wyst in D is crazy. literally learning how to properly use his abilities makes him WAY better. bombs are mostly used as a finisher or punisher against people and frenzy should be used to find your next target/find where someone went mid chase and one shot people with bombs. a lot of monsters in this video are ranked so unfairly because people dont know how to properly use their abilities. WYST is FAR from D tier and i easily server wipe with him on almost every map since i know how his abilities should be used. i dunno what wyst’s you’re facing because D is just so insane.
Well its becuase hes map dependent and rely on open maps and hallways hes also just slow and can be countered easily by dodging the gobble bomb and its not really hard to dodge them if you have a good pc and a good timing, he also trash at some maps like fnaf map the eclipse map and dungeon hes very map depend in these kind of maps becuase theres allot of places you can loop him
I think Baldi deserves to be higher and a lot of people don’t know his full potential but if you’re playing against a good baldi player, it’s essentially game over for you. Once he reaches his max speed or is like 90% there, you’re pretty much dead. You just continuously spam tapes and place notebooks as if they were traps and the boosts you get from these notebooks are really good. Baldi has a lot of strange attributes about him that don’t really interest much people, mostly his janky movement but he can be killer and lobby wipe easily. EXE deserves higher too. If your not managing your sprint against him, your going to get hit. While he has horrible stamina regain, his passive and his abilities allow him to make plays and I think hes very new player friendly as a straight forward but also reliable trapper and strategic character. Even on maps that aren’t good for him (which isn’t a lot), you can still win some games.
i know bro didn't just put the goat vapor into f tier. so for some reason, vapor has a hidden mechanic that is never ever explained to the player. you see, the time it takes for vapor to teleport is entirely dependent on how close he is to his red orb. if vapor is right ontop of the orb, teleporting is nearly instantly, while if he's nowhere near it teleporting will probably take about three seconds which is equivalent to three decades in gamer time. knowing how to utilize this will make getting to survivors with the spider skulls FAR easier. edit: BRO YOU PUT ROSEMARY *ABOVE* VAPOR?? like ok she's not bad, but she definitely isn't better than vapor lmao.
i'm sorry but that's just the way it is, vapor is just too weak compared to every other killer, i put rosemary above because she's far easier to use and expect better results without needing to do much. Do note that i ranked them off the average player, not what their peak is. i dont think vapor is the worst thing ever, but an average vapor is a free win imo
dont give vapor that much credit man, even with that knowledge new'ish players still can avoid vapor, other day some streamer who was just starting the game for the halloween event was outplaying a diamond vapor man, vapor isnt that good
You gotta keep in mind, it is literally impossible to solve Baldis notebooks on console in mobile while being chases, so I would have put him higher up on the list
This is my personal opinion from experience on some killers: Vapor - hes good dmg but so slow that u need to ambush people. Easily can be countered. For me D or C Rosemary - tbh all u do as her is spam shriek so like as long as u dont waste stamina durning it too much u will easily outrun all the time. For me its F or D ao oni - tbh for me is A or even S tier bcs even pro players Cannont outrun him. He can regenerate stamina with his vision and also use shapeshift mid chase to catch up to people. Hes a Nightmare killer for good players. Exe - About exe i would give him A too bcs yes hes map dependent but his traps can lock loops and many ppl in rooms which gives him free kills. Baldii - about baldii this almost feels like a crime that u put him so low. hes atleast A. If u kill few bad people and get them pick up books nobody will survive your speed bcs u will gain max speed early game. Mimic - for me solid B or just A. No way mimic would be S since hes much slower than ppl when not invisible u can easily outrun him. Hes only good on lonely players or when noob people gives him free dmg BUFF at start just like with baldii speed. But unlike mimic baldii with max speed will kill eveyrone equally fast while mimic will have to use invisibility every time to get someone atleast one hit
I more or less made a tierlist with the POTENTIAL of the killers, which is not very accurate but i had fun writing this, and if you bothered to click on the video you probably will like to read this, so hopefully this gives out a good read, it stops sounding awesome by the end because i lose things to say and only began writing because the first few killers had important topics i could bring up, which i did, but the rest was emptier and more direct, not having anything incredible to comment on baldi is A tier if not S, as of right now theres nothing you can do to stop him from killing unexperienced players and catching up to you within the 1 minute mark, the average baldi player can easily build up speed to get experienced players later on, unless baldi was nerfed 8 days before and i had no clue, which is unlikely since i do play the game a lil often, just my thoughts, though. as the game gets updated i believe the players will be able to partake more into teamwork than just surviving on their own, at which we will probably be able to counteract baldi's speed progression by helping players in need, his mortality rate to me is about 80% uncle sam, i believe is a B tier, it's a 25% chance i die to him in every game, because i sort of forget he gets up to player speed when he uses beat laydown, and if you're close enough to him when he begins to use the dance, theres no way hes losing that stun, otherwise, it's really easy to keep distance when you know where he is and you haven't been running around, about 5% of the mortality rate is just me getting telefragged by him when he leaves the dimension, there's nothing you can do if he's literally a stud away from you, certain death. springtrap, TO ME is an S tier since i personally have no idea how to outrun this guy, maybe a B (or less) tier to everyone else? he has too much stamina, and the ventilation error is also a speedboost, basically his two abilities are speedboosts along with his extremely high stamina, there's a lot of ways he can checkmate you, lost your stamina on the chase? phantom step before you regain stamina, or he just runs up to you because he still had some reserves, but he's really slow on the kill, its likely you'll get lucky and be one of the last persons he couldn't kill in