"I'M NOT SURPRISED THE GOLDEN GENERATION WON NOTHING!" Darren Bent makes SHOCKING England claim!
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Agree completely.
At one point Italy had a defence of Buffon in goal. Maldini, cannavaro, nesta & zambrotta. With Pirlo and gattuso in centre mid..... stronger and more balanced than any defence in England’s history.
The “golden generation” faced other teams with platinum level talent. Probably only a couple of England players would have made the first 11 of their rivals
That italian team was sick. I loved gattuso what a player. This guy always should have had 3 yellows every game but only got one🤣 he even ended his career at my hometown club as player manager👍🏻
The question is why there were named the golden generation when they literally won nothing. Google mate portugal is the golden generation cause they actually won stuff world youth cup back to back and after that they were named golden generation. Only english fans to have this conversation about group of guys who have won nothing smh😂😂😂
Seaman
G.Neville, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole
Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes
Owen, Rooney
England were actually pretty tight back then, Rio was a Rolls-Royce, Terry was up there with any defender, Cole was arguably the best LB in the world.
The squads in 2002 were ridiculously stacked though, Italy had Totti, Del Piero, Vieri, Montella and Inzaghi as their attacking options, and I didn't think Italy were too hot back then.
Brazil had Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo as their front three which is ridiculous. But I think Ronaldinho doesn't miss/hit that freekick over Seaman and we might have had a strong shout that world cup. I think the winner of that match wins the WC and Brazil were the ones who got through the 90mins.
In my opinion, the golden generation was an exaggeration term hyped by media. No doubt about they were too talented by not to that extent.
Completely agree - English media massively hyped the personalities of that team and turned them into A-list celebrities making everyone think they were better than they were. Definitely a good squad that underperformed, but not a "Golden Generation"
@@Ode_10 No wonder this still goes on hence the pricetag of English players are unbelievable 😅
Imagine Messi and Ronaldo are English
They had world class in nearly every position on the park 😂😂
Golden generation was hyped more because of the awful wag/media situation that was happening.
Doesn't seem to be the case these days, it's more about the football. We don't know as much about Harry Kane's home life etc. Which can only be a good thing!!
I don't think it was overhyped. On paper the starting 11 was great, never had a manager to get it to gel nicely. Doesn't mean we had a better starting 11 than other countries of the time either. It was a top quality period of football.
Bent is a good pundit. He is honest and funny and great to listen to. He is quite refreshing to listen to tbh.
Agree, with Bent. Been saying this for years.
In the year England failed to qualify for a tournament with Lampard, Barry and Gerrard in midfield, Manchester United were winning the Champions League with Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves.
@Mr D huh?
They also had Ronaldo and Tevez upfront pal
@@James-st9uu They dominated the midfield
@@James-st9uu We can't mention the foriegn players who carried those clubs. We must remain in our deluded bubble of how amazing English teams are because of all the English players who make them great. HAHA.
Darren Bent was so unlucky for both 2006 and 2010. Walcott was picked in 2006 as a striker over Bent and then 2010 Heskey was picked, absolutely ridiculous but fair play to Darren.
werent walcott also picked over defoe in 2006? and/or poss lennon? at a time when walcott hadnt even played a game in the prem? or maybe im remembering it wrong? what do ya reckon mate?
@@indianastones6032 Lennon earned his spot, he had a very good season for Spurs. But Walcott hadn't even made his Arsenal debut and there was no danger of him changing his international allegiance so God knows what Sven was thinking.
@indiana stones
Lennon was picked instead of Wright-Phillips.
Walcott was picked instead of Defoe or Bent or anyone else that had a better claim to be there than Walcott who as mentioned hadn't ever played a Premier league game or an England game AND had only just turned 17.
It backfired on Sven because he only took 4 strikers on paper which was 2 less than the winners of that tournament took, they (Italy) took 6 strikers and they're known as a defensive team. Correct decision for them.
