Our MOST INTENSE Sports Card Negotiation! (EP #7)
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2022
- In Episode #7 we travel across OREGON / WASHINGTON to see a GIGANTIC COLLECTION... the negotiation gets intense, can we bring home the cards?
** We have 40+ FULL EPISODES, they are ALL RIGHT HERE! **
EPISODE 1 • We BUY ALL the Sports ... TEXAS
EPISODE 2 • DO NOT Sell These Card... MONTANA
EPISODE 3 • Should you BUY JUNK WA... MONTANA
EPISODE 4 • SELL ALL HIS CARDS for... COLORADO
EPISODE 5 • Can we find RARE Sport... TEXAS
EPISODE 6 • Heartwarming Facebook ... WASHINGTON
EPISODE 7 • Our MOST INTENSE Sport... OREGON
EPISODE 8 • SELL YOUR ENTIRE eBAY ... WASHINGTON
EPISODE 9 • WE BOUGHT 6 MILLION SP... OKLAHOMA
EPISODE 10 • The MOST IMPORTANT CAR... OKLAHOMA
EPISODE 11 • The CASE FOR BUYING Sp... CALIFORNIA
EPISODE 12 • 40 YEAR OLD CARD COLLE... TEXAS
EPISODE 13 • FATHER LEAVES FAMILY I... WEST VA
EPISODE 14 • LET'S MAKE A DEAL! (EP... WEST VA
EPISODE 15 • He found MICHAEL JORDA... CALIFORNIA
EPISODE 16 • HE SURVIVED CANCER & O... CALIFORNIA
EPISODE 17 • Ultimate Score: $20K f... FLORIDA
EPISODE 18 • Does CANADA have the B... CANADA
EPISODE 19 • Is HE the BEST BOWMAN ... FLORIDA
EPISODE 20 • Crazy BASKETBALL CARD ... IDAHO
EPISODE 21 • LOOK WE WE FOUND in th... ARIZONA
EPISODE 22 • HE LIED! WHAT SHOULD W... TX/ID
EPISODE 23 • BEWARE! Craigslist DEA... WASHINGTON
EPISODE 24 • I Got BLINDSIDED! (EP24) NEVADA
EPISODE 25 • WE DESTROYED a 1952 MI... IDAHO
EPISODE 26 • WE TAKE OVER HIS CARD ... NEVADA
EPISODE 27 • FACEBOOK COLLECTION DE... TEXAS
EPISODE 28 • We NEEDED MORE MONEY f... TENNESSEE
EPISODE 29 • $50,000 STICKER SHOCK!... TEXAS
EPISODE 30 • We go ALL NIGHT with C... TEXAS
EPISODE 31 • From CARDS to CASTLE! ... TEXAS
EPISODE 32 • Epic $50,000 House & B... TEXAS
EPISODE 33 • We ANNOYED the SELLER!... TEXAS
EPISODE 34 • $15,000 Sports Card Ha... TEXAS
EPISODE 35 • CARDS HQ!!! with SPORT... GEORGIA
EPISODE 36 • CRAZY SITUATION in App... NORTH CAROLINA
EPISODE 37 • We find $11,000 collec... INDIANA
EPISODE 38 • CRAZIEST MEMORABILIA C... INDIANA
EPISODE 39 • $13,900 for GRADED CAR... KENTUCKY
EPISODE 40: • Buy ENTIRE ROOM or NOT... OHIO
EPISODE 41: • We offer $500,000 at G... SPOKANE
EPISODE 42: • NO CHOICE! I have to s... SPOKANE
EPISODE 43: • BUY ENTIRE SPORTS CARD... KENTUCKY - Розваги
Haha that was awesome to watch record from outside I hope you really enjoyed going through the cards and your welcome back anytime -joeys daughter Bailee
Hey Bailee, you family is awesome! And so kind. Your mom can cook! Thanks for being so hospitable! -(the camera guy)
I still talk about our trip…one of the more enjoyable weekends so far! Your family is incredible
Hi there. I have a 2020 Topps Opening Day “Diamond Autograph Relics” JD Martinez SSP #’d/15 (odds of pulling it are 1:127,000!!). The card contains actual dirt used during a game at Fenway Park, and it’s autographed; very tough to find.
