Hey Flats, just wanted to say thank you so much for starting to stream to UA-cam! been enjoying the World Cup streams a lot after a long day. keep it up! ❤
But say that comment again.... A tank should welcome a close distance fight against a support. A brig has Dva in her face but yet the DVA is supposed to be the scared one? That makes 0 sense.@@t1h_tvj212
@@EclipsedSoul4774 I definitely am and I have no shame in admitting I am not at that level. But God it feels like they don't even try most times. I don't want to have to sweat to try and win and I don't want to play with people who don't care at all and just do their own thing.
@@SageOfLimitlessHands yeah unfortunately I feel like you HAVE to try hard to get anywhere with shitty teams. And then once you do hit Masters or higher you have to still try hard anyways because everyone's a sweat in higher ranks. It just won't be as stressful because you'll actually have teammates that know what's going on but believe me you still can't just " chill " and expect an easy game unfortunately. OW has always been pretty competitive even in quickplay
@@EclipsedSoul4774 I will say with the change to rules on leaving a match early I feel less bad about doing so when I don't feel like getting steamrolled for two minutes because my uncoordinated team just runs at coordinated enemy fire. I don't care about losing so long as the game is fun.
@@JohnSmith-fo5cx I never said it didn't. After all we have found historical records dating back hundreds of years from some greek guy i forget. Which when translated apparently read something like "And if the fool wishes not to heed me. He may kneel before me and..." i forgot the rest. Shutup i hate history
6v6 hater flats proof smh. Really fun video watching you and Samito with BP jokes. Always fun watching streamers play against each other and have fun (ignoring how little impact tank can have now).
Nah dude I literally tell Hog players these days to stop wasting my suzu. If every Suzu has to be used to cleanse anti nade on a Hog you're in a losing situation.
15 minutes into the game she was 13-16 with 4.7k. Then, 2m40 seconds later, they had done only 800 more damage (they're at 5.5k, not 5.3k). Even accounting for crossover time, etc., they did like 325 damage/min for 17 minutes+.
I don't understand how he keeps messing up the Rein charge. You press it once to start, you press it again to stop. It's always been "press to go" they added "press again to stop". was he always holding the key for the duration for some reason?
@@deankyle22 but the original setup is still there, I still use it. why would you voluntarily change it, then stick with it even though it keeps messing you up? Lol
You are misunderstanding. He would hold left click while charging to swing as fast as he possibly could out of charge but now it cancels charge as well as the shift
I know what the Overwatch community says about Samito, but i genuinely respect him. He has a lot of passion towards the game and passion makes you emotional, he says what he's thinking 24/7 and has a pretty good head "most of the time" and has good takes with a massive amount of knowledge of the game. When Samito is laughing and having fun on stream you know overwatch is in a better spot...
@@dumberoni1023Sam? Hes rank 1 combined every season lmao. Also that Eichenwalde lobby had King. Pretty high rated lobby imo. Its not crazy to say tank is absolutely useless rn and basically 0 impact other than meta.
Mauga feels more vulnerable than hog tbh. No vape, just as big of a hitbox and using his charge reposition feels weird when it is obviously made for initiating. He can MELT people if he can close the distance and not get exploded himself
It was pretty clear in the video he posted after acquiring Mineplex that he wasn't quitting the game outright. He just put Streaming OW down on his list of priorities
I mean supports got a slap on the wrist cooldowns were increased but the innate power of abilities were untouched except zen which was actually a decent change. Pylon should either have healing reduced or be like syms TP where after a certain amount of time it destroys so you can't just leave it in a impossible to reach pillar at the top of the map. Or limit the amount of heals each pylon can give put it on a resource
He never said he was quitting, he said it wasn’t going to be his main focus. Ntm he didn’t play for over 2 months. Learn to pay attention instead of just reading the title of a video.
