i KNOW i love it so much. one of my favorites ,,, it being super easy is a positive for me. it’s nice to get a break from all of the insanity and just get lots of free eggs
tornado is just so free to a ludicrous extent. i've seen people fumble mudmouths, i've seen people fumble gushers, but it's impossible to not win tornado. however i also don't enjoy getting it as much as those other two "fun" night waves and it's cool to think about how its gameplay could be improved!
i lost a tornado wave once😭 all three of my freelance teammates took EACH INDIVIDUAL EGG FROM THE SHORE TO THE BASKET and would ignore the eggs that i threw,,, we ended up like one behind quota😭😭😭
I've always thought a mode called "Tornado" should, y'know, have a tornado actually on the map. My rework idea was to make a constantly moving Tornado that occasionally spits out lessers, golden eggs, and the egg crates seen in the current mode (albeit dropping FAR fewer eggs, like 6-12ish). The tornado would suck up any players who get too close, tossing them around for a bit before launching them a good half of the map away (without fall damage, of course), and shooting players in the tornado would bring them down closer to the ground, making it a risk-reward of getting close to the Tornado for short range weapons and risking being sucked up themselves, in exchange for being able to save teammates sooner, while making it an aim challenge for long-range weapons to knock players out of the tornado when they're higher up before they get flung. I also imagine the Tornado would exclusively stay on lowtide, and would drop the most golden eggs there, as well as only dropping the egg crates there, making the chain of throwing eggs back still relevant while letting newer players or backlines stay on higher, safer ground to put the eggs into the basket and gather any easy eggs, and making the gameplay more challenging and interesting than just "sometimes a salmonid falls on your head"
reminds me of the australian guy from futurama, "pushing these empty carts is the closest thing we get to a break here". don't change tornado, it feels like winning the lottery and i don't think that should change
I think the tornado was created to showcase the new egg-throw mechanic, which was a good idea in theory, but they didn’t predict how stale it would get once we learned how to do it. I would love if the tornado actually pulled you towards it for added difficulty, since it’s kinda weird that we aren’t affected by the wind at all
The idea of having eggs spawn all over the place is Genius. The point of Tornado waves is to teach people how to transport eggs and having them spawn all over the place is similar to how a normal wave goes. Having the optimisations you make in tornado waves apply to normal waves. Love the idea great work
Tornado encounter is actually my favorite. I especially love the idea of not having to deal with those annoying snatchers spawning around to try and steal the eggs back.
Ok but snatchers are actually helpful most of the time. They will carry shore eggs closer to you (most of the time). Its not like splatoon 2 where they just, grab
The only positive about tornado waves to me is that they’re a relief to get when you’re on that 999 grind, other than that it sucks. It’s a real shame cuz I remember being so ecstatic over the way tornado waves forced teamwork in such a particular way on launch of s3. Your rework idea is so sick!! It keeps the exact same concept with just a bit more difficulty, and with a unique gimmick of the tide changing which could honestly be a neat idea for a new event wave if the devs ever add more (please). You should def do more vids like this, reworks or even things you’d add to the game !!!!
So glad you like my idea 🙏 And yeah Tornado only feels good when it's W3 on an important or particularly hard shift 😭 hoping the devs are willing to make tweaks to SR like they do for PVP
Tornado has funky music tho that’s the enjoyable part. Rework Swarm wave. Add walls or make lesser salmon appear in lesser amounts or do something that makes the wave almost always a crew wipe. Or just add lots more in label and big walls like how Cohock Parade wave adds cannons. Make the screen go black for a second after everyone lands in the in between time and the black screen adds more walls, indicating the Swarm wave
I don't really think it needs to be reworked I see other player "booyah" when we get this wave. Yes it is free easy win but I rather have a wave win than I'm constantly trying to survive and meet the gold. The 2 hardest waves i see players struggling to survive is Grillers and Glowflies.
I doubt tornado is the most hated wave. It's great getting a tornado wave cuz it's the best possible outcome due to how stress relieving it is. Sure, some would hate tornado, but i doubt it's the most hated wave when glowflies exist. (Also, something i would change for tornado is if you're eggecutive vp or higher, snatchers will appear on tornado waves for extra challenge. So someone would need to kill the snatchers while the other people put the eggs in the basket)
Nice rework. It’s a cool idea. That said, I am okay with Tornado and has no idea it was hated. I really like how it’s a breather or a break from the craziness and intensity that comes with higher ranking salmon run. Still, cool video. Nice work.
