Phil101--Liz Camp on Metaphor

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Liz Camp of Rutgers University joins James and Eliot to talk about the nature of metaphor.

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  • @TheNewton
    @TheNewton 7 років тому +68

    So is franco stoned for the whole series or only for a few seconds at a time like at 3:52?

    • @gamefervor261
      @gamefervor261 7 років тому +17

      I think he's been high since pineapple express lol

    • @clutchcobra2729
      @clutchcobra2729 7 років тому +9

      Apparently he doesn't smoke at all actually. Sleep deprived perhaps, wouldn't be surprised.

    • @ccraisins2005
      @ccraisins2005 7 років тому +1

      I think James just looks like that. He also speaks with a lisp.

    • @owlofathena1247
      @owlofathena1247 7 років тому +1

      An Apple A Day only a smart person can act like an idiot haha ;)

    • @commesargehy9164
      @commesargehy9164 7 років тому

      he's just trying not to fall asleep

  • @TheRamger
    @TheRamger 7 років тому +2

    Right? Right? Right!? Right?!! Right!?!? Right!!!??? RIGHT?!

  • @naillatypov4139
    @naillatypov4139 7 років тому

    How does a metaphor refer to philosophy? I'm a doctor of philosophical sciences in Russia and do not understand what you're talking about, can your channel be about linguistics?

    • @billytalty
      @billytalty 7 років тому

      Seriuous Mult
      it's all philsophy in the fields of practical epistemology, philosophy of language, and philosophy of mind; how one uses tools of language to derive the warrant for their beliefs into packets of information for other minds to receive that, apart from the context, would be nonsense bits of information.
      Dr. Camp is talking about her work on perspectivical imagination which tries to answer why our minds are hardwired to do metaphor or context dependant justification, and what practices we can further develop in understanding this process, in order to utilize our minds more fully in different situations.

  • @baptisteollivier9375
    @baptisteollivier9375 7 років тому +21

    Oh hi mark

  • @TreeUnit3
    @TreeUnit3 7 років тому +31

    "Let's just say I might give him something special with my hand."
    Is that a metaphor?

    • @73brook
      @73brook 7 років тому

      No it isn't but to relate the action of that "something special" to something else that uses the same motion would be a metaphor.

  • @sgdhvn
    @sgdhvn 7 років тому +20

    That point about how metaphors can be better descriptors because they evoke specific emotional responses I think is really interesting. I feel like in certain situations and especially when writing, being able to make the reader or person you're talking to think about specific memory they had can be a super powerful tool. Good stuff keep up what you're doing

    • @DrasticKDescription
      @DrasticKDescription 6 років тому

      Sam 100% agree as a lyricist my self this is hulk huge

    • @angeedsluder77
      @angeedsluder77 5 років тому

      And as Liz said in the video, shared context is key in attempting to evoke a specific memory in another person. For instance, my husband once described me as a "relic". My mind immediately conjured an image of the withered hand of a long dead saint slowly decaying in a cold stone sepulchre in the damp catacombs underneath the ruins of a forgotten monastery. Needless to say, that wasn't a pleasant thought and I took offense. At which point, he quickly explained that he was actually thinking of something precious beneath a glass display in a museum. So, of course, my mind brought up a picture of a withered mummy's body suffering the indignity of a slow public disintegration for an attempt to amuse bored teens into feeling a connection with discarded history. Then my husband, in a state of repulsion from the mental images I described, a state of shock that my mind would even keep such thoughts on file, and exasperation at my mind's resistance to recalling something pleasant, explained that he meant something like the crown jewels of England. In my husband's mind, a relic is a revered item from the past that is preserved and displayed for posterity. In my mind, a relic is something that has fallen into such obsolescence that it's decomposing. If a person wants to communicate evoke a certain feeling in his/her audience, s/he needs to know his/her listener(s) well enough to use the language that would recall the intended image and emotion. In my husband's case, he could have used the words "National Treasure" to describe me, and my mind would have jumped to The Bill of Rights or The Declaration of Independence. But I still would have been offended. I mean, who wants to be a once-loved, but now seldom considered, item presented before a disinterested party?