I don't know how to take Samito I just find him too toxic to others.Must admit though there's not many better at Doomfist than him.He single handed destroyed Emonng and his team with Doom the other day!
he's just passionate. He feels strongly about the game and wants to see it succeed. I honestly think he has a TON of really good points, as he advocates for a fair skill to reward curve. Not many people believe in that, as their idea of balance is for every character to be as strong as eachother
Its so sad that now Tanks and Supports have to rely on their DPS players to do their job cus they cant do shit themselves anymore. Its so annoying. All roles should be as useful as each other. Its not the case in OW2 though.
fuck it, i'm throwing my hat into the ow2 balance discussion ring kiriko: slightly increase healing, cleanse no longer grants invulnerability, swift step cooldown slightly increased baptiste: immortality field lasts for 1.5-2 seconds and cannot be destroyed mercy: damage that removes 50% of your current health or more interrupts resurrect illari: remove her m2 heal, getting a kill slightly increases healing pylon power momentarily doomfist: moderately decrease ultimate point cost for meteor strike orisa: fortify reduces damage by 35% and does not negate headshots junker queen: slightly increase throwing blade damage, moderately increase carnage cooldown duration but decrease it by 1 second for every 50 bleed damage dealt reinhardt: increase firestrike damage to 100, add 50 armor roadhog (slightly complicated but ill try to explain it best i can): take a breather restores full health, moderately increase cooldown and lower healing buff duration by .5 seconds, hooked enemies can be turned by a full 180 degrees rather than 90, meleeing hooked enemies knocks them back like a zenyatta kick but not if you've already shot them post-hook (so basically, after hooking an enemy, you can turn and then knock them into your team to finish them off, or straight up shoot them for more burst damage but you're unable to knockback with melee afterwards) bastion: reduce health to 200, 150-50 health and armor split, turret form has a team colored laser to show where you're aiming, turret cooldown slightly increased, ironclad grants 40% damage resistance cassidy: magnetic grenade no longer hinders and deals 120 (10 on stick and 110 on explosion) echo: revert her ult charge changes halfway, so like a middleground between pre and post nerf ult charge sombra: moderately increasse translocator cooldown lmk how yall feel about this, not entirely sure how this would work in practice but i think i cooked here
@@blancange1872 im sorry but theres no reason a support should deal bigh damage at all ranges, have incredibly fast healing alongside an automatic healing turret, mobility, AND a powerful offensive ult
@@kathuzada41 thats why ironclad and armor exists, and why his crit in turret form is behind him. if he catches someone out of position in turret they're dead to rights, but once that turret runs out hes vulnerable.
I love the thing now that you know what's about to go down when he says "You guys are gonna have to trust me on this one."
It’s like he’s putting on a mask as he’s doing it
That was a mouth full
Am I having a stroke?
BP has *INCREDIBLE* comedic timing. He's so consistent too.
Great thumbnail. I watched this live and Sam's reaction was the same as Flats's but with 1000x more emotion lmao
so you could even say it was
different?
@@Sandvichman. Yes, one could say that
😂
That’s just Sam for you. 😂 He’s fun too watch, just don’t let his emotional outbursts make you hate him.
@@connorkane1542 That's what I love about him, even if I don't agree with many of his takes lol
That transition at 8:37 tho 🔥
"Still waiting on EMP, URGGGHHH!" LoL @ 18:55
love how flats doing "nothing" is still ten times more effective than the chaotic button mashing of metal rank tanks lmao
Hey Flats, just wanted to say thank you so much for starting to stream to UA-cam! been enjoying the World Cup streams a lot after a long day. keep it up! ❤
Sam's rien is the textbook definition of "Getting creative"
16:25 that transition is clean, nice editing
can we talk about that silky smooth transition at 8:37 GODDAMN
12:21 You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain...welcome to the HogLife.
I like the choice of persona 3 music for the junkertown fight. Paulownia mall ost slaps hard!!!
The fact that the brig on junkertown just casually 1v1d a dva and never went below half just kinda shows how wild brigs design is.
well the dva had to contest cart so she was forced to be in range of the brig
But say that comment again.... A tank should welcome a close distance fight against a support. A brig has Dva in her face but yet the DVA is supposed to be the scared one? That makes 0 sense.@@t1h_tvj212
It's insane watching flats have teammates that work together instead of the ones I get
Well if you're below Masters you can always bet on your teammates being ass
@@EclipsedSoul4774 I definitely am and I have no shame in admitting I am not at that level. But God it feels like they don't even try most times. I don't want to have to sweat to try and win and I don't want to play with people who don't care at all and just do their own thing.
