If they nerf it, I hope they nerf it slightly (for example increase the price to 1400-1500$ would be fair in my opinion). They could reduce the cost of Famas/M4 by 100$, too. Then you would have to think twice about buying an UMP instead of an Famas or saving for an M4 with Nades next round.
Hey man, look at this spreadsheet (docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jN9fu-uNKFh6GxWv5rlPl4oRxZtucwQbyh90frQGFPU/edit?usp=sharing), because in it i have made many changes that affect many weapons, including the least used ones and tells me what do you think
Prins van Oranje In that case, the price of every other gun would fall proportionately. If a gun was made so OP that it made the ak and m4 obsolete, any raise in price of that gun would be met with a decrease in ak and m4 price decrease.
Gunther because you shouldnt fire it on long or medium range... its for close quarters, like dust 2 holding a corner at a door.. then its really deadly,better than rifles and smgs
the last sentence is the funniest fact. I think i will try out the "no eco strategy" with my team. Imagine if you have 2000-2500$ and you obviously want to eco. Why not buy an ump, 650$ kevlar and a bunch of nades? The chances of winning are almost as high as with normal rifles.
+kvmlsky Literally no-one says that unless it's in match-making or casual servers.. Plus, it's only better in the sense of armor penetration and accurate range (and that's only because of the scope, making it slower than just using an AK), the reload time is slower, the movement speed is slower and the base damage is less.
Is it just me or does youtube fuck up crosshairs at ≤ 480p? They seem to stick and i don't know why they dont have a system to figure out what the crosshair looks like and make it a static image (along with other near constant on screen things) Would this work/be possible?
like this comment : not everyone can/chooses to watch at high quality. I watch at 480p myself because good luck running 720p or above while two tvs are using Netflix on a 15mb connection
In real life, the UMP 45 has a larger caliber (45 cal) in comparison to other SMGs (9mm or 40 cal). If the UMP 45 is the only 45 cal SMG in the game, then it's superiority is reasonable.
CS Go does not even care about realism a 9mm (g18) does less damage than a 9mm(p250), which does less damage than another 9mm(tec9), which does more damage than a 5.56
the problem might be that dust 2 does not have such flaws as those 2 had. Sure, it can be improved. For example, bring back the wooden doors, except mid since it would be OP for Ts.
dust2 is one of the most balanced maps , any slight changes might destroy the map. like for example an alternative way to enter ct spawn. Do you know this little door at the wall when you jump down from short to ct spawn? there used to be a room in css . there was even a ladder on upper mid ( the little corner left after suicide ) which lead to a room like on cobblestone this camping spot but only 1 way up and down lol. changes like this will destroy the map
Either just raise the price of the UMP or buff all other SMGs. Don't nerf an entire weapon class. The only heavy class weapon we ever see is the Mag-7, which is totally hit or miss, and we only ever see 3 rifles normally with an occasional fourth. Why can't we get more viable guns to spice things up?
Because there are way to little guns in cs go to choose from that are also good, there are either buy, echo or shit guns, this is mostly because of the economy sistem, its not like call of duty or battlefield where there is a shit tons of guns and you can choose from them anytime, which makes the players focus more in the more effective weapons
The game is already painfully restrictive and nearly impossible to get into, you'd think valve would want to make changes so new players would actually want to get into csgo. Instead, every change to this game has done nothing but make it harder or more restrictive. At this point they may as well remove the entire class of SMGs and heavy weapons instead of beating around the bush.
Matt DuGuay smg and heavy are great for echo, if they wont be, the pistol round will determinate the entire match, as there will not be an easier way to make a lot of money in the game.
Pistol round already guarantees who wins the first 2-3 rounds, so it isn't like that's an issue. Not to mention SMGs as they are are only good against people with on armor or who cannot fight back. All the SMGs in the game are beyond useless, so valve should either buff them or remove them entirely.