time, but if you managed to be one of the first few to be locked on, its not a very big chance you'll play that round. his mortality rate to me is 95%, hard countered MX, S tier, really, but let me tell you a secret, his only highlight is bloodlust, means he only reveals players after killing someone, innocence really doesn't get you far with this guy, you need cunningness. as the last player, he won't be able to reveal you anymore, you're playing hide and seek, if he sees you and you run out of stamina before losing sight, you're done for. if you stay hidden for too long, he'll eventually stumble upon you, you need to get on the move when you think he isn't close, and if hiding is not an option due to map variation, try your best with the loops, eclipse's twin bridges allow for one, and the rock in the forest as well, but they aren't failproof. what i like so much about him is that you RELY on your surroundings unlike any other killer will make you do so, and you still have a second chance if being spotted if you try hard enough, albeit the methods, he has a reasonable 90% mortality rate with me, it's not the whole round that you're gonna be safe. forest king, A tier. hear me out, he gets a massive speed boost if someone gets trapped by the heads, but it isn't certain that you're going to get tagged by them. he's better off using these to turn escape plans into dead ends than a passive minion, avoiding loops since he's one of these killers you can outrun with ease, but his trick on the sleeve is the glitching blitz which he can use to nerf you with broken bones if you don't dodge around every once in a while, making every second in the chase worth paying attention, and a struggle. If you get broken bones, there's barely any chance you're getting out with your life, but if you dodge around too much, he'll catch up to you because you're wasting pace to not walk on a straight line, reducing the efficiency at which you run. his mortality rate on me is a decent 75%. WYST is a C tier to the average player, but with enough potential, he's onto the As with ease. as my main i did learn some nasty tricks with him, you can sacrifice your speed to tip toe without making step sounds, you can even run while doing this, i don't know if it's a bug or feature, but personally i find it really makes things fair, some monsters can't do this as they make noise instantly on movement, or it's somewhat nerfed, and doesn't make you outright invisible, once you're close enough to a flashlight or the blind eye they will be able to run, i use this to attack experienced players since they always stay at some corner trying to spot where you are between two ends so they can go somewhere else, even then it fails. the gameplay against him is a reverse game of hide and seek. find where he is, then run elsewhere, before it's too late, as getting within attack range is not an option, juking him is almost completely impossible, do keep in mind that im not the average player when i say this, 20% mortality rate with me, doesn't mean 0! i'd expect a lower ranking from you but you got a point whether you believe it or not, nilo got a massive A from me, it's unfortunate that every niloticus main doesn't know how to play with him, but his potential is just completely crazy, ye sit down by the camp matey, i've gort a tale to tell... when i did get an experienced niloticus, it was pillars. (i meant the map but this sounds really funny) we were running around until i needed to hide, rinse and repeat 7 times under a timer of 1:30, i was at about 40 hp with a consumed medkit despite all my efforts, i did survive but i believe i shouldn't, i had to juke him once or twice every time i was found, it wasn't nice. (it was i completely loved it) I could say, if a lot of niloticus players like that one chased me, a 85% mortality rate, but what we have is a dire 35% HONORABLE MENTION HONORABLE MENTION 9:53 mimic, C tier, completely garnular, he works the same way as WYST but less fun for the monster and more so for the player, there's not a lot i can talk about though, he doesn't got much for me to work with here. 35% mortality rate fuwatti, my second main, S tier. a fuwatti at it's peak is just impossible to play against, the silly rush serves as a secondary, MUST AVOID attack along with him simply walking up to you, i got on a crazy clutch with the boy and he was just bouncing by the walls with the rush, using them to stop himself before he got too far from me and lost chase, 65% mortality rate im done this lowk just became slop the first few things i wrote were way cooler than this i fell off thanks for readingRSODORPWEH4PUO932HPUREWTFDPGYDFP0BVC9BP0DVC7BCVB6
I can't stand mx being an annoying monster to face on, think about between (old) mx and (balanced) mx they are still the same no matter how different they are, not only he has 24 speed (survivor speed 23) but an ability to make it feel like a mobility tools is busted, and to make matter worse everyone plays him, i alway see people play mx not one not two but four of them, it's truly annoying when you think about it
Blade is defo biased. They nerfed nilo on the spot a day after his release. The first patch they had in mind would completely destroy him. They were going to give him 26 SPEED for 38 STAMINA
@@Kriggletonfacts bro, like I get that niloticus was way too fast but this practically kills him even if he’s still the fastest monster, mx simply does way better then niloticus since he has better stamina and a chance move that forces the survivor to waste 8 stamina or take a hit while niloticus simply requires you to dodge it or outrun him bc while the survivor isn’t as fast as niloticus, that doesn’t matter then they have better stamina then him. Stamina is more crucial than speed, just look at springtrap! He has one of the lowest speeds but does amazing bc low stamina drain and high stamina overall. Mx simply bs since he has good speed, a little to below average stamina and decent stamina drain but pow hop gives him the free means of a kill that no matter how skilled you are you can’t win
Idk how you finding that many MX' ses in one server. I see only one on like every 2 servers. Exe is the one who i see on every server, and he's super annoying to face. Also MX is balanced, and if you play as shit on him, you wont get even one kill. I speak for myself!
@@minicookie7348 ok first of all: i screwed up once in drainage, second: i can't lie...exe is scary, third: to deal with him you need to avoid line of sight or hide from him, but all i see people dropping like flies so fast that the timer is still 3:00 minutes
It annoys me so much when people rank ao oni low because of his lacking in deceiving players with shapeshift. I wonder why they never talk about him being used aggressively when its near impossible to outlast him (shapeshifted) in a chase, Unless you get stephano.
