First Ride on 2005 Kawasaki KX250 Two Stroke!

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2022
  • When I found a mint condition, low hours 2005 Kawasaki KX250 two stroke I couldn't pass it up, so I bought it! This was my first ride on it... What an amazing bike! I definitely will keep this one forever. Hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching.
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    Bike in Video:
    2005 Kawasaki KX250 (2 Stroke)
    Location:
    Morgan's Corner Proving Grounds MX in NC
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  • @nickmartinsen8549
    @nickmartinsen8549 Рік тому +38

    I love how relatable you are. The wrecks are humbling, commenting on the size of the jumps and how scary they are, how sketchy the average rider gets, and how hyped you get when your really greasing stuff. Highlight of my day watching your videos. Keep it up man!

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +7

      Thanks for the kind words man I sincerely appreciate it 🙏🏼 I love making these videos and knowing that someone else enjoys them as much as I do really makes my day!

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Рік тому

      Wrong.
      You're entertained by other people's misfortune.
      This fool is most likely to crash and hurt himself cause the bike has had no tuning work done on it.

  • @MidWestMX
    @MidWestMX Рік тому +22

    Your riding has improved so much bro. Awesome stuff. Have fun with the new bike

  • @dimitrisdrouzas1679
    @dimitrisdrouzas1679 Рік тому +13

    Kx 250s are so underrated man

    • @mrjackish9923
      @mrjackish9923 Рік тому +2

      Sucks they’re so hard To find in Australia 😭

    • @dimitrisdrouzas1679
      @dimitrisdrouzas1679 Рік тому +2

      @@mrjackish9923 we have plenty of this in Greece

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +2

      It's honestly an amazing bike man. Sucks that the 3 Japanese brands don't make smokers anymore.

    • @dimitrisdrouzas1679
      @dimitrisdrouzas1679 Рік тому +2

      @@DerekHallman I had one of these beasts and it was lovely I highly recommend a pro circuit exhaust 🤩

  • @crosscam
    @crosscam Рік тому +2

    Your materials are so pure, I like it.
    Greetings from Poland !

  • @kellyallred657
    @kellyallred657 Рік тому +3

    Nice bike! Looking forward to more vids with this.

  • @coaltrainz6522
    @coaltrainz6522 Рік тому +8

    that bike is so clean!💚 In the sand section i thought u were gonna fall hard but u saved it!

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Almost went down hard 😬

    • @Motofumes159
      @Motofumes159 10 місяців тому

      @@DerekHallmansadly 4 Months later you did go down real hard :/

  • @bentauf227
    @bentauf227 Рік тому +1

    Bought my 05 back in may and the bike is so much fun. I’ve put way too much money into it now😂😂😂

  • @westonater
    @westonater Рік тому +8

    I’m so glad you got a 250 dude they are truly the best ride experience and this bike will be an enduro beast

  • @svitcelik
    @svitcelik Рік тому +1

    man you got the best videos keep it like that you got this

  • @TheV3tt
    @TheV3tt Рік тому +1

    Great upload derek, I really have enjoyed your content from the moment I saw your videos! keep it up! I love your commentary as I can also relate. also, 2 strokes dominate 💪

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      thanks for always watching and commenting Curtis!

  • @niconine268
    @niconine268 Місяць тому

    It is a beautiful bike. Thanks for the demo

  • @estudio87records
    @estudio87records 5 місяців тому

    Bro looks very fun at track this bike!!

  • @camarongibby
    @camarongibby Рік тому +2

    A dude on the right side at 1:50 disappeared lol

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +2

      I transitioned to a different clip and he vanished 😂

  • @jetkane6561
    @jetkane6561 Рік тому +3

    Great vids Derek keep up the good work

  • @freetaylor72
    @freetaylor72 Рік тому

    Great video, you could tell that bike was beast...unleash the animal!

  • @christophergrande223
    @christophergrande223 Рік тому +1

    Awesome bike bro!

  • @MC_795
    @MC_795 Рік тому +1

    Sweet bike man love the kawi two strokes

  • @kellybrown6988
    @kellybrown6988 Рік тому

    Score! Very clean!

  • @kkiely66
    @kkiely66 Рік тому +2

    Such a clean bike. Looking fast on that bad boy already

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      super clean! thank you buddy I felt at home on it instantly

  • @jaydalton
    @jaydalton Рік тому +3

    Bike sounds sick! Also glad you survived 4:25

  • @charlescoleman2288
    @charlescoleman2288 Рік тому

    Love the videos!