  • @travisjones4106
    @travisjones4106 7 років тому +9

    here's a metaphor -- "that camerawork is garbage"

  • @TigerSripedSoul
    @TigerSripedSoul 7 років тому +11

    Banana? Purple?

    • @nick_1O8
      @nick_1O8 7 років тому

      Steven Larson banana?

  • @camilaconstanzavelezsilva92
    @camilaconstanzavelezsilva92 7 років тому +2

    James, Elliot, please don't stop making this videos. Please, this is a great idea, and u are developing great. Kisses and all my support from Argentina, with love, Cami...

  • @mcmixaelYT
    @mcmixaelYT 7 років тому +5

    О. Видео от Толяна подъехало

  • @tubetomarcato
    @tubetomarcato 7 років тому +2

    the "book smarts" guy is there to hold a book and look smart.

  • @VaitarPlace
    @VaitarPlace 7 років тому +1

    Каналами популярных американских актёров интересуются только немногие в США и кто-нибудь из России?)

  • @IAMCONALD
    @IAMCONALD 7 років тому +2

    I really enjoyed this thank you for sharing. Will be watching the rest of this series. Hopefully the audio gets better. Props :)

  • @camilaconstanzavelezsilva92
    @camilaconstanzavelezsilva92 7 років тому +1

    James, Elliot, please don't stop making this videos. Please, this is a great idea, and u are developing great. Kisses and all my support from Argentina, with love, Cami...

  • @juanbinckoski
    @juanbinckoski 7 років тому +13

    This is great.

  • @corryify
    @corryify 7 років тому +3

    Зачем Толяну еще один канал? И почему он не ест?

  • @maxNsherri
    @maxNsherri 7 років тому +1

    A metaphor is like not comparing what something is like by saying what it is like, but by saying what is alike by not saying is like. Damn, how hard is it.

  • @jesuseugene4612
    @jesuseugene4612 7 років тому +1

    "make your singing like marzipan."
    but isn't that then a simile, and not a metaphor? or can it pass as both?

  • @ArbiterElegantiaee
    @ArbiterElegantiaee 7 років тому +1

    the metaphor is everything that is not strictly pragmatic, which is 95% of our speech

  • @JaredVargason
    @JaredVargason 7 років тому +3

    Love these videos!

  • @timadamson3378
    @timadamson3378 7 років тому

    Metaphors reflect how we think, not just how we speak. Her first premise that we don't really mean what we say when we use metaphors is inaccurate. We mean it because it is how we make sense of things. When I said above that metaphors "reflect" how we think I meant it, because the metaphor that knowing is seeing is embedded into our ways of thinking about knowing. "See" what I mean?

  • @ashpi7787
    @ashpi7787 6 років тому

    The idea behind those videos is pretty cool but, trying to make philosophical notions understandable in 5 minutes is really ambitious..

  • @nickgotvideo1
    @nickgotvideo1 7 років тому

    'a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable' - i just saved you 5.34 of you life

  • @franciscopacora
    @franciscopacora 6 років тому

    hey you had something great going! How come you stop posting videos????

  • @TheMaxlizzy
    @TheMaxlizzy 7 років тому

    people acting dumb are often very intelligent which is also a metaphor

  • @MrDawnRise
    @MrDawnRise 6 років тому

    Eliot. . .stop looking at that man like that - it looks (metaphorically) like you want to wear his skin.

  • @5jones
    @5jones 7 років тому

    Maybe people gravitated to one another because their taste buds were the same and they could understand each other's metaphor.

  • @micahalexander
    @micahalexander 7 років тому

    Let's go ahead and work on the sound for the next video, mkay?