@@irunasoft i played it some time ago. you can prob run it on a low end pc. i got a 2080 and i7 with 8 gigs of ram and got around 200-300 fps without vsync on medium to high settings. you'll prob get a good 60+ on medium on a low end pc. i like it but since i'm kind of leaving fps games behind i dont think i can really detail to you what it's like playing it.
I don't play CS:GO, but I would have been using the UMP-45 from the very beginning. It has been my favourite SMG since MW2, and thanks to it I become very good at CQB, while before I was only a decent sniper, and I use it in every shooter I play. I love the type of analysis you do. UA-cam is full of easy gameplay videos.
Sm00th TV the auto snipers could use a bit of a boost, and with the sawed off, but all the other shotguns are insane still. On my smurf, I out sniped an awp long with my nova. The novas range and power are both insane, the xm has crazy range, and the mag is just an all around pretty solid shotty
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ Just pointing it out, because it definitly looks like you were supporting the original comment (which did say that) So be cautious of what you say online. Thanks for clearing it up tho
I found your channel a week ago, and I absolutely love it. I am Quiet new in cs and i appreciate every little bit of help to understand csgo better... Hope you gain millions oft subs :) Greetings and thanks from Germany :)
UMP doesn't seem that OP to me. I could see it getting a little more expensive, but then again I like the fact it's cheap, throwing off CTs. I prefer the MAC-10 over all other SMGs though
So because it was frequently used it's op? it's this thinking that lead to the run and gun update. you saw twice as many ak's, does than mean ak is op pls nerf? no,
Kettle Ak is OP though. Compared to what galil or mp7 or p90 or a negev offers for their price, ak is op. But you cant balance all weapons. This is counter strike not battlefield, ak has to be op.
Who called it overpowered? He asked a question, then stated facts, he never once said "This gun is overpowered.", also the SMGs were /always/ about "run-and-gun", all the way back to 1.6, they just made it more viable, which I personally don't like.
@@neppu02 Not by a lot, but it now has damage drop off at shorter ranges so you can't duel someone who has an AK at mid-to long ranges and actually do similar damage. UMP is still a good SMG tho.
@@neppu02 Like standard SMG range. So I'd say to get the most out of it, places like B site Mirage, rushing Tunnels on Dust 2. It still can do some mid range fights, but it gets too risky when playing higher in the ranks.
I knew this was coming. The UMP has been in my buy binds from 2016, I consider myself a true pioneer. On a serious note, the lack of ecos and increased number of partial buys must be because of the loss bonus update, right? Not sure if it was mentioned in the video or not, I might miss some things since English is not my first language.
Like i have a fuckin helmet and vest and a fuckin ak but i get owned by a fucking ump even tho i aimed f9r te head And for some reason it kill me faster evm tho i fired first
I feel like an 1800 price tag would be fair as now you need 3 kills to get your money back and if you are low on money you cant just choose the best weapon you'd be forced to use a less optimal smg
I'm not into CSGO a lot but I like your videos regardless. I do wonder though why does everything popular that's cheaper than an AK or M4 has to be nerfed/be imbalanced? Is rifling the whole end goal of CSGO?
beaver-tails64 69 If you hate Russia (no idea why you would, Marussia B2, yo), then what do you think spamming is going to solve for you? Do everyone a favor and take your agressions out elsewhere.
I propose a 1500$ price tag, 450$ kill reward, drastically increased first shot precision and tighter burst potential with a more complex (mostly horizontal) and scattered spray pattern. Also, no run'n'gun. Running accuracy and precision are in line with "proper rifles".
I've used UMP over say M4 or AK many many times in the last year simply because it gives you more movespeed and you keep the accuracy, while in close quarters it feels to be as effective on firepower than a rifle would be. Then again bizon is not really valued either, but I can still win many rifle battles with it if the ranges are close because of the mobility. I'm glad proplayers have finally noticed UMP is good because of the mobility it gives (just like fiveseven) but still packs a punch to frag that one clumsy rifle opponent.