  • @mxoudi
    @mxoudi Рік тому

    SHEEE RRIIIIPS & is cleaner than I expected. Almost too good to be true 😭😭 SICK riding bro!

  • @tcrides2137
    @tcrides2137 Рік тому

    That is super clean man, I have a 2003. Never selling it 😆 I just need to get a new version so I can put the KX up

  • @kiwisteve1488
    @kiwisteve1488 Рік тому

    Hell yea! I had an 07 kx250, what a beautiful bike 🔥

  • @chloepaden9384
    @chloepaden9384 Рік тому +2

    I committed this a little while go but imma say it again I'd be really stoked to see ya get it to some racing cause I know you got the skill👊✊

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for watching the vids Chloe! I've really been considering trying some hare scrambles but I'm not sure about moto yet. What really sucks is the AMA won't let me run my GoPro during a race. I'd love to commentate the entire time I'm riding.

  • @ShiftGearsMoto
    @ShiftGearsMoto Рік тому +1

    Was waiting for this one! Sick bike.
    Those first few jumps you hit looked really steep.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +2

      Some of the jumps on this track are basically wall jumps because they become vertical haha. Thanks for watching bro!

    • @ShiftGearsMoto
      @ShiftGearsMoto Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman they looked so gnarly, but you ripped 'em on the 250. Looking forward to more of these videos!

  • @chasebenzing7824
    @chasebenzing7824 Рік тому +2

    Love the kx, I have a ktm 250 2 stroke of my own. It's awsome!! Hope you have fun with it.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      wicked man! you have the sx or xc bike?

  • @freeriiiiide
    @freeriiiiide Рік тому +1

    That slow mo of dropping the bike is what goes through everyones head dropping their new bike for the first time 🤣

  • @btimagng192
    @btimagng192 Рік тому

    Brooo that bike is SO sickk!!! Team Green! The newer KX front fender looks dope on it. All it needs is #259 decals 🤘🏼! Love your vids man.
    I live in the same city as you and I have a KX250 also but (F) '19. Bought it new but I don't get to ride often. Uncle Bob at CC Dirt Riders even gave me free lifetime membership for doing the Dirtbike Boot Camp video and yet, I STILL have only 24 hrs on it 🤦. My ground game is decent but I'm still learning how to jump properly, so I'm still goon status 😂

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Thanks bro I appreciate it!! Sounds like you need to get out and rip soon my man - fall is the best riding season 😁

  • @zardportugal
    @zardportugal Рік тому

    Beautiful bike!
    Congrats.

  • @Nene25
    @Nene25 Рік тому

    Amazing bike dude, enjoy it 👊✊✊

  • @EasyMoneyCrew
    @EasyMoneyCrew Рік тому

    i have a 2003 kx250 they are such fun bikes! yours looks sick

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Seriously a wicked good bike man thx for watching

  • @s.nitere3819
    @s.nitere3819 Рік тому

    Sooo happy that you bought a 2 stroke :)))

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Now I have two 2 strokes for the channel 😁

  • @nickp8373
    @nickp8373 Рік тому

    Awesome bro

  • @hudsonhueneke107
    @hudsonhueneke107 Рік тому

    I got a 2003 kx 125 and I love it

  • @alex-lo5mt
    @alex-lo5mt Рік тому

    Keep the good work up 😘

  • @pitbikecrazy125
    @pitbikecrazy125 Рік тому

    Bike is rad Derek, congrats!!!

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Thank you I'm stoked! Y'all riding yet or is the the KX still down?

    • @pitbikecrazy125
      @pitbikecrazy125 Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman you were already ripping on it too! Yes, finally haha just fixed it this past weekend! I’m sure we will be out and about next weekend somewhere- see ya soon!

  • @harryvalvlogz1381
    @harryvalvlogz1381 Рік тому

    Nice bike 👌

  • @djd6
    @djd6 Рік тому

    Congrats on the new dirt bike man!
    I know because I'm always so early it sounds like I'm a bot lol

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Thank you bro stoked to own one of these!

  • @212.4ever
    @212.4ever Рік тому

    Good vid man love you channel FIRST

  • @mikebrown41182
    @mikebrown41182 Рік тому

    The condition of this bike 05 is really good Derek!