But really Sven took 2 & a half strikers because he was never going to play Walcott just gave him "experience" sitting on the bench which evidently Walcott (and I'm not criticising Walcott for this) didn't even use to great effect for his career like what could've been part of Sven's reasoning so it was even more pointless for Sven to take him. Rooney got injured by dirty Portuguese Chelsea player just before WorldCup and was not fit for the tournament but because of the excitement he gave the team and fans being their best attacking player he was in the team anyway, MichaelOwen was 1 of the other strikers and he was injury prone and did get injured in a group game and had to exit the tournament which literally left Crouch as the only striker England had left who wasn't very mobile. Back when Shearer played if he was the only striker left he'd struggle on his own and he was very good and better than Crouch. I don't think many managers would've made as much of a mess as Sven made with picking that WorldCup team.
All those names and left out the boss... RIVALDO
Three reasons, Bent bang on about the squads around, people prattle on about Englands 'golden generation' but the other nations had monstrous teams. Germany, Spain, France, Italy and Brazil especially were absurd. Secondly is that tribal mentality that apparently was in the dressing room, as well as tactics. The third one, is historically England just arent that amazing. Only reached the world cup semi finals three times EVER. One final. No Euros finals EVER. They simply don't have a great record.
But Italy also had the tribal mentality it did stop them players from Roma , inter , millan juve etc . And Spain had the same scenario as well
@@rc9719 yet they all managed to put it aside for the national team and win tournaments. When Rio was talking about it on Sky way back when the national team was practically never even considered, it was all Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea divisions. They weren't professional enough to put that aside for the greater good. If any nation had that as bad look at Spain. Most of that team was Real Madrid or Barcelona yet they out it aside and formed one of the most elite national teams of all time.
its a valid argument i agree but it just shows they were a bunch of babies to me , i washed ramos's real madrid and puyols barcelona have near physical battles on the pitch every match in the early 2010s and they still won 3 trophies together
@@rc9719 oh I totally agree mate, showed them up completely.
That's because The Fa stupidly sacked Glenn Hoddle. To win tournaments you need to play to your strengths. Hoddle would have got the best out of that team by playing out from the back instead of playing 442 which would of got the best out of players like Paul Scholes, Gerrard, lampard, Joe cole, Ferdinand etc. Playing 442 was Englands down fall.
England have normally been quarter final level. If they spent more time getting the squad to gel they could have got to the final.
He's 100% right. England had a great bunch of players but Brazil, Italy, France, Germany, Spain were just all better. Even Holland never win big tournaments and look at players they've had
England would have done alot better had The Fa not got rid of Glenn Hoddle as we would have played out from back and seen the best of the likes of Ferdinand, lampard Scholes Gerrard, Joe Cole etc. That would have played to our strengths instead of playing a predictable rigid 442 under Eriksson. That said i think had Gerrard been available for 2002 World cup England would have been alot better as a team and would havie ended up playing Brazil in the semi final instead of playing them at quarter final stage where they narrowly lost 2-1. where they wilted in the heat
The 'tribal' argument is one of the dumbest excuses I've ever heard. During the time Spain were dominating, Real Madrid and Barça were going through their most heated rivalry of all time. In the same year Spain won the World Cup, Ramos had punched Puyol in the throat earlier in the season. Every Clasico was a bloodbath. But every summer, the 2 footballing and somewhat 'political' enemies would get together and win it all. England's rivalries were no where near as heated as those Clasicos, where fights were constantly breaking out on the pitch, on the sidelines, in the tunnel and even on social media and La Liga meetings. These countries just had better players.
Those man hated each other. It was a rivalry about everything (football, politics, philosofy, cr7 vs Messi, guardiola vs mourinho) and still they became one of the best national teams ever. England just didn't have the players, they think they did because how overrated British players are
@@Tomas1999Benfica Only England overrates British players. In '06, France had the GOAT Prem player - Henry - and he wasn't even the best on the team. Zidane was another level. Then add Vieira, Thuram, Makélélé, Ribery, Trezeguet... and they still lost that world cup to an Italy side of Buffon, Cannavaro, Pirlo, Totti... Ronaldinho's Brazil didn't even make the final that year. Calling a team that never won anything a 'golden generation' just puts a cap on your own growth. Great countries barely remember the teams that lost, let alone those that never even reached a semi-final. If England is a great footballing nation, that stuff should be forgotten quickly. Unfortunately, the country's mindset and loser mentality holds it back. You think Germany would ever call a team that won nothing 'a golden generation'?