Been using it forever b/c I always felt it was more like a rifle with an easy spray pattern and lower average damage. Now that I see the stats it makes sense.
ive loved using the ump over ANY gun, not counting the awp or scout for a couple of years now, its always been my favorite weapon :) Spray and pray shes 18 ;D
Doesn't make much sense that the UMP-45 is considered better against armor vs. the P90, which was created to counter armor, as it is a PDW, rather than an SMG.
45. Auto is an absolute manstopper if you dont have armor. The bullet is big and heavy. That means that the muzzle velocity is small at about 300 meters a second( subsonic) so any armor will stop it with ease. But did i say that its heavy? That means that it doesnt slow down too fast in flight. The damage and energy drop off is too big in cs. The ump should be high damage extremely low penetration high stoppingpower low dropoff weapon.
Not sure if people will hate this but i usually buy almost every round (unless my team is OK and i can buy rifles and nades) UMP-45 + Kevlar and a flash or a granade, or smoke + f./incendiary g/g. so i get a lot of money and + the win or lose of the round ill sill end up whit a lot of money, enough to drop good guns or more UMP's to the team when they dont have money So basically im the bank of the team or a piggy full of money for my team. (and also buying UMP's makes my corpse less important, since the enemies will have submachineguns to only rush they wont use my UMP... oh and btw, this works at least in Silver because everyone is terrible and having a 1200$ rifle is really good to spray a noob whit that gun and then steal an ak/m4)
UMP is like Pentium G4560
Smiltis Cheap and strong :]
- CSGO DracoValius - in some cases but it's still weak
kiran seehra But its like only a little bit weaker than a i3 6100 for half the price.
Smiltis but still beaten by a proper core i3
Tnx for the pin m8
Damnit Philip now valve is gonna Nerf it
If they nerf it, I hope they nerf it slightly (for example increase the price to 1400-1500$ would be fair in my opinion).
They could reduce the cost of Famas/M4 by 100$, too. Then you would have to think twice about buying an UMP instead of an Famas or saving for an M4 with Nades next round.
that's reasonably good idea
Hey man, look at this spreadsheet (docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jN9fu-uNKFh6GxWv5rlPl4oRxZtucwQbyh90frQGFPU/edit?usp=sharing), because in it i have made many changes that affect many weapons, including the least used ones and tells me what do you think
VorpalWarrior was just thinking that they'd do that now :(
Price + (1200>1500)
Just up the cost to 1700 or 1800, ez fix because there is nothing wrong with the gun itself, it's just too good for what it costs
Tru that
i agreed
I would go up to 2000, its a bit better than the mp7.
thegamescastnl There is nothing broken. So no need to fix.
agr33 m8
man, you're like the kid in class that reminds the teacher they have to nerf the ump or something
HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKED UR COMMENT IN 3 YEARS?!?
No phill, whyyyyyy. Rip ump
This guy finally getting some likes
Because it makes no sense, there is no kid that reminds a teacher to nerf the ump, it literally makes no sense whatsoever.
@@bobsempletank1222 welcome to the joke. We're glad you made it
conspiracy: valve makes new weapons OP to make their skin prices jump after release and then nerfs them after a month or so of skin revenue.
Presto!!
That’s what I thought about the sg!!!
Jake Kelly Kelly cus then the community would be mad
@@john.glasscock So that they can make money on other guns when they are buffed (relative to the unbuffed guns). If this is true anyway.
Prins van Oranje In that case, the price of every other gun would fall proportionately. If a gun was made so OP that it made the ak and m4 obsolete, any raise in price of that gun would be met with a decrease in ak and m4 price decrease.
they should buff the CZ
Gunther why ? its extremly good when you have good aim
dude the bullets are fucking flying everywhere
Gunther because you shouldnt fire it on long or medium range... its for close quarters, like dust 2 holding a corner at a door.. then its really deadly,better than rifles and smgs
UberTiger1 yeah sure
TakingThisWay it's true
2:20 the secret sign of Silver 2
Oh no this
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Lol!!