  • @lexpolis5266
    @lexpolis5266 Рік тому

    Your channel made me into dirt bikes. Now i have a dirt bike myself

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      That's awesome buddy hope you're enjoying riding dirt bikes!

  • @obsessedwithcars219
    @obsessedwithcars219 Рік тому

    I have a built cr250 and a stock kx 250. I love Hondas but the kali has a way better powerband

  • @user-vs9xl7og5y
    @user-vs9xl7og5y 10 місяців тому

    to bad you got rid of your kx 250 it was my most fav bike to watch you ride.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  10 місяців тому

      Yeah I miss it some times, but the KX videos got terribly low views and after I had my bad crash I didn't want to ride it anymore. Bad memories.

  • @maxblatchford213
    @maxblatchford213 Рік тому +2

    Love the new bike as a fellow Kawasaki rider! Keep it up man, you’re doing great.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching the videos Max 🙏🏼

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Рік тому

      Wrong.
      These machines will kill you if you don't know what you're doing.

    • @maxblatchford213
      @maxblatchford213 Рік тому

      @@Gma7788 but he knows what he’s doing and so do i

  • @jonathandeemer257
    @jonathandeemer257 Рік тому +1

    Awesome Bike!

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      love it !

    • @jonathandeemer257
      @jonathandeemer257 Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman I had a 99 and a 2000 KX250. By far my favorite of all that I had. Makes me want to get back in it! Thanks for the awesome videos! Keep it up!

  • @jeffalleshouse9783
    @jeffalleshouse9783 Рік тому

    Hellyaaa dude two strooooke!!!

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Yewwwww another 2 smoker in the garage!!

  • @DimW1ts
    @DimW1ts Рік тому

    Where’d you get your plastics kit from and all your other parts?

  • @lundee3333
    @lundee3333 Рік тому

    nice bike

  • @MikesBikes66H
    @MikesBikes66H Рік тому

    That thing is crisp af

  • @tacuachecuuhh459
    @tacuachecuuhh459 Рік тому +1

    ♥️ kawasaki 🤤

  • @samcg8662
    @samcg8662 Рік тому

    Lets fucking goooo Derek 250 2 stroke are the best !!!! I’m existed to see new content on that bike !!!

  • @americandude3825
    @americandude3825 Рік тому

    That track looks amazing. Good ride. You must live near me or travel far to go between North Carolina and CCDR. Lol. I’ve got a place near RVA and Raleigh North Carolina

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      It's a wicked fun sand track! I live almost on the border between VA and NC

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman heck ya. Looks like it. I just bought my 2022 Toyota from classic Toyota in Henderson. I dealt with the general manager. Great guy.
      Capital power sports on wake forest had a couple used bikes in really interested in.

  • @abandzgames8215
    @abandzgames8215 Рік тому

    YESSIR

  • @leonardschonfeldt1724
    @leonardschonfeldt1724 Рік тому

    Awesome

  • @AmericanMadeAdventures
    @AmericanMadeAdventures Рік тому

    Congrats! I will be folllowing along as you make content on the KX250. I have one too :)

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching! What year KX do you have? It's an amazing bike

    • @AmericanMadeAdventures
      @AmericanMadeAdventures Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman Mine is a 2001. I got it a few months ago and started riding again on dirt trails. I am 50 - haven't ridden a dirt bike since I was 17 when I had an old 1979 YZ250. It's a lot of fun. Broke my ribs the first month and couldn't ride much but back on now and exploring often here in Colorado. I love the bike. It's not as brutally powerful as the old YZ, but plenty for an old man like me :)

  • @angelamartin3060
    @angelamartin3060 Рік тому +1

    What do you like better

  • @Drip2gamy114
    @Drip2gamy114 Рік тому

    Amazing video and I have a question do you have a Honda CRF 150

  • @estudio87records
    @estudio87records 5 місяців тому

    😍😍😍😍

  • @juliopereira8704
    @juliopereira8704 Рік тому

    Qué buena moto

  • @patrickmeyer9905
    @patrickmeyer9905 Рік тому

    Finally you got a 250! I remember when you first rode a 250 and said you were going to get one

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      I'm so stoked! I finally feel like my skill level can handle a 250 so I was ready to get one. Still have my 150 though :)

    • @patrickmeyer9905
      @patrickmeyer9905 Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman Right on man! It's always good to have small bike and a big bike. Both are fun in their own respects! Looking forward to seeing you giving that 250 hell brotha!

