Slynk! You rock son!... I love the way you explain this DAW... this video was recorded 6 year ago and now 2024 nothing has change.. The best tutorial in warping and time streatch on UA-cam. Thanks bro!!
Good tutorial :) I made some extra notes people might find useful: - Tones mode is dynamic and changes in realtime based on the signal (sample). The Grain size is just an average in that case. In Texture mode the grain size is the exact value used per grain in milliseconds (unless you add flux randomisation). * Tip: Grain size can be misused to make crazy formant sounds especially when it's modulated. You kinda touched on it in the video. I tend to set the transpose at least an octave or two up and the grain size to ~130 and have quick sliding modulations. I think this works better on vocals and synths as opposed to drums but it's all fair game. - Beats mode with either of the looping settings will only loop the latter half of each segment (from the closest zero crossing) - not the entire segment. * Tip: You can place a bunch of transient markers (or warp markers) near each other throughout the sample and use a high transpose setting to get cool retrig/stutters that sound reminiscent of Infected Mushroom's stuff. If you don't want to change the original pitch You can use Complex to transpose shift your source sample down first and render or consolidate that then transpose the result back up using the the beats transient stutter method. - You can use Quantize on the audio the same as you would with a midi clip which should speed up lining up things like the guitar riff used in the video. There will still be minor changes to make after like shift-moving those offset markers that Live didn't get right but overall should be faster I think. Cheers for the note on ZPlane's input, I always assumed the Complex modes were secret Ableton in-house stuff. I can read up about them some more now :)
Slynk!!!! You became my favorite UA-camr in less than a week! You do a perfect job of explaining things. I never feel bored or overwhelmed. You hit the sweet spot of explaining and pacing to match how I learn. Thank you so much! Do you have some kind of Patreon or way I can support you?
Hey Slynk, very nice tutorial but you have mistaken the definition of tones and texture algorithms. You basically swapped them :) To clarify a bit: ''tones'' works best with monophonic sounds (i.e bass, vocals, leads) and ''texture'' works best with polyphonic content (i.e pads, ambiences or drones). All the rest is very good, thanks for going deep in explaining algorithms, especially with the visual demonstration you did with the audio clip! Cheers
Fantastic tutorial! I'm transitioning from using Reason to Ableton, and have just learned about the launch and randomization/quantization settings. Now I need to dive into warping and the settings for timestretching, and this video created a guide for me by which I feel I don't need to see any other tutorials on timestretching in Ableton. Thanks a LOT!
I love screwing around with Groove Templates. Applying grooves on different parts and places and experimenting with them for different feel and subtle nuances. Definitely helps. Been diving hardcore into Ableton recently. All making a lot more sense now.
Amazing video dude. Answered nearly every question I had vis a vis time stretching and warping. Moving transients was giving me extreme headaches. Thank you!
Great tutorial my friend. I respect you for sharing knowledge with others as you learn yourself, because knowledge is power. Takes a big person to do that ✊ Keep Rockin!
dude ur awsome most to the point and explanatory tutorials I have came across give yourself a pat on the back for me because my hand doesn't want to fit threw the computer box screen majigi... thanx mate!!!
The only video on youtube I could find that clarifying how it actually works! Thank you! Hasn't Complex/Complex Pro got improved in Live 10? I was wondering how to make a proper DJ mix in Ableton Live, if long tracks cannot be stretched without damaging the audio, unless it's re-pitch mode It seems warping algorithms in Serato or Rekordbox are much more polite and accurate to the audio... But if there's a need to make a non-live mix, what should I do?
Thanks so much for all your tutorials dude! They've helped me so much and consistently inspire me to learn more. Also, you're set at rabbits eat lettuce this year was off the chain. Much love.