I personally have samsonite, Nilo and Baldi above MX. Edit: I do not consider MX better or worse than Nilo, Baldi or Sam. Only one of MX's biggest weaknesses most players fail to exploit. The ability to find hiding players. Especially in the endgame. Sam, Baldi and Nilo all have a much easier time against hiding survivors. Additionally, you need to be creative and actually use strategy when playing the 3 other killers. When done correctly they are arguably as effective as an MX. Even though MX dosent require much thinking and only skill
@@C.Program_079.EXE. cus Samson has almost zero ways to get experienced players due to his stuns being way to close range and him being slow. He has to pray he gets lucky to spawn on them
Im sorry but "Lurking fakade" Anyways good vid only gripe i have is baldi being C i think its more of a thing that depends on the player like compare a game of a newbie baldi player to a experienced one who how to move as him and how to effectively avoid jukes And also i think niloticus can be bumped down, bcs in a sense nilotics is also map reliant with the mist placement and all bcs if you dont have a survivor irradiated and you just lost track of them you are just finding no one 💀 id say niloticus is good when it comes to rushing down a survivor once hes found em but how you gonna rush anyone if theres no one too rush
make good points, and i can see why but i was basing it off my experience of course, i've never really seen baldi players and when i do they're pretty average. I'll take a little more note on nilo since when i face him he simply finds me and runs a train
Niloticus got killed in the first patch, like really think about how good and how versatile niloticus was before the patch. Like no one really used niloticus before his patch anyway so why did you kill him? Not to mention niloticus got nerfed on the first day of release but mx didn’t get nerfed until 2 whole months. 2 MONTHS, what are you doing blade? my suggestion of buffing niloticus is simply give him better stamina drain and better stamina overall and make it so he has exes passive where he can sniff out people because it’s a nightmare trying to find the last three survivors that are hiding away, like this is kind of mx situation where he can’t really find people that are hiding but his excuse is he can 2 tap people and once he finds someone, they are 100% dead. With niloticus you have a 30% chance of killing someone and a 0% chance if they know what they are doing, literally the counter to niloticus is stamina management and hiding and mx counter is just hiding but hiding usually won’t work on mx since when he kills someone he refreshes all of his cooldowns and knows where everyone is, like Really think how unfair it is that you know every trick in the book for every killer but you are guaranteed to die no matter your experience against mx, expands on to forest king and mimic kinda but mimic and king are more fair since you can still run away from them and while you won’t really win against them, it also does feel pretty fair but niloticus? as long as you know how to simply use your stamina he can never catch up to you
Baldi can be heavily map dependent also if you get zero people early game or are in a lobby of pros then your gonna be slow as hell and not be close to server wiping
Exe is a monster with a very strong zoning, and that is enough to be at least an A tier, superior to Samsonite that is completely useless against players who know well maps like Mansion, Drainage System, Eclipse, Joy of Creation and Baldi because they can loop him in parts where he does not spawn with his traversal ability, being only good in 4 maps, while Exe is only bad in Drainage System, Pillars and a little, Forest, I agree that MX should be among the best but it should be explained that this specific killer is very bad against few players, because if they hide they will make MX lose a lot of time, taking advantage of the only weakness he has which is vision, As for Fogborn, for me he should be in A tier, because if a good fogborn chases you, no matter how good you are, he will kill you for the speed and hitbox that he has, otherwise I think the Tier List is fine.
@@jmrandom4700 thank you for the feedback, this was based off my experience and the average player's skill, if i did list them based off of how good they can be, it'd be much more different. its a general go at it and i'll update it once inkfell releases
they should make Baldi skip more often, like in the real game but his travel speed should stay the same. His teleport movement is garbage because of how slow each ruler smack is
Ok the list is good but I highly disagree with Vapor and wysts placement I’m not saying Vapor is god tier but ranking them below rosemary is just diabolical 💀 I’ve seen a lot of vapors and rosemaries and literally every single time Vapor gets double the kills a rosemary would, since the average player has a harder time dealing with spider skulls and teleportation than playing a game of stamina preservation against rosemary. There’s a very good reason you see more vapors than rosemary even though rosemary is the monster you have equipped by default. I’d honestly switch Vapor and rosemaries places wyst should’ve been B tier at least. Yeah he’s very map dependent but the amount of maps he’s good on outweighs the amount he isn’t good on. He’s got great attack range so much so that if you enter it even once you’re almost guaranteed to die (and god forbid you enter it when he’s in frenzy) and has the best crowd control in the game. Early game he’s extremely good too since most players are prioritized on tasks which makes it easy to catch them off guard and get easy multi kills, but endgame not as much since by then the remaining players are done with tasks which means they’re just gonna try surviving (which is where I feel like the harsh ranking came from since wyst is actually really good early game on drainage system but falls flat once survivors don’t have to corner themself for every task) Yeah other than that I mostly agree with the list
after playing as wyst and against him more, i do believe he deserves a B tier. I was ranking him based off my experience and i died very rarely to him so that's what i placed him. I definitely do believe i misranked him severely and deserves a higher tier.
Vapors mostly get kills bc they play against either mobile players or other noobs, meanwhile Rose can keep with their speed and get some damage in without getting outran
@@CorvusTheMonke he’s ranking off personal experience AND the average player I’m using vapor rn cuz I’m tryna get every character to silver and in literally every game I kill at the very least half the server, most times more. maybe i just use it good but that’s a pretty good sign to me that the average player dies to Vapor more than rosemary since most of the time im lucky to even kill half the server while using rosemary
@@CorvusTheMonke you’d think that I’d face a server of good players at least once within 30+ games as Vapor (I have) Early game Vapor kills extremely fast even against good players since people are more preoccupied with tasks and not 100% focused on survival.
ngl forest king is underrated(he is better than mx in my opinion), he deserves more attention from pillar chase 2 fans. he can stun u pretty a while(almost 5 second from the changes log) and can ambush and snipe from far pretty silently and since he has no footstep(and as most of yall dc abt the noises that he make beside for chase music :sob:),his lurking facade also make ur screen red which is annoying and the only problem is her speed(20,atleast still can outrun broken bones human which took only 2 hit of him while walking to) and damages(25).
