That montage of anger is basically every single time I use a throwline. Gotta start the day off right, with a solid barrage of cursing and unbridled rage.
Love this, I will master this method "today". I know it's going to feel great to tell a helpful co-worker who's volunteering to rescue my friction saver, to stand down, at ease climber. My old and tired carcass has got this under control. Good looking out MR. Holiday, as usual. Very happy about your smart tactics😁🔥💪😎
Ah thats a class technique mate. If only our lecturers at merist wood knew that one 15 years ago, would have saved us having to climb back up those big old oaks again at the end of our climbing sesh!!
The first bit of the video was me about half an hour ago as I was out practicing setting a friction saver. Tired on a limb about12 foot off the ground. Did fine. Then I tried on a higher limb, about 20 foot up. After I finally got the throw line over the limb (took FOREVER!!! lol) I noticed that I forgot to pass the throw line through the big ring of the friction saver. Started again. Several throws later... Everything going well...got the friction saver up... and then noticed that, somehow, I managed to get the cord twisted round the side with the big ring. After a several attempts, the only thing I could see to do was to let the cord down and leave the friction saver. Was low enough (was only practicing today thankfully) that I could use a long pole to knock it loose. Wish I'd seen this video first. Would have been something else good to practice. Do love your videos. Fantastic. Brilliant work.
You little beauty. Had a cambium saver stuck 12 metres up a tree. After a few expletives, not a good war dance like the one in your intro, nice, watched your video and plucked it out first time. Awesome
May the Good Lord bless you for sharing these tips! Now I can practice my friction saver installations higher than my Marvin pole saw can reach, LOL 🇨🇦
The first 45 seconds is soo true - whether we acted on it or not: it was certainly an expression so tempting to do. Tying the throwline to the rope prior to pulling it out could be another option to save a lot of time as a “just in case” measure.
Well Dan what an excellent lineup of tips ! all excellent. I would share a long story but I’ll keep it short and simple, I had this happen to me a few years ago, I tied a log hook onto a rope, use the log hook to get my line free, although I don’t advise it, because I forgot about the point😳 I did not damage my rope or rings but I thought about it afterwards. Joe
I am relatively new to tree climbing, but I am pretty experienced rock climbing. Used an ascender and a gri gri. Everything went perfectly. Cut a few branches. The last step was pulling rope down. I attached a lead line twine rope to my climbing rope because I wanted to leave the twine up in the tree for a few weeks to practice some more (found a great spot/crotch to top rope from). The carabiner got stuck when I was pulling the lead line back through. I went to pull the lead line back and it snapped. My rope was completely wedged. I was angry. Very angry. Haha. I threw another twine line up, irrationally, IT ALSO GOT STUCK. I literally set that line on fire with the idea of melting both out.--But I quickly put it out for fear of starting a forest fire. I then shot it a thousand times with my paintball gun trying to lubricate it. Tugged. Forever. Nothing. 2.5 total hours of futile toiling and cursing. Went inside as night fell. Found your video. Went back out this morning and got it out in less than 15 minutes. Took a victory picture. THANKS AGAIN MAN! You have restored my faith in tree climbing. 😆
I recall encountering problem where a similar, albeit simpler trick was. Same type of problem, but different piece of gear stuck ... Not even had main line up yet. Got the throwbag lodged in one of the consistently not-too-wide forks of a southern hemisphere podocarp ... so I threw another throwbag on the opposite end of the throwline over another fork two metres further up, and pulled line through there. What had felt like a throwbag wedged as snuggly as a well crafted mortise & tenon then proceed to be fished out with ease that belied the tribulations of the preceding efforts to dislodge the PITA Incredible how if the angle of pull is no good for effecting release, just how hopelessly ineffectual (at best) or detrimental (at less-than-best) the escalation of force sometimes can be ...
These are some really great tips. I’m not so sure might throw ball game is good enough to actually execute either of them. LOL I’m far more likely to throw a lower union and climb my forgetful but back up the tree.I do love the video though, thanks for sharing the knowledge.
i'm right there with you. though if the shot is real easy i MIGHT get out the slingshot for it, way easier and more accurate for me than throwing. i don't throw very often, so suck at it. on the rare occasions i using line access, i always shoot it into the tree. the slingshot takes a lot less practice
@@ClimbingArborist Brilliant intro Dan, i had a good laugh at that, 🤣. Always happens at the end of a tough Day, used to drive me mad. As time has gone on i've learned to have some patience and perseverance. I used to get my pulley saver stuck alot but not so much anymore. Are you selling those Arb shirts on your online shop Dan?
