And that's the care and attention to detail that separates Chandwell civic architecture from the slipshod and lackadaisical methods as favoured by them posh buggers from Leeds.
Disaster Michael! But to me, from what I could see of the first part of the video, it already looked great - the cornice very convincing indeed. And the whole building looks perfectly in keeping with the spirit of Chandwell and with the hotel facing it. Thanks, as always, Tom.
Fantastic work there Michael. Even though it didn’t go quite the way you expected. Full marks for sharing your thoughts about it and having the courage to start again. You’ve got some very useful advice out of it too. Look forward to seeing your next update. Roy.
I suspect we have all been there many times Michael. Convincing ourselves that we can correct a slight imperfection in a build, until we have to admit that it has to be done again. It doesn't matter if to others it still looks spectacular, as the roof section did. I hope it doesn't take too much to redo the roof and look forward to seeing the revised version next week. Stephen
At last! At last I can finally feel justified in the number of attmpts it takes me to build anything and get it 'right enough' for my layout! Thank you and OH WOW! ReaLLY! The whole roof? Thos e 93 cornices and tiny cuts are going to be repeated once more Your patience and wonderful work continue to inspire...
Your Inkscape skills are just as gob smackingly good as your buildings. That cornice was a work of art, so very convincing when you stacked the pieces together.
Oh Michael, your patience is amazing. Once you realised your mistake you dealt with it without going off on one 😢😅😊. And there you go, planning the next move. Bravo ! Look forward to follow-up.
Your attention to detail Michael is second to none and you have much more patience than me, many thanks for sharing this video. Building is looking fantastic as always looking forward to next update regards and take care Barry..
The amount of effort to obtain the perfect build is mind blowing - I would have given up and carried on with the original as only I would have known the difference. I am still getting tom grips with inscape and your efforts only serve to keep me inspired. Well done. Regards Steve
print a triangle of dots on each layer sized for a cocktail stick and push one through each dot on consecutive layers to act as alignment dowels before gluing. After the glue is set cut the cocktail sticks off flush with the scalpel/exacto. As I've mentioned I build in 1:48/1:50, so I re-size a lot of scalescenes prints and find this "alignment dowel" method invaluable in maintaining accurate alignment of parts.
You are such a perfectionist I would have been chuffed to bits with that roof! You dont half make things hard for yourself 😉 Great video as always, Andrew🙂
Your dedication to getting things just right is always impressive Michael. In any case it looks great and I'm certain version 2 will be spectacular. Really looking forward to seeing how the building's inhabitants take shape. Double thumbs up from me.
OK ,Michael, this is the ultimate proof you are a total perfectionist. Most folk would have left things as they were, but this is what makes your channel so enjoyable. Nice to see a bit of movement on the layout too, and of course the loco and stock beautifully weathered, not that anyone would expect anything less. Wonderful as always, and looking forward to the next one. A great end to my 71st birthday!! Cheers, Bob
Happy 71st birthday, Bob! I am honoured that you chose to spend part of it down in Chandwell! I really appreciate having you along every week. I hope your birthday was a good one. Many thanks and best wishes, Michael.
You take just as much care to get it right as the original builders did, back in the day, Michael. 'N' scale (1/176) is so unforgiving, the thickness of a scalpel cut translates to more than a foot in 'N'. Even so, the building looks magnificent, and as it's "front and centre" of the layout it needs to be as good as you can make it. Keep up the good work George
I was just thinking that looks odd when you cut in with your black and white shot. Oh. You have even got me using Ink scape. Ive been making some waterslide decals for my 3D models.
It just goes to show you ARE human! The difference is that you are philosophical about it! Me, I would have stamped on it and gone to weatherspoons. Hmm now then , would Chandwell have had a Weathies in those days ?😮. Good stuff.
Hhaha. I think by 2010 there would certainly be a Spoons in Chandwell, maybe even three. But in 1993 in the small town, I think it would still be a few years away....?
Thank you. You’re right. I doubt anyone else would notice but it was really obvious to me. I knew it was wrong straight away and it was wrong to pretend otherwise.
Aarrgh! I feel your pain. Perhaps you might have broken the guttering there and disguised it with some grass growing in it (and a green stain down the stonework underneath). The back of my house is still a bit like this, with knackered cast-iron gutters; we ought to get arts council sponsorship as a homage to early 90s post-industrial decay.
That did cross my mind, but when I looked at it, there were quite a few other things I could have done better regarding the cornice. Good luck with that "Heritage Grant" application - you could use some of it to finance a "heritage" layout too...?
@@Chandwell You're already doing the full job on the (actually rather stressful!) period in my life 89-93 when I first came to the North and it was very much falling apart before my eyes. No wonder locals hated students - we had an option to leave...something I never quite managed :-) I may have mentioned it before, but have a listen to New Model Army's 'Green and the Grey' - it reminds of that time, they were from Bradford I think, and your townscape does too. Or maybe Half Man Half Biscuit's 'Trumpton Riots' if you prefer musical nostalgia which can make you smile!