Shoutout to the guy who made this video. I have zero usage for this knolage as I don't use Ableton or make music or edit audio in any way but you did a great job explaining everything in great detail. Also your glasses are rad as fuck
Great vids slynk. I've been using live for a couple of years and i'm stuck doing things mostly the same way and not exploring all the possibilities. This one gave me inspiration to start warping the shit out of things ;D thanks!
this is a top notch tutorial i've been using cubase 8 pro for a while now and i'm seeing some major differences in what each can do well and for the guitar timing, cubase has an incredibly intuitive iterative quantize mode that basically does all the manual work for you without destroying the sound too much i love ableton's fx chain and the sampler but in terms of convenience, it falls a bit short also, i really hope i could solo and arm tracks with my keyboard instead of having to do everything with my mouse :(
There is really no difference between them in terms of how they affect the sound when warping. The grey sudo transient markers have been automatically created by Ableton after importing the audio file. It's a convenience thing. However, moving a grey marker and clicking in into a grid line will affect position of all previous and following grey markers to proportionally match the change you made. The yellow markers will never move if you move other markers near it so they are like anchored in a fixed position. So, for example, if i'm warping a long audio file, I like to set a yellow marker at the beginning and the end to start with, then I'll set a marker at the half way point and then at the half way point of the half way point and so on until I have framed each whole beat division with a yellow marker before getting down to the nitty gritty. If I don't do this and start setting my sudo transient markers to the closest grid line from beginning to end, I might find out that the rest of the clip has suffered so many tempo changes that I've completely lost track of the intended timing of the audio clip. I may do another video where I warp an acapella. These are especially hard because sometimes it's hard to tell where the start and end position is. There a re a few tricks to make it easier that I didn't explain in this video. 20min long, kinda ran out of time haha! Probably more info than you really need but I hope that helps.
Hello Slynk! Thank for video, did you know maybee in 2023 world have any plugins with LIVE warp/time stretch algorithms(like Zynaptiq Wormhole). I think will be great play on synth and hear instantly stretching sound in time.
A good addendum to this would be how to properly add a acapella using the time stretch. I have seen others do it, and i still struggle. Do you have a vid that covers that?
I'm interested to see what Magix does with Acid Pro since they bought the software rights. Acid would have been one of the go to daw's today if Sony would have a had any type of vision.
Thanks a lot for this! You’re a star. So, for Warping a song performed by live musicians, what’s best for speeding up? Would you Warp individual tracks or the whole song for the most natural sounding results? Following these advice, Complex Pro would loose some high end, but would you ever use Beats mode for vocals? Seeing that it’s the least intrusive it makes sense, but I’m confused now... I really thought Complex Pro was the shizznit..
oh god I was hoping I wouldn't have to click everything individually to get good warp/stretch effects but looks like you gotta go in and get every detail jesus. Thanks for showing the hot keys though. Also I am wondering how long it takes you to put in all the warp markers and how long does it take you to finish your tracks in general?
Well.. You can spend as little or as much time as you want with warping. For me, I like getting every little sound to be perfect. I have the time and energy to put into the tiny details of a song. I typically spend like 4 or 5 full days to complete an entire song. But that would be perfect undisturbed 10 hour days. And I sometimes spend longer pondering or exploring different creative ideas along the way.
If you only need a couple warp markers to bring the audio to the correct timing, would this also preserve the audio quality more? The less warp markers the better?
0:42 repitch
1:04 tones
2:28 texture
4:10 beats
9:10 complex
11:45 complex pro
14:25 application/context
Thank you lol
Thanks again!
Doing god's work
Slynk! You rock son!... I love the way you explain this DAW... this video was recorded 6 year ago and now 2024 nothing has change.. The best tutorial in warping and time streatch on UA-cam. Thanks bro!!
Good tutorial :)
I made some extra notes people might find useful:
- Tones mode is dynamic and changes in realtime based on the signal (sample). The Grain size is just an average in that case. In Texture mode the grain size is the exact value used per grain in milliseconds (unless you add flux randomisation).