Always at the end of the day on Friday. First part of the video is absolutely spot on! 🤣 I've had this one too many times though and when I'm done, I always take the friction saver down with me.
Oh man that gave me a good laugh! Thanks brother. Nearly cried when mine got stuck in a ~110’ pine, but the tree gods smiled on me when I flipped the hell out of it.
@@KeenanBaird slingshots really help, easily worth the money, and if you need a really high shot thats hard to hold back far enough, your lanyard combined with a panic snap and quick link makes a nice trigger system.
Great video awsome ways to retrieve a friction saver have never seen it done before but like some other people commented throw ball game isn't all that good so my sorry butt be going back up tree like have many times lol
Hahahahahaha, that opening sequence actually made me laugh out loud ! No bullshit lol ! It was so funny, that I was certain that you'd end the vid with a laugh. When you said, what can you (one) do when you've pulled your rope out 'sans' saver, I was expecting you to say, climb back up there you total wanker ! That would've been the instructions I'd have issued on site ! Great little trick, well done 👍
Great video. I had this happen in a redwood just a couple months ago. My method looked closer to the first part of this video except that I had 5-6 spectators so I had to tone it down.
I suppose the only advice I can think of right now is to start climbing. I'm sure there is a way it could be retrieved but can't think of one off the bat
And the 4th option...cut the !#^@&*^ tree down! Good tips, thanks. I need to ask a question, what boots were you wearing? I've been looking for a minimal boot without the lugs so I won't damage the tree.
4th option, get the second crew member to go get it or borrow his/her line and get it yourself. If they pulled it out it's their responsibility to get it on our crews.
Yes, a friction saver will dave a huge amount of wear and tear on your shoulders as it 'saves friction', it will make your rope last much much longer, and it will avoid any rope damage to the tree
Today during the hottest part of the hottest day of the year, whilst practing ropes in the park I did a very foolish thing of setting and pulling up rope into friction saver , but not leaving any tail in the rope. So the knotted end of the rope was not heavy enough to come down with gravity. I have only started learning, had not ascended any tree yet and didn't have equipment for srt. But I did try to do SRT with footlocking for ages and couldnt make it work. In the end I did ddrt with other end of rope , directly into limb. No friction saver. I was forced to ascend tree for first time. This whole "ordeal" took two additional hours after my planned one hour of practice. I was so thirsty that whenever passers by asked me what I was doing I could not reply, my mouth was glued together, dry and gummy. But once I got up the tree, I got my rope and friction saver down, thankfully.
@@ClimbingArborist hey man, from the 17th of may there is a championship for arborists in the netherlands. Its in a place called apeldoorn. Here is the link:www.kpb-isa.nl/index.php/kampioenschappen The website is in Dutch but you may be able to translate it. Hope to see you
HAHA..LOVE IT DAN, ON HOW TO RESCUE A FRICTION SAVER..I JUST RESCUED MINE YESTERDAY BUT I HAD TO CLIMB..WONDER WHAT'S MORE REWARDING..A CAT OR F/S ? I'VE NEVER TRIED A CAT.
Thats me today...... my first time the knot went throw both rings and the second time i made 2 knots on my rope and now it doesnt pass throw none of the rings of the friction saver
Too many trees to climb in one day to have the time to set up a friction saver every time I gotta go up, concept is idea but not very practical to me unless I'm working with a triple braid rigging line or something very abrasive to the bark :/ Great video though! I Always love the cutback on manual labor
0:28 me every time I use a throwline and someone offers a helpful hint Edit: gotta admit I’d have creased up if the rescue line had got stuck solid and we had a replay of 0:28
Thats exactly how a climber throws a tantrum. Great instruction video for those who dont know how. A few choice words thrown in is definitely needed . Im a big user of the phrase for fk sake. How about you ?
@@ClimbingArborist while im otherwise being totally cool and calm . Ive sometimes thought maybe I need to claim I have tourette's to the customers after . But ahhh fk it ...assnipple
Love how you capture the anger in that type of situation 😡😭😂 fantastic.
That intro was so cathartic. Too real.
That was by far the best advice for retrieving stuck anchors.
That montage of anger is basically every single time I use a throwline. Gotta start the day off right, with a solid barrage of cursing and unbridled rage.
Every arborist out there knows, throw line rage is real!!!