@@tharcisse7103 Italy, France, Brazil and Portugal had definitely a better squad than England during those years. One favorite can slip up, two maybe but not 3 or 4
@@Tomas1999Benfica Yh, plus Germany were always a better 'team'. Even if their squad isn't as star-studded, they get results. But between 2000-2008, England were no where near the level of France, Italy, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina and later Spain. All you have to do is look at the list of Ballon d'Or winners during those times. Brazil's front 3 of Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo in 2002, with a young Kaka watching from the bench, all ended their careers with Ballons d'Or. Maldini never even won a World Cup. Baggio lost a final. To talk about a team that never even made the semis is baffling to me. England have spent more money on football than any other country in the history of the game and still have just 1 World Cup from before the moon landing. Kids growing up in Brazilian shanti towns have 5. There's something fundamentally wrong in England's football philosophy.
You can't call it a golden generation if you win nothing or don't even get to semi finals. Spain had a golden generation, France had a golden generation.
That team needed Carrick, Lampard and Gerrard were the only holding midfielders at that time.
Except neither Gerrard or Lampard really were 'holding midfielders', were they??
With beckham, only way you integrate them is with 4-2-3-1 or diamond midfield with lampard at top and carrick at bottom
Eriksen could have made a better job of the formation, 4-4-2 is ancient
Brazil Rivaldo. Ronaldo, Ronaldinhio, kaka Italy Totti, Vieri, Del Piero, Inzaghi France Henry, Zidane, Trezeguet, Anelka,Pires just upfront. Italian defence Nesta, Canavaro, Maldini ,Zambrotta, france Blank, Desally, Thuram, Gallas, Evra, Lizarazu, lebouf . italian mid Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini French mid Viera, Petit, Makelele
*RIGHT ON, DARREN!* 👏 But terrible management and team formations/decisions also killed it!
Managers to blame too
When you have such great players you have to have a top manager , England down fall in that generation
U actually have to win stuff in order for people to name you the golden generation
Glenn Hoddle was the man for that Generation, which would have bought us Success. Southgate is doing what Hoddle was not allowed to do
I would Harry Redknapp would be a manager he would ignore in the street
Completely agree with Bents point on the fact that other squads just simply had better players. I also think that England tends to call up star names, even if they didn't fit in the team. It doesnt make sense that Carrick didn't have more caps, even tho he would have brought a lot more balance to the team. Yes, England had a generation of really good players, but not all of them needed to be in the team. There were some utility workman players that should have been added to the team just to bring balance.
We had the 2nd / 3rd best international team in the world from 2002-2006.
2002 we were beaten by the best team in the world due largely to a mistake.
2004 knocked out on penalties by runners-up after injury to our best player - biggest underachievement; we almost certainly had the best squad in that tournament on paper (just ahead of France).
2006 knocked out on penalties after our best player got sent off (who was also playing through injury the whole tournament) - France best team on paper at this time and we were maybe on par with Italy, Germany and Brazil.
How delusional could you be 😂 England was never EVER the second best team at any point in the 21st century
How does he know the England team are "all together" to get 20 odd players all loving each other is almost impossible.... The reason we have not won anything is due to BAD manager s over the years....
It’s happening now with this England team, they have come up together through the age groups that’s why this team is tight. So no it’s not impossible.
Darren Bent saying what I have said 1,000,000 times. Golden generation means fuck all if you are inferior to other sides playing at the same time. You don't play football against previous versions of your own national team. Brazil, France, Italy, Argentina were better teams in 2006 and Portugal and Germany were excellent too. We performed as we should have - being about the 8th best team in the world is not embarrassing... We performed as we should have based on our ability not because Stevie G, Rio and Jt were not best buddies...
There was also, I believe, never any true 'belief', or winning mentality, in those England squads or sides.. the English players who won stuff with their clubs were working with players and a manager of that same belief and mentality week-in-week out.. but NEVER with England.. You can't just transfer that into your national team if that ethos, even 'culture', are not there naturally, or, again, being continually worked on and fostered to become so!! As for managers like Sven, there were simply never any attacking bones in their whole bodies, nevermind any 'Let's go get em lads!' rallying calls!!!
Golden generation didn’t have any world class forwards except for Rooney. Nor a great keeper. Basically had great centre mids, centre backs and left back. Don’t think you can win tournaments off of that unless you’re very lucky.