* Tip: Grain size can be misused to make crazy formant sounds especially when it's modulated. You kinda touched on it in the video. I tend to set the transpose at least an octave or two up and the grain size to ~130 and have quick sliding modulations. I think this works better on vocals and synths as opposed to drums but it's all fair game.
- Beats mode with either of the looping settings will only loop the latter half of each segment (from the closest zero crossing) - not the entire segment.
* Tip: You can place a bunch of transient markers (or warp markers) near each other throughout the sample and use a high transpose setting to get cool retrig/stutters that sound reminiscent of Infected Mushroom's stuff. If you don't want to change the original pitch You can use Complex to transpose shift your source sample down first and render or consolidate that then transpose the result back up using the the beats transient stutter method.
- You can use Quantize on the audio the same as you would with a midi clip which should speed up lining up things like the guitar riff used in the video. There will still be minor changes to make after like shift-moving those offset markers that Live didn't get right but overall should be faster I think.
Cheers for the note on ZPlane's input, I always assumed the Complex modes were secret Ableton in-house stuff. I can read up about them some more now :)
Slynk!!!! You became my favorite UA-camr in less than a week! You do a perfect job of explaining things. I never feel bored or overwhelmed. You hit the sweet spot of explaining and pacing to match how I learn. Thank you so much! Do you have some kind of Patreon or way I can support you?
this comment just made my day
I must admit, I don't normally comment on stuff but this was so helpful. Thanks for all the videos!
Hey Slynk, very nice tutorial but you have mistaken the definition of tones and texture algorithms. You basically swapped them :) To clarify a bit: ''tones'' works best with monophonic sounds (i.e bass, vocals, leads) and ''texture'' works best with polyphonic content (i.e pads, ambiences or drones). All the rest is very good, thanks for going deep in explaining algorithms, especially with the visual demonstration you did with the audio clip! Cheers
So glad Ableton posted your vocoder vid. Best videos, clings to my brain. Thanks
Fantastic tutorial! I'm transitioning from using Reason to Ableton, and have just learned about the launch and randomization/quantization settings. Now I need to dive into warping and the settings for timestretching, and this video created a guide for me by which I feel I don't need to see any other tutorials on timestretching in Ableton. Thanks a LOT!
Good looking out on this tutorial.
Cleared up some issues with warping. Abelton is
was trying to figure out how to warp my drum samples thank you so much this solved my issues!
Nicely laid out! Plus, the mention of being able to use not just one mode for a single clip is brilliant! Gettin ready for the pros...
I love screwing around with Groove Templates.
Applying grooves on different parts and places and experimenting with them for different feel and subtle nuances. Definitely helps.
Been diving hardcore into Ableton recently. All making a lot more sense now.
Top notch vid! I find ableton a joy to use but I've had issues getting my head around warping. Nice one
Amazing video dude. Answered nearly every question I had vis a vis time stretching and warping. Moving transients was giving me extreme headaches. Thank you!
Great tutorial my friend. I respect you for sharing knowledge with others as you learn yourself, because knowledge is power. Takes a big person to do that ✊ Keep Rockin!
the way you explain this stuff is great. thank you
dude ur awsome most to the point and explanatory tutorials I have came across give yourself a pat on the back for me because my hand doesn't want to fit threw the computer box screen majigi... thanx mate!!!
Thanx Slynk! I just started using this technique for a remix contest. This helped a lot.
Brilliant video, my friend! Thanks for the solid rundown! :D
dude you are a master at Ableton. learned a lot from these tutorials.
Thank you. 🙏
Best explanation I've seen of a commonly misunderstood aspect of Live.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this dude.
You should be a teacher you do a great job at explaining the points you're trying to explain. Great Job
Slynk you're a great teacher, subbed.
Awesome vid.....and dam, i've been a warping amateur using complex all the time. Great help, thanks for sharing your wisdom!!
Dude glad to see you back! Thanks for another killer tutorial.
The only video on youtube I could find that clarifying how it actually works! Thank you!