@@SageOfLimitlessHands yeah unfortunately I feel like you HAVE to try hard to get anywhere with shitty teams. And then once you do hit Masters or higher you have to still try hard anyways because everyone's a sweat in higher ranks. It just won't be as stressful because you'll actually have teammates that know what's going on but believe me you still can't just " chill " and expect an easy game unfortunately. OW has always been pretty competitive even in quickplay
@@EclipsedSoul4774 I will say with the change to rules on leaving a match early I feel less bad about doing so when I don't feel like getting steamrolled for two minutes because my uncoordinated team just runs at coordinated enemy fire. I don't care about losing so long as the game is fun.
Bro I feel that way. Sometimes I do so much more when I just stand on a corner and hold shield and just don't die.
That hook at the end pulled sam from the moon😂
7:45 LMAO tank trying to 1v1 a support XDXD lol lolol silly XD LMFAO
Sam getting some interesting supports
the persona 3 music in the background>>>
Honestly more chill than half of the qp games these days idk why qp is getting so sweaty
I don't condone Tbagging. But Getting sent off a cliff by your own main was a moment worthy of the quick bag. I'm sorry 😂
Tbagging is great....it's the oldschool way to game.
@@JohnSmith-fo5cx Tbagging is just the Emote version of "Deez nuts". 🤣
@@armadyleanarchon4754 lol...predates it by years though.
@@JohnSmith-fo5cx I never said it didn't. After all we have found historical records dating back hundreds of years from some greek guy i forget. Which when translated apparently read something like "And if the fool wishes not to heed me. He may kneel before me and..." i forgot the rest.
Shutup i hate history
people need to stop getting offended by t bagging bro its a tradition older than most overwatch players
Tank vs the whole world
Is that Master Chief narrating the whispers!?
1:03 went to the moon lool
Now imagine if we had two tanks and this could have been Flats and Emong versus Sam and Nateson
did anyone notice this smooth transition at 16:22?
FLATS NEW HERO PLAYABLE
gr
When bring's wipshot makes more space than tanks.
5:22 now i gotta know what was censored in chat
It was at the end of the match, I’m assuming 2 slurs and a yo mama joke.
@@_bizmo_fungus_894 fair assumption
6v6 hater flats proof smh.
Really fun video watching you and Samito with BP jokes. Always fun watching streamers play against each other and have fun (ignoring how little impact tank can have now).
Flats : *gets shot by Echo nades, Zaria beam, Soldier, Moira orb and Moira*
Flats: "I got INSTANTLY deleted what was I supposed to do?!?"
Shouldn’t have gotten hit, simple as. Get good.
Started watching 22 minutes ago just realized it came out 5 minutes before I started watching damm is this what it’s like to be early
your hog hooks are crazy lol poor sam
Honestly Hog is fun again. Not the best tank for every situation but still fun.
As long as the enemy doesn’t have an ana you have a chance
@@asonofliberty3662that's why you have a Kiri to cleanse you on cool down
@@AngrySecs
Ana can just wait for suzu first then anti after.
@@davidnewhart2533 Kiri can just wait for anti and cleanse, it works both ways.
Nah dude I literally tell Hog players these days to stop wasting my suzu. If every Suzu has to be used to cleanse anti nade on a Hog you're in a losing situation.
Hang on a minute. We need to spectate the widow at 14:37. How you have 5.3k damage and 16-18 in 3 rounds so far😭
15 minutes into the game she was 13-16 with 4.7k. Then, 2m40 seconds later, they had done only 800 more damage (they're at 5.5k, not 5.3k).
Even accounting for crossover time, etc., they did like 325 damage/min for 17 minutes+.
As someone who is a Samito and flats consumer I loved this video
I'll always stay on the Rein council 💪 15:40
the good ole tank swap
Bro found a new nemesis
Alternative Video title when the enemy tank is actually playing like a T500 unlike me
are you ready for blizzconnnnn
BRO, the bastion echo copy ulting is TERRIFYING
What happens to the bubble that is coming off cooldown at 9:44
what playing hog does to a mans rein skills
Samito is such a whiny baby, I thought he quit OW already?
which action button is on his left click?