I like forest king but Mx imo is better due to how easy he is to use even tho forest king is much more fun to play agaisnt and is really good MX is just brain dead
Ao oni A tier, his oni vision makes it so that u can outstam people and his entire stats are already good 40 dmg 22 speed which is 1 lesses than survivor speed and 100 stamina making it so that if the survivor wastes 10-20 stamina he can easily out stam them now let’s talk about spaceshift, it is one of the best abilities if not the best it makes ao oni get 24 speed and being able to outstam and outrun people with spaceshift basically a free kill every spaceshift + if ao oni catches someone lacking he is dead basically
Vapor for me is a B- but Rosemary is beyond F tier she has terrible damage small hit box fast drain speed and slow regain speed vapor is a better ( in my opinion)
@@Giodagamer10first rosemary has more more strengths then vapor does second yes rosemary is pretty hard to play as but u have to learn her vapor has probably more weakness as well
MX, I think, is supposed to be a juggernaut type monster, where he uses pure speed and strength and doesn't rely on any fancy gimmicks, meaning that you're supposed to play him with only 2 braincells. I can assure you, when playin MX, my brain switches off
Why is being map dependant that detrimental to you? I mean of course it is detrimental but fogborn and exe are definitely not ao oni tier. Especially EXE(might be my main bias) Fogborn is absolutely cracked if you know how to place yourself around those corners, and exe has a good trap spot for ANY map, even that bad ones for him like campsite.
This is a very bad tier list but I’ll explain my points why Vapor is not F tier he’s d tier at best , a smart vapor can still succeed and he has Mole tech which can catch people off guard. But he does struggle with killing compent players Sam is NOT a teir he has ZERO chase potential while every other ambusher does his gameplay loop is domain leave door hopefully spawn on someone C tier Ao Oni is severely underrated but he does have struggles Ao oni can easily win chase with shapeshift chase into oni vison A teir all imo
Exe is heavily depending on maps like mansion or fnaf 3, because if you are exe and the maps that has long hallways you are screwed and easily lose a round and hopefully a unskilled player doesn't notice a traps and triggers it, i dare you to play exe on pillars to prove how b tier he is
@@DrCycle-jx6vz i have in fact played as him on pillars and won, just leave your traps near the buttons or vents and some people are bound to eventually step on them
Y'all need to be aware of your surroundings more, sure if MX targets you you prettys crewed. But if you use your ears, you can counter most killers by just knowing when its coming. Such as MX. MX is RLLY good don't get me wrong, definitely S tier, but niloticus is definitely worse.
MX will never be better than Forest King, what senseless tierlist is this? Now talking about my points, MX has one of the worst skills in the game, which is Jump. Jump is completely mistake based, that is, the survivor needs to make a mistake to receive the stun, and to be honest, unless you have a huge ping problem, anyone can counter the skill, and Dash is just bad, easily dodged and sometimes (most of the time) the dash doesn't push the survivor
The reason jump and charge are good aren’t because of how easy they are to avoid or if they can actually do damage it’s because they allow MX to easily out stamina a survivor or catch up with them
I have a level 61 wyst and i can tell you that he is around c tier, he relies on maps and is too slow. any decent survivor can avoid his bombs and press w to buy time
9:53 “Well well well don’t mind if I join in too” ahh Mimic💀💀💀
Best comment ngl
That mimic clip was so funny I accidentally crushed my right testicle while laughing.
tmi...
wyst in D is crazy. literally learning how to properly use his abilities makes him WAY better. bombs are mostly used as a finisher or punisher against people and frenzy should be used to find your next target/find where someone went mid chase and one shot people with bombs. a lot of monsters in this video are ranked so unfairly because people dont know how to properly use their abilities. WYST is FAR from D tier and i easily server wipe with him on almost every map since i know how his abilities should be used. i dunno what wyst’s you’re facing because D is just so insane.
Thats what im saying once you know how to use him he can become very op
This ranking was how hard they are to go up against, not how good they are to play.
Granted but he established the "average skill" condition
Well its becuase hes map dependent and rely on open maps and hallways hes also just slow and can be countered easily by dodging the gobble bomb and its not really hard to dodge them if you have a good pc and a good timing, he also trash at some maps like fnaf map the eclipse map and dungeon hes very map depend in these kind of maps becuase theres allot of places you can loop him
you can just loop hip easily
9:53 now THAT is some good game footage, that caught me off guard lmao
I think Baldi deserves to be higher and a lot of people don’t know his full potential but if you’re playing against a good baldi player, it’s essentially game over for you. Once he reaches his max speed or is like 90% there, you’re pretty much dead. You just continuously spam tapes and place notebooks as if they were traps and the boosts you get from these notebooks are really good. Baldi has a lot of strange attributes about him that don’t really interest much people, mostly his janky movement but he can be killer and lobby wipe easily.
EXE deserves higher too. If your not managing your sprint against him, your going to get hit. While he has horrible stamina regain, his passive and his abilities allow him to make plays and I think hes very new player friendly as a straight forward but also reliable trapper and strategic character. Even on maps that aren’t good for him (which isn’t a lot), you can still win some games.
I say wyst is one of the hardest monster to run from by his hitbox is so long it can hit you from miles
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i know bro didn't just put the goat vapor into f tier.
so for some reason, vapor has a hidden mechanic that is never ever explained to the player. you see, the time it takes for vapor to teleport is entirely dependent on how close he is to his red orb. if vapor is right ontop of the orb, teleporting is nearly instantly, while if he's nowhere near it teleporting will probably take about three seconds which is equivalent to three decades in gamer time. knowing how to utilize this will make getting to survivors with the spider skulls FAR easier.
edit: BRO YOU PUT ROSEMARY *ABOVE* VAPOR?? like ok she's not bad, but she definitely isn't better than vapor lmao.
i'm sorry but that's just the way it is, vapor is just too weak compared to every other killer, i put rosemary above because she's far easier to use and expect better results without needing to do much. Do note that i ranked them off the average player, not what their peak is. i dont think vapor is the worst thing ever, but an average vapor is a free win imo
vapor is terrible bro moves at 1 speed and has a janky teleport system when you can just play any other killer that does it 10x better
I mean yeah, Vapor is easy to verse but usually when a player dies it’s a mobile player struggling to hit the small ahh prompt
as a level 29 vapor he aint that good...