Brazil, Spain, what about Iceland?
Crouch, Bent and Defoe shouldve been Eriksson's striker at Germany. Rooney crocked, Owen played 2 games that season and Walcott was playing u23 football at Arsenal! 😒
Walcott was playing for Southampton. He signed for arsenal that summer.
Best England team after 1966 was Euro 96 or Mexico 86
what about the italia 90 squad?
Alex Ferguson said British footballers are great in Britain but can’t adjust when they play foreign teams... the only players from that generation that were not overrated and could have held their own anywhere: Terry, Rio, Cole ... funny they were all defenders ... England midfield and strikers at the time were beyond overrated and couldn’t adjust
England do not produce world class managers with revolutionary tactics and style of play no English manager has ever won the Premier League that is the biggest problem with England the management. You can overachieve with average players if you have a great manager just look at Croatia and Portugal yes there’s one or two world class talents but the rest need to be carried and instructed properly in order to get through the finish line.
That's a great point, no English manager has won the prem, that's an amazing statistic
The only gold they sold was the brand names they created over the years with the overhyped media.
They were solid players because of the team they played for. Sure, they weren't average, but they would look more average if they played in an average team. There's definitely a handful who were amazing but that's it.
Plus, playing Gerrard and Lampard together is just... tactical nonsense.
I just watched Rooney on prime, he obviously was a big part of that golden generation if they were going to go deep in the major tournaments but I either forgot or didn't realize and it's not being a Scotsman im a football fan, he was either injured going in or got injured during the tournaments on like 3 / 4 occassions, I honestly forgot that until I watched Rooney the other day, so forget scholes playing on the left etc if Rooney was fit especially 2004 I think with Greece winning it England might of won that as he was starting to click game 2 and 3
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Rooney flopped at the world cup and Euros
Darren Bent actually has a brain. English pundits always overrate their own. That's why this golden generation was seen as a sure thing to win when they were not even on the max level of the very top teams let alone the best.
It was a golden generation for Football, this England side would be the best in so many generations, they’d dominate the current era IMO
Dumb Dumb check google there's only one golden generation which is portugal and the reason we were named the golden generation was because we won the world youth cup back to back. English fans are like their pundits they just talk shite
No they wouldn’t the current England is better than those frauds
Other teams were better what kind of excuse is that do u mean they were bronze generation cos golden usually means amongst the best apparently they had several world class but other teams had more or basically they were world class against Moldova or San Marino only
Lacked a world class Gk
Great individual players DO NOT and NEVER HAVE made great teams. England had great individuals who put club before country. SIMPLE AS!
Other countries seem to be able to put club rivalry aside for the greater good of the country!
Bent just wasn’t good enough . Rooney Defoe crouch all in front of him
@Luke Stephens That’s why we never win anything inform players equals inform performances.
The international teams of 98 to 10 were unreal. Put the "golden generaton" in today's game & they stand a much better chance.
But our current generation of England players got further than the supposed "golden generation" in any competition.
French team holistic now is better than previous generation. As a whole you can build 3 squads of players that can play in other squads
@@Ode_10 I totally agree, but because of our legendary centre mids, n Becks on the right, we always have rose tinted glasses. If only they got the right manager to use the Xmas tree formation. Scholes, Stevie and Lamps would have lifted a cup. I actually think the Euro 96 squad may have been our best overall
Same don’t feel like there are as many “legends” now.
@@Ode_10 thats because the international teams are weaker now..
That golden generation would deffo kill teams today because teams of today , players ect are nowhere near the level of yesteryear players
Darren Bent NEVER made a major tournament?! Zees ees CRAAAAZEEEE
Golden generation? Egos. Crap mangers. Obsession with picking best players out of position. Gerrard. Fantastic but an ego that was never reigned in. Stevie G. Central. Wide right. Behind a striker. What do you want Stevie? Utter nonsense.