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      @@patrickmeyer9905 very true! Thanks for watching the vids Patrick I appreciate it!

  • @swallow6998
    @swallow6998 Рік тому

    U should go try out a track that I like it’s called vip motocross in rugby u will like it its. Really good

  • @wyattbrooks8327
    @wyattbrooks8327 Рік тому

    Yea u bought a nice bike

  • @kylekmm9288
    @kylekmm9288 Рік тому

    sick!! my dad has a kx250 and I have a kx250f

  • @Moto_Mullarkey
    @Moto_Mullarkey Рік тому

    Looking awesome out there D! Stoked for you and your new machine dude!

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Рік тому

      Well how about stop talking gossip and actually educate yourselves about the deadly bike.
      I saw 2 guys looking good at a motocross track, and now one of them is dead and the other must live with the consequences.
      The dead guy failed to make a double jump and so the bike crushed him to death.

    • @Moto_Mullarkey
      @Moto_Mullarkey Рік тому

      @@Gma7788 part of it my guy, you take the same risk when you get behind the wheel of a car every day. This ain't no different.

  • @Factory928AC
    @Factory928AC Рік тому

    What keys were you running here and elevation?!

  • @ErotmousErection
    @ErotmousErection 6 місяців тому

    Thats Badass....I had the '96 125.....

  • @mikebrown41182
    @mikebrown41182 Рік тому

    Also stic meteringblock in this one? That would be interesting.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      yes definitely going to test a STIC on this bike as well

  • @NiklasRuud
    @NiklasRuud Рік тому

    I’ve a 2020 YZ250 2S it’s a monster

  • @PazLeBon
    @PazLeBon Рік тому

    cool, love my smoker

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Nice man what do you have?

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman just a yamaha dt 125, great fun tho

  • @spacegrass2738
    @spacegrass2738 Рік тому

    How does it compare with the KTM 150sx you have? Big difference in power?

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      WAY more power. Night and day difference how fast this thing is.

  • @villearponen7521
    @villearponen7521 Рік тому

    What do you think about vibration of kx versus newer Austrians?

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      this bike definitely vibrates a bit more than the newer KTM/husky/gasgas bikes. I don't think about the vibration too much, but my hands definitely get worn out after a while of riding it.

  • @scottymcg559
    @scottymcg559 Рік тому

    Good riding man and what track is this can anyone sign up and ride? Thanks

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      thanks dude this track is called Morgan's Corner Proving Grounds in NC. Anyone can sign up to ride yep 🤙

  • @abandzgames8215
    @abandzgames8215 Рік тому

    So are you going to keep the KTM 150? And have both

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Yeah I still have my KTM150. Gonna make videos with both bikes :)

  • @CoolcatAMA-Pro
    @CoolcatAMA-Pro Рік тому

    Wow It doesn't look like the bike has ever been on a track if you don't mind me asking what did you pick it up for Im looking to pick one up in similar condition gradge ridden conditions

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      It's super clean man, I had to snag it! I paid $2.manydollars for it haha. Take one guess then I'll tell ya how much I actually spent.

    • @CoolcatAMA-Pro
      @CoolcatAMA-Pro Рік тому +1

      @@DerekHallman If you got it for less than 3K or even 4 you got a deal you see shops like Kaplan cycles who specializes in finding & restoring these old bikes to sell & for it's museum. They go upwards of what a new 4 stroke cost 10k in some cases even more. I suggest you check out Kaplan cycles UA-cam channel if you haven't already.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      @@CoolcatAMA-Pro I paid 4300 for it and it felt like a LOT for an old smoker, but I really wanted it. Considering how clean it is, how well it runs, and that I'll keep it forever, I don't think I paid too much 😁 I've seen a lot of Kaplan's videos they make me drool every time I see the bikes they have in inventory haha

  • @louiscaforio1376
    @louiscaforio1376 Рік тому

    Are you gonna do a little build out of this bike?

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Maybe slowly over time I will but I definitely want to keep the overall look OEM.

  • @jdatwood7086
    @jdatwood7086 Рік тому +1

    Damn that’s sounds good! Seems louder than mine, wonder if the muffler was modified or the packing is just worn out. I don’t have that much pitch from mine.

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Nah a bike with worn out packing will never sound good - it will sound very tinny, empty, and loud. From my experience, the sound of a bike mostly comes from which carb you have and the jetting you're running.