  • @justinlacek1481
    @justinlacek1481 4 роки тому

    She is incredibly beautiful and enthralling

  • @LateNotes
    @LateNotes 7 років тому

    why didn't you make more videos??!!!

  • @dschubba11
    @dschubba11 7 років тому

    Where's the penned graphic layer for 5:10?

  • @ibraheemmoosa
    @ibraheemmoosa 7 років тому

    If I was there I would also have sit there like Eliot.

  • @jesusmendozagalindo4607
    @jesusmendozagalindo4607 7 років тому

    You need to make the translation in spanish please.

  • @GeorgiyLiluashvili
    @GeorgiyLiluashvili 7 років тому +1

    Subtitles please, in Russia, too, are watching)

  • @exrgy1490
    @exrgy1490 7 років тому +3

    Кек лол Арбидол

    • @exrgy1490
      @exrgy1490 7 років тому

      Интересно, хоть кто-то полез в переводчик это переводить? Привет от geek empire)

  • @buhduhbuhduh
    @buhduhbuhduh 7 років тому

    man James Franco just doesn't stop surprising me with his wonderful mind

  • @-Pyf-
    @-Pyf- 7 років тому +1

    Dude philosophy lmao

  • @Shadows613
    @Shadows613 7 років тому

    Est-il possible d'avoir des sous-titres en Français?

  • @kurtbognar6806
    @kurtbognar6806 7 років тому

    get a GD mic with wind protection

  • @TheFlameGarden
    @TheFlameGarden 6 років тому

    why the fuck is phil on the show?

  • @TheSlimShadyBoy
    @TheSlimShadyBoy 7 років тому +1

    Qui est là grâce a Hitek ?

  • @MarkAhrens-HeritageFilms
    @MarkAhrens-HeritageFilms 7 років тому

    Metaphor helps to communicate ideas without limiting them to the encumbrances of specific definition. This is why poetry can be so effective in delivery subtleties. Pointing towards something rather than defining sharply. One may argue that there is safety in vague speech; but in the context of philosophical discourse, beware of walled ideas and the limits of language.

  • @fcspikeit
    @fcspikeit 7 років тому

    She lost it when she said even if they taste the wine they may not have the same taste as you do. If that is a worry, then how could any metaphor be better? I mean how could you trust what is being used in the metaphor is exactly the same?

    • @billytalty
      @billytalty 7 років тому

      Ezra Ch:9 you can't unless you have justification for believing that in the context of your speech others will understand the metaphor in the same way you are intending it to be understood.
      Certainty of that is useless. But I think that is where her pause comes in, because of W.V.O. Quine's bunny situation and the Arguments for skepticism.

  • @imaginationscene
    @imaginationscene 7 років тому +1

    woah dude... cool.

  • @Brajuh
    @Brajuh 7 років тому

    i cant watch James Franco without thinking he is 10 time higher then i am. and im always high lol. pineapple express has clouded my view of him.

  • @mcep
    @mcep 7 років тому

    Q: "What's a metaphor?"
    A: "Feedin' cows."
    ;^) Sorry about that.

  • @ConceptHut
    @ConceptHut 7 років тому

    Metaphor in use: Bob and Joe had a debate and Bob steamrolled right over Joe.

  • @dualsportdadz
    @dualsportdadz 7 років тому

    I believe that metaphor can be effective because it "speaks" to our more primitive neurological structures-those that operate primarily with emotional communication/intelligence.

  • @mors9757
    @mors9757 7 років тому

    Keen on future episodes

  • @romyceron8981
    @romyceron8981 7 років тому

    Would be perfect if they included subtitles for those who also speak Spanish because there are terms that I can not fully understand.
    Congratulations on this initiative.

  • @guigui356
    @guigui356 7 років тому

    Haha a simple definition of metaphore can be : a comparison without any comparison tool. She is not clear at all !

  • @dmitriivanov3439
    @dmitriivanov3439 7 років тому

    Memes are somewhat metaphorical in the sense that they can be better at evoking a specific emotional response.

