Thanks a lot for this video! Maybe more than a month already I'm strangling trying to open my headlights Hella produced for a VAG group model car and couldn't reach further than to melt one of the housings of the headlights and I was wondering what is wrong with my oven or what I'm missing and doing wrong and why I can't make this seal move even with a millimetre out without cracking the lens or so and after 100 videos that I saw you finally brought the fire :)
Just ordered permatex 81173 due to the clarity of your video. Can't find straight up answers anywhere for sealing cut open headlights. Since butyle will not hold the light together I went crazy searching for a proper adhesive. Thank you for your video keep it up
Great video . So I have a pair of e90 headlights and they use permaseal, I am going to retrofit with a morimoto h1 7.0 and I’ve read that cutting them open is much better . Only thing is can’t find where or how I should start to Dremel. Any tips ? Did you just cut the on the black part of the housing or right in the middle where the Lens and housing meet ? Thank you
I would love to see a video like this on how to open 2013 fusion lights! I want to open my lights but I hear they are a huge pain as well. Have you done a set of Fuiosn lights? Are they as bad as these focus lights? Thanks! love your vids!
beko23 I kinda want to do a few more of these jobs start to finish with a really clean and well documented cut process to share. I’m guessing a few trucks and domestic cars would fall into the list of cars on my hit list.
Is this how most focus lights are like the newer ones. Ive got a 14 focus it looks like someone tryed opening it because its got black sealant around it in the corner that and i get alittle condensation from time to time.
I think you just have to buy some special tools for permacil, and with a lot of love, you give a beating to the headlights, and that's it, you opened it.
2016 Escape Fogs permasealed? They literally took me 2 minutes to open after coming out of the oven. The seals came off easily for a nice clean up too.
a tip, to clean the sealant (silicone) try to spray a little product to clean windows glass after applying the sealant, do not dirty your hands or headlights, clean work is perfect work and less time is money.
Hey man this is very helpful information. Im definitely not looking forward to doing this... Is there a reason you didnt just replace the sealant with that morimoto butyl retroseal stuff? It seemed like that stuff was so much easier to work with!
Would baking the lights longer make it easier to remove the lense? Instead of 5-7 mins; maybe like 10-15 mins? Or would it risk damaging the headlights?
Yes absolutely! I originally did 7-10 minutes and had to redo them at 20 minutes each. Even then holy shit it was a struggle I dont ever ever ever ever ever wanna see again
GTR Wendy one of my favorite feelings, is getting the keys to a super fancy car, and tearing into it piece by piece, till there’s a pile of bolts, and parts everywhere. Lights are very much the same, but these days I don’t really stray too far from what I know like the back of my hand. So nervous, no, but definitely annoyed when things soak up tons of time since I’m flying blind.
been doing permaseal focus lights since 2010 they are permaseal all the way back to 2005. I don't really mind it quite often it's less messy and easier to get a clean channel. Cutting is never an option. I want it to look like I never was in there.
Broooooooo… I just fucking love this video! Please update this video if you found a more easy wait to work with those type of headlights because damn.. i just did some Cadillac headlights and I swear to god, never again as well lol 😂!! Please reply to this if you see it!
Honestly I just got done removing some lenses from my lights that had permaseal in them and it’s a lot easier to use head and pry them open a little bit at a time.
Could you please make a video on how to cut open my 17 focus ST lights, I am trying to do a DIY DRL conversation from the boring white to green LED modules. I agree with you, trying to unseal that is a no no!
I've work on the 2014 pre lift headlights from focus... yeah this permaseal fookin sucks. Took me over 8 hours to do both and I barely had time to sleep coz I had to finish them so I can drive to work. After I bought some indonesian aftermarket headlights and those were sealed with the good stuff. Customized those and threw away stock ones that lost their decent looks after all this nightmare.
I did work on my Nissan Sentra 2015 it takes me like an hour to open it I heated for 15 minutes at 290 just be patient, then I put it back on the same ugly rubber and reseal on top of it. It comes up perfect. I was thinking 🤔 what that hell was this thing this was my first and last time with this stupid rubber glue., Thank you for the video I wasn’t along 😂 😂 😂
Bmw uses something similar silicon based I think, on the E90 series headlights, I had to cut mines with the dremmel, then run a razor blade between the lens and abs, bc I heated 1 side so much the black abs bubbled and the sealant was like no heat was applied, so i figured out that was my only option
Did you use Butyl to seal it after cutting mate? Doing the same thing on Saturday and Ive got some Reemo High Performance Butyl which I plan to seal it with afterwards.