dont give vapor that much credit man, even with that knowledge new'ish players still can avoid vapor, other day some streamer who was just starting the game for the halloween event was outplaying a diamond vapor man, vapor isnt that good
You gotta keep in mind, it is literally impossible to solve Baldis notebooks on console in mobile while being chases, so I would have put him higher up on the list
As a Mimic main, I agree with your ranking :>
This is my personal opinion from experience on some killers:
Vapor - hes good dmg but so slow that u need to ambush people. Easily can be countered. For me D or C
Rosemary - tbh all u do as her is spam shriek so like as long as u dont waste stamina durning it too much u will easily outrun all the time. For me its F or D
ao oni - tbh for me is A or even S tier bcs even pro players Cannont outrun him. He can regenerate stamina with his vision and also use shapeshift mid chase to catch up to people. Hes a Nightmare killer for good players.
Exe - About exe i would give him A too bcs yes hes map dependent but his traps can lock loops and many ppl in rooms which gives him free kills.
Baldii - about baldii this almost feels like a crime that u put him so low. hes atleast A. If u kill few bad people and get them pick up books nobody will survive your speed bcs u will gain max speed early game.
Mimic - for me solid B or just A.
No way mimic would be S since hes much slower than ppl when not invisible u can easily outrun him. Hes only good on lonely players or when noob people gives him free dmg BUFF at start just like with baldii speed. But unlike mimic baldii with max speed will kill eveyrone equally fast while mimic will have to use invisibility every time to get someone atleast one hit
cant ambush with Vapors loud ahh
rosemary being harder to survive against than vapor is a sentence i never thought id hear
I more or less made a tierlist with the POTENTIAL of the killers, which is not very accurate but i had fun writing this, and if you bothered to click on the video you probably will like to read this, so hopefully this gives out a good read, it stops sounding awesome by the end because i lose things to say and only began writing because the first few killers had important topics i could bring up, which i did, but the rest was emptier and more direct, not having anything incredible to comment on
baldi is A tier if not S, as of right now theres nothing you can do to stop him from killing unexperienced players and catching up to you within the 1 minute mark, the average baldi player can easily build up speed to get experienced players later on, unless baldi was nerfed 8 days before and i had no clue, which is unlikely since i do play the game a lil often, just my thoughts, though. as the game gets updated i believe the players will be able to partake more into teamwork than just surviving on their own, at which we will probably be able to counteract baldi's speed progression by helping players in need, his mortality rate to me is about 80%
uncle sam, i believe is a B tier, it's a 25% chance i die to him in every game, because i sort of forget he gets up to player speed when he uses beat laydown, and if you're close enough to him when he begins to use the dance, theres no way hes losing that stun, otherwise, it's really easy to keep distance when you know where he is and you haven't been running around, about 5% of the mortality rate is just me getting telefragged by him when he leaves the dimension, there's nothing you can do if he's literally a stud away from you, certain death.
springtrap, TO ME is an S tier since i personally have no idea how to outrun this guy, maybe a B (or less) tier to everyone else? he has too much stamina, and the ventilation error is also a speedboost, basically his two abilities are speedboosts along with his extremely high stamina, there's a lot of ways he can checkmate you, lost your stamina on the chase? phantom step before you regain stamina, or he just runs up to you because he still had some reserves, but he's really slow on the kill, its likely you'll get lucky and be one of the last persons he couldn't kill in time, but if you managed to be one of the first few to be locked on, its not a very big chance you'll play that round. his mortality rate to me is 95%, hard countered
MX, S tier, really, but let me tell you a secret, his only highlight is bloodlust, means he only reveals players after killing someone, innocence really doesn't get you far with this guy, you need cunningness. as the last player, he won't be able to reveal you anymore, you're playing hide and seek, if he sees you and you run out of stamina before losing sight, you're done for. if you stay hidden for too long, he'll eventually stumble upon you, you need to get on the move when you think he isn't close, and if hiding is not an option due to map variation, try your best with the loops, eclipse's twin bridges allow for one, and the rock in the forest as well, but they aren't failproof. what i like so much about him is that you RELY on your surroundings unlike any other killer will make you do so, and you still have a second chance if being spotted if you try hard enough, albeit the methods, he has a reasonable 90% mortality rate with me, it's not the whole round that you're gonna be safe.
forest king, A tier. hear me out, he gets a massive speed boost if someone gets trapped by the heads, but it isn't certain that you're going to get tagged by them. he's better off using these to turn escape plans into dead ends than a passive minion, avoiding loops since he's one of these killers you can outrun with ease, but his trick on the sleeve is the glitching blitz which he can use to nerf you with broken bones if you don't dodge around every once in a while, making every second in the chase worth paying attention, and a struggle. If you get broken bones, there's barely any chance you're getting out with your life, but if you dodge around too much, he'll catch up to you because you're wasting pace to not walk on a straight line, reducing the efficiency at which you run. his mortality rate on me is a decent 75%.
WYST is a C tier to the average player, but with enough potential, he's onto the As with ease. as my main i did learn some nasty tricks with him, you can sacrifice your speed to tip toe without making step sounds, you can even run while doing this, i don't know if it's a bug or feature, but personally i find it really makes things fair, some monsters can't do this as they make noise instantly on movement, or it's somewhat nerfed, and doesn't make you outright invisible, once you're close enough to a flashlight or the blind eye they will be able to run, i use this to attack experienced players since they always stay at some corner trying to spot where you are between two ends so they can go somewhere else, even then it fails. the gameplay against him is a reverse game of hide and seek. find where he is, then run elsewhere, before it's too late, as getting within attack range is not an option, juking him is almost completely impossible, do keep in mind that im not the average player when i say this, 20% mortality rate with me, doesn't mean 0!