Just listed it on eBay if your dad is interested….
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD yea he
That negotion was rough. He seemed like a really good dude and you handled yourself very well. You guys started really far apart and you had a lot of skin in the game before you even made your first offer. Well done sir, hopefully he'll sell you the "good stuff".
I’m surprised y’all kept that civil! It’s speaks volumes about the kind of people y’all are.
Yeah, Joey was amazing. We will be buds for a long time
Great episode! I have so many observations!
The first is that it seemed like one thing that was making negotiations tough was that Joey was having a hard time separating market value from dealer value. You both agreed that the one section of higher end cards had a market value of about $16k. However when you were offering $15k for everything he was saying that you would only be paying for the high end section and getting the rest for free. However, once you remove the percentage from the market value because you’re basically a dealer and need room to make money, you’re paying a lower amount for the higher end cards than the $16k and you’re paying a few grand for the rest. So, I think maybe he realized that in the end and you guys made a good deal for both of you.
I really liked how when you realized that you were way apart from each other in price, you broke it up into sections so that you could get on the same page. Once you both walked through each section Joey went from thinking everything had a market value of $50k to closer to $20k.
Finally, I disagree that a modern PSA 9 has the same value as a raw. I think the more commonly accepted idea is that PSA 8’s and raw are the same value. I know you showed an example, but I think funky things happen sometimes with sales. I just looked up the same Bobby Witt Jr. card you guys were discussing, and there was a raw and PSA 9 that sold on the same day. The raw sold for around $650 and the 9 sold for around $850. Especially with 2020 Bowman Chrome, I would never pay the same price for a raw as I would a 9. 2020 Bowman Chrome has so many centering issues it’s a tough set. You’re definitely taking a gamble buying raw. I think a lot of people buy raw with the hopes of getting it graded and having it come back a 10, but that’s highly unlikely with the 2020 Bowman Chrome set.
Keep up the great work you guys!
I think Joey struggles with what I and many other collectors struggle with. Emotional attachment. I've never sold a card myself. I've given away stuff that had not much of value to me but anything that I've been attached to I just have a hard time getting rid of it. That's quite an impressive collection he's built up. Good, fun episode!
We barely even scratched the surface of his collection. His eye for “good cards” was very impressive
Yep thats exactly what i thought as well something doesnt have to be worth a ton to be something u wont sell its different things for everyone
I’ve collected my whole life. I can’t even begin to comprehend trying to put a value on a collection like that. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable, but at the same time I’m a collector. I only know prices of stuff I collect and I’m looking for all the time. Can’t imagine trying to have a little knowledge on everything out there ….. when the sellers of these massive collections start pricing stuff they don’t understand the massive amount of time and effort it takes the potential buyer to even get 85% of value
No doubt! You nailed it Zach
Cards unfortunately are like pond shop prices unless u have 1 of kind cards but I'm thinking me personally I pay 65 to 70 % of the cards
This is by far my favourite thing to watch on cards, honestly can’t get enough of it, it builds my passion for cards even stronger each episode, love and appreciate the work you put in to give us, you don’t even need a huge production company just perfect the way it is!
Thank you Damien!!
Gr8 collection of cards Ty.. The negotiation was really brutal but worked out well for all involved.. The Prime Cuts signatures and relics collection is very very cool.. Thanks for taking us along.. Congrats on getting the deal done on this incredible collection Ty.. Well done guys.. Take care all..👍💕🔥⚾🤙
Thanks Jackie!!
I am new to the hobby just this past year, what a phenomenal video. I feel like I’m watching a TV show and learning a ton in the process. Appreciate everything you do.
I think Joey needs to setup at a decent sized show one weekend with his extra inventory to see how he'd do. Not sure if he'd get close to what he thinks stuff is worth or if he'd be way off. It's hard to know those things until you've really put in major work to sell a lot of stuff in that fashion.
The negotiations were my favorite part of this video and you could teach a class using just that part of the video. Very fair on both sides you both left thinking you did well plus when the negotiations started to get heated you both were able to diffuse and sidestep the issue coming back to it later. Both got a good deal and that’s good to see now-a-days I’m the hobby, well done.