Your little advices how to handle the cutting job the best way are always very helpful, f.e. to turn the cardboard and not the knife to cut decent round shapes. Also the saving advice with the different printing colours is perfect - I do not like to waste material, even when it is "only" a cardboard I have harvest from a cereal box etc. The solution to your mistake sounds logical - mistakes can happen and I am interested, how you will construct the roof plate once again in a better way! All the best Valentin
Wow.. I was amost ready for you to lay your mistake on the floor and stomp all over it. Must have been maintaining a great deal of composure. Love the dental work, I'm going to have to go back to some of my previous builds and incorporate what you've done, looks great. Have a Greaat Day! Don
For cutting such delicate things I use the Brother Scan'n'Cut, which I send svg files directly from inkscape and have the little blade cut through to the depth required. I'm not sure what it would do with larger stock card beyond 2mm, but for the tasks I've put it to it's a nice piece of automation. Though it looks like you are doing everything by hand, which is also ace.
It looks like it's coming on nicely - the detail is great. Well done on having the guts and determination to to take the roof off to get it aligned just right
Michael Great to see your thought processes as this Old Town Hall will be such a prominent building at the front of your layout, think you’re right to want it look it’s best. After all you rebuilt, scraped or alter elements of the building towards the rear of the layout. I’m sure this will make the replacement section of cornice & guttering will be even better and the and uniform when viewed from the front. You mentioned it been a Nightclub in the left hand side of the building. Similar Northern Nightclubs in the late 1980’s were the subject of almost Cult-like Late Night TV Shows like “The Hitman & Her” with Pete Waterman & Michaela Strachen or “Frank Sidebottoms Fantastic Shed Show”. I sure you can come up with a suitably Chandwell Version with signs to say As Seen on TV. Maybe this Nightclub might be more Britney than Buffers or The Earl Chandfield. Ian
@@Chandwell Michael as the yet unnamed Nightclub, I do like Simon’s suggestion of Terry Noble’s Roxy it has a Chandwell ring to it. If it not the eventual Nightclub name this might be name of the Cult TV Show something like “Terry Noble’s Roxy Nights”. If it’s not the TV Show, Terry could be the next Guest Appearance at the Club.
Question to self who is Terry Noble? 1) Sportman Current or Local Legend like Bradford Richard Dunn 1970’s Boxer 2) Local Pop Star 3) Badboy Soap Actor
Aaaargh! So annoying, but you're right to redo it or it would just bug you every time you looked at it. Especially as it's right at the front of the layout. Chandwell wasn't built in a day. Cheers Michael
Another great video Michael thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
@@Chandwell Your welcome.
For your nightclub there’s an old one in Stockport called Heaven and Hell perfect for rundown chandwell
There was a Heaven & Hell in Leeds too, and I almost, almost went with that as a name.
And that's the care and attention to detail that separates Chandwell civic architecture from the slipshod and lackadaisical methods as favoured by them posh buggers from Leeds.
That'll learn em.
Why not print two/three dots you could push aligning pins through to make sure it all aligns?
Great idea!!! I will use this in future. Thank you.
Nice to see the mistakes. Always a joy to watch your builds. Thanks for sharing. Dave
I should make a video just of mistakes. It would last hours! :)
Thanks, Michael for making these mistakes to help the rest of us mear mortals to avoid them. 😵💫
Thank you! I try! :)
The man who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Nice one.
Bob
Nice saying! Thank you!
Disaster Michael! But to me, from what I could see of the first part of the video, it already looked great - the cornice very convincing indeed. And the whole building looks perfectly in keeping with the spirit of Chandwell and with the hotel facing it. Thanks, as always, Tom.
Thank you Tom!
Thanks for showing us your chase for perfection. It would have bugged you forever, even though we may not have noticed it. 😊 cheers Peter.
Yes! Exactly that! :)
Hi ya Michael. We, your subscribers, and your building benefit greatly from your perfectionism. Thanks.
Thank you Norman.
Once again, thank you for showing the unsuccessful attempts as well as the successful ones. We all learn from them.
Guidelines are underrated.
Thank you! Yes, every day is a school day and we are always learning. Guidelines are wonderful!
Fantastic work there Michael. Even though it didn’t go quite the way you expected. Full marks for sharing your thoughts about it and having the courage to start again. You’ve got some very useful advice out of it too. Look forward to seeing your next update. Roy.
Thanks Roy!
Hi Michael Once again your attention to detail and accuracy is outstanding. Thanks
Thank you!
That cornice looks fantastic. What a clever idea!
Thank you! Cheers!
