I think you guys should ABSOLUTELY do the rest of the trilogy, because the way the way the Emperor finally dies is SO CHOICE. (From a certain point of view...)
Oh god please cover the yuzahn vong invasion, really want to hear masons non-plused reaction.
4:07 Did the Emperor really say "that's pretty rad" ??? 😂😂😂😂
@Ezio Auditore Well tbh i thought it must be a joke! But since these are pages from a comic, who knows? Sounds like comic-ish dialog😜
This is like epic fan fiction, only it was cannon at one point LMFAO
Yes, we need the Caravan of Garbage of the sequels to this comic. It's not a sex thing.
I think the emperor was lying about having comeback multiple times, he wanted Luke to think he could resurrect indefinitely.
He's even egotistical enough to convince himself of that isn't he
@@eatingpancakesrightnow2786 of course. The size of Palpatine's ego makes the Death Stars look like crumbs 😂
Was just about to sleep cos there was nothing to watch thank you for uploading exactly now
“I’m baby” - Sheev Palpatine
I was already laughing at Mason's "I will not be answering any follow up questions." but the editing at 0:32 had me rolling
I want the entire trilogy. Do it, COWARDS
“The Emperor is very unhappy with this and they lightsaber fight, Luke chopts off his hand 151, chop off hand”
This is still better than any notes I take...
I want the full trilogy of these comics. DO IT
Please do the entire trilogy! I could listen to you guys goof on Star Wars all day.
The emperor coming back as a clone was dumb in the EU, and it’ll probably be dumb in TROS. It’s a good idea, coz it lends credence to the Clone Wars, but it’s been executed badly every time it comes up.
THANK YOU
In The Rise of Skywalker it's not a clone, it's time travel.
Watch RedLetterMedia's predictions. Pretty sure they're right.
It's not better than clones, just saying though.
Never could understand why Luke is wearing Vader's armor, but then again this was EU, the writers didn't care nor did they have to care, so they thought Vader's armor was just a regular Jedi armor and that they all just regularly wore black armor and they just made up whatever they wanted about Jedi to have a lightsaber duel in every story... We suffered a ton of bullshit before Yuuzhan Vong and Darth Caedus came along
If we got "that Luke", i'd still have chills years later, from his badassery!
Yeah true but I still thought the Luke we did get was badass
Luke facing down the entire First Order with the illusion was pretty cool, but its made underwhelming needing him to die to pull it off
@@eatingpancakesrightnow2786 I disagree, he died saving the resistance and giving them hope that their allies will come to help them and that Ben Solo will return. He also used an insane version of the jedi mind trick and if that's not badass I don't know what is.
It was fine.
Wars not make one great. Luminous beings are we. Not this crude matter. A Jedi uses the force for defense, never attack. etc.
That's some trippy looking art.
Sidenote - Mando is way cooler than Boba Fett.
Mr Sunday: A Star Wars story
Shut up and take my money!! LoL!
Mr Sunday:A Star Wars Story(attack of the Mason's)......Someone make a poster for this that's sweet as m8
The Dark Empire comics have some of the most grotesquely beautiful art I've ever seen.
Fun! I got this comics in my Star Wars-starved teens, in the mid 90's. I absolutely enjoy it, still. I also enjoy the new movies, keep em coming, is what I say
I just realized that if they bring back the emperor, it contradicts the profecy George Lucas made about Anakin being the chosen one who defeats the Sith. Apparently, Anakin didn't defeat him.
True, but in the end it does help Luke understand that the Path of the Jedi wasn't meant to be taken alone. Not much of a justification, but it's better than just having Palpatine back just because.
This story was written in mid 90's. The Phantom Menace had not come out yet.
@@Facade953 Yes, but they keep saying Disney is bringing back Palpatine.
I remember a book that i read several years ago that happened the same way as this, but then han solo was the one to kill the emperor in the end.
I think it was Dark Empire: Empires End. It's the 3rd on. Yes there are 3.
Yep, it was pretty awful. Han shoots the Emperor, and the Emperor says:
"Uhhh...you have killed me."