0:55 there are not only 3 egg backet positions, about half the maps have 4 basket spots, for example on stockeye, theres one for each 4 of the bridges, i think on spawning grounds it only had 3 and gone fission, but like smoke yard and junction, they have 2 basket spawns on each side of the low tide, cause u know the map splits
Instead of destroying the crates, you collect an egg by going next to them. You can throw golden eggs but they will randomly get scattered around sometimes.
tornado is so boring as is and the only fun i get from it is goofing off and drawing pictures on the ground when i get a charger lol this rework idea is really interesting and i like it a lot, i wonder if this can be modded in-game somehow
I feel like this wave is weird lore wise as well, like what is even supposed to be happening here? I guess what's supposed to be happening is that a tornado spawned underwater(?) and picked up a huge chest that the salmonids where storing their eggs in and dropped it onto land along with a bunch of lessers. But like that's so weird, why are they putting a major energy source/their children into a box? How did the tornado even grab them?! I feel like they should spawn Maws too, so at least they'd be making a Sharknado reference, also it be harder to out run a bunch of lessers plus a *ton* of Maws. (edit) Well I guess this wave is already a Sharknado reference but Maws is blatantly supposed to be Jaws so there for more shark like than the average salmonid.
Honestly if tornado adds frequent maws spawns that only give 1 egg when defeated (to prevent just camping at the basket) it would be a lot more interesting already
Said it before and i will say it again, youre a genius, love your concept of rework, it could be way more fun like the way you described, any other ides for it?
Thank you! There have been some cool ideas from viewers (like big eggs making you slower or not being able to be thrown), but I think I mentioned all my ideas for Tornado here :)
I feel like rush, by design, is a balancing nightmare 😭 cause it's supposed to be hard but it's too hard for freelance, but if they change something they might make it too easy/boring LOL
I didn't know the mode was hated
I LOVE this mode. It's a nice break from the insanity of salmon run.
i KNOW i love it so much. one of my favorites ,,, it being super easy is a positive for me. it’s nice to get a break from all of the insanity and just get lots of free eggs
Same. Especially after a zombie wave on a more open map
I whole heartedly agree
same
Same here, I viewed it as a nice breather during an otherwise crazy game mode (at least on EVP ranks it’s a great breather).
tornado is just so free to a ludicrous extent. i've seen people fumble mudmouths, i've seen people fumble gushers, but it's impossible to not win tornado. however i also don't enjoy getting it as much as those other two "fun" night waves and it's cool to think about how its gameplay could be improved!
I actually lost my second tornado wave ever just two days ago lol.
I lost one of my first tornado waves. Tornado decided to land on top of everyone and wiped us out of nowhere.
i lost a tornado wave once😭 all three of my freelance teammates took EACH INDIVIDUAL EGG FROM THE SHORE TO THE BASKET and would ignore the eggs that i threw,,, we ended up like one behind quota😭😭😭
Ive lost tornadoes on sockeye because some people insist on throwing the eggs behind the pillar for some god damn reason
I've always thought a mode called "Tornado" should, y'know, have a tornado actually on the map. My rework idea was to make a constantly moving Tornado that occasionally spits out lessers, golden eggs, and the egg crates seen in the current mode (albeit dropping FAR fewer eggs, like 6-12ish). The tornado would suck up any players who get too close, tossing them around for a bit before launching them a good half of the map away (without fall damage, of course), and shooting players in the tornado would bring them down closer to the ground, making it a risk-reward of getting close to the Tornado for short range weapons and risking being sucked up themselves, in exchange for being able to save teammates sooner, while making it an aim challenge for long-range weapons to knock players out of the tornado when they're higher up before they get flung.
I also imagine the Tornado would exclusively stay on lowtide, and would drop the most golden eggs there, as well as only dropping the egg crates there, making the chain of throwing eggs back still relevant while letting newer players or backlines stay on higher, safer ground to put the eggs into the basket and gather any easy eggs, and making the gameplay more challenging and interesting than just "sometimes a salmonid falls on your head"
reminds me of the australian guy from futurama, "pushing these empty carts is the closest thing we get to a break here". don't change tornado, it feels like winning the lottery and i don't think that should change
I think the tornado was created to showcase the new egg-throw mechanic, which was a good idea in theory, but they didn’t predict how stale it would get once we learned how to do it. I would love if the tornado actually pulled you towards it for added difficulty, since it’s kinda weird that we aren’t affected by the wind at all
The idea of having eggs spawn all over the place is Genius. The point of Tornado waves is to teach people how to transport eggs and having them spawn all over the place is similar to how a normal wave goes. Having the optimisations you make in tornado waves apply to normal waves. Love the idea great work
I love this rework because it makes sense. A hurricane would obviously shift the tides
Tornado encounter is actually my favorite. I especially love the idea of not having to deal with those annoying snatchers spawning around to try and steal the eggs back.
Ok but snatchers are actually helpful most of the time. They will carry shore eggs closer to you (most of the time). Its not like splatoon 2 where they just, grab
yes, tornado is a little dry, but it's so satisfying to get it on the last wave on a high hazard level.
even though I don’t really like the wave myself, I still enjoy the break from actually playing
The only positive about tornado waves to me is that they’re a relief to get when you’re on that 999 grind, other than that it sucks. It’s a real shame cuz I remember being so ecstatic over the way tornado waves forced teamwork in such a particular way on launch of s3. Your rework idea is so sick!! It keeps the exact same concept with just a bit more difficulty, and with a unique gimmick of the tide changing which could honestly be a neat idea for a new event wave if the devs ever add more (please). You should def do more vids like this, reworks or even things you’d add to the game !!!!