I suspect we have all been there many times Michael. Convincing ourselves that we can correct a slight imperfection in a build, until we have to admit that it has to be done again. It doesn't matter if to others it still looks spectacular, as the roof section did. I hope it doesn't take too much to redo the roof and look forward to seeing the revised version next week. Stephen
Thanks Stephen - yes I think we all visit that place many times. It's all part of the hobby and you just have to keep going.
At last!
At last I can finally feel justified in the number of attmpts it takes me to build anything and get it 'right enough' for my layout!
Thank you and OH WOW!
ReaLLY!
The whole roof?
Thos e 93 cornices and tiny cuts are going to be repeated once more
Your patience and wonderful work continue to inspire...
Hahah indeed! (I make more mistakes than I tend to show, you know! :) )
Your Inkscape skills are just as gob smackingly good as your buildings. That cornice was a work of art, so very convincing when you stacked the pieces together.
Thank you!
Oh Michael, your patience is amazing. Once you realised your mistake you dealt with it without going off on one 😢😅😊. And there you go, planning the next move. Bravo ! Look forward to follow-up.
Thank you! Once it's noticed, you just have to get on with it! :)
Your attention to detail Michael is second to none and you have much more patience than me, many thanks for sharing this video. Building is looking fantastic as always looking forward to next update regards and take care Barry..
Thank you Barry!
What a job on the cornice mate. Building shaping up nicely. Arthur
Thank you Arthur!
Amazing work as always Michael
One idea I would suggest is calling the nightclub "city vaults" like the sticky floor nightclub in newcastle
That's a good name!
The amount of effort to obtain the perfect build is mind blowing - I would have given up and carried on with the original as only I would have known the difference. I am still getting tom grips with inscape and your efforts only serve to keep me inspired. Well done.
Regards
Steve
Wow, thanks Steve! Keep going with Inkscape! :)
print a triangle of dots on each layer sized for a cocktail stick and push one through each dot on consecutive layers to act as alignment dowels before gluing. After the glue is set cut the cocktail sticks off flush with the scalpel/exacto. As I've mentioned I build in 1:48/1:50, so I re-size a lot of scalescenes prints and find this "alignment dowel" method invaluable in maintaining accurate alignment of parts.
Genius idea. Thank you! 👍👍👍
You are such a perfectionist I would have been chuffed to bits with that roof! You dont half make things hard for yourself 😉
Great video as always,
Andrew🙂
Thank you! 😊
Your dedication to getting things just right is always impressive Michael. In any case it looks great and I'm certain version 2 will be spectacular. Really looking forward to seeing how the building's inhabitants take shape. Double thumbs up from me.
Double thumbs up!? Double thank you Mark!
OK ,Michael, this is the ultimate proof you are a total perfectionist. Most folk would have left things as they were, but this is what makes your channel so enjoyable. Nice to see a bit of movement on the layout too, and of course the loco and stock beautifully weathered, not that anyone would expect anything less.
Wonderful as always, and looking forward to the next one. A great end to my 71st birthday!!
Cheers, Bob
Happy 71st birthday, Bob! I am honoured that you chose to spend part of it down in Chandwell! I really appreciate having you along every week. I hope your birthday was a good one. Many thanks and best wishes, Michael.
@@Chandwell Thank you Michael. I do not celebrate any more, with my health I just consider myself lucky to be here. Cheers, Bob
That’s a great outlook. Awe should all be thankful for every day. Take care, all the best.
You are a perfectionist Michael ! I'd probably have done the same myself.
Thanks Euan! You don't make mistakes though... surely!? :D
You take just as much care to get it right as the original builders did, back in the day, Michael.
'N' scale (1/176) is so unforgiving, the thickness of a scalpel cut translates to more than a foot in 'N'.
Even so, the building looks magnificent, and as it's "front and centre" of the layout it needs to be as good as you can make it.
Keep up the good work
George
Thanks George! Thankfully N Scale isn't THAT small. A foot is 2mm, (1:148), but it's still pretty tiny! :)
thanks for this and every episode.
Thank you so much. That is very kind.
Michael, your buildings are amazing ! You always get the visual balance spot on.
Thank you. I try!
Just brilliant.
Thank you!
I was just thinking that looks odd when you cut in with your black and white shot.
Oh. You have even got me using Ink scape. Ive been making some waterslide decals for my 3D models.
Yeah - that shot really did show how bad it was. Enjoy Inkscape! Sounds like a fun project.
It just goes to show you ARE human! The difference is that you are philosophical about it! Me, I would have stamped on it and gone to weatherspoons. Hmm now then , would Chandwell have had a Weathies in those days ?😮. Good stuff.
Hhaha. I think by 2010 there would certainly be a Spoons in Chandwell, maybe even three. But in 1993 in the small town, I think it would still be a few years away....?