  • @SuperShayan4
    @SuperShayan4 7 років тому

    Eliot the mouse 😉

  • @commesargehy9164
    @commesargehy9164 7 років тому +10

    i swear philosophy is just 'take a simple idea/thing twist it till its fucking diffucult to understand'

    • @omkars764
      @omkars764 7 років тому +1

      For you.

    • @dickpole2607
      @dickpole2607 6 років тому +1

      I think math is just taking numbers and making equations

    • @DrasticKDescription
      @DrasticKDescription 6 років тому

      Mary Kate lmao maybe to a narrow minded individual but not to horizon wide minds

    • @TheFlameGarden
      @TheFlameGarden 6 років тому

      i like the comments calling mary stupid
      i guess intelligence ends with the individual holding it seems nobody wants to share
      mary philosophy isnt twisting thing until theyre overly complex its opening up a situation, event, believe, emotion, etc and trying to understand the complexity that lies within itself
      unfortunately the human language can only express a certain amount of complexity and so most struggle to simplify the things were all thinking
      thats where philosophers come in

  •  7 років тому

    Te amo

  • @funkinfonuts319
    @funkinfonuts319 7 років тому

    Keep it up! Aaaaaand...subscribed.

  • @DanSme1
    @DanSme1 7 років тому

    SMH!

  • @artheism
    @artheism 7 років тому

    Love how James is high AF

  • @janekrasnova126
    @janekrasnova126 5 років тому

    Strange but very informative

  • @corentindietrich7104
    @corentindietrich7104 7 років тому

    Great video , keep up the good work !

  • @1ODYSSEY_
    @1ODYSSEY_ 7 років тому

    O, Hi Mark!

  • @johntyburski531
    @johntyburski531 7 років тому +2

    Dr. Affirmative Action doesn't know the difference between metaphor and simile.

  • @valemi2907
    @valemi2907 7 років тому

    I Love u James

  • @SoDamnFrostie
    @SoDamnFrostie 7 років тому

    more please :)))))))

  • @cala.r4156
    @cala.r4156 7 років тому

    I love this

  • @Yuki-rh1ie
    @Yuki-rh1ie 5 років тому +1

    omg she's SO BEAUTIFUL! the way she moves her head is MESMERIZING!

  • @fernandariosmeza3424
    @fernandariosmeza3424 7 років тому

    great!!!💕

  • @itannoysme3348
    @itannoysme3348 7 років тому +4

    She does a great job making her voice and mannerisms like a 55-year-old woman's. Especially the all-important vocal fry.

  • @gsz-v1v
    @gsz-v1v 7 років тому

    "I learned a lot", I usually say that when a. Shit does not make sense b. I heard someone speak but did not pay attention to them and c. When I want someone to stfu. I also throw the "that was great"- wait, kind of like a metaphor- I say one thing but mean something else! Lol

  • @Postlong2
    @Postlong2 7 років тому

    A metaphor is like a simile but less of a metonymy.

  • @spockrates7980
    @spockrates7980 7 років тому

    This is a beautiful premise, Dr. Franco. Please inject it directly into my retinas so I can watch a frame of it every time I close my eyes.

  • @gavinmcg2100
    @gavinmcg2100 7 років тому

    MORE

  • @Spaz12ism
    @Spaz12ism 7 років тому +6

    yawn... that professor surely puts her farts in a jar to smell them later and analyse it like wine.

    • @Spaz12ism
      @Spaz12ism 7 років тому +1

      Ok, sorry Patrick Halfman

    • @TheFlameGarden
      @TheFlameGarden 6 років тому

      she probably doesnt shes a language professor not a flatulent taxologist :)

  • @joeydubbs763
    @joeydubbs763 6 років тому

    Stupid is as stupid does. I actually watched this whole video which was a stupid thing to do & now I'm even dumber for doing it.