Awesome! These are going into my pack! Been watching your videos for sometime and haven't been able to support your channel until yesterday because I never had a UA-cam account, so I made one to do just that! Amazing information. Easy to understand, plain and simple and straight to the point every time! Love'em! Appreciate all the videos. BIG THANKS!
Dave, I don't know how you do it man. Regardless of what you make a video on, within an hour or two, the Jesus Christ of bushcrafters has blessed you with a comment in which he explains how what you're doing is stupid and that he could do it better and faster. Half the time his/her comment also makes it apparent that they didn't even pay attention to what you were actually saying. Please keep in mind, most of these folks couldn't set up a mouse trap, much less a primitive in hopes of catching game. Anyway, I just find it amusing that you've been so successful, yet so many apparently know so much more. Lol. The internet, it truly is the domain of know-it-all tough guys.
You NAILED it Ben C. If I don't agree with something on YT I just move on. Why do people waist their time touting how much they know and tell somebody on their own channel how wrong they are when it is just an opinion. If you want to carve the triggers then do it, if you see the benefit in having them in your pack then buy'em. But why drag down somebody with your negative BS. It's so easy to type a few words and trash somebody on their own channel. Get a camera, do your own video, on your channel, presenting your opinion, and proof (if you have it) of how your way is better.
Yeah, especially if it's not simply adding a different trick & leaving it at that. I ask questions or leave suggestions, but I don't go calling people all kinds of things (unless they call me some stuff first). I think it has to do with arrogance (there's even a book called The Narcissism Epidemic that touches on this). They excite some sense of being better by acting like nothing is good enough for them or just feel like agreement is defeat & approval would be regarded as a damage. When someone brings this up, they flip a U-turn in some way & it seems to mostly be them paying the cost of doing business. Sure, somoene can have an issue with one thing, but not another- but you get what I mean & what they probably won't admit.
I know you say we should not pick just one person as a role model, but you are hard to beat. I really learn a lot from your videos. I hope to take some of your classes next year. I live in Alaska, so getting there is half the journey. Keep up the great work!
Mr. Canterbury...BRILLIANT...pat the creator of THESE on the back and thank you for showing and having the intellect to offer them. I'm not a worker of wood...i craft leather so in a survival situation, these may save my life. I'm not a hunter and while i understand the need for meat i would be reduced to eating what i can catch with a fishing pole until now..thanks again for the video :-)
Thank you for reviewing that tool, ive never really played with the dead fall trap and this is an excelent starter for me to at least get the general concept of it. Thanks again and God bless
Good looking product. Great review Dave. Time saver that's for sure. I always enjoy your videos, always learn something from watching your channel. So thank you for taking time a way from your family to shoot great videos. Ronnie,Texas
Something like this looks to be even "tom-proof!" Those of us that didn't grow up trapping and have no trapping experience can certainly appreciate a design like this because success is built into the design (assuming we set up on active game runs). Thanks a ton for sharing this, Dave!!!
I definitely like the idea of this. Trapping is a skill that I haven't worked on and this would be perfect to have in the meantime while I can learn more on that subject. Thanks dave, I learn so much from this channel and I am very grateful for you taking time to do these videos
David, thank you for all you do for your viewer's,I really appreciate the effort for the information,someday live's might be saved,who know's--great trapping option!! thank's again E.L.
That's a great idea, for many reasons. If you found yourself lost by yourself, the carving time (and skill required) saved would make this hugely handy.
I was thinking that if you are going to have bait lashed to the device, you might want to have a way to anchor it so another animal doesn't drag the baited DF4 off. A simple hole drilled in it would work.
Great for my SHTF pack. When you are not able to go to the store for fresh meat. Just wander to the woods. Save my 22 shells for bigger game. Great find.
Are there any close up pictures of the hooking-mechanism available? I mean the portion of the trigger where the bait-bar meets the load-bar, it looks like the latter has a little "peg" going out the side which fits into the notch in the bait-bar?
Hey Dave, I was wondering what you use for deadfalls whenever their arent any rocks around? Or if you dont have a saw or an axe. Could you make a video?
great video Dave please keep making the videos i live in Ohio and i love to hunt fish trap bush craft and these really help. p.s. its pretty cold in good old ohio
It seems to me the trigger having to be pushed down is a significant disadvantage to my carved triggers which release from both sides. Seems like a good trigger for those with lesser experience.
Always somebody with a negative comment. Haters gonna Hate Dave, which by now you know as well as I do!! Godbless you, your business and family. Take care brother.