Ye Gods, you have some patience!
I think you need to in this game! :)
If you're really dissatisfied with the outcome, it's best to go back and try again. It is looking good, though. 👍
Thank you. You’re right. I doubt anyone else would notice but it was really obvious to me. I knew it was wrong straight away and it was wrong to pretend otherwise.
Aarrgh! I feel your pain. Perhaps you might have broken the guttering there and disguised it with some grass growing in it (and a green stain down the stonework underneath). The back of my house is still a bit like this, with knackered cast-iron gutters; we ought to get arts council sponsorship as a homage to early 90s post-industrial decay.
That did cross my mind, but when I looked at it, there were quite a few other things I could have done better regarding the cornice. Good luck with that "Heritage Grant" application - you could use some of it to finance a "heritage" layout too...?
@@Chandwell You're already doing the full job on the (actually rather stressful!) period in my life 89-93 when I first came to the North and it was very much falling apart before my eyes. No wonder locals hated students - we had an option to leave...something I never quite managed :-) I may have mentioned it before, but have a listen to New Model Army's 'Green and the Grey' - it reminds of that time, they were from Bradford I think, and your townscape does too. Or maybe Half Man Half Biscuit's 'Trumpton Riots' if you prefer musical nostalgia which can make you smile!
Your little advices how to handle the cutting job the best way are always very helpful, f.e. to turn the cardboard and not the knife to cut decent round shapes. Also the saving advice with the different printing colours is perfect - I do not like to waste material, even when it is "only" a cardboard I have harvest from a cereal box etc.
The solution to your mistake sounds logical - mistakes can happen and I am interested, how you will construct the roof plate once again in a better way!
All the best
Valentin
Thank you Valentin. We are very similar in that regard, I think.
Wow.. I was amost ready for you to lay your mistake on the floor and stomp all over it. Must have been maintaining a great deal of composure. Love the dental work, I'm going to have to go back to some of my previous builds and incorporate what you've done, looks great.
Have a Greaat Day!
Don
Thank you Don! It would not be the first time I've stamped on my work! :)
@@Chandwell 😂 tooo funny... it's what I resist all the time.
so gutted for you! it really is looking good though
Thank you.
For cutting such delicate things I use the Brother Scan'n'Cut, which I send svg files directly from inkscape and have the little blade cut through to the depth required. I'm not sure what it would do with larger stock card beyond 2mm, but for the tasks I've put it to it's a nice piece of automation.
Though it looks like you are doing everything by hand, which is also ace.
Great tip! One day I will look at something like this, but for now, I really enjoy doing it by hand.
It looks like it's coming on nicely - the detail is great. Well done on having the guts and determination to to take the roof off to get it aligned just right
Thank you! Yes, I think it needed to be done.
Mistakes like this are annoying - but we all make them.
Indeed! All part of the fun!
Michael Great to see your thought processes as this Old Town Hall will be such a prominent building at the front of your layout, think you’re right to want it look it’s best. After all you rebuilt, scraped or alter elements of the building towards the rear of the layout. I’m sure this will make the replacement section of cornice & guttering will be even better and the and uniform when viewed from the front. You mentioned it been a Nightclub in the left hand side of the building. Similar Northern Nightclubs in the late 1980’s were the subject of almost Cult-like Late Night TV Shows like “The Hitman & Her” with Pete Waterman & Michaela Strachen or “Frank Sidebottoms Fantastic Shed Show”. I sure you can come up with a suitably Chandwell Version with signs to say As Seen on TV. Maybe this Nightclub might be more Britney than Buffers or The Earl Chandfield. Ian
Great ideas!
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Terry Noble's Roxy, run by Barrly Noble's less successful brother.
@@Chandwell Michael as the yet unnamed Nightclub, I do like Simon’s suggestion of Terry Noble’s Roxy it has a Chandwell ring to it. If it not the eventual Nightclub name this might be name of the Cult TV Show something like “Terry Noble’s Roxy Nights”. If it’s not the TV Show, Terry could be the next Guest Appearance at the Club.
Question to self who is Terry Noble? 1) Sportman Current or Local Legend like Bradford Richard Dunn 1970’s Boxer 2) Local Pop Star 3) Badboy Soap Actor
Upgraded my phone and forgot all of my passwords . . . . What did I miss ? 😂
Oh just one or two small things!
Aaaargh! So annoying, but you're right to redo it or it would just bug you every time you looked at it. Especially as it's right at the front of the layout. Chandwell wasn't built in a day. Cheers Michael
Indeed - I think if something is annoying you, you owe it to yourself to do something about it otherwise you'd always be annoyed at your inaction.
Would be so incredible to see a subway line eventually
Yeah that would be a nice feature on a model like this. Sadly, no West Yorkshire towns have subways though, so there won’t be one in Chandwell.