@@mrsweete9065 no, I never ended up adapting them to any car, so I removed the projectors to use them inside my corollas headlights, im gonna see if I can give the rest of the headlights to someone local who may need the lens or inside parts
@@TCreatorO oh right, i was just curious if there was any condensation after sealing the lense with the top lip cut. I suppose I'll try and use a pick and hook set to try and separate the lense without cutting the top lip and worst case I'll cut the top lip off and seal with Butyl and hope for the best haha.
Bought some aftermarket headlights to swap lenses on and run on my daily...it has this shit on them. I ruined the housing and wasted two and a half hours trying to get this shit off.
Same. That was a great opportunity missed to show the "D" shaped lens and inner workings on the projectors. Though in fairness it was a customer's headlights and the intended mod was small and easy.
want us to use "unicorn tears" but provide NOTHIN on what it is or how to buy it... sheesh dude, i like your vids but that pissed me off, help please,,
here is a link for tools that are essential to opening perma-seal headlights and btw you need to bake them about 10-20 mins closer to 20 and then pry open a spot and use these tools or just check out the video light works has on cold glue tools and I would recommend using retrorubber butyl by morimoto to reseal. www.lightwerkz.net/index.php/components/build-materials/cold-glue-tools.html
It's funny it's given the name perma seal yet my damn housing leaks and takes on humidity and burns oit ballast nonstop. Yet I cannot open it and fix the seal. Fuck gm.
TO OPEN PERMASEALED HEADLIGHTS: -Preheat oven to 400* -Once temp is desired, shut oven off and pop the headlight in there. -Set timer for 13 minutes -Remove light and slowly pry on a corner area, or work a thin tool between lense and housing. - Repeat hearing process until complete TO REMOVE EXCESS PERMASEAL IN HOUSING CHANNEL: - Heat housing at same temp and time as above -Remove housing from oven and scrape out the Permaseal with a flathead screwdriver -Repeat process over and over until it is all gone. The Permaseal is only pliable for 2-3 minutes before requiring the oven again
Thanks a lot for this video! Maybe more than a month already I'm strangling trying to open my headlights Hella produced for a VAG group model car and couldn't reach further than to melt one of the housings of the headlights and I was wondering what is wrong with my oven or what I'm missing and doing wrong and why I can't make this seal move even with a millimetre out without cracking the lens or so and after 100 videos that I saw you finally brought the fire :)
Just ordered permatex 81173 due to the clarity of your video. Can't find straight up answers anywhere for sealing cut open headlights. Since butyle will not hold the light together I went crazy searching for a proper adhesive. Thank you for your video keep it up
Alex Dumevski glad you got some value out of it 👍
Bro this vid is PERFECT!
Great video . So I have a pair of e90 headlights and they use permaseal, I am going to retrofit with a morimoto h1 7.0 and I’ve read that cutting them open is much better . Only thing is can’t find where or how I should start to Dremel. Any tips ? Did you just cut the on the black part of the housing or right in the middle where the Lens and housing meet ? Thank you
God bless your boys and your family!
I would love to see a video like this on how to open 2013 fusion lights! I want to open my lights but I hear they are a huge pain as well. Have you done a set of Fuiosn lights? Are they as bad as these focus lights? Thanks! love your vids!
beko23 I kinda want to do a few more of these jobs start to finish with a really clean and well documented cut process to share. I’m guessing a few trucks and domestic cars would fall into the list of cars on my hit list.
Can you give any insight as to the Unicorn tears solvent? I'm in the Uk so cant order the stuff. Thanks
What about clear lens swap for those headlights
At what temperature do you put the oven on again ?
Is this how most focus lights are like the newer ones. Ive got a 14 focus it looks like someone tryed opening it because its got black sealant around it in the corner that and i get alittle condensation from time to time.