+wildernessoutfitters Completely unrelated but currently reading Woodcraft and Camping and was wondering if you have ever made the Shanty Tent he describes. Would love to see a video on that!
For this size of game we're talking about, I believe the common man rat trap is just as effective. However, if this can be used as a trigger for a larger trap for more large game.... I'm all ears!
***** Dave, I love all of the work you do and the free information you put out to the public. What is the recommended and max weights for the deadfall? Have you ever heard or seen these bend when the trap is sprung? I'm guessing it can't 100% of the time get out of the way of the deadfall
I like that... Yea it's not traditional.. But.. In a survival situation those would be a handy to have in a kit. It allows you to me more efficient and saves times.. In a survival situation. Time and energy is key to save.. This saves allot of time and energy.. I want a set
So Dave, will this increase the 10 c's to the 12 c's of survivability? With the addition being "Critter Catchers" (being the DF4) and, the "Critter catcher cables" (snares)? Just a humorous question bud. Great looking product thanks for sharing.
Howdy Dave. I like the idea of how light and compact these triggers are. But I wonder as far a reliability and versatility in the size of game you can trap, how they compare to simple rat traps.
Dave, I see a problem with that trap. It is not like the regular figure four in that the animal has to push down. It has been my experience that when an animal bites on to something it pulls towards its body, not down. So, my question is, have you field tested this thing? The set up is quick, but I have doubts about its effectiveness due to the design only letting itself be triggered in downward motion. Surely, any animal fiddling with the bait will eventually push down but field tests will be nice to see. Thanks
I love that, be great for my bug out bag or just in my truck in a survival pack. I think you will sell allot of those. Are you going to include some snares in the package. great idem. thanks Dave.
Is that log heavy enough to kill game? I tried rat traps for squirrels and they simply got hit by the trap and ran off so I know game animals are tough.
Nice idea but have you put it to the test? It would be fantastic if you could sit up five of these traps and come back several hours later. If you'll be willing to do this I'll be in line to purchase 5 of them. Thank you
Even though I used to have a large trap line, I don't know enough about dead fall trapping to have an opinion. From reading some of the comments posted already, neither did those who posted some silly remarks. Sorry you have to put up with them.
***** Just watched your video on the DF4 trap trigger. If you add a small notch on the inside of the fulcrum bar just above the trigger catch you can use this with a spring snare. Just use a loop in the snare line in place of the usal toggle when the fulcrum moves up the loop slips off nicely ·
Looks like a decent piece of kit to have, what is the price point? Is it legal to carry them in your pack in Ohio? Is it legal to use them in Ohio? Sure would like to put a few of these around the farm / feed barn. Rat traps just seem to break in cold weather.
Since that is what it is, can anyone recommend a better primary use for this, so I have something to tell the DNR officer if he catches me with one in my pack? Not trying to be a jerk here, I'm serious. I want 5 of these things, but where I live, deadfall trapping is flat out illegal. If its "pre-made" it shows intent. I understand that it is for emergency survival, but I still have to have it in my possession. In what states is dead fall trapping legal?
Jamie Hitt It looks pretty easy to DIY. You could prob make one that would clip together, rather than be permanently fastened. Maybe some good quality snaps? I would suspect that they would hold well enough, and they would pivot easily as well.
The DNR has no authority whatsoever to even look through your pack. I think the purpose of these are for real survival situations. If you're out and NEED to get some food, at which point, it isn't illegal. And to be honest, when it really comes down to it, common law states that everyone has the basic human right to catch food in all of it's forms for the purpose of feeding ones self.
Daroff Not only do I agree with you, I do so whole heartedly. But, that being said, you are describing my defense in court, not a principle that will prevent me from getting in trouble in the first place. Taking game out of season is poaching. The prosecution could argue that I willfully and knowingly was prepared to do so. And furthermore, anyone that skilled and prepared was planning on obtaining such needed food illegally, rather than bringing the needed amount of food with them. I would have displayed intent long before the survival situation occurred. And Heaven forbid if exhibit "A" was 5 devices who's sole purpose was to set deadfall traps that are illegal both in and out of season. And if the right to feed one's self worked in court, nobody in WV would need to follow any laws regarding poaching, game seasons, or your neighbors beef cattle. The DNR here can do just about anything they want to, my friend, and defending yourself in court can get very, very expensive. They would twist it however they needed to in order to win the case. I would be better off to plead guilty, lose my personal property, pay the fines, take the hits on my hunting license, and be thankful I was rescued. On a lighter note, none of this changes the fact that those are still excellent, light weight trap triggers that would definitely increase your odds of staying alive in a survival situation. I still want my 5, risk be damned.
tell them its a tripod or 5 pod in your case for cooking some how get 3 to stand with another on top ,,or punch the rivets out and use little bolts so you can have it in pieces in the bag, say its a grill and some ground stakes
I have to ask about the legality of even CARRYING these. Primitive trapping is illegal, right? is it not considered a primitive trap because it is a modern fabrication?