i'd expect a lower ranking from you but you got a point whether you believe it or not, nilo got a massive A from me, it's unfortunate that every niloticus main doesn't know how to play with him, but his potential is just completely crazy, ye sit down by the camp matey, i've gort a tale to tell... when i did get an experienced niloticus, it was pillars. (i meant the map but this sounds really funny) we were running around until i needed to hide, rinse and repeat 7 times under a timer of 1:30, i was at about 40 hp with a consumed medkit despite all my efforts, i did survive but i believe i shouldn't, i had to juke him once or twice every time i was found, it wasn't nice. (it was i completely loved it) I could say, if a lot of niloticus players like that one chased me, a 85% mortality rate, but what we have is a dire 35%
HONORABLE MENTION HONORABLE MENTION 9:53 mimic, C tier, completely garnular, he works the same way as WYST but less fun for the monster and more so for the player, there's not a lot i can talk about though, he doesn't got much for me to work with here. 35% mortality rate
fuwatti, my second main, S tier. a fuwatti at it's peak is just impossible to play against, the silly rush serves as a secondary, MUST AVOID attack along with him simply walking up to you, i got on a crazy clutch with the boy and he was just bouncing by the walls with the rush, using them to stop himself before he got too far from me and lost chase, 65% mortality rate im done this lowk just became slop the first few things i wrote were way cooler than this i fell off thanks for readingRSODORPWEH4PUO932HPUREWTFDPGYDFP0BVC9BP0DVC7BCVB6
2:37 i lobby wipe on any map with fogborn
I can't stand mx being an annoying monster to face on, think about between (old) mx and (balanced) mx they are still the same no matter how different they are, not only he has 24 speed (survivor speed 23) but an ability to make it feel like a mobility tools is busted, and to make matter worse everyone plays him, i alway see people play mx not one not two but four of them, it's truly annoying when you think about it
still remember when he did 85 damage...
Blade is defo biased. They nerfed nilo on the spot a day after his release. The first patch they had in mind would completely destroy him. They were going to give him 26 SPEED for 38 STAMINA
@@Kriggletonfacts bro, like I get that niloticus was way too fast but this practically kills him even if he’s still the fastest monster, mx simply does way better then niloticus since he has better stamina and a chance move that forces the survivor to waste 8 stamina or take a hit while niloticus simply requires you to dodge it or outrun him bc while the survivor isn’t as fast as niloticus, that doesn’t matter then they have better stamina then him. Stamina is more crucial than speed, just look at springtrap! He has one of the lowest speeds but does amazing bc low stamina drain and high stamina overall. Mx simply bs since he has good speed, a little to below average stamina and decent stamina drain but pow hop gives him the free means of a kill that no matter how skilled you are you can’t win
Idk how you finding that many MX' ses in one server. I see only one on like every 2 servers.
Exe is the one who i see on every server, and he's super annoying to face.
Also MX is balanced, and if you play as shit on him, you wont get even one kill. I speak for myself!
@@minicookie7348 ok first of all: i screwed up once in drainage, second: i can't lie...exe is scary, third: to deal with him you need to avoid line of sight or hide from him, but all i see people dropping like flies so fast that the timer is still 3:00 minutes
Fuwatti deserves S tier. U have never experienced true pain until u go up against a diamond fuwatti.
Not him saying vapour is weak because what I do is make them panick with the spider then just get the kill for they have no stamina left or idk 😐
this is the most accurate tier list honestly
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Baldi in C tier?
It annoys me so much when people rank ao oni low because of his lacking in deceiving players with shapeshift. I wonder why they never talk about him being used aggressively when its near impossible to outlast him (shapeshifted) in a chase, Unless you get stephano.
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I personally have samsonite, Nilo and Baldi above MX.
Edit: I do not consider MX better or worse than Nilo, Baldi or Sam. Only one of MX's biggest weaknesses most players fail to exploit. The ability to find hiding players. Especially in the endgame. Sam, Baldi and Nilo all have a much easier time against hiding survivors. Additionally, you need to be creative and actually use strategy when playing the 3 other killers. When done correctly they are arguably as effective as an MX. Even though MX dosent require much thinking and only skill
The fuck.. no no actually. I can get nilo but Samson and baldi above mx you gotta be on something
@VeupbePuev I honestly believe bad Baldi players simply have a skill issue. But why do you think Samson is beneath MX?