Accurate af. Then your mate will chime in “you haven’t even done any work yet either”
Love this, I will master this method "today". I know it's going to feel great to tell a helpful co-worker who's volunteering to rescue my friction saver, to stand down, at ease climber. My old and tired carcass has got this under control. Good looking out MR. Holiday, as usual. Very happy about your smart tactics😁🔥💪😎
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The first 45 seconds of this video is exactly how it happens and looks, when you get your friction saver stuck. Lol
The tarp-kicking really nails it hahahaha
I agree! That and the lined up cones haha
Well he'll yea. Have you seen what they charge for those damn things lmao
way too funny 😖 stuck again / had some practice
unstucking friction saver
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This man's great taking time to show people what he's learnt
Ah thats a class technique mate. If only our lecturers at merist wood knew that one 15 years ago, would have saved us having to climb back up those big old oaks again at the end of our climbing sesh!!
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The first bit of the video was me about half an hour ago as I was out practicing setting a friction saver. Tired on a limb about12 foot off the ground. Did fine. Then I tried on a higher limb, about 20 foot up. After I finally got the throw line over the limb (took FOREVER!!! lol) I noticed that I forgot to pass the throw line through the big ring of the friction saver. Started again. Several throws later... Everything going well...got the friction saver up... and then noticed that, somehow, I managed to get the cord twisted round the side with the big ring. After a several attempts, the only thing I could see to do was to let the cord down and leave the friction saver. Was low enough (was only practicing today thankfully) that I could use a long pole to knock it loose. Wish I'd seen this video first. Would have been something else good to practice. Do love your videos. Fantastic. Brilliant work.
Sounds like a fun day out 😂
@@ClimbingArborist Was right frustrating but actually productive... lol I deffo need more practice.😂
Thanks Dan that was really great 👍🏻 you filmed that really well. All that’s left now then is to “go rescue that little bad boy!” ✌🏻🤘🏻
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You little beauty. Had a cambium saver stuck 12 metres up a tree. After a few expletives, not a good war dance like the one in your intro, nice, watched your video and plucked it out first time. Awesome
That beginning was hilarious, really represented the way you feel.
May the Good Lord bless you for sharing these tips! Now I can practice my friction saver installations higher than my Marvin pole saw can reach, LOL 🇨🇦
The first 45 seconds is soo true - whether we acted on it or not: it was certainly an expression so tempting to do. Tying the throwline to the rope prior to pulling it out could be another option to save a lot of time as a “just in case” measure.
Well Dan what an excellent lineup of tips ! all excellent. I would share a long story but I’ll keep it short and simple, I had this happen to me a few years ago, I tied a log hook onto a rope, use the log hook to get my line free, although I don’t advise it, because I forgot about the point😳 I did not damage my rope or rings but I thought about it afterwards. Joe
Fantastic. I just met you today at the comp climb today. Great trick. Thanks.
Great to meet you bro
It worked in 15 minutes. I spent hours with many methods including fire, paintballs, just all kinds of insanity. You rock.
Thats awesome, Give me a full explanation of what happened, how long it was stuck for etc...
I am relatively new to tree climbing, but I am pretty experienced rock climbing. Used an ascender and a gri gri. Everything went perfectly. Cut a few branches. The last step was pulling rope down. I attached a lead line twine rope to my climbing rope because I wanted to leave the twine up in the tree for a few weeks to practice some more (found a great spot/crotch to top rope from). The carabiner got stuck when I was pulling the lead line back through. I went to pull the lead line back and it snapped. My rope was completely wedged. I was angry. Very angry. Haha. I threw another twine line up, irrationally, IT ALSO GOT STUCK. I literally set that line on fire with the idea of melting both out.--But I quickly put it out for fear of starting a forest fire. I then shot it a thousand times with my paintball gun trying to lubricate it. Tugged. Forever. Nothing. 2.5 total hours of futile toiling and cursing. Went inside as night fell. Found your video. Went back out this morning and got it out in less than 15 minutes. Took a victory picture. THANKS AGAIN MAN! You have restored my faith in tree climbing. 😆
@@pearnold amazing!! Send me the victory picture mail@climbingarborist.com
I recall encountering problem where a similar, albeit simpler trick was. Same type of problem, but different piece of gear stuck ...
Not even had main line up yet. Got the throwbag lodged in one of the consistently not-too-wide forks of a southern hemisphere podocarp ... so I threw another throwbag on the opposite end of the throwline over another fork two metres further up, and pulled line through there.
What had felt like a throwbag wedged as snuggly as a well crafted mortise & tenon then proceed to be fished out with ease that belied the tribulations of the preceding efforts to dislodge the PITA
Incredible how if the angle of pull is no good for effecting release, just how hopelessly ineffectual (at best) or detrimental (at less-than-best) the escalation of force sometimes can be ...
I like your writing style... reminds me of W.C. Fields -- Ah yes!