Jamie Hitt You could not get in trouble unless they were set and there was a dead animal in one brother, that is like saying you cant carry bow in the woods if it's not archery season?
***** Actually, ...lol...that is illegal in WV. Under the "it is illegal to:" in the WVDNR Hunting and Trapping Regulations. Page 5. have a bow in the woods during closed seasons on game animals and non-migratory game birds.
Awesome! These are going into my pack! Been watching your videos for sometime and haven't been able to support your channel until yesterday because I never had a UA-cam account, so I made one to do just that! Amazing information. Easy to understand, plain and simple and straight to the point every time! Love'em! Appreciate all the videos. BIG THANKS!
Dave, I don't know how you do it man. Regardless of what you make a video on, within an hour or two, the Jesus Christ of bushcrafters has blessed you with a comment in which he explains how what you're doing is stupid and that he could do it better and faster. Half the time his/her comment also makes it apparent that they didn't even pay attention to what you were actually saying. Please keep in mind, most of these folks couldn't set up a mouse trap, much less a primitive in hopes of catching game. Anyway, I just find it amusing that you've been so successful, yet so many apparently know so much more. Lol. The internet, it truly is the domain of know-it-all tough guys.
You NAILED it Ben C. If I don't agree with something on YT I just move on. Why do people waist their time touting how much they know and tell somebody on their own channel how wrong they are when it is just an opinion. If you want to carve the triggers then do it, if you see the benefit in having them in your pack then buy'em. But why drag down somebody with your negative BS. It's so easy to type a few words and trash somebody on their own channel. Get a camera, do your own video, on your channel, presenting your opinion, and proof (if you have it) of how your way is better.
Yeah, especially if it's not simply adding a different trick & leaving it at that. I ask questions or leave suggestions, but I don't go calling people all kinds of things (unless they call me some stuff first). I think it has to do with arrogance (there's even a book called The Narcissism Epidemic that touches on this). They excite some sense of being better by acting like nothing is good enough for them or just feel like agreement is defeat & approval would be regarded as a damage. When someone brings this up, they flip a U-turn in some way & it seems to mostly be them paying the cost of doing business. Sure, somoene can have an issue with one thing, but not another- but you get what I mean & what they probably won't admit.
I know you say we should not pick just one person as a role model, but you are hard to beat. I really learn a lot from your videos. I hope to take some of your classes next year. I live in Alaska, so getting there is half the journey. Keep up the great work!
Mr. Canterbury...BRILLIANT...pat the creator of THESE on the back and thank you for showing and having the intellect to offer them. I'm not a worker of wood...i craft leather so in a survival situation, these may save my life. I'm not a hunter and while i understand the need for meat i would be reduced to eating what i can catch with a fishing pole until now..thanks again for the video :-)
Thank you for reviewing that tool, ive never really played with the dead fall trap and this is an excelent starter for me to at least get the general concept of it. Thanks again and God bless
Good looking product. Great review Dave. Time saver that's for sure. I always enjoy your videos, always learn something from watching your channel. So thank you for taking time a way from your family to shoot great videos. Ronnie,Texas
Something like this looks to be even "tom-proof!" Those of us that didn't grow up trapping and have no trapping experience can certainly appreciate a design like this because success is built into the design (assuming we set up on active game runs). Thanks a ton for sharing this, Dave!!!
That is one cool trap! It does take some time and skill to make deadfall traps that will get meat on the table for sure! Great video!
Abrahm
I definitely like the idea of this. Trapping is a skill that I haven't worked on and this would be perfect to have in the meantime while I can learn more on that subject. Thanks dave, I learn so much from this channel and I am very grateful for you taking time to do these videos
Hmm. I work for a metal fabrication company. I could build something similar in about 10 minutes... Thanks David!
Thanks for the great review Dave.
David, thank you for all you do for your viewer's,I really appreciate the effort for the information,someday live's might be saved,who know's--great trapping option!! thank's again E.L.
Great video Dave,thanks.
That's a great idea, for many reasons. If you found yourself lost by yourself, the carving time (and skill required) saved would make this hugely handy.
You could probably break one of those down to make an improvised fish/frog spear with that barb on the end.
