I want both of them to step down. When so many Singaporeans are suffering, they want to isolate themselves from the masses. It leaves a very bad taste in people's mouth when our leaders behave in way that accentuate the wealth divide. Leaders should live and lead by example. There is no need for material excesses. These two Ministers are bad role models for Singaporean children.
Actually many people are angry and asking many questions because many are struggling with the high cost of living and struggling to pay for their pigeon hole flat while seeing elites in PAP living the high life in such luxurious big bungalows in land scarce Singapore which is quite insensitive and an insult to the average people. 🙁
Shanmugam body language never looked so guilty... The fact is Soooooooo obvious, Rich V Poor, worst, already very wealthy very well-paid MP reap benefit out of their position in govt. back-stop controversy with so call 'review', which likely absolve any guilt, citizen lan lan carry on suck thumb
Singapore should let Thum Ping Tjin and Kenneth Jeyaretnam to run investigation on ministers K shanmugam and vivian - to show transparency and fairness
Good that this rumoured corruption was exposed and investigation underway. Even if no wrongdoing was committed by both, it will definitely leave a bad taste in many Singaporean's mouth, especially knowing those "humble" civil servants are living an extravagant lifestyle while many local retrenched PMEs are driving Grabs or doing delivery just to meet their ends need.
Extravagant? They merely rent a house to stay in. They are Minister level. Not low level low qualification worker like you. They deserve some comfort in life. Moreover, their spouses and children do have income. They also have inheritance from their rich backgrounds. So they don't just live on their Ministerial pay which is already lower than what they would have get in private industry. You lack perspective because you have been stuck in a poor man thinking. Think big, think rich, speak to more people and maybe you will see a bigger world.
.no one is indispensable!... especially if done something immoral...or worst, against the LAW!! many Talents are in the line...maybe get a foreign Talent since Singapore is so IN to foreign Talents!
@@antonette2113 you are confused. Sg can only survive under the current team. The People never give another party the mandate. So only they have the experience. We need to keep them in power no matter what. Furthermore, they are whiter than white
@@malita354regardless, if there’s proven to be no wrongdoing, what trust or quality of trust is there to be gained back? Is the quality of trust affected merely due to baseless accusations (if proven so) so much that it has to be ‘gained back’? Again it doesn’t make sense. People’s trust are so easily shaken that one baseless accusation (if proven) can affect them?
@Broskisnowski It still doesn't answer the question. The comment was "hard to GAIN BACK the same quality of trust in them." implying there is trust to begin with. So what is there to gain back if there's no wrongdoing? I am questioning his comment.
Punching a hole in the PAP’s image as prudent and frugal This kind of image - no frills, no excesses, no profligacy - has been upended by the controversy over the ministers’ occupation of colonial bungalows on Ridout Road. Ministers living the high life. Ministers lapping it up like the colonial masters of old