Overpowered UMP45? What is this, MW2?
MW3 i think.
@Deadpoppin yes
@@cishn6271 nah it's actually mw2
css
Hujik senpai both actually
the last sentence is the funniest fact. I think i will try out the "no eco strategy" with my team. Imagine if you have 2000-2500$ and you obviously want to eco. Why not buy an ump, 650$ kevlar and a bunch of nades? The chances of winning are almost as high as with normal rifles.
Joł :)
I think the Armour no helmet with p250 better
@@andyc9902 thats like full eco with passive play only, completely different thing
sg553 is new ak
9enius only better xd, still gay tho
Sg is the best gun in the game
If the SG553 didn't have a scope everyone would be using it.
Because aiming down sights is "gay and cod gun"
you dont have to use the scope. But at far range is defently helpfull. If there would be no scope the gun would be useless.
+kvmlsky Literally no-one says that unless it's in match-making or casual servers.. Plus, it's only better in the sense of armor penetration and accurate range (and that's only because of the scope, making it slower than just using an AK), the reload time is slower, the movement speed is slower and the base damage is less.
Is it just me or does youtube fuck up crosshairs at ≤ 480p? They seem to stick and i don't know why they dont have a system to figure out what the crosshair looks like and make it a static image (along with other near constant on screen things) Would this work/be possible?
jinxmaster1 omg you got him to comment hey UA-cam
the real question is, why the fuck are you on 480p
like this comment : not everyone can/chooses to watch at high quality. I watch at 480p myself because good luck running 720p or above while two tvs are using Netflix on a 15mb connection
6mb connection here... Fuck third world
Guido AZ bruh 6mb is good some places get under 1mb and get 300-500kbs
In real life, the UMP 45 has a larger caliber (45 cal) in comparison to other SMGs (9mm or 40 cal). If the UMP 45 is the only 45 cal SMG in the game, then it's superiority is reasonable.
but not its price
but as we all know a 9mm round out of a p250 is better at penetrating armor than a 5.56 by 45 round xD
CS Go does not even care about realism
a 9mm (g18) does less damage than a 9mm(p250), which does less damage than another 9mm(tec9), which does more damage than a 5.56
That's not at ALL how ballistics work.
The P90 and MP7 calibers are specifically intended to pierce through armor so they should be far more effective than the UMP against armor.
Of course it is overpowered in MW2...
UMP with FMJ, stopping power, ninja, and sleight of hand = GGEZ
it was insane at the start of Battlefield 3 .
mp-7 too lmao
mustif1 The Noshar Canals memories :^)
CZ-75Auto was OP in Black Ops 1.
*Will you make remake of Dust 2 as you did with Inferno and Nuke?*
i fucking hope man...
the problem might be that dust 2 does not have such flaws as those 2 had. Sure, it can be improved. For example, bring back the wooden doors, except mid since it would be OP for Ts.
Yeah, that's thruth... I think, that they (Valve) will only improve graphic and maybe some small changes.. :)
dust2 is one of the most balanced maps , any slight changes might destroy the map. like for example an alternative way to enter ct spawn. Do you know this little door at the wall when you jump down from short to ct spawn? there used to be a room in css . there was even a ladder on upper mid ( the little corner left after suicide ) which lead to a room like on cobblestone this camping spot but only 1 way up and down lol. changes like this will destroy the map
#fixcsgo twitter - /g4v3r
#fixcsgo twitter - /g4v3r
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#fixcsgo twitter - /g4v3r
Either just raise the price of the UMP or buff all other SMGs. Don't nerf an entire weapon class. The only heavy class weapon we ever see is the Mag-7, which is totally hit or miss, and we only ever see 3 rifles normally with an occasional fourth. Why can't we get more viable guns to spice things up?