This was my favorite episode by far. Really great to see two collectors work together to keep a deal fair and make the deal happen. Making that connection was the most important thing, he seemed to be a cool guy that loved the hobby and one day he might want to sell the rest and you'll be one of the first people he thinks of when he does because of this experience. Great job guys!
Great episode! Definitely the most interesting negotiation so far and even I was a little tense. Hahaha Always looks forward to the next episode. Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate that Reese!!
Fantastic guys. I can see the bond that built up just like that ! Both of you know the grind and it's not easy out here. Such a refreshing change from all these box openings/break channels to see something really interesting. I am looking forward to seeing channels like this in Australia where you get to see the personalities and stories behind the cards.The beating old school heart of the hobby. Well done again.
Thank you so much for tuning in!
When you bring in a reseller, the most powerful negotiating tool is to have your stuff priced. With documents to back your prices.
Great video. This was fun and Joey seems really awesome.
That was fantastic to watch. It helped that he really wanted to make the deal and negotiate too. I also liked how you refocused him on the different “stacks” and getting him to value them.
Easily will make at least double your money and when the graded stuff comes back, probably even more. Guarantee we see an update episode later on in the year showing some of the "hidden gems" that were "found" and probably graded that fetched a hefty return.
Thanks RAV…. Unfortunately outside of the Brady’s there wasn’t much to grade. But yes, the update videos will be fun
This was fantastic to watch and very well made- im jealous of that deal- i never understand why these guys just dont sell themselves- you can list a lot of cards instead of negotiating for 2 days
Thanks for tuning in!
Good video to show how proper negotiation should be done, kudos to both parties. There have been many times through the years, where buys have been clouded by the sellers emotional connection to their collection. Sometimes, this will create an unspoken animosity in the seller. Sadly, once that happens it is almost impossible to close a deal. When "price" is attached to the intrinsic emotional value the seller has for their collection. I can respect and understand their emotional connection, but there is no way I can pay added value for such a thing. Thanks for sharing.
I've been checking UA-cam for a new episode wondering when it would come and it hit today. YES! Great stuff. Amazing negotiation.
Usually every two weeks. But things sometimes things slow us down.
I think seeing the negotiation side is great cuz some of us never get to experience that or see it. Yes at times it can get uncomfortable but that's just the name of the game, as long as you're still being respectful and reasonable. It isn't for everyone and can be seen as "taboo", one way or another y'll met in the middle and both sides felt good with the deal. Most important part even if y'll didn't do a deal is building that relationship.
That’s good perspective! Thank you
The negotiable with Joey was super interesting and really helpful for me to understand. He is a totally good guy. I think it’s a big difference between a seller/ collector/ buyer and someone who is a pure collector.
I’m someone who is a pure collector so far and trying to get better at selling some cards at shows and eBay, but it can be hard to sell not just from an emotional attachment but from a point of view of what you think it’s worth because you paid for it, you’ve had it for a long time and you’ve worked a lot to organize and care for them. But from the buyer/ seller side I 100% understand the approach and offer. I really appreciated your descriptions and definition on market value and everything. I think it was a completely fair and good offer and I like how you kept engaging with him for a good deal. It was very helpful seeing his thought process and yours on all of this.
I hope you’re able to do another deal with him soon!!
Thanks for watching, and the input! This is one of those collections that we look back on, and we’re so happy we did not pay more than we did, some of these cards are still in our eBay store and have not sold, and as you know, the card prices are dropping like crazy. So you have to think about the future and your inventory if reselling.
Thank you guys for keeping the hobby alive.
Heck yeah! Thanks Wes!!!
I could feel the tension in the room. I’d love to see the Tom Brady’s! Go blue.
You’ll be seeing them in a Report Card video in a few weeks :-)
Any Brady is worth the work!
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD sounds great. Look forward to it
Incredible episode. You guys continue to amaze me with the variety. This one felt intense, but the respect that was being shown was refreshing. Thanks so much for your commitment!
Thank you! This once was definitely a bit different. Enjoyed it…glad you did a well!
Man, this was hard and sometimes uncomfortable to watch as you’re dealing with someone who thinks his collection is worth more than you do, but I can appreciate the episode. I’m glad you brought in the guilt factor. This is why I would never buy a collection.
Haha! Did you feel like I brought in the guilt factor?
