Dissolving Duality
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Not that I couldn’t do this visually, but I was in a pretty dark room - I found it very clear and almost more tangible,literally and figuratively, to grab my blankets in my hand and do it with tactile sensation. Just another thing to play with.
I was able to follow along. It’s the first time in a while I wasn’t lost.
I found that I can "connect" better with a beautiful tree outside my window, but not with a pair of shoes on the floor, I have always found better connction in nature, ( preferably a place with out people or outside noise!!) maybe nature is a bridge between worlds because it is natural and effortless and just feels like creation?? blah blah, gratitude and love to Angelo and everyone out there
Super helpful! I can realize there is a mental image of "myself" when I try to find the subject... and it is pretty sticky! It's still hard to let it go....
this did it for me
So glad you have done a video about this Angelo because this is something I have been practicing. I wasn’t sure what it was because the mind was trying to come in with stories. I can now lay in bed and feel the bed and the body has one, no separation, no boundaries. I have tried it at the gym too, on the machines, practicing subject objects and then no boundaries with body and machine. Tried it with people walking past too, trees, birds, cars ect…. ❤x
This helped me tap into "it". I practiced switching between subject and object with diligence for a moment, and after managing to do it pretty consistently I tried percieving both. At that moment, something began opening up, and gradually and pretty fast, an INMENSE wave of energy came through. Felt like an enormous rush of terror and awe mixed together, as if I was in a roller coaster? But much more real, very intense... almost felt like I'd be entirely swallowed up, as if I'd die.
I need more. Thank you Angelo.
Silver bowl studded with emeralds
Transparent, cold-tasting water
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Thanks I love these direct pointers!
Super helpful teetering from subject to object like this for a bit, then hopping into both simultaneously. I'll be playing with this!
Trying it! Thanks Angelo
Love this! Looking at hands in the lap, the sensation also has a morphing location, all becomes one😵💫
In the visual field:
5:45 pick any object and ask, where does it feel like that is and where does it feel like I am?
9:08 put your attention wherever the subject is and notice where an object is. Now slowly move your attention back and forth between them.
11:27 see if you can notice the subject and object simultaneously. Is there a place where the subject and object overlap one another or can you keep your attention on them fully at the same time such that there really is no difference? Is there evidence of a bridge connecting them? Is one emphasized more than the other? You might come to this place where you can’t find either one anymore. Don’t stop one experience. Keep going back to it until it’s obvious.
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The perception of self reminds me of a quote from Alan Watts: “The sensation which corresponds to the image of ourselves is a chronic muscular tension, which has absolutely no useful function whatsoever.”
Fantastic exercises! These might be my absolute favorites. I’d love to hear any other nuances you could add to this. Thank you so much. 🙏
Great video. But how can you put attention in the subject when you are the subject. You can put attention in the image of a me etc, but doesn't seem you can separate out and look at yourself.....
Hi Angelo :) this is a great exercise! thanks :)
Simple and powerful; gratitude 🙏
Yes, we must actually do it because our common sense imagining is wrong, usually. It is always a wonderful surprise to experience it by actually doing it even if you think you know what the answer will be.
Simple and nice approach here I’m going to take this around with me for a while and let it show me thanks Doc!
The notes about taking it slow when moving between subject and object and smoothly moving between them (while doing all that in experience, not thought) and also using the words self and other, clarified this further. It seems a lot simpler to practice and follow along when the terminology is distilled away to the minimum, so that was very helpful. When percieving self and other at once in the vision, the touch senses open up for me. I wonder if it’s a barrier or part of the process as I continue to work on dissolution of self?
Thank you, this is very helpful.
Thank you very much شكرا جزيلا لك
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closer than close, dissolving completely, very intimate.
I don’t get it. I tried this exercise with a coffee cup and I felt like I was just staring at it while having no thoughts. I was only aware of the visual field and physical body sensations.