I don't understand how he keeps messing up the Rein charge. You press it once to start, you press it again to stop.
It's always been "press to go" they added "press again to stop". was he always holding the key for the duration for some reason?
They changed it so it can also be canceled by clicking left click
@@deankyle22 but the original setup is still there, I still use it. why would you voluntarily change it, then stick with it even though it keeps messing you up? Lol
You are misunderstanding. He would hold left click while charging to swing as fast as he possibly could out of charge but now it cancels charge as well as the shift
According to blizzard flats best hero is orisa not rien
When pac said 6v6 will come back if Sam wins I instantly started rooting for Sam
These feel engineered by Bp
They really need to rework or buff Dooms ult. Even a GM tank player can’t make it have an impact.
bro rein needs some help omg he just explodes. maybe 650 total HP and give him more armor? just for slightly more survivability.
I know what the Overwatch community says about Samito, but i genuinely respect him. He has a lot of passion towards the game and passion makes you emotional, he says what he's thinking 24/7 and has a pretty good head "most of the time" and has good takes with a massive amount of knowledge of the game. When Samito is laughing and having fun on stream you know overwatch is in a better spot...
I wanna see sam pov
Doing nothing on rein and winning is so true
This is what happens when a Hog main plays Rein
W flat
love watching dva lose a 1v1 to brigitte lol
Why were you staring at brig for like a minute on 3rd point kings row mid fight ?
“0 impact is crazy” he literally pinned the enemy tank off the map like 3 times aka you, that’s a lot more impact then you had for your team
Either this a bad game for him or he getting easier games because no way is this mf a top 500 tank playing rein like that
@@dumberoni1023Sam? Hes rank 1 combined every season lmao. Also that Eichenwalde lobby had King. Pretty high rated lobby imo. Its not crazy to say tank is absolutely useless rn and basically 0 impact other than meta.
@@MohammedHassan-tv3vr no irl roadhog on the screen
that’s the whole point, he did all that but still lost the game so it had no impact on the result
And sam still managed to lose 🤔 so much impact!
dude Tank is so unplayable rn even playing Mauga, with all this healing and damage and cc you just cant Tank anymore
Mauga feels more vulnerable than hog tbh. No vape, just as big of a hitbox and using his charge reposition feels weird when it is obviously made for initiating. He can MELT people if he can close the distance and not get exploded himself
I thought samito quit ow and was working on a company
He bought mineplex but currently there's nothing for him to do so he's streaming OW to fill the gap
It was pretty clear in the video he posted after acquiring Mineplex that he wasn't quitting the game outright. He just put Streaming OW down on his list of priorities
He’s just not playing full time anymore
Shit talking the two time Nepal champion is crazy😭
I’ve been playing sigma and hog all season and climbed from silver to plat hog is strong
no offense but just because something is working in silver doesn't mean it's strong
@@lehocool7449 except I’m in Diamond now and my comment was saying I’m climbing so your point?
Silver lobbies do not feel all that different from diamond lobbies I just have to rely on teammates more for help but my gameplay has barely changed
@@chanceburk4852 you went from plat to diamond in 9 hours?
@@sammygreco yes it’s called winning more games than you lose by a wide margin
6v6>5v5
22:00 cancelled
So when everyone else single Ults it's the worst thing. But when Flats does it time and time again it's everyone else's fault......
Since when is solo ulting the worst thing?
I want 6v6 back
Samito
Yall need to play persona 3, you keep taking the music lmao
Tanks still have 0 impact after the patch?
I'd love to know too. Not sure if this video is from a pre-patch stream, so maybe it can be "outdated". I felt like tanks got a bit more impactful
@@Delbs1 Oh, its outdated as pylon is 125hp and bap has 200hp lamp.