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD my thinking was once he fed you and offered you a place to stay, that you were being guilted into buying.
Nice pick-up. I'm enjoying watching the negotiation process. Both parties were respectful and looked like they were enjoying the process.
Thanks James... Joey was great, glad it worked out with him.
Great episode and negotiation. Really great to look at a collection and see the pride the owner takes in it like Joey has with his collection.
Cheers guys
Legendary collection man $$$
Great video. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thank you for watching!!
Cool that you showed a lot of the negotiations for the cards. Good luck selling all of that!
Thank you Ken!
He was countering very well ... indeed very intense negotiations... glad both parties are happy in the end of it all.
For sure! Joey was sharp as a tack!
Incredible collection and some fierce negotiating! Looking forward to what you find in that haul!
Appreciate it!!!!
Hands down the best Sports Card Hobby content on the net!
Thank you Alex!!
That was insane but---- very very entertaining. I loved this. Thank you for posting this.....the art of the "deal" taken to a whole new level.
Ty that was fantastic work! I have negotiated 100s of deals in my day and you were masterful. So many excellent points in that discussion. Your outward temperament was so dang good. Way to be fair, transparent and honest which are a lost art these days. Awesome episode and so much for folks to consume. This is a must watch over and over! Here is the takeaway... always be a good person first and you always seem to nail it.
Thank you so much Mike!
Ty that was amazing to watch. I was sweating for you both. I love that you shared this with us all. So much better than American Pickers 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Wow! That's awesome, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks so much for tuning in DoubleD!
That negotiating was stressful to me and I had no skin in the game. Well done guys
Haha!
Awesome episode. This is why I am hooked. Thank you so much for sharing. Can’t wait for updates on this purchase.
Thank you so much Ken~
Really enjoyed this episode. You were realistic while not coming off like you were devaluing his cards. A lot of people could learn from the way you approach these negotiations. The first person that guy will call next time is you because you were fair and respectful.
Appreciate that! (And I agree, Romo was better)
It's one of my top favorite episodes. Great negotiations, and both sides were happy.
He drives a hard bargain understandably but in the end I think you guys walked away happy birthday you and him and probably gain a friend for many years to come thanks for sharing bubba
Yeah, Joey was a tough negotiator...but I think we both met at a # that satisfied us both.
Watching these negotiations are crazy. Understandable that time to sell is something you need to price into your offer, but time can also be a benefit as much as a detriment. I think with PSA prices coming back down any bulk sale of non graded cards that probably have mostly $1-$5, but include $20-$200 cards sprinkled in is a steal. My bet is you end up making 2-3x on this deal over time.
Well I don't know about 2-3x... but we should be able to piece together some profit.
Wooooo man I was starting to sweat with your negotiations. Congrats man. Prime cuts is my favorite set ever, especially 2004 2005.
Haha! Yeah, that was a tough one. Thanks for tuning in!
Surprised you didn’t pick up the Billy Ripken 😀 Heck of a long negotiation. Hope the collections works out for you! Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate it. :-) I'm still amazed how much people pay for that Billy Ripken card.
Love the videos! Very high quality production!
Excellent.
Thank you!!
That's the hardest part letting go special cards , but I just think I paid nothing for it and it's just cardboard with image and a auto.Make that $$$$$
No doubt.
Show is so great!!! Thanks for coming to the Northwest! I live in PWCC's backyard!
Oh yeah? Ever visit their HQ?
No, but accountant can get me in if I want to visit.@@CHASINGCARDBOARD
Always a great time! That was tense lol but wow what a inventory
No doubt! Thank you Jimmy!!
Great adventure and very interesting for sure. I want to see more of people’s Brady Collections 😊
We have some Brady collections in other episodes!
Great episode
Thank you!!
Love the visual insights during the negotiations! Great work
Thank you! Glad you noticed those, we’ve been working hard to integrate more of them
Rule #1 in this game:
Walk away if the seller is comping cards at 2x ebay value, no matter how much time and money you have invested getting there. Thank you for your content:)
Very true!
amazing episode. in a way this is like an episode of scared straight. i could see myself ending up in this situation. taking on inventory without moving anything and then having your expectations shattered when you realize you’re paying someone to put in the work of selling, which is what you refused to do the point that you find yourself in this mess.