However, I became one with the coffee afterwards 😅
I’m just at 18:23 and laughing so hard because when I focus on self and then object, nothing moves. It’s hilarious. It’s obviously just a thought. Yet I wallow in duality.
And as I sit on the sofa with my legs crossed, I had to look to see if my foot and calf are still there.😮 That happens a lot now: not knowing if body parts are there if I can’t see them.
Years ago after working on “What am I?” for a few months in the forest, I stood up with a cup of tea, and there was no me, no tea, no sipping, no swallowing. Everything just flowed effortlessly, silently. it only lasted several moments.
I appreciate this description. I found that I got to the point of both subject and object being “connected”- then when looking for this connection it dissolved. But there still felt to be an ability to shift attention/focus between the sensation of me and the object. I would be grateful for more guidance
Thanks Angelo, so so much for this clarity in this simple and very effective method, and the way you communicate it. You are definately the clearest teacher and guide around this type of exploration , and are helping myself and quite a few friends right now.
As well as exploring ''seeing' or 'Hearing' I also often play around with and explore the mind stuff too. Even with eyes open or closed. What I find , is that the relationship within the mental construct too, shows up as subject object. i.e. even if its a thought story bubble that arises there is still a sense, or even seemingly a movement within mind, that supposedly suggests ( and almost forces/ needs a me to believes it) a position of a me here and the other there, (imagined person, emotion, story etc).
This type of clear 'looking' experiential enquiry, not conceptual, can help me to realise, or at least question deeply what is really going on. Its so obvious (and funny, ridiculous) that this believed separation cant really be true, as its obvious that its all happening within the same consciousness. ie. my head/mind space. So how can it really be true that there's a me in my mind relating to an other in my mind , and worse even have me believing its a real truth about what's going on.
This can really shake it all up. Then sometimes I can re look through visual field or other body sense fields and that seems to loosen up, further, the belief there is/or must be separation there too.
I tried it with a coffee cup and then with my dog. When subject and object combines it feels almost like a pleasant buzzing
Coffee cup here too.. when subject and object are seen together, the cup becomes.. more 3D.
Seemed to do it fairly well. Strong resonance going on …. Thanx so much. Keep em coming ❤
I understand the instruction, and it makes perfect sense, but it's still all intellectual for me
Was getting a bit discouraged with the training to experience non-dual in the visual field, but this one seems to work. I've had non-dual sensation for quite a while and couldn't figure how to train this in a way that made sense to me. You're a blessing, Angelo 🙏🏻
Whoaaaaaa!!!! 😂😂😂😂. That was quite and immediately effective here. I literally lol'd. Can't find any difference at all.
Wow it worked like magic! Subject/object merged following your step by step instructions 😊 But slowly they are pulling apart again 😢
Yes I do see that they are both one in the same in my visual field
Object is one experience, subject is another, but there is a very quick shift between the two and a thought made connection. There is no subject viewing object, there is just two experiences happening at different times, one is subject, other is object.
Wonderful exercise, thank you Angelo. Subject object collapse and then it goes. All sorts of sensations, sometimes thrill/fear and other times warm heart sensations, that get amplified through the seeing. 🙏🏻❤️
Thank you!❤
You just explained what is in direct experience. Thank you, I actually appreciate the understanding of what I am experiencing
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Thank you so much Angelo for your very clear, practical and helpful teachings. “I” have been living in non-duality for a few years now, but this exercise was nice in that it showed me more context and depth of this “state”.
I really have been appreciating your teachings of no-self because that is starting to occur here. Adyashanti has been my root teacher for over 10 years and I just found out about you a few months after he retired. He doesn't go into much depth of no-self, so I really, really appreciate you diving into this topic; eventhough, I know it's a very difficult subject to talk about and point to.
Thank you for your contribution and insight, it's really helping clarify experience here.
Namaste,
Joel
I’m glad to hear it !
There's fear when I do them simultaneously, but I will try to push through the fear
Meep!