Very good video, helped me alot
Can I ask where you get the unicorn fluid? 🦄 😁
Thanks
ya what was that?
I think you just have to buy some special tools for permacil, and with a lot of love, you give a beating to the headlights, and that's it, you opened it.
Hi
If I Cut the rear part of the headlight housing can I be able to remove the projector? Or I really need to remove the headlight lens?
Thank you!
2016 Escape Fogs permasealed? They literally took me 2 minutes to open after coming out of the oven. The seals came off easily for a nice clean up too.
Hey Chris I've got a ford mustang 2017 GT do you know if they are permasealed or rubber butyl? Is baking best for these ones?
Have you opened up Ford Taurus (2002)? Is it perma sealed or butyl ?
a tip, to clean the sealant (silicone) try to spray a little product to clean windows glass after applying the sealant, do not dirty your hands or headlights, clean work is perfect work and less time is money.
OK that stuff is permaseal what's on civic mk8 rear cluster as I'm working on led retro fit cluster but on the Rear???? Kind regards
Hey man this is very helpful information. Im definitely not looking forward to doing this... Is there a reason you didnt just replace the sealant with that morimoto butyl retroseal stuff? It seemed like that stuff was so much easier to work with!
engine gets hot and it will burst open again unless you stapel all around iit
Are the 2017 focus set hatchback permaseal?
Dammit I can't believe I missed this video explains a lot 🙈
Would baking the lights longer make it easier to remove the lense? Instead of 5-7 mins; maybe like 10-15 mins?
Or would it risk damaging the headlights?
Yes absolutely! I originally did 7-10 minutes and had to redo them at 20 minutes each. Even then holy shit it was a struggle I dont ever ever ever ever ever wanna see again
Its possible to make a head light housing?
How do you get the perma seal out of the channel?
Looks like a challenge
Jay Moore Gaming And Reviews man too much so!
Do you know if a cadillac xts is permaseal or butyl?
Do you feel nervous at all working on lights? Most of these parts are so delicate.
GTR Wendy one of my favorite feelings, is getting the keys to a super fancy car, and tearing into it piece by piece, till there’s a pile of bolts, and parts everywhere. Lights are very much the same, but these days I don’t really stray too far from what I know like the back of my hand. So nervous, no, but definitely annoyed when things soak up tons of time since I’m flying blind.
been doing permaseal focus lights since 2010 they are permaseal all the way back to 2005. I don't really mind it quite often it's less messy and easier to get a clean channel.
Cutting is never an option. I want it to look like I never was in there.
Any tips? I have a set of 2021 Superduty lights I'm trying to get open. Thanks
Do you guys bake the headlight to cure the permatex or just let it dry on it's own?
We let it just cure over night
ouch hah my fiesta st is sad :p but Ill let you know when I open a set up, just got a job so Ill be making an order shortly hah :P
Broooooooo… I just fucking love this video! Please update this video if you found a more easy wait to work with those type of headlights because damn.. i just did some Cadillac headlights and I swear to god, never again as well lol 😂!! Please reply to this if you see it!
Where did you get this clear reflector? Over been scavenging the internet for one
Honestly I just got done removing some lenses from my lights that had permaseal in them and it’s a lot easier to use head and pry them open a little bit at a time.
Why didn't you show whole process on the Focus headlight?
Could you please make a video on how to cut open my 17 focus ST lights, I am trying to do a DIY DRL conversation from the boring white to green LED modules.
I agree with you, trying to unseal that is a no no!
Have you done 2017 Ford Fusion
I have not
I like your videos I’m almost ready to try for my self already did my fog lights
What happened there at 8:42?
I've work on the 2014 pre lift headlights from focus... yeah this permaseal fookin sucks. Took me over 8 hours to do both and I barely had time to sleep coz I had to finish them so I can drive to work. After I bought some indonesian aftermarket headlights and those were sealed with the good stuff. Customized those and threw away stock ones that lost their decent looks after all this nightmare.
I did work on my Nissan Sentra 2015 it takes me like an hour to open it I heated for 15 minutes at 290 just be patient, then I put it back on the same ugly rubber and reseal on top of it. It comes up perfect.