Thanks Dan, very helpful ! Appreciate your time to make this
I just used the slip-knot trick to retrieve a friction saver that was stuck 65’ up - thanks for the great video (and all the others)!
Awesome Tim, I bet that felt so satisfying
These are some really great tips. I’m not so sure might throw ball game is good enough to actually execute either of them. LOL I’m far more likely to throw a lower union and climb my forgetful but back up the tree.I do love the video though, thanks for sharing the knowledge.
i'm right there with you. though if the shot is real easy i MIGHT get out the slingshot for it, way easier and more accurate for me than throwing.
i don't throw very often, so suck at it. on the rare occasions i using line access, i always shoot it into the tree. the slingshot takes a lot less practice
Thanks for the great tips! I know I will be trying to remember them the next time this happens.
Best intro ever did this a few weeks back I sure got mad
The throwline rage is real ... 😡
@@ClimbingArborist Brilliant intro Dan, i had a good laugh at that, 🤣. Always happens at the end of a tough Day, used to drive me mad. As time has gone on i've learned to have some patience and perseverance. I used to get my pulley saver stuck alot but not so much anymore. Are you selling those Arb shirts on your online shop Dan?
I am selling them but haven't got the black or the red on the website just yet
Always at the end of the day on Friday. First part of the video is absolutely spot on! 🤣
I've had this one too many times though and when I'm done, I always take the friction saver down with me.
Oh man that gave me a good laugh! Thanks brother. Nearly cried when mine got stuck in a ~110’ pine, but the tree gods smiled on me when I flipped the hell out of it.
bloody good acting that was awesome. Your techniques and tips really makes you a Master at this profession.
with every scenarios that kept escalating in difficulty I kept waiting to see you pull out the chainsaw
“Retrieving your friction saver is easy! Just use your throwball line” you seriously overestimate my ability with a throwball.
Have some faith in your abilities 😀
@@ClimbingArborist I try to, and I am getting better. It only takes me 10 minutes now instead of 45 :)
@@KeenanBaird slingshots really help, easily worth the money, and if you need a really high shot thats hard to hold back far enough, your lanyard combined with a panic snap and quick link makes a nice trigger system.
LMAO! That was the most accurate example ever
I thought the same haha . Very accurate portrayal of treeman rage
Great video awsome ways to retrieve a friction saver have never seen it done before but like some other people commented throw ball game isn't all that good so my sorry butt be going back up tree like have many times lol
Hahahahahaha, that opening sequence actually made me laugh out loud ! No bullshit lol ! It was so funny, that I was certain that you'd end the vid with a laugh. When you said, what can you (one) do when you've pulled your rope out 'sans' saver, I was expecting you to say, climb back up there you total wanker ! That would've been the instructions I'd have issued on site ! Great little trick, well done 👍
Love your comment Rob , glad you got a good chuckle from this one.
The DMM Captain Hook can be handy for retrieving a stuck RnR also. Used like the slip knot technique
very good. I stopped trying to retrieve them from the ground for this reason.
Amazing. Time watching was well spent. Thanks.
Great video. I had this happen in a redwood just a couple months ago. My method looked closer to the first part of this video except that I had 5-6 spectators so I had to tone it down.
That’s slick. Thanks for sharing Dan. 👍🏼🇨🇦
Cheers dude
Dan, what is your advice in a case when you tie the ball to the wrong end of the rope and it is stucked in a small ring aloft)?
I suppose the only advice I can think of right now is to start climbing. I'm sure there is a way it could be retrieved but can't think of one off the bat
Thanks! This is something you NEED!
This is so satisfying haha!! Great work
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Will rain hurt it? Can I leave it outside in the rain?
Treeman rage!!!! Another great vid brother 👍
Cheers mate, you got me out of a right pickle. Lincolnshire, uk.
I was already clicking the thumbs up button 40seconds in the video XD
Thank you for explaining it very well amazing work
And the 4th option...cut the !#^@&*^ tree down!
Good tips, thanks.
I need to ask a question, what boots were you wearing? I've been looking for a minimal boot without the lugs so I won't damage the tree.
4th option, get the second crew member to go get it or borrow his/her line and get it yourself.
If they pulled it out it's their responsibility to get it on our crews.
Thank you! You are awesome for making these great videos. Cheers!
Awesome video mate 😂😂😂 thanks. Very helpful
Wow that’s gonna save me so much time thank you..
I think I broke my computer by smashing the like button in the first 40 seconds of the video
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What sorcery is this,,, Now only if I don’t get my throwball and throw line stuck, we be good, Thanks for sharing.
Lmao at the beginning.....hilarious.😂....how many throw attempts with the bag Dan?