I’m not into sport cards but this is still cool to watch
Thank you for tuning in!!
The emotional country music during the negotiation got me aha
Haha!!
Awesome video. David Fogel is my friend. Let’s go!!
:-)
GREAT SHOW ! ENJOY KNOWLEDGE OF YOU AND SELLER .
Love the negotiations...oh and the cards were cool too. 😎
Haha. Negotiations are fun to watch and learn.
Haha!!! Thanks Ed!
Can't get enough of Chasing Cardboard! Keep it up!
Appreciate it DD!
This is the channel that makes me enjoy the hobby please keep it up
Appreciate that!!!
Ran across your video, interesting spin on how you do these videos now a new subcriber
Thank you!!
Awesome episode! Thanks for letting us ride along in the chase. Cheers!
Absolutely! Appreciate you tuning in.
Yes..sometimes you have to overpay a bit...and I have done that....BUT, the relationship I garnered was WELL worth it over the years and due to that....I ALWAYS...AND I MEAN ALWAYS GOT THE FIRST CALL.....AND THE FIRST CALL.....IS EVERYTHING. Also, in the end....prices started to drop too. Ultimately, you made a good decision...
VERY well put... thanks for tuning in! Come back again!
Gotta love the hustle!! Great episode and channel. Love it
Thank you!!!
I honestly don't know if emotional attachment or him trying to get full value. I think what people don't understand is that some buyers who resell cards need to make profit too, and they're profit margins aren't usually that big unless that player is well desired unexpectedly.
Very very true!
Wow, what a long negotiation!
And that's the condense version! :-)
What a fantastic episode. Shows the real work required to do what you do. Keep chasing!
Yeah, you are right...this was one definitely showed some of the more difficult parts of the "job" ... appreciate it Grant!
Crazy how people will not take into consideration their own time to part some collections out to y'all. 60% of Market value is what any seller should expect when selling in vast bulk amounts. I just sold a fat lot of magic cards for 50% off of the low end market price and was happy with that. If I sold those 380 cards individually I'd have them for months... I'd have a lot more money. But no free time.
No doubt, you are definitely right in that regard. Joey was awesome....glad we could work something out with him!
Absolutely great content!
Awesome episode my man! Love the intense negotiations
When I saw those boxes sitting there in Josh’s garage I had a funny feeling it was going to be all junk wax! Fantastic watching the negotiating between you and Joey! I’m guessing it was pretty intense for a bit! Looks like you got a lot of awesome stuff! I’m late to catch this episode, it came out while I was at the National! 😁
Thanks Jim! Joey was outstanding...it was definitely awkward for a bit, but a healthy back-and-forth. How did you like the National?
The National was amazing! So many sweet cards and awesome people! Can’t wait for next year! 😆
Damn I just love this show!!!
Haha! Thank you so much!
Best show so far! That was a really great collection, and by the looks of it you only scratched the surface.
Thank you Justin!!
Fantastic
Meanwhile I just paid 19k for a psa 8 o pee chee 79 Gretzky. The nicest 8 I’ve ever seen but still
Incredible!
Bro you gotta buy one of those big fuel efficient super vans they sell nowadays. My buddy just got one for laying carpet and the shelving and ability to customize before buying would be perfect. It would be a significant cost upfront but probably save you $ in the long term. Awesome stuff! As always
Not a bad idea!
What a great video. I loved watching the negation. Keep up the great content.
Thank you 8B!
Man that was intense!
Thanks Toa!!!
I know Joey. He comes to the local shows and trades with my son. Great guy!!
Great video. Many guys just don’t understand how to sell and what it means to sell out a collection vs listing everything yourself.
Or…that “value” doesn’t mean much until you actually sell the card
Wow, what a great episode. So much to take away. Your self control and ability to stay gracious is awesome. I appreciate Joey too. Can't be easy to let those cards go.
Appreciate that Ken!