Keep at it, don't mind the fear, if there's fear, that's just it. Nothing will happen, you are breaking the barrier. Trust the process, trust the practice. Beyond the fear there's immense beauty.
We are going to make it. Much regards 🙏
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Very powerful practice. wow.
This is easier to do with sound for me.
Oh! There is no difference, BUT I feel my heart expansion (energetics) looking to the subject. That is not even visual, and still makes a sense of me! 🤣
I really appreciate these focused pointers, so helpful to move us along. I'll let you know how it gores.
Thank you Angelo for everything❤.
I didn't get a reply for one of my email. So saying here.
Yeah, so in previous conversations I asked mainly that "if my mind convinces me to hurt myself in some way; then I should watch it, the doer, the thought, the sensations and not hurt myself.
But the same mind if it convinces me to be loving to all, be compassionate, then I should listen to it. I should say loving things.
IN BOTH CASES, DO I CHOOSE?
Do I choose not to hurt myself?
Do I choose to be loving?
If there is no choosing and freewill, then what is action here, who is doing the action of not hurting or hurting; or loving or not loving?
Thank you very much for your video's, hey are always very helpfull. If i experience the chosen object becomes sort of one object/subject or some kind of thing/sensation that seems to be one thing... but still a sort of awareness of field or still some thing that interconnects things .. but then if i become aware of that new object subject playfield .. it sort of goes away.. or falls apart..and then there seems to be nothing.. and i feel like relaxed and sort of afraid at the same time.. and then there is a strong pull and a lot of doubt.. and then i am back with first subject object practise.. and it starts all over again.. and so it kind of loops but then the looping becomes the object and then it also seems to push me back to the first object/subject.. and i am sorry that i cannot explain it in a simple way but it seems like i am creating multiple dimensions with this practice and they all end in a place of no place.. and then i get thrown back
Even the throwing back is part of the place that is no place loop that seems to try to throw me back.. like it is all just nothing .. exept if i start thinking.. but if i do not think.. it is just nothing.. it is just what it is .. sort of nothing .. and also nothing to do.. but it just seems that i cannot stop following thoughts that seemingly create the subject objects.. like i am a donkey following a carrot on a stick but cannot prevent my thoughts from creating the donkey and the stick
Every bit of guidance in this video felt relevant to me. Thank you
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In experince, it is always impossible to find subject it almost felt like only the object was being attended, yet there is distance. Whereas, with hearing/sound, sound is all, with some bodily sensations if attended like lightness, sometomes sounds like a far far aeroplane or women talking on roads would feel in my body with a ticklish sensation in the body.
Vision feild is harded to delve in somehow, but this is a good exercise to start with. Thanks Angelo, you happen to always talk about things that im stuck on, like the talk is tailor made for me lol💛
Would enjoy listening to your "Nuances" for this visualization exercise. Thank you.
Whoa! I’m scared!! 🥰
9:36 it seems like the subject is both everywhere and nowhere simultaneously, so it’s non-local. I feel like the only way I can do This is if I fully relax, like the tendency to try and locate the subject itself, needs to completely relax and let go.
Used to do something like this with the attention coming out of the eyes on to the object then reversing the attention back in on itself. Back and forth. The only problem with this exercise is I stop breathing for some reason.
When I move attention for the object to the subject, practically I move attention from the object to the body, especially to my face. So the mind assumes that the subject is the body. Other subject doesn't exist.
Well, this is interesting. I’ve been working on this since December with Headless Way’s two way pointing. But it just wasn’t clear. In 18 minutes, something just clicked. 😊
I find this difficult. Attention is going back and forth from body sensation to whatever I'm looking at.
Are there any boundaries/gaps between the experience of body sensations and what is visually seen? It might be valuable to try to find the “space” between those two experiences.
You can also look for a gap in the experience of sounds and body sensations, perhaps with your eyes closed. This might be easier than the visual field.