Because there are way to little guns in cs go to choose from that are also good, there are either buy, echo or shit guns, this is mostly because of the economy sistem, its not like call of duty or battlefield where there is a shit tons of guns and you can choose from them anytime, which makes the players focus more in the more effective weapons
The game is already painfully restrictive and nearly impossible to get into, you'd think valve would want to make changes so new players would actually want to get into csgo. Instead, every change to this game has done nothing but make it harder or more restrictive. At this point they may as well remove the entire class of SMGs and heavy weapons instead of beating around the bush.
Matt DuGuay smg and heavy are great for echo, if they wont be, the pistol round will determinate the entire match, as there will not be an easier way to make a lot of money in the game.
Pistol round already guarantees who wins the first 2-3 rounds, so it isn't like that's an issue. Not to mention SMGs as they are are only good against people with on armor or who cannot fight back. All the SMGs in the game are beyond useless, so valve should either buff them or remove them entirely.
Matt DuGuay not really, if you know how to use smg they are great because of their great firerates.
i dont know. i dont even play csgo but the little *thk-thk when you equip it or reload it is nice :)
Also the PARARARARARAN when shooting
Csgo looks awesome, it's like the fps i always dream to play.
i don't have pc but i hope someday i can play it at 60fps
@@irunasoft i played it some time ago. you can prob run it on a low end pc. i got a 2080 and i7 with 8 gigs of ram and got around 200-300 fps without vsync on medium to high settings. you'll prob get a good 60+ on medium on a low end pc. i like it but since i'm kind of leaving fps games behind i dont think i can really detail to you what it's like playing it.
@@irunasoft it can run on any potato xD i used to have a really bad pc with integrated graphics and still ran in 60 fps on low
The UMP alone took me from silver to (almost) gold in mid 2016. How I miss those days.
So silver to silver?
Time to re-make this video since the UMP-45 just got a nerf..
Half Way Lambda nerf*
wb now
Went from the full eco rifle to absolute garbage now.
@@markhenley3097 i know right
@@markhenley3097 i use MP9
the cz kill award is $100 tho not $300
3kliksphilip Oh, right. Also thanks to you i'll be using ump more now...
i'd like to use this opportunity to tell philip that i love him.
i love you.
#fixcsgo @g4v3r
#fixcsgo @g4v3r
yes, because its a German weapon
Franz Mustermann hey brother
haha mois Wehrmacht denn noch Nazi Witze?
All Russian weapons: Haha, you are nothing.
@@RedRender666 deutsche Waffen beste
@@sums3166 No no. Russian weapons will shoot even under water.
*YOU ARE MISTAKEN*
woohohohoh
You are Russian.
2:36
or
2:37 *STAKEN*
its not OP, its your aim that counts.
it is op if it is overused
Laima Pastore ak47, M4, awp overpowered confirmed by this idiot
Laima Pastore that makes 0 sense
Laima Pastore m4 has 98 in 4 so m4 is op and haves like 0 accuracy
@@laimapastore9357 I think I understand what you mean to say. Overused in class* makes it overpowered.
#fixcsgo @g4v3r
Let's make our favorite game great again!
What the hell is going on in your comments section Phillip?
Habiyeru ikr. who is g4v3r?
Habiyeru It's a fucking russian youtuber that said to everybody started to saying this :v
spamming some hashtags in youtube videos won't change anything, faking rassian kiddos
Idiots find these kind of videos some how lmao
@@deadendassassin...7736 lol
I love how you put in a clip of Bardolf being slightly wrong about a stat on air only so you could assert dominance over him xD
build in germany, what do you expect!?
kappa
123kothaufen You know Germans always make good stuff -Shamwow guy
Microsoft Regime Like showers?
Of course
123kothaufen *cough* A7V during WW1 *cough*
G3, StG-44, MP5 and MP7, HK416 (M416 in many games) all that good shit
The Galil should be buffed a bit
I don't play CS:GO, but I would have been using the UMP-45 from the very beginning. It has been my favourite SMG since MW2, and thanks to it I become very good at CQB, while before I was only a decent sniper, and I use it in every shooter I play.