R2 to Luke - “you fucking me with this?”
R2 - I’m just gonna leave this (lightsaber) here”
-- I love when you randomly improvise this stuff --
caravan of garbage idea: looking at the history of garbage cans
God I really, REALLY love the artwork of those old comics. All the space ships, the strange coloring choices, the weird facial expressions...
I'm sure it's not for everybody but it really fuckin does it for me lol
Am I crazy or was the title "The First Return of the Emperor" yesterday???
userunknown203 yeah, I’m guessing they watched the rise of sky walker...
I always felt like these comics didn't really fit into the old EU canon, but the books still had to acknowledge them. This is just such a weird series of events to take place in between the Zahn Thrawn trilogy and the Anderson Jedi Academy trilogy, especially for Luke's characterization.
When comicbook art was stylish.
In a perfect world, I think Domnhall Gleason would have knocked it out out of the park as a young Palpatine clone.
1:50
... I mean... a Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. So... I mean you have to admit that Luke facing down a bunch of First Order Walkers and Kylo Ren without taking a single life, saving the remnants of the resistance and only sacrificing himself is a very Jedi thing to do.
I’m not arguing the merits of TLJ, just saying Luke did the Jedi thing. Most Jedi thing he did in the original trilogy wasn’t beating Vader, but resisting the Dark Side.
wespozo ... no. No he didn’t say that.
@wespozo The Prequels ruined every idea of what a jedi should be and Yoda getting to fight is the prime example of this. Yoda sucks. The guy who should be the wisest jedi and greatest peacekeeper just blindly accepts and leads the clones to fight in the war, is too dumb to figure out it was all a trap and fights with the intent to kill without a second tought... It's too dumb. The Prequels are a shame.
The advice he gave Obiwan when Anakin turned was nothing short of "sorry dude but you gotta kill him, there's no other way."
He's not the same character Luke meets in Dagobah. Can't be.
Ezio Auditore I completely disagree. It doesn’t matter if he was physically there or if he wasn’t. What matters is the example he set and the hope he inspired with his actions. Him actually being there physically standing down the First Order woulda been awesome... but it also would’ve somewhat missed the point.
The point isn’t that the Jedi are a bunch of Überpowerful baddasses that can face down armies. The point is that the Jedi should be able to inspire hope without ever needing to draw their weapon. He doesn’t need to face down the whole First Order with a laser sword, because the First Order is a problem he can’t solve.
Luke’s time is over. He was the hero at the start of the myth, but myths aren’t made to sell toys. Eventually, inevitably, the generations after need to be trusted to handle their own problems. And the generation before’s job is to give them all they need to solve those problems.
Luke couldn’t cut down the First Order. That’s just giving Kylo what he wanted. By not even showing up, he denied Kylo the battle he wanted and gave the resistance the hope they needed.
God the transition to Boba and crew with Solo playing in the background was amazing
You guys should just adapt full comics i this style. I’d love that.
Disney needs ya'll. this was far more entertaining than last jedi by a mile
And this will be the last return of Palpatine
Never to be seen again.....
... until we get a cinematic trilogy showing his origin. It'll be great!
Thread Bomb come to think of it, a story about his origins might be interesting.
It is, what if Palpie had an offspring in his "normal" year's..🙄
@@lazymansload520 You might think so but it turns out, it's not that interesting.
James don't sell yourself short. Your animations are amazing.
I think all star wars movies would be improved if James voiced R2
Yes! Make The Emperor Clone Trilogy! Ya all should call the next one: "The Second Return Of The Emperor - Caravan Of Garbage" or "The Emperor Strikes Back - Caravan Of Garbage" xD
Please do the 90s X-Men, they are so wonderful and terrible at the same time
Please do an "Emperor comes back" trilogy. These Star Wars retrospectives of yours are my favorite!
Been listening to the podcast for 4 years love the content fellas
There’s this legends comic that is about Jar Jar Binks and his dad, George Binks. At one point his dad tries to kill himself after they get shipwrecked. That’d make a good Caravan of Garbage. It’s called “George R. Binks” from Star Wars Tales #20 by dark horse