The golden generation was over hype. The new generation of English players are better than the golden generation because they play tic tac football. They play possession football. This new England Squad would outpossess the golden generation and Harry Kane would score for fun. Sterling and Rashford would run riot. Attacking wise this new England team is better and they are getting results. I wouldn't be surprised if the won the European Championship or World Cup. And if you match up this new England team with Brazil or France team in the 2000's they would hold their own because they got players who can hurt you. The Golden generation did not have many attackers who can scare you. Rooney is not a striker. Joe Cole, Heskey, Shearer please. Those guys are decent in Premier League but not good outside premier league. Lampard and Gerard are not possession style midfielders. They can string a pass but they would get thoroughly outpossess playing against this new England squad and system. England is a much better side today and they are developing a lot of great talent that can play with anyone in the world. I am not even English but its obvious to me.
Likening Heskey with Shearer, and claiming that Shearer, too, wasn't good beyond the PL?? Really???.. In your own words.. PLEASE!!!.. (After all, if Harry Kane's - somehow - worth - 100-150 million, then Alan Shearer would have to be worth a cool 200-plus in today's market, as Kane certainly wouldn't be getting in ahead of him for the national side!!!)...
@@leebee5361 what have Alan Shearer did outside of the Premier league? Answer: Nothing. Also, back when Alan Shearer played, the Premier league was not the best league in the world. The Italian League and the Spanish league was better than the premier league back then. In 2021, the Premier league is the best league. Mancity and Chelsea just played in the finals of the Champions league. It's no debate if the premier league is the best league today. The English players that are playing today are better than the players back then. All Harry Kane has to do is transfer to ManCity or ManUnited and go win some trophies. It's all about possession football today. Teams are playing without a true number 9. Chelsea put Tommy Abraham and Giroud on the bench and went with a quick small player in Timo Werner. If Alan Shearer played today he would be relegated to the bench like Oliver Giroud. Giroud did more in his professional career than Shearer. He won world cup and Champions league and he is riding the bench because in today's game, they don't need a big guy who is static. Teams are going for quick players who can play that possession pressing system that is successful. Shearer would not be able to press for 90 minutes. He does not have the skill to possess the ball at a high rate. Shearers game is to get into the box and get his head on crosses and play with his back to goal. That type of play is obsolete in today's game. Gerard would also suffer because no top team is constantly playing the long ball. This new English team has way better technical players than in the pass. It's not even close. I appreciate those players in the pass grit and determination but England was a joke at the international level. They disappointed at every international tournament. Why? Because the better technical players, played in La Liga and Seria A. England has now caught up to the top teams in the world and that is because they have the best League.
@@Stewy-xw9fz Alan Shearer, just a big guy who was 'static'? Really?.. Did you never see him play?.. He could score all types of goal, from all distances, and could also easily hold off defenders when used as an outlet, even when he went wide for the ball.. Yes - and like Harry Kane, note - he never tested himself beyond the PL, but WAS his country's main striker (and helped them get to a big tournament's semis, as HK).. I just think he was better.. IMO.. Moreover, if I could somehow pick a team from the 'modern' era, I'd certainly have Shearer over Kane, and I think most actual football MANAGERS would, too.. Okay, the PL is technically much better these days, but to suggest the best English players of the past, especially of such a recent past, couldn't have 'cut it' today compared to those who ARE currently playing, is just being blinkered to how good some of those players really were.. (ps: England, note, are STILL not winning things, even with your current more technical 'super-heroes', although the national team players' 'mind-set', the biggest issue as I saw it, and mentioned in another reply I posted on here, is, at least, getting much better.. meaning that we don't seem to suffer as we did from that lack of real belief anymore)...
@@leebee5361 England went to the semi finals of the world cup. Also, England went to Spain a few years ago and beat them soundly. That would have never happened during Alan Shearers time. Also, Harry Kane career is not over so you cannot say Shearer is better than him. If Kane go to ManCity or ManUnited and win champions League and premier league trophies, Kane can go down as a better player in the history books. In today's football Shearer would be a player like Oliver Giroud.