  • @haydenmazur1164
    @haydenmazur1164 Рік тому

    Did u sell the 150 sx

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      Nope I still have the 150. I'll make videos with both bikes now :)

  • @pickleskingdom6862
    @pickleskingdom6862 Рік тому

    Shes clean! You still gonna ride the 150, or is this just a new toy

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Yep I still have the 150 and will ride both in the videos. My goal is to start collecting bikes that I want to keep forever. This KX250 was #1 on my list, but there are a couple other Japanese 2 smokers on my list too 🤙

  • @zeearmotocross-supercross
    @zeearmotocross-supercross Рік тому

    😲😍

  • @nemaazary9057
    @nemaazary9057 Рік тому

    I don't wanna be rude I'm just so eager to know how much did it cost. I just wanna compare it with my country. If it's OK,lemme know the cost🙏

  • @notrinz8707
    @notrinz8707 Рік тому +3

    1:51 the guy on the right disappeared??!!!!!

  • @motofilms289
    @motofilms289 Рік тому

    I`d run it a little richer those kx`s like to detonate after some hours you can hear it in the top end but thing is crisp

  • @tomatoknuckles
    @tomatoknuckles Рік тому

    Fu*k that's clean. Letting it eat is the right thing to do tho, sounds sweet 👌

  • @arturomanzanobarbosa1150
    @arturomanzanobarbosa1150 Рік тому

    Bro You look’s like Eli tomac hahah✊🏼

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      Hahah hell yeah I'll take it thank you 😂

  • @ironbullet7920
    @ironbullet7920 4 місяці тому

    How tall are you for reference I want one wanna know if I’m good height

  • @humble9828
    @humble9828 Рік тому

    Did you sell your 150?

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому

      nope I still have the 150 and will continue riding that in videos as well, love my 150sx too much to sell it!

    • @humble9828
      @humble9828 Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman That sick, now you have 2 great bikes to switch between

  • @hennyvernooy9099
    @hennyvernooy9099 Рік тому

    That thing loks like a roket ship

  • @kubamx2676
    @kubamx2676 Рік тому

    i think you have too much air pressure in front tire

  • @wyattguttery9614
    @wyattguttery9614 Рік тому

    Fun fact, there isn’t anything better than ripping a 2 stroke lol

  • @AndreyZzz
    @AndreyZzz Рік тому

    💚💥👍💪👊

  • @Bixbysayshi
    @Bixbysayshi Рік тому

    Dude idk I've never hit as many accidental neutrals in m life as when I had my 2003 KX250 hahaha Idk if it's a kawi thing or what

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      hahaha dude it must be! My KTM doesn't ever want to go into neutral and this Kawi loves to go into neutral when I'm trying to downshift to 1st haha

    • @Bixbysayshi
      @Bixbysayshi Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman Haha my main riding buddy rides a 2009 KTM 450 and he can NEVER find neutral when we stop and he always has to bend down and find it by hand so yeah I think we've cracked the code of the universe hahaha

  • @Godxillaaa
    @Godxillaaa Рік тому

    We lost another one

  • @Chevy_ford_kindaguy
    @Chevy_ford_kindaguy Рік тому +1

    We're the ktm?

  • @ryans.simpson5701
    @ryans.simpson5701 Рік тому

    I'm turning my 01 kx250 2stroke into a supermoto

  • @mtb_jake4897
    @mtb_jake4897 Рік тому

    I think you suit orange more to be honest

    • @DerekHallman
      @DerekHallman  Рік тому +1

      I still have my KTM 150 SX. Gonna make content with both bikes :)

    • @mtb_jake4897
      @mtb_jake4897 Рік тому

      @@DerekHallman ok I just think you look better on orange but I love the sound of 250s screaming

  • @ErotmousErection
    @ErotmousErection 6 місяців тому

    Sets up good....

  • @searock3285
    @searock3285 Рік тому

    early gang

  • @Krikkaaa
    @Krikkaaa Рік тому

    Hi

  • @angelamartin3060
    @angelamartin3060 Рік тому +1

    Ktm or the kx

    • @sdb92
      @sdb92 Рік тому

      Known To Malfunction (KTM)? Hell no! Kawie all the way! 👍🏻🇺🇸

    • @Motofumes159
      @Motofumes159 10 місяців тому

      @@sdb92they rarely malfunction but everybody has a different opinion

    • @sdb92
      @sdb92 10 місяців тому

      @@Motofumes159 LOL! Not an opinion, l have seen it several times…