I mean supports got a slap on the wrist cooldowns were increased but the innate power of abilities were untouched except zen which was actually a decent change. Pylon should either have healing reduced or be like syms TP where after a certain amount of time it destroys so you can't just leave it in a impossible to reach pillar at the top of the map. Or limit the amount of heals each pylon can give put it on a resource
@@sivath6836 Ooh I see! Great eye btw
Sam already back after "quitting" sad
He never said he was quitting, he said it wasn’t going to be his main focus. Ntm he didn’t play for over 2 months. Learn to pay attention instead of just reading the title of a video.
@Raid_3011 I recalled him saying he was done with it. I don't really follow him. Lol, really sensitive snowflake you are? 🤣
I don't know how to take Samito I just find him too toxic to others.Must admit though there's not many better at Doomfist than him.He single handed destroyed Emonng and his team with Doom the other day!
he's just passionate. He feels strongly about the game and wants to see it succeed. I honestly think he has a TON of really good points, as he advocates for a fair skill to reward curve. Not many people believe in that, as their idea of balance is for every character to be as strong as eachother
How do overwatch youtubers always look like Soyjacks or Chuds
Tanks still 100% at the mercy of their team to do literally anything.
A Tank, tanking? In OW?! MADNESS!!!
5v5 is better imo :)
jared needs to never play overwatch again, hes 21-19 D:
Its so sad that now Tanks and Supports have to rely on their DPS players to do their job cus they cant do shit themselves anymore. Its so annoying.
All roles should be as useful as each other. Its not the case in OW2 though.
Who let you out of the zoo
True. Im quitting as soon as they nerf all supports to only have a pistol like mercy does (I know the pistol damage, its an hyperbole)
???? support is still a really high impact role what are you smoking
@@fiona9891 I truly hope you will never have any friends if you talk to people this way, jesus christ.
@@thekrustymop Calling me an animal hm? Omg, who let YOU out of school???!?
That was some horrible counterwatch, shame on you.
97th
IM EARLY
Samito ❤️
fuck it, i'm throwing my hat into the ow2 balance discussion ring
kiriko: slightly increase healing, cleanse no longer grants invulnerability, swift step cooldown slightly increased
baptiste: immortality field lasts for 1.5-2 seconds and cannot be destroyed
mercy: damage that removes 50% of your current health or more interrupts resurrect
illari: remove her m2 heal, getting a kill slightly increases healing pylon power momentarily
doomfist: moderately decrease ultimate point cost for meteor strike
orisa: fortify reduces damage by 35% and does not negate headshots
junker queen: slightly increase throwing blade damage, moderately increase carnage cooldown duration but decrease it by 1 second for every 50 bleed damage dealt
reinhardt: increase firestrike damage to 100, add 50 armor
roadhog (slightly complicated but ill try to explain it best i can): take a breather restores full health, moderately increase cooldown and lower healing buff duration by .5 seconds, hooked enemies can be turned by a full 180 degrees rather than 90, meleeing hooked enemies knocks them back like a zenyatta kick but not if you've already shot them post-hook (so basically, after hooking an enemy, you can turn and then knock them into your team to finish them off, or straight up shoot them for more burst damage but you're unable to knockback with melee afterwards)
bastion: reduce health to 200, 150-50 health and armor split, turret form has a team colored laser to show where you're aiming, turret cooldown slightly increased, ironclad grants 40% damage resistance
cassidy: magnetic grenade no longer hinders and deals 120 (10 on stick and 110 on explosion)
echo: revert her ult charge changes halfway, so like a middleground between pre and post nerf ult charge
sombra: moderately increasse translocator cooldown
lmk how yall feel about this, not entirely sure how this would work in practice but i think i cooked here
Illari one is crazy
@@blancange1872 im sorry but theres no reason a support should deal bigh damage at all ranges, have incredibly fast healing alongside an automatic healing turret, mobility, AND a powerful offensive ult
200 hp bastion would fall over so fast. He has the biggest hitbox of any dps.
@@kathuzada41 thats why ironclad and armor exists, and why his crit in turret form is behind him. if he catches someone out of position in turret they're dead to rights, but once that turret runs out hes vulnerable.
I have never seen anyone burn down the kitchen as hard as you. I legit thought you were trolling until I saw you reply to some else