I think as collectors no matter what you collect its hard to to not get attached some more then others i buy and sell lots of different categories even tho im only 22 i have a lot of knowledge about certain areas sports cards vinyl film thats why when i seel stuff i choose stuff ik im not as attached to anymore and wait for the other stuff i pair down my collection at least twice a year still doesnt make it any easier but like you said in another episode sometimes the sentimental ettachment can be too much so you gotta decide do i sell now is this the best time for that market bc like most of us who do this now markets do go up and down alot so do i just hold on to it or just take the best price you can get now we all are trying to get good deals great video as well you guys do great work there are many channels similar to yours i watch bc im just a thriftamaniac at heart and i enjoy the discoveries. 👍😁
Any interest selling the prime cuts Don Mattingly? If so do you have an ebay or web store?
I love this channel. I have learned more in one week than I have in a year watching everything else. Thank you.
Thank you Tyler! What are you working on? Selling cards? Building a collection?
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I had a mid life crisis and have been building a collection since February. 😊 I added it to my childhood collection. It makes me happy, so that has been very important to me. I am learning more and more about the hobby through videos like these. Maybe someday I'll have a chance to run into a great collection like these and be able to purchase some great cards.
This was so satisfying to watch
Thank you!
Man, you should have spent at minimum 12 hours longer going over every single card there! Some constructive advice. The great buyers and dealers I know always say their biggest regrets are not taking more time to go through lots or collections, and that any time they found a raw grail from mays to musial to mantle, it was because they were extremely thorough with their pickings. Carry on lads, cheers from Colorado!
Next time I'll have to bring you along to help dig through it all. (Time is definitely a barrier with some of these. Travel time is EXPENSIVE)
Great episode. You guys put on a great show. Camera work is awesome. Thank you for the great content.
Really appreciate that Toby! (Matt is amazing with his camera!)
What a beautiful film , and in the end everybody’s happy ! For the love of cards 🤜🤛 greetings from Belgium , Europe 😁
Nice! Thanks for tuning in!! How is card community in Belgium?
Great channel! I bought a box of 1993 Topps series 1 from you guys and thanks for throwing your card in the box! Would have never known about this channel!
Thanks for the purchase! That 93 box came out of an upcoming episode from Tulsa. Did you pull any Jeters?
@@thepullsportscards Not yet. I have only opened one pack so far. That’s how my channel works 1 pack at a time. I have a crazy amount of patience 😂
@@thepullsportscards ua-cam.com/users/shortsG7TBB86PlMc?feature=share
Please breakdown the financials on this one. I’ve got to know the results of the sales.
It’s coming. Don’t worry :-)
"its important if you actually look"
so much passive aggressiveness lmao
Haha! Joey was awesome... :-)
Man. This series is great. Such high quality. Deserves a bigger platform/audience. Love all the content you put out. Always look forward to the next upload.
I know you said you’d be doing some recapping in the future. Would be nice to see a little more of the cards after the deal is done. Maybe a separate/follow up video right after uploading the episode etc.
Great feedback! Thanks for the support.
I can’t believe you got the deal done without getting into a argument 🤯! Lol!
That negotiation was awesome!
Thank you Paul!
amazing video again. Just a silly question from my side. Why people holding so much inventory do not such make a drop off to COMC like market place?
Thank you Chris! COMC is something I’ve used in the past, but some folks enjoy the process themselves
When he stated a lot were his doubles I knew you'd get closer to your price. You wanted the table and he was going to make a bigger move. My guess is you'll clear the most on the Bradys. Terrific video. People will want to sell to you because of your transparency.
Thanks Randy… in an upcoming video I’ll breakdown the Brady’s…
Who didn't see that coming....I'm not giving a bulk discount on TB12 either.
You know you got a deal here. In the long run you will triple your money. Easily.
Oh yeah? What makes you think that?
(PS…I’ve sold much of it…for less than I expected)
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD If you sold quickly for a lesser profit than if you would have held, I get that. That's your business model . High volume quick sell. But we all know that guy lost money. I guess everytime I hear a collection buyer say "you have to think about how much my time is worth" then discount the price when it was already below market value, just rubs me the wrong way. Basically its saying the seller is paying your labor for you to make profit off the collection you already get at a huge discount. But, if it works it works. Keep on doing you.
@@1973cableguy No, “everyone” does NOT think that…because the only guy who actually made money on the episode…was Joey.
When people just assume you snap your fingers and you get $1 per card….they are wrong. It doesn’t work that way.
@@1973cableguy well said