I love the type of analysis you do. UA-cam is full of easy gameplay videos.
they need to buff the autosnipers and shotguns, idk what valve did to those guns but they suck.
Someone who actually recognizes the autosnipers are not OP. have an internet cookie 🍪
i have disabled cookies unfortunately
Sm00th TV the auto snipers could use a bit of a boost, and with the sawed off, but all the other shotguns are insane still. On my smurf, I out sniped an awp long with my nova. The novas range and power are both insane, the xm has crazy range, and the mag is just an all around pretty solid shotty
yeah i agree the sawed off is the one that needs help, the other shotguns are ok
I never trust shotguns cuz they always give me 90+ damage but less than 100 :(
I still can't aim with it for shite.
first half of the recoil is pretty much straight down, the rest is a bit to the right. Really you only have yourself to blame.
I prefer the Bizon.
Bizon takes like 900 shots to kill anyone.
At least I can get a 40/20 K/D with the Bizon on Cobblestone, that's something.
I can 50/5 with M249 in silver but that doesn't mean it's a good gun.
Now that everyone uses any other SMG, I'm hoping they rollback at least some of the nerf on this wonderful weapon.
agree
I mean, the ump45 is a modernized mp5, so it stands to reason it might be stronk. but no longer, rip
Ump is not modernized mp5.. Not even close.
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ It does not matter, UMP and MP5 are two different guns. Not even same operation principle.
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ Just because it was made to replace a weapon, doesn't mean it's a modernized version of said weapon.
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ Just pointing it out, because it definitly looks like you were supporting the original comment (which did say that)
So be cautious of what you say online.
Thanks for clearing it up tho
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ Glad we could finish the friendly conversation without starting a war over this.
When on CT side I still prefer the MP9. That thing's a headshot machine
Ump is such a good smg, Valve is probably going to nurf it now...
RIP UltimateMP-45.
I don't even play cs, but i find this videos very entertaining
0:54 wtf nice aimlock flusha
HE IS JUST GOOD
WAIT NVM
At 00:50 we get to see some of flushas hacks
Where? I dont see it.
That was actually aimbot?
@@cosmicoandromeda7195 wh
And aimlock
@@doupt lmao you think that he can wallhack on lan? xD
R.I.P UMP-45 (2000-2017.5.24)
Good night sweet prince. You were a beautiful little smg before you were nerfed, and you still are in my heart
I can uhh play with it. Never hit shit. I think MP9 or Mac-10 is better
I love this weapon I get kill every round
You have to aim nicely and get headshots. Otherwise you'll be fucked like using MPX in R6S
ive been using the ump for a looong time
im surprised its only being picked up now. it was always one of my go-to weapons
Why not make the UMP-45 replaceable with the FAMAS/Galil Ar?
I like how this video came out and the average prices of the UMP,s skins already raised after two days.
Nerf in 3...2..1...
Goddamn it Philip, I love the UMP :(
ShuriBear I agree. I always bug the ump after I win the pistol round. it's just a strong cheap smg
I fell in love with the ump at my first hour of cs go
Yes. No other answer. This shouldn't have happened.
I found your channel a week ago, and I absolutely love it.
I am Quiet new in cs and i appreciate every little bit of help to understand csgo better...
Hope you gain millions oft subs :)
Greetings and thanks from Germany :)
UMP doesn't seem that OP to me.
I could see it getting a little more expensive, but then again I like the fact it's cheap, throwing off CTs.
I prefer the MAC-10 over all other SMGs though
Yeah but arùor penetration/damage is... ugh
i think the slow firerate is what keeps ump balanced, its effective when you hit your shots haha
Nah, it's just underweakened
I think ump got nerf after this video. So video content is not true now. Am I right?
S2 Jackson this video was made 3 years ago 🤦♂️
I admit i like the bizon for running and gunning while the ump for defense. Nice video
"Easiest weapon to spray" huh?
p90?
knife is easiest to spray, you don't even have to reload. 2-4 hits kills. Makes no sound, no recoil. And best of all, max speed. Valve plz fix.