Very cool tool Dave... I'll be ordering a couple asap! :-)
Those look like a terrific emergency addition to the kit.
Nice product! I'll definitely be picking some up.
Thanks Dave!
Nice video Dave
awesome time saver , compact , sensitive , looks like an excellent product =)
had a chance to meet the guy who makes these twice, really cool guy and a awesome trap idea, he actually fairly close to me
Very cool concept gonna have to get a set
I was thinking that if you are going to have bait lashed to the device, you might want to have a way to anchor it so another animal doesn't drag the baited DF4 off. A simple hole drilled in it would work.
Great Demo! I'd like to get that package of 5 you were showing…once again, Less is More….
Cool! Gives me an idea to try for used dull hacksaw blades.
Thanks
Great stuff man ! Native cultures depended greatly on small game for survival when big game wasn't available !
looks like it would be useful to have, like you mentioned, in the truck, boat, ext.
Thanks for your candor Dave. Your dog is awesome also---
This is one of those "Why didn't I think of that!" moments.
Great for my SHTF pack. When you are not able to go to the store for fresh meat. Just wander to the woods. Save my 22 shells for bigger game. Great find.
That case would be nice to put a new sealed pack of beef jerky into also so you have bait always at hand if needed too.
Are there any close up pictures of the hooking-mechanism available? I mean the portion of the trigger where the bait-bar meets the load-bar, it looks like the latter has a little "peg" going out the side which fits into the notch in the bait-bar?
Hey Dave, I was wondering what you use for deadfalls whenever their arent any rocks around? Or if you dont have a saw or an axe. Could you make a video?
i think they would be a nice addition to pack as a emergency way of getting food. atb John
Thank you for the video
Dave, I would like to see many more videos on how to make better light and heavy trap systems made only with sticks, twine and a knife.
great video Dave please keep making the videos i live in Ohio and i love to hunt fish trap bush craft and these really help. p.s. its pretty cold in good old ohio
Hey dave, you think one of thoes could be modified for use as a figure 4 spring snare trigger?
Great tools.
It seems to me the trigger having to be pushed down is a significant disadvantage to my carved triggers which release from both sides. Seems like a good trigger for those with lesser experience.
Always somebody with a negative comment. Haters gonna Hate Dave, which by now you know as well as I do!! Godbless you, your business and family. Take care brother.
I like it very effective and compact.
I'm sold on those!
Mr. Canterbury, would these be legal to use while a wooden one is not? Thank you and God Bless.
Do you got any of them that are taller that could be used on people
+wildernessoutfitters Completely unrelated but currently reading Woodcraft and Camping and was wondering if you have ever made the Shanty Tent he describes. Would love to see a video on that!
For this size of game we're talking about, I believe the common man rat trap is just as effective. However, if this can be used as a trigger for a larger trap for more large game.... I'm all ears!
*****
Dave, I love all of the work you do and the free information you put out to the public. What is the recommended and max weights for the deadfall? Have you ever heard or seen these bend when the trap is sprung? I'm guessing it can't 100% of the time get out of the way of the deadfall
That's an interesting product. What would the advantage of this be over carrying large rat traps?
I like that... Yea it's not traditional.. But.. In a survival situation those would be a handy to have in a kit. It allows you to me more efficient and saves times.. In a survival situation. Time and energy is key to save.. This saves allot of time and energy.. I want a set
Great!
So Dave, will this increase the 10 c's to the 12 c's of survivability? With the addition being "Critter Catchers" (being the DF4) and, the "Critter catcher cables" (snares)? Just a humorous question bud. Great looking product thanks for sharing.
I think something like that would be a good addition to a bush pilot's ditch kit.
Thank you for your time.
EagleScout_2002
those are interesting mittens what are they?
Howdy Dave. I like the idea of how light and compact these triggers are. But I wonder as far a reliability and versatility in the size of game you can trap, how they compare to simple rat traps.
Dave, I see a problem with that trap. It is not like the regular figure four in that the animal has to push down. It has been my experience that when an animal bites on to something it pulls towards its body, not down. So, my question is, have you field tested this thing? The set up is quick, but I have doubts about its effectiveness due to the design only letting itself be triggered in downward motion. Surely, any animal fiddling with the bait will eventually push down but field tests will be nice to see. Thanks
I love that, be great for my bug out bag or just in my truck in a survival pack. I think you will sell allot of those. Are you going to include some snares in the package. great idem. thanks Dave.
instant setup hhmmmmm well worth the weight . You can set up 5 dead falls fast and focus on other task
I like that. Its definitely on the list..