@@C.Program_079.EXE. cus Samson has almost zero ways to get experienced players due to his stuns being way to close range and him being slow. He has to pray he gets lucky to spawn on them
Im sorry but
"Lurking fakade"
Anyways good vid only gripe i have is baldi being C i think its more of a thing that depends on the player like compare a game of a newbie baldi player to a experienced one who how to move as him and how to effectively avoid jukes
And also i think niloticus can be bumped down, bcs in a sense nilotics is also map reliant with the mist placement and all bcs if you dont have a survivor irradiated and you just lost track of them you are just finding no one 💀 id say niloticus is good when it comes to rushing down a survivor once hes found em but how you gonna rush anyone if theres no one too rush
make good points, and i can see why but i was basing it off my experience of course, i've never really seen baldi players and when i do they're pretty average. I'll take a little more note on nilo since when i face him he simply finds me and runs a train
Niloticus got killed in the first patch, like really think about how good and how versatile niloticus was before the patch. Like no one really used niloticus before his patch anyway so why did you kill him? Not to mention niloticus got nerfed on the first day of release but mx didn’t get nerfed until 2 whole months. 2 MONTHS, what are you doing blade? my suggestion of buffing niloticus is simply give him better stamina drain and better stamina overall and make it so he has exes passive where he can sniff out people because it’s a nightmare trying to find the last three survivors that are hiding away, like this is kind of mx situation where he can’t really find people that are hiding but his excuse is he can 2 tap people and once he finds someone, they are 100% dead. With niloticus you have a 30% chance of killing someone and a 0% chance if they know what they are doing, literally the counter to niloticus is stamina management and hiding and mx counter is just hiding but hiding usually won’t work on mx since when he kills someone he refreshes all of his cooldowns and knows where everyone is, like Really think how unfair it is that you know every trick in the book for every killer but you are guaranteed to die no matter your experience against mx, expands on to forest king and mimic kinda but mimic and king are more fair since you can still run away from them and while you won’t really win against them, it also does feel pretty fair but niloticus? as long as you know how to simply use your stamina he can never catch up to you
3:57 that's me lol
dont let him rank again 😭🙏
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ultimate fogborn strat is teleporting on someone and getting free hits
endlag:
@@TheGreatPioneer-qo9th being faster than the player:
@@jcwade347 eh depends, you can out-stamina fogborn
but you're cooked once they activate stare
@@TheGreatPioneer-qo9thjust look at the ground 🗿
Why do baldi like that? He’s a solid s or a tier for me, I only had two losses with him
Baldi can be heavily map dependent also if you get zero people early game or are in a lobby of pros then your gonna be slow as hell and not be close to server wiping
pretty good list even tho i think oni is S Tier only having 1 weakness and exe A tier, his traps always work
Exe is a monster with a very strong zoning, and that is enough to be at least an A tier, superior to Samsonite that is completely useless against players who know well maps like Mansion, Drainage System, Eclipse, Joy of Creation and Baldi because they can loop him in parts where he does not spawn with his traversal ability, being only good in 4 maps, while Exe is only bad in Drainage System, Pillars and a little, Forest, I agree that MX should be among the best but it should be explained that this specific killer is very bad against few players, because if they hide they will make MX lose a lot of time, taking advantage of the only weakness he has which is vision, As for Fogborn, for me he should be in A tier, because if a good fogborn chases you, no matter how good you are, he will kill you for the speed and hitbox that he has, otherwise I think the Tier List is fine.
@@jmrandom4700 thank you for the feedback, this was based off my experience and the average player's skill, if i did list them based off of how good they can be, it'd be much more different. its a general go at it and i'll update it once inkfell releases
Exe is my main and trust me hes EXTREMELY map dependent, overall B tier seems right as hes actually supposed to be played strategically
WYST IN D? like i know it’s your opinion BUT D BRO D?
Wyst in D tier bro 💀
bro rosemary is so much worse 💀
they should make Baldi skip more often, like in the real game but his travel speed should stay the same. His teleport movement is garbage because of how slow each ruler smack is
Ok the list is good but I highly disagree with Vapor and wysts placement
I’m not saying Vapor is god tier but ranking them below rosemary is just diabolical 💀 I’ve seen a lot of vapors and rosemaries and literally every single time Vapor gets double the kills a rosemary would, since the average player has a harder time dealing with spider skulls and teleportation than playing a game of stamina preservation against rosemary. There’s a very good reason you see more vapors than rosemary even though rosemary is the monster you have equipped by default. I’d honestly switch Vapor and rosemaries places
wyst should’ve been B tier at least. Yeah he’s very map dependent but the amount of maps he’s good on outweighs the amount he isn’t good on. He’s got great attack range so much so that if you enter it even once you’re almost guaranteed to die (and god forbid you enter it when he’s in frenzy) and has the best crowd control in the game. Early game he’s extremely good too since most players are prioritized on tasks which makes it easy to catch them off guard and get easy multi kills, but endgame not as much since by then the remaining players are done with tasks which means they’re just gonna try surviving (which is where I feel like the harsh ranking came from since wyst is actually really good early game on drainage system but falls flat once survivors don’t have to corner themself for every task)
Yeah other than that I mostly agree with the list
after playing as wyst and against him more, i do believe he deserves a B tier. I was ranking him based off my experience and i died very rarely to him so that's what i placed him. I definitely do believe i misranked him severely and deserves a higher tier.
Vapors mostly get kills bc they play against either mobile players or other noobs, meanwhile Rose can keep with their speed and get some damage in without getting outran
@@CorvusTheMonke he’s ranking off personal experience AND the average player
I’m using vapor rn cuz I’m tryna get every character to silver and in literally every game I kill at the very least half the server, most times more. maybe i just use it good but that’s a pretty good sign to me that the average player dies to Vapor more than rosemary since most of the time im lucky to even kill half the server while using rosemary
@@ObesityCity Thats your personal experience, in which you probably face bad players
@@CorvusTheMonke you’d think that I’d face a server of good players at least once within 30+ games as Vapor (I have)
Early game Vapor kills extremely fast even against good players since people are more preoccupied with tasks and not 100% focused on survival.
ngl forest king is underrated(he is better than mx in my opinion), he deserves more attention from pillar chase 2 fans. he can stun u pretty a while(almost 5 second from the changes log) and can ambush and snipe from far pretty silently and since he has no footstep(and as most of yall dc abt the noises that he make beside for chase music :sob:),his lurking facade also make ur screen red which is annoying and the only problem is her speed(20,atleast still can outrun broken bones human which took only 2 hit of him while walking to) and damages(25).
He/she is good but not better then MX
@@CorvusTheMonke yeah, forest king is underrated but MX is still the best monster due to how stupidly good he is.
I like forest king but Mx imo is better due to how easy he is to use even tho forest king is much more fun to play agaisnt and is really good MX is just brain dead
Ao oni A tier, his oni vision makes it so that u can outstam people and his entire stats are already good 40 dmg 22 speed which is 1 lesses than survivor speed and 100 stamina making it so that if the survivor wastes 10-20 stamina he can easily out stam them now let’s talk about spaceshift, it is one of the best abilities if not the best it makes ao oni get 24 speed and being able to outstam and outrun people with spaceshift basically a free kill every spaceshift + if ao oni catches someone lacking he is dead basically
9:08 dead by daylight reference HOORAY!!