Hasn't Complex/Complex Pro got improved in Live 10?
I was wondering how to make a proper DJ mix in Ableton Live, if long tracks cannot be stretched without damaging the audio, unless it's re-pitch mode
It seems warping algorithms in Serato or Rekordbox are much more polite and accurate to the audio... But if there's a need to make a non-live mix, what should I do?
Great tutorial, the best on the subject I've seen. Keep it up!
Awesome tutorial. Never thought I'd hear Fourier transforms come up in an Ableton tutorial but makes total sense B-) Nice one Slynk!
reaaally awesome explanation
great info, i've been producing for a while now, and i'm learning a lot of new things here
Thanks so much for all your tutorials dude! They've helped me so much and consistently inspire me to learn more.
Also, you're set at rabbits eat lettuce this year was off the chain. Much love.
+Clan Muller cheers dude! Glad you liked the set!
Thanks a lot man. This was a great video demonstrating all of the warping features. big up!
Shoutout to the guy who made this video. I have zero usage for this knolage as I don't use Ableton or make music or edit audio in any way but you did a great job explaining everything in great detail. Also your glasses are rad as fuck
Great vids slynk. I've been using live for a couple of years and i'm stuck doing things mostly the same way and not exploring all the possibilities. This one gave me inspiration to start warping the shit out of things ;D thanks!
Another qualiteh tut, thumbs up (also guilty of using complex too many times cause I didn't fully understand beats, thank you sensei)
Maaan your sound is so clean I'm jelly.
Really informative video man. Thank you 🙏. BUT, your mouse placement on your mouse pad is making me extremely anxious 😂
Just discovered your channel.... Your videos are excellent!!! Thanks for your time and effort! [SUBSCRIBED]
Sweet baby jeebus, that transient envelope setting in Beats Mode is amazing! How did I miss that? Thanks man
Using to clean drum break hits is absolutly life changing as a beat maker
Awesome video man. Thanks for the walk through! Liked, commented and subbed!
thanks man still helping me out
Awesome video! Perfect explanation and fun too. Thanks man!
Such a killer video. Thank you X 1,000,000. This cleared up a LOT of confusion.
A great option a bit out of warp (for short loops) is slicing to midi and changing the tempo. works on a lot of cases :)
You're a G. Thanks for the knowledge
Great video, thank you! What was the part where you applied the groove to the guitar sample. Was that the drum track?
your channel is awesome, great explaining. Thanx so much and keep up the good work!
Man, genius tutorial easy and efficient
Amazing video, thanks Evan! Keep it up :)
7:43 where have I heard that before? ;)
Really interesting thanks! You the man!
Amazing video Slynk, like everything you do!, thanks!
amazing video . got lots of info. i will subscribe thanks.
This is gold, thank you!
Super helpful. Thanks!
Thanks a lot! Especially for the shift marker move thing. AWESOME! ;)
this is a top notch tutorial
i've been using cubase 8 pro for a while now and i'm seeing some major differences in what each can do well
and for the guitar timing, cubase has an incredibly intuitive iterative quantize mode that basically does all the manual work for you without destroying the sound too much
i love ableton's fx chain and the sampler but in terms of convenience, it falls a bit short
also, i really hope i could solo and arm tracks with my keyboard instead of having to do everything with my mouse :(
Thanks for the dope tutorial Slynk
My pleasure Keith!
Excellent explanation! Thorough and entertaining. Subbed 👍😉
Excellent tutorial. Really explained a lot. Thank you! :)
Very helpful video.
I like using complex pro for stuff like pitched vocals. I find that beats works great for timing och complex pro for pitch transformations :)
Great job! Learned so much 👍
Great video!
Great tutorial as always. Could you just elaborate a bit more on the difference between the gray pseudo markers and the yellow markers?