I've seen this technique before for retrieving a stuck throw weight. Many climbers call it the Golden Retriever.
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You had me at the intro! Lol
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Perfect! Thank you very much from Germany!
I clicked the like button before the first minute!
what kind of boot r u using ?
Hahaha i love the beginning of this vid
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I just started climbing and nearly lost my $120 friction saver . Is it really necessary to use one ?
Why not just a climbing rope around a branch ?
Yes, a friction saver will dave a huge amount of wear and tear on your shoulders as it 'saves friction', it will make your rope last much much longer, and it will avoid any rope damage to the tree
Pretty slick, thanks
Thanks, very helpful!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment.
Today during the hottest part of the hottest day of the year, whilst practing ropes in the park I did a very foolish thing of setting and pulling up rope into friction saver , but not leaving any tail in the rope. So the knotted end of the rope was not heavy enough to come down with gravity.
I have only started learning, had not ascended any tree yet and didn't have equipment for srt.
But I did try to do SRT with footlocking for ages and couldnt make it work.
In the end I did ddrt with other end of rope , directly into limb. No friction saver.
I was forced to ascend tree for first time.
This whole "ordeal" took two additional hours after my planned one hour of practice.
I was so thirsty that whenever passers by asked me what I was doing I could not reply, my mouth was glued together, dry and gummy.
But once I got up the tree, I got my rope and friction saver down, thankfully.
Why have I never thought this before.....
Amazing trick. You sir, have yourself another subsscriber
Thanks dude, glad you liked the video
@@ClimbingArborist hey man, from the 17th of may there is a championship for arborists in the netherlands. Its in a place called apeldoorn. Here is the link:www.kpb-isa.nl/index.php/kampioenschappen
The website is in Dutch but you may be able to translate it.
Hope to see you
nice tip! will remember that for if it happens
EXTREMELY HELPFUL. THANK YOU👍
HAHA..LOVE IT DAN, ON HOW TO RESCUE A FRICTION SAVER..I JUST RESCUED MINE YESTERDAY BUT I HAD TO CLIMB..WONDER WHAT'S MORE REWARDING..A CAT OR F/S ? I'VE NEVER TRIED A CAT.
Cat is way more rewarding because you get paid, stuck friction saver is just bad luck or stupidity
Good video. Good luck.
that happened to me yesterday, thanks for the tip
Very cool trick😯👍THANKS
Wow! Awesome tips.
only add on. tie a second throw line on to 1st throw one. Now you can pull either direction.
Great video.
I liked the video for the first 45 seconds.
God bless ...man..hope all is well as can be ....dano
Appreciate brother 🙏
Thats me today...... my first time the knot went throw both rings and the second time i made 2 knots on my rope and now it doesnt pass throw none of the rings of the friction saver
cool. thanks!
Excelente idéia, 👍👏👏👏
Very good!
Too many trees to climb in one day to have the time to set up a friction saver every time I gotta go up, concept is idea but not very practical to me unless I'm working with a triple braid rigging line or something very abrasive to the bark :/ Great video though! I Always love the cutback on manual labor
first part of this video was me yesterday!!...lol
Wow. I have a rope stuck in Tempe tree. If this works I'll be so happy.
Thank you !
You're welcome!
Me, every time I get my friction saver or throw ball stuck. Lol
😡 😤 😠
Too relatable
Tried your method and got my throwball stuck. Pls send help
Oh no 🙈
😅por isso a importância de escolher o lugar certo na ancoragem.
Lol, a bit dramatic but I definitely understand
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that was neat. thx
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0:28 me every time I use a throwline and someone offers a helpful hint
Edit: gotta admit I’d have creased up if the rescue line had got stuck solid and we had a replay of 0:28
That should have been an outtakes part at the end...
Thats exactly how a climber throws a tantrum. Great instruction video for those who dont know how. A few choice words thrown in is definitely needed . Im a big user of the phrase for fk sake. How about you ?
A big user too!
@@ClimbingArborist while im otherwise being totally cool and calm . Ive sometimes thought maybe I need to claim I have tourette's to the customers after . But ahhh fk it ...assnipple
3 hours later, "screw it, I'll buy a new one"
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Oh boy 😥 buy a new one oopppsy - Gain some experience
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Exactly how I feel every time lmao
Nice 🤩
That intro… 😂😂😂😂
Glad the intro tickled you 😃
I’m just curious what your neighbors were thinking while you threw your “tantrum” 😂😂
@@thecanopyclimber probably thinking ‘it’s just that weird tree guy playing with ropes again’
Genius :)
The good ol FSF (Friction Saver F**kup)
Genious!
Nice
That's some slick $&!t