NEGEV?
NEGEV?
NEGEV?
NEGEV?
Remove this video before they nerf it
Vertox nerf*
Bakir Pepic lol thx I fixed it
Ive been using ump for eco since Colonge 2016 cuz i unboxed a ump 45 blaze souvenir :p
Famas: Who are you?
Ump-45: I'm you, but better
Maybe people could start thinking with their own head and not just blindly copy pros.
When I was getting to global I found copying pros hardly made a difference until around LEM.
1:15 FETCH ME THEIR SOULS
also 1:18
So because it was frequently used it's op? it's this thinking that lead to the run and gun update. you saw twice as many ak's, does than mean ak is op pls nerf? no,
Kettle Ak is OP though. Compared to what galil or mp7 or p90 or a negev offers for their price, ak is op. But you cant balance all weapons. This is counter strike not battlefield, ak has to be op.
Exactly. Watch thooorin's video on "Should every gun be viable" or soemthing like that
Who called it overpowered? He asked a question, then stated facts, he never once said "This gun is overpowered.", also the SMGs were /always/ about "run-and-gun", all the way back to 1.6, they just made it more viable, which I personally don't like.
why don't you watch the video first you idiot
Can confirm, I didn't eco at all when the UMP was this good.
Was it nerfed?
@@neppu02 Not by a lot, but it now has damage drop off at shorter ranges so you can't duel someone who has an AK at mid-to long ranges and actually do similar damage. UMP is still a good SMG tho.
@@esskaygee7616 So it's only good when close to the enemy?
@@neppu02 Like standard SMG range. So I'd say to get the most out of it, places like B site Mirage, rushing Tunnels on Dust 2. It still can do some mid range fights, but it gets too risky when playing higher in the ranks.
Answer: not anymore
I love the UMP its my favorite gun!
4 years later; it's dogshit
This gun hits me different. I play like a silver 1 when that shit is on my hands
>worrying about eco rounds
>plays casual
>aks and m4s every round
>gets hackers
>uninstalls csgo
>sells rare skins for cheap
>regrets everything
>plays source
>gets awful framerate
>valve plz fix
don't tell them my secret xD
We gotta keep it on the dl
Make MP7 1200$ and UMP 1700$ and we all good
nah mp 7 at least 1400 , ump 1500
why dont you shut the fuck up and keep the prices the same :)
Toby Prusaczyk ummm no, those are some actrual good suggestions, and i think you should shut the fuck up
ok
Toby Prusaczyk shit j wasnt talking to you i was talking to the other guy ominator
I knew this was coming. The UMP has been in my buy binds from 2016, I consider myself a true pioneer. On a serious note, the lack of ecos and increased number of partial buys must be because of the loss bonus update, right? Not sure if it was mentioned in the video or not, I might miss some things since English is not my first language.
"You'll forget that ECO rounds are even a thing."
Ayyyyyye he's right >
Still relevant
#FIXCSGO
#LITTERLAYUNPLAYABLE
Что ты тут делаешь?
Шаверма ебат.
in counter blox it is *VERY OVER POWERD*
rolve plz fix
Like i have a fuckin helmet and vest and a fuckin ak but i get owned by a fucking ump even tho i aimed f9r te head
And for some reason it kill me faster evm tho i fired first
I feel like an 1800 price tag would be fair as now you need 3 kills to get your money back and if you are low on money you cant just choose the best weapon you'd be forced to use a less optimal smg
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Rip ump :(
#cykablyatidinaxyu
I'm not into CSGO a lot but I like your videos regardless. I do wonder though why does everything popular that's cheaper than an AK or M4 has to be nerfed/be imbalanced? Is rifling the whole end goal of CSGO?
delete this video before VALVe sees it And nerfs the UMP 45.