Is that log heavy enough to kill game? I tried rat traps for squirrels and they simply got hit by the trap and ran off so I know game animals are tough.
Carry 3 or 4 of them and you could have a nice food source on hand in a pinch.
Nice idea but have you put it to the test? It would be fantastic if you could sit up five of these traps and come back several hours later. If you'll be willing to do this I'll be in line to purchase 5 of them. Thank you
Even though I used to have a large trap line, I don't know enough about dead fall trapping to have an opinion. From reading some of the comments posted already, neither did those who posted some silly remarks. Sorry you have to put up with them.
a very intelligent idea. what is the max suggested weight these will hold?
30#
*****
Just watched your video on the DF4 trap trigger. If you add a small notch on the inside of the fulcrum bar just above the trigger catch you can use this with a spring snare. Just use a loop in the snare line in place of the usal toggle when the fulcrum moves up the loop slips off nicely
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Just wondering about Mr Jim Kane, haven't seen him around in ages?
He has been busy working this past few months he will be around again in the spring
good looking deal
Aren't you the guy from dual survival
A new 'trapping kit' in your store, with 5 of these and 5 snares would be great. hint hint
nice
Looks good, but the bait stick could have been longer.
Looks like a decent piece of kit to have, what is the price point? Is it legal to carry them in your pack in Ohio? Is it legal to use them in Ohio? Sure would like to put a few of these around the farm / feed barn. Rat traps just seem to break in cold weather.
daar is over nagedacht woepie!!
5 conibears
Since that is what it is, can anyone recommend a better primary use for this, so I have something to tell the DNR officer if he catches me with one in my pack? Not trying to be a jerk here, I'm serious. I want 5 of these things, but where I live, deadfall trapping is flat out illegal. If its "pre-made" it shows intent. I understand that it is for emergency survival, but I still have to have it in my possession. In what states is dead fall trapping legal?
As long as it is not set up it is not illegal
Jamie Hitt It looks pretty easy to DIY. You could prob make one that would clip together, rather than be permanently fastened. Maybe some good quality snaps? I would suspect that they would hold well enough, and they would pivot easily as well.
The DNR has no authority whatsoever to even look through your pack. I think the purpose of these are for real survival situations. If you're out and NEED to get some food, at which point, it isn't illegal. And to be honest, when it really comes down to it, common law states that everyone has the basic human right to catch food in all of it's forms for the purpose of feeding ones self.
Daroff Not only do I agree with you, I do so whole heartedly. But, that being said, you are describing my defense in court, not a principle that will prevent me from getting in trouble in the first place. Taking game out of season is poaching. The prosecution could argue that I willfully and knowingly was prepared to do so. And furthermore, anyone that skilled and prepared was planning on obtaining such needed food illegally, rather than bringing the needed amount of food with them. I would have displayed intent long before the survival situation occurred. And Heaven forbid if exhibit "A" was 5 devices who's sole purpose was to set deadfall traps that are illegal both in and out of season. And if the right to feed one's self worked in court, nobody in WV would need to follow any laws regarding poaching, game seasons, or your neighbors beef cattle. The DNR here can do just about anything they want to, my friend, and defending yourself in court can get very, very expensive. They would twist it however they needed to in order to win the case. I would be better off to plead guilty, lose my personal property, pay the fines, take the hits on my hunting license, and be thankful I was rescued. On a lighter note, none of this changes the fact that those are still excellent, light weight trap triggers that would definitely increase your odds of staying alive in a survival situation. I still want my 5, risk be damned.
tell them its a tripod or 5 pod in your case for cooking some how get 3 to stand with another on top ,,or punch the rivets out and use little bolts so you can have it in pieces in the bag, say its a grill and some ground stakes
I have to ask about the legality of even CARRYING these. Primitive trapping is illegal, right? is it not considered a primitive trap because it is a modern fabrication?
Actually Primitive trapping is NOT illegal in many states to begin with and snaring is legal in most-
ah, ok. I have heard over and over again in trap making videos that it was illegal to use them, so i just wanted to clarify.
Deadfall trapping is illegal in my state and many more. I wouldn't want to get caught with a "pre-made" item for deadfalls.
Jamie Hitt You could not get in trouble unless they were set and there was a dead animal in one brother, that is like saying you cant carry bow in the woods if it's not archery season?
***** Actually, ...lol...that is illegal in WV. Under the "it is illegal to:" in the WVDNR Hunting and Trapping Regulations. Page 5.
have a bow in the woods during closed seasons on game
animals and non-migratory game birds.