1:21 AINT NO WAY BRO SAID VAPOR IS WORSE THAN ROSEMARY 💀💀💀
He kinda is
Vapor for me is a B- but Rosemary is beyond F tier she has terrible damage small hit box fast drain speed and slow regain speed vapor is a better ( in my opinion)
Ok if you think rosemary is worse than f you just have an INSANE skill issue
@@Jupiter12th no rosemary isn’t terrible but the worst. Almost the whole community hates her
@@Giodagamer10first rosemary has more more strengths then vapor does second yes rosemary is pretty hard to play as but u have to learn her vapor has probably more weakness as well
Saying that rosemary is better then vapor is crazy
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you can outrun vapor but rosemary is impossible if she keep targeting you
@@qwe4307 you forget that vapor can use his skulls to teleport
Its based on his own experience
@@ACCE_worbut his massive downgrade is the speed he’s literally the slowest monster😭(besides Inkfell)
Quick question How do you get the game to be so bright? Can someone let me know
by disabling custom materials in-game in settings, should make your game a lot brighter
MX, I think, is supposed to be a juggernaut type monster, where he uses pure speed and strength and doesn't rely on any fancy gimmicks, meaning that you're supposed to play him with only 2 braincells. I can assure you, when playin MX, my brain switches off
Same
4:45 it aint your just bad with baldi i mean you get speed even if you dont do anyting i think overall hes a good monser in my opinion
I don’t think lycanpro has heard of the shotgun style for wyst
Why is being map dependant that detrimental to you? I mean of course it is detrimental but fogborn and exe are definitely not ao oni tier. Especially EXE(might be my main bias) Fogborn is absolutely cracked if you know how to place yourself around those corners, and exe has a good trap spot for ANY map, even that bad ones for him like campsite.
That foxy plush avatar was in my server 😮
As an OG I aggre with everything on this list except from mimic, i feel like he has the same problem with wyst
7:11 yippee
For my opinion springtrap should have infinite stamima cause his organs are crushed so he can't run out of breath
No, imma touch you if you make another suggestion
You should be banned from giving suggestions. Never cook again
He’s annoying enough don’t you think?
This is a very bad tier list but I’ll explain my points why
Vapor is not F tier he’s d tier at best , a smart vapor can still succeed and he has Mole tech which can catch people off guard. But he does struggle with killing compent players
Sam is NOT a teir he has ZERO chase potential while every other ambusher does his gameplay loop is domain leave door hopefully spawn on someone C tier
Ao Oni is severely underrated but he does have struggles Ao oni can easily win chase with shapeshift chase into oni vison A teir all imo
I find vapor to be in c or b tier and rosemary lower ik that vapor is ez to out run but rosemary her stamnia just goes to fast of
How to make maps like that?
He disabled custom materials
It’s in the settings
For a mobile player Vapor is way harder than anyone else. (Except for MX and a good EXE player)
As a mobile player I confirm that vapor is my worst nightmare
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i think exe could get moved up to a tier
honestly most in B tier can pass as A tier
Exe is heavily depending on maps like mansion or fnaf 3, because if you are exe and the maps that has long hallways you are screwed and easily lose a round and hopefully a unskilled player doesn't notice a traps and triggers it, i dare you to play exe on pillars to prove how b tier he is
@@DrCycle-jx6vz i have in fact played as him on pillars and won, just leave your traps near the buttons or vents and some people are bound to eventually step on them
Samonsite is not A tier he is very reliant on you being close to him, if you get your distance on him he should be no problem to survive low c tier.
Buld u have issues with wyst he’s insane I have him he’s so got
Aint no way bro put wyst in D tier. Wint no way bro put ai oni and fuwatti in b tier
Ao Oni is dependent on the survivors IQ, Fuwatti just requires you to move to the side
@@CorvusTheMonke every survivor has low iq
9:54 bro💀
Fogborn map dependent? To me the only map i would seem just a bit slightly worse is fnaf map and maybe eslipe
@@Expert-j2y fnaf, mansion, eclipse, pillars already makes half the maps so yeah its pretty map dependent 50/50
@@Daiyouseikii agree with fnaf and pillars and eslipe like he might struggle a but but it don’t mean he is map dependent
@@Expert-j2yI honestly think he does well on eclipse cause you can snipe ppl with foggy stare through literally cracks between rocks.
UG4 being with mx is reasonable 7:11
the MX glase is the only thing i dislike about this tier list
I dont think bro likes mx 😭 hes just busted af for no reason
It wasnt glaze, it was just straight facts 💀
Y'all need to be aware of your surroundings more, sure if MX targets you you prettys crewed. But if you use your ears, you can counter most killers by just knowing when its coming. Such as MX. MX is RLLY good don't get me wrong, definitely S tier, but niloticus is definitely worse.
MX is the easiest monster to get diamond and use for a reason
Ayo pc players can't see in the dark maps NGL my phone give me advantige
NOOOO wyst is in D he should be in A
MX will never be better than Forest King, what senseless tierlist is this?
Now talking about my points, MX has one of the worst skills in the game, which is Jump.
Jump is completely mistake based, that is, the survivor needs to make a mistake to receive the stun, and to be honest, unless you have a huge ping problem, anyone can counter the skill, and Dash is just bad, easily dodged and sometimes (most of the time) the dash doesn't push the survivor
The reason jump and charge are good aren’t because of how easy they are to avoid or if they can actually do damage it’s because they allow MX to easily out stamina a survivor or catch up with them
W maro tier
nah wyst should go in b tier
Nah hes A tier for sure ive got many server wipes extremely easily with him
I have a level 61 wyst and i can tell you that he is around c tier, he relies on maps and is too slow. any decent survivor can avoid his bombs and press w to buy time
Wyst id S tier ok shut up
nah bro sonicexe Z++++++++ tier
rashford tier
Sonic exe should be in a because he has 25 stamina@@lycanpro
Sonic exe isn't even in the game yet
i know bro not hating on wyst when bro was glazing MX afer the nerd
Even though MX got nerfed he is still insanely good. He’s the easiest monster to use and easiest monster to get to diamond for a reason