So glad you like my idea 🙏
And yeah Tornado only feels good when it's W3 on an important or particularly hard shift 😭 hoping the devs are willing to make tweaks to SR like they do for PVP
This is such a cool rework idea!! Tornado right now is just.. monotonous and this would make it so much more fun :D
Tornado has funky music tho that’s the enjoyable part.
Rework Swarm wave. Add walls or make lesser salmon appear in lesser amounts or do something that makes the wave almost always a crew wipe. Or just add lots more in label and big walls like how Cohock Parade wave adds cannons. Make the screen go black for a second after everyone lands in the in between time and the black screen adds more walls, indicating the Swarm wave
Shh shh shh my team is bad we need the eggs
NOOO!!! Tornado stays AS IS!
I don't really think it needs to be reworked I see other player "booyah" when we get this wave.
Yes it is free easy win but I rather have a wave win than I'm constantly trying to survive and meet the gold.
The 2 hardest waves i see players struggling to survive is Grillers and Glowflies.
Facts
Tornado does not need a rework GLOWFLIES needs a rework
Why?
It's a simple yet challenging wave.
I doubt tornado is the most hated wave. It's great getting a tornado wave cuz it's the best possible outcome due to how stress relieving it is. Sure, some would hate tornado, but i doubt it's the most hated wave when glowflies exist. (Also, something i would change for tornado is if you're eggecutive vp or higher, snatchers will appear on tornado waves for extra challenge. So someone would need to kill the snatchers while the other people put the eggs in the basket)
Nice rework. It’s a cool idea. That said, I am okay with Tornado and has no idea it was hated. I really like how it’s a breather or a break from the craziness and intensity that comes with higher ranking salmon run. Still, cool video. Nice work.
0:55 there are not only 3 egg backet positions, about half the maps have 4 basket spots, for example on stockeye, theres one for each 4 of the bridges, i think on spawning grounds it only had 3 and gone fission, but like smoke yard and junction, they have 2 basket spawns on each side of the low tide, cause u know the map splits
I didn't know people didn't like tornado. I can see why people don't like how it's free, but I don't mind it.
As someone who loves tornado this is AMAZING I really hope Nintendo does something like this
A more simple rework I would change for tornado is remove the double eggs and egg crates but add boss salmons in the spawning
So what you are proposing is essentially "team wipe - the game".
This is a fantastic rework!
A tornado should randomly scatter the eggs we collect making it harder to get eggs in the basket
Instead of destroying the crates, you collect an egg by going next to them. You can throw golden eggs but they will randomly get scattered around sometimes.
tornado is so boring as is and the only fun i get from it is goofing off and drawing pictures on the ground when i get a charger lol
this rework idea is really interesting and i like it a lot, i wonder if this can be modded in-game somehow
thats actually such a cool idea !!!
awesome video!
Tysm 🙏
Hated? I need those tornado eggs cause I have to get out of carrying people 😭
I feel like this wave is weird lore wise as well, like what is even supposed to be happening here?
I guess what's supposed to be happening is that a tornado spawned underwater(?) and picked up a huge chest that the salmonids where storing their eggs in and dropped it onto land along with a bunch of lessers.
But like that's so weird, why are they putting a major energy source/their children into a box? How did the tornado even grab them?!
I feel like they should spawn Maws too, so at least they'd be making a Sharknado reference, also it be harder to out run a bunch of lessers plus a *ton* of Maws.
(edit) Well I guess this wave is already a Sharknado reference but Maws is blatantly supposed to be Jaws so there for more shark like than the average salmonid.
Honestly if tornado adds frequent maws spawns that only give 1 egg when defeated (to prevent just camping at the basket) it would be a lot more interesting already
Said it before and i will say it again, youre a genius, love your concept of rework, it could be way more fun like the way you described, any other ides for it?
Thank you! There have been some cool ideas from viewers (like big eggs making you slower or not being able to be thrown), but I think I mentioned all my ideas for Tornado here :)
Dude is a good rework
I think my highest wave was a tornado wave, had almost 80 eggs
I love tornadoe
Yes I know skill issues
But I don’t care because all I want is the gold skels with out hacking
Great rework! Now we just need to fix rush...
The fix to rush waves is to have good strategy.
And to not be playing on spawning grounds.
I feel like rush, by design, is a balancing nightmare 😭 cause it's supposed to be hard but it's too hard for freelance, but if they change something they might make it too easy/boring LOL
Indeed
Glad to know im not the only person who dislikes it. It's just not really fun, nor does it have any challenge. It just fells tedious
This mode is pretty easy for me
Tornado is perfect wdym
People don't like this wave???
LMFAO IF U HATE THIS UR BORING