So why you don't delete it
HumaNOOO done
@@anon1963 cuz he cant
#fixcsgo
ArCH SaiD fuck you
beaver-tails64 69 Do you really have to do that on every comment?
Saleen S7 No but like 20, If Russians want to spam so will I'll
beaver-tails64 69 If someone's jumping off a bridge, you're not gonna follow suit, are you? No.
Same thing applies here.
beaver-tails64 69 If you hate Russia (no idea why you would, Marussia B2, yo), then what do you think spamming is going to solve for you? Do everyone a favor and take your agressions out elsewhere.
#FIXCSGO Please, HELP CS GO community! @g4v3r
Пафнотий fuck you
fuck you
Fuck you.
2:56 how do u zoom with ump?
The two guns I mainly use are the dual berettas and the ump-45
Haven’t even watched the video yet and I can already say yes. It’s like the indoraptor of CS
I propose a 1500$ price tag, 450$ kill reward, drastically increased first shot precision and tighter burst potential with a more complex (mostly horizontal) and scattered spray pattern. Also, no run'n'gun. Running accuracy and precision are in line with "proper rifles".
I've used UMP over say M4 or AK many many times in the last year simply because it gives you more movespeed and you keep the accuracy, while in close quarters it feels to be as effective on firepower than a rifle would be.
Then again bizon is not really valued either, but I can still win many rifle battles with it if the ranges are close because of the mobility. I'm glad proplayers have finally noticed UMP is good because of the mobility it gives (just like fiveseven) but still packs a punch to frag that one clumsy rifle opponent.
at the moment the Mac-10 is really often used. Katowice 2019. That's my impression
Ur 2 years late
Been using it forever b/c I always felt it was more like a rifle with an easy spray pattern and lower average damage. Now that I see the stats it makes sense.
CSGO 2016: cases, play, competive gradual, good Matchmaking, nice friends (40%), AIM Training.
CSGO 2020: cases, hack.
I called that I discovered UMP-45 is OP af first
I kept it a secret a year ago.
ive loved using the ump over ANY gun, not counting the awp or scout for a couple of years now, its always been my favorite weapon :) Spray and pray shes 18 ;D
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I'm a UMP Hipster, and I am very sad that its newfound popularity will end up getting it nerfed.
Phillip: "Famas"
Captions: *perform ass*
Phillip:F amas
my favorite budget main since 2014, love it
I also use Mac 10 because its great for rushing and spraying through a CT's hold and grabbing their weapon.
Doesn't make much sense that the UMP-45 is considered better against armor vs. the P90, which was created to counter armor, as it is a PDW, rather than an SMG.
I’ve always used the UMP 45 but I really didn’t know it was as good as it is. I just thought the foregrip looked cool lol
45. Auto is an absolute manstopper if you dont have armor. The bullet is big and heavy. That means that the muzzle velocity is small at about 300 meters a second( subsonic) so any armor will stop it with ease. But did i say that its heavy? That means that it doesnt slow down too fast in flight. The damage and energy drop off is too big in cs. The ump should be high damage extremely low penetration high stoppingpower low dropoff weapon.
UMPa lumpa was and ever will be may favorite SMG
Even before I watched this vid I always said to my friends "Can't afford something or just wanna save? UMP, they're good"
Not sure if people will hate this but i usually buy almost every round (unless my team is OK and i can buy rifles and nades) UMP-45 + Kevlar and a flash or a granade, or smoke + f./incendiary g/g. so i get a lot of money and + the win or lose of the round ill sill end up whit a lot of money, enough to drop good guns or more UMP's to the team when they dont have money
So basically im the bank of the team or a piggy full of money for my team. (and also buying UMP's makes my corpse less important, since the enemies will have submachineguns to only rush they wont use my UMP... oh and btw, this works at least in Silver because everyone is terrible and having a 1200$ rifle is really good to spray a noob whit that gun and then steal an ak/m4)
P90 armor penetration : 69.0%
*penetration*
not related to the video but can u help me how can i get 4:3 stretched in windows 8.1(intel)