I was thinking 🤔 what that hell was this thing this was my first and last time with this stupid rubber glue.,
Thank you for the video I wasn’t along 😂 😂 😂
I think I'm gonna just cut open all perma headlights, just looks prettier
Bmw uses something similar silicon based I think, on the E90 series headlights, I had to cut mines with the dremmel, then run a razor blade between the lens and abs, bc I heated 1 side so much the black abs bubbled and the sealant was like no heat was applied, so i figured out that was my only option
Yeah dude, BMW uses the worst stuff ever! Totally not into lights that make me hate myself lol.
Did you use Butyl to seal it after cutting mate? Doing the same thing on Saturday and Ive got some Reemo High Performance Butyl which I plan to seal it with afterwards.
@@flyryde 100% bro, that silicon you can bake it at 500°F melt the light and it will be cool to the touch 😆
@@mrsweete9065 no, I never ended up adapting them to any car, so I removed the projectors to use them inside my corollas headlights, im gonna see if I can give the rest of the headlights to someone local who may need the lens or inside parts
@@TCreatorO oh right, i was just curious if there was any condensation after sealing the lense with the top lip cut. I suppose I'll try and use a pick and hook set to try and separate the lense without cutting the top lip and worst case I'll cut the top lip off and seal with Butyl and hope for the best haha.
Bought some aftermarket headlights to swap lenses on and run on my daily...it has this shit on them.
I ruined the housing and wasted two and a half hours trying to get this shit off.
So you opened them up for nothing? Was hoping someone finally would show the projector mounts to show what other projectors could fit.
Same. That was a great opportunity missed to show the "D" shaped lens and inner workings on the projectors. Though in fairness it was a customer's headlights and the intended mod was small and easy.
I was gonna say that this is the reason I don't buy Fords, but my Nissan has the same stuff.. lmao
want us to use "unicorn tears" but provide NOTHIN on what it is or how to buy it... sheesh dude, i like your vids but that pissed me off, help please,,
Keye T no don’t use that stuff bro. You’ll be a lot more pissed off if you do. Cut these.
FlyRyde yes sir
I now know exactly how to open my lights from hell made by Satan himself. I am eternally grateful
Honestly, all Focuses after 2011 are like that. If I had seen the video 3 years ago I would have given you some tips...
here is a link for tools that are essential to opening perma-seal headlights and btw you need to bake them about 10-20 mins closer to 20 and then pry open a spot and use these tools or just check out the video light works has on cold glue tools and I would recommend using retrorubber butyl by morimoto to reseal. www.lightwerkz.net/index.php/components/build-materials/cold-glue-tools.html
So I guess I gotta cut my fiesta st lights open huh? Lol
keegan hoculak looks that way 😓
I made a video on my channel opening fiesta st lights 😊
Spoolie ST that’s awesome bro, did you end up prying all the old sealant out before you resealed?
FlyRyde yeah removed it all then used butyl tape to seal back up! I then split them again to add demon eyes and it took 5 mins instead of 35 mins!
It's funny it's given the name perma seal yet my damn housing leaks and takes on humidity and burns oit ballast nonstop. Yet I cannot open it and fix the seal. Fuck gm.
I want to take this chemical
Crackhead nails! 😂😂😂
TO OPEN PERMASEALED HEADLIGHTS:
-Preheat oven to 400*
-Once temp is desired, shut oven off and pop the headlight in there.
-Set timer for 13 minutes
-Remove light and slowly pry on a corner area, or work a thin tool between lense and housing.
- Repeat hearing process until complete
TO REMOVE EXCESS PERMASEAL IN HOUSING CHANNEL:
- Heat housing at same temp and time as above
-Remove housing from oven and scrape out the Permaseal with a flathead screwdriver
-Repeat process over and over until it is all gone. The Permaseal is only pliable for 2-3 minutes before requiring the oven again
Chuck Wagon bro I melted mines, I smelt plastic then when I opened them... rip
@@sorrowdada what did you set your light on,,, i monitor them while heating to makes sure they dont tilt,,,
I bake at 230 for 15 mins, and can already see some housing plastic dripping. Can't imagine 400 for 13 mins...
Is it 400*F or 400*C?
You missed most important thing that "Permaseal sovent"