@@Stewy-xw9fz Yes, England got to the WC semis.. as in 1990.. Not a new and unprecedented achievement, then, no?.. As for this 'debate', I cannot say that - IMO - Alan Shearer was a better player than Harry Kane is.. because Harry Kane's career is not yet over??? What exactly does that even mean, in so far as someone's OPINION of who is/ was better in that position is concerned?.. By your logic, if Harry Kane ultimately wins more than.. whoever, in fact lets just say George Best.. did then he's automatically a better player than even he was, yeah? (Which, btw.. getting fortunate enough to be inducted into an already winning side, - which WON'T be with Man Utd, anyway, not under Ole Gunnar No-mark! - rather than helping that side BECOME such trophy winners - a'la Shearer at Blackburn (a young Best at United, even) - I'd say isn't the 'great' feat you seem to believe). In fact, your team-sheet would ideally include ONLY trophy winners, by this reasoning, cos they JUST MUST be the better players.. right?? (Anyway, whatever.. I don't think we're convincing each other of too much we didn't already think, here.. have a good day)...
Yeah but Greece 2004, you can't tell me England were worse than them
@Josh Dolphin
You can't say Greece didn't deserve to win that tournament but at the same time if they didn't win that tournament then next in line would've been England and you're right England would've beaten Greece if they would've actually faced them during that tournament but they didn't because of that freak late turnaround in the England vs France game (still to this day no one knows what Gerrard was thinking) it meant England had to face the hosts instead in the quarter-finals and therefore the ref as well and even then England had many key players missing(Ferdinand, LedleyKing, NickyButt, player of the tournament at that point Rooney for most of the match....while Portugal had everyone available) and England still should've won had the lead for 80 minutes, lost a close lottery shootout on a beach pitch without Rooney and others to take part in shootout and also England did actually win the match 2-1 but for UrsMeier cheating in the 91st minute.
But I touched on it earlier mentioning Gerrard.
Apart from poor decisions against England, constantly taking Steven Gerrard to these tournaments was a massive hindrance to the team, he was just awful for England constantly knocked us out singlehandedly. Clearly didn't even have the passion for England anyway but idiot managers would still include him AND somehow made him captain England for not 1 but at least 3 major tournaments, just crazy foolish management to keep making the same mistake each time.
I’ll tell you why the golden generation won fuck all. In England players are overhyped and we love passion merchants rather than technical players with football brains. England had a failed midfield of Lampard, Barry and Gerrard whilst in 2008 Man Utd had Scholes, Carrick and Hargreaves in midfield coming up against the same opponents in these tournaments and winning champions leagues, back to back to back titles and the rest of it.
The players we overhype and thought were great were premierleague to European standard at best. Lampard and Gerrard were never world class. Gerrard won a CL because of Alonso, who made that Liverpool side tick. Lampard scored goals because he had Drogba laying it off to him and Essien and makelele doing all the donkey work in midfield. I don’t care what anyone says, nobody looked at Lampard and thought “wow what a player”.
The very few elite English players of that generation were: Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, Owen and Scholes. The rest were just good players.
England golden generation wins 2018 world cup
How Marcus bent has the gall to judge other footballers after his failure of a career is beyond me
Thats darren bent.
hes right...england had shite riff raff players like fat frank lampard, steven slippy gerrard, absolutely awful, over rated dross..
lampard was only good in a specific system but Gerard was good, both slightly overrated though
@@raphaelnasser7084 very over rated bro..passion merchant
It was full of egos, if they had the friendship the English players have now, they would have done better
yeah, for instance Raheem Sterling and Joe Gomez are forever giving each other Christmas cards
@@Matthew-bu7fg most of the English payers are pals, and it's unlikely for joe gomez to start ahead of maguire and stones in the euros
Why's that Darren cos u weren't in it? 😂😂😂😂😂
Golden generation, they never even made it to a semi final
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Clueless dribble.
Why is bent acting like he was a too level star??? Andy Carol done more for club and country than bent hahaha ffs
Errr? Bent scored 22 and 25 goals a season leading up to tournaments. Andy Carroll just warms the treatment table.
Andy carroll 248 prem appearances 54 goals
Bent 276 prem apperances 106 goals (excluding 122 championship appearances and 48 goals).
Carrolls output is shocking. Last 5 seasons 65 appearances , 4 goals. Illuminated? Dumbass take....
Having the best squad dosent matter at all Darren greece euro 2004 one of the worst squads in the tournament! Porto champions League poor squad. Portugal squad that won euro 2016 apart from Ronaldo average squad.
Every video I see if this woman she is really trying to flirt and get footballers attention. It's pretty pathetic tbh
Darren can talk for ages and say nothing.