There is really no difference between them in terms of how they affect the sound when warping. The grey sudo transient markers have been automatically created by Ableton after importing the audio file. It's a convenience thing. However, moving a grey marker and clicking in into a grid line will affect position of all previous and following grey markers to proportionally match the change you made. The yellow markers will never move if you move other markers near it so they are like anchored in a fixed position.
So, for example, if i'm warping a long audio file, I like to set a yellow marker at the beginning and the end to start with, then I'll set a marker at the half way point and then at the half way point of the half way point and so on until I have framed each whole beat division with a yellow marker before getting down to the nitty gritty. If I don't do this and start setting my sudo transient markers to the closest grid line from beginning to end, I might find out that the rest of the clip has suffered so many tempo changes that I've completely lost track of the intended timing of the audio clip.
I may do another video where I warp an acapella. These are especially hard because sometimes it's hard to tell where the start and end position is. There a re a few tricks to make it easier that I didn't explain in this video. 20min long, kinda ran out of time haha!
Probably more info than you really need but I hope that helps.
wow ur so fun and friendly
Really good video! Thanks for the time and effort!
Loved this one. Brilliant.
Hello Slynk! Thank for video, did you know maybee in 2023 world have any plugins with LIVE warp/time stretch algorithms(like Zynaptiq Wormhole). I think will be great play on synth and hear instantly stretching sound in time.
Right on man, thanks for the class slynk, seriously helped thank you..
dope video can you do lo fi down tempo tutorial love your tutorials very helpful
Thank you for this! Super cool video! A+++
dayum, i didnt know where ableton get this alg.! nice bro
finally i know what complex pro does.. (e.g. envelope)
Great video man! now time to get to work :)
INTRO = 🔥
Oi its slynko dynko. Great video
Thank you, Slynk!
your videos are the best
thanks man! exactly what I needed.
A good addendum to this would be how to properly add a acapella using the time stretch. I have seen others do it, and i still struggle. Do you have a vid that covers that?
Great info, thanks man!
Nice tutorial!
Thank you very much
Dude...once again, thank you.
fANTASTIC LESSON, THANKS MUCH MY FRIEND!
I'm interested to see what Magix does with Acid Pro since they bought the software rights. Acid would have been one of the go to daw's today if Sony would have a had any type of vision.
Thanks, I always wondered about this.
this guy's mouse skills are next level
such a good tutorial. thank you
super good! thank you!
Ow man, i've been putting samples on complex/complex pro for like 5 years straight. Now i feel ashamed... :-(
+Julius Rox Beats I'm so glad you found this video! Start making your music sound better!
Great vid! Learned a lot, thanks
Could you share the link to the Complex documentation you showed in the video?
excellent tutorial, thank you :)
Thanks a lot for this! You’re a star.
So, for Warping a song performed by live musicians, what’s best for speeding up?
Would you Warp individual tracks or the whole song for the most natural sounding results? Following these advice, Complex Pro would loose some high end, but would you ever use Beats mode for vocals? Seeing that it’s the least intrusive it makes sense, but I’m confused now... I really thought Complex Pro was the shizznit..
You exactly teach things that nobody explains but are super important. and also things I'm really curious about. you'er the best Ableton Tutor.
Thanks man. I'm glad you like the videos :)
oh god I was hoping I wouldn't have to click everything individually to get good warp/stretch effects but looks like you gotta go in and get every detail jesus. Thanks for showing the hot keys though. Also I am wondering how long it takes you to put in all the warp markers and how long does it take you to finish your tracks in general?
Well.. You can spend as little or as much time as you want with warping. For me, I like getting every little sound to be perfect. I have the time and energy to put into the tiny details of a song. I typically spend like 4 or 5 full days to complete an entire song. But that would be perfect undisturbed 10 hour days. And I sometimes spend longer pondering or exploring different creative ideas along the way.
Thanks for reply, that's what I would've guessed. As you get better the tiny details matter more and more.
If you only need a couple warp markers to bring the audio to the correct timing, would this also preserve the audio quality more? The less warp markers the better?
Good video!
that was great thank you