When you look closely, you might find that everything is happening simultaneously without any boundaries. This exploration has been very valuable for me, and if you can get past the mind, it becomes very pleasurable to sit in this space.
Everything appears and is experienced in Consciousness. There is no You outside of Consciousness to experience. Who knows what consciousness is made of, lol. But everything is the same. It’s no more substantial than a dream.
This is a fantastic breakdown with straightforward and highly practicable instructions. Thanks for making this video! Also, I wish you were on the Waking Up app. I'd love to have Sam interview you as well as have you record a series of exercises like this one for the app. I think it would be a very valuable addition.
I'm trying to remember to do the subject/object exercise when I can. It seems like I can focus on both simultaneously, but I wonder if I'm just telling myself that. When I go back and forth, my sense is of a subject that is more felt with other senses (proprioception and touch) rather then when I see the object, the experience is wholely visual. So in that sense they are hard to equate with one another. I have a sense that simply switching between the two will eventually yield some insight, but at least initially they seem quite distinct.
when I focus on the sensations in my head that are associated with the feeling of a subject, the question quickly becomes: who or what is aware of these sensations? which makes it pretty clear that there's no way I'm aware FROM my head
That's just another thought. If this experience is felt as Angelo explains, there won't be a monologue, just sensations and experience.
Yep. I've found it a helpful deconstruction to notice that body sensations (head, eye area, et al) are not perceiving visual sensations. Likewise for other pairs of sensations: the sensations of the head are not thinking the thoughts. The visual image of the hand is not taking in the texture of the table. Credit to Daniel Ingram for planting the seed: one sensation does not perceive another sensation.
They are both just "there" arising in a space of... space.
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I feel a sensation that feels like it's moving back and forth. It might be below or part of the eye focusing region.
Hi Angelo,
İ’m asking to be clear about the practice, the sense of subjectivity feels to be behind the tension in the eyes. that sense of subjectivity and the object that is choosen seem to be different ends of the same stick experienced smultaneously although they seem physically apart. İs it ok to keep invastigating this way ?
Thank you very much🙏
It becomes obvious very quickly that thought creates all division. The observer is the observed? Or morphs into there is no observer and observed?
All conflict dissolves.
@maggie, thoughts can’t create anything. Thoughts can’t think, hear, see, nor think. 😊
(I)dentification with the thought.
Hi Angelo, when I look for the subject, I can’t seem to find it. When I do the visual experiment, it seems like there is only objects with no subject. What does this mean?
I’m curious is subject for you guys just body sensations? I’m noticing the sensations of my face when I look at subject. It feels close to me.
@-Brendon, who is experiencing the sensations of the face? Where is that located?
yes, for me even energetics at heart level. Just that obviously body sensations don't have a location really....
Thank you for this insight, it is very helpful.@@cautionupahead
Instructions unclear. Learned telekinesis
There seems to be an impenetrable spot of tension in my medulla area, it FEELS as if a viewer is there, but I can’t seem to look from or at it directly? It’s uncomfortable, but not able to be seen
I've been investigating the visual field in regard to your pointers, and wanted to ask if it's normal for things in the visual field to start to slowly morph and shift? I'm not sure if at times I am either 'zoning out' or things are seen 'before the mind enters'.
Thanks again
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well......I feel like I do the subject/object all the live long day...I am aware of my duality. I am aware of my awareness and it becoming a subject. It feels like saying subject/object reinforces what I don't wish to do. I keep trying to almost impose my subject on the object willing them to become at least overlapped....difficult to do. So really? Keep doing the S/O gig?? Thanks
Ok Angelo, who is it who wants to know how 'it' went for 'me'?
Is the realisation “there is no self” sudden and obvious, as in, one minute there’s “self/object”, next minute it’s gone?
It can be but it isn't always
Thought No 2: Try looking at an object that holds strong emotional significance and then do the business.......interesting!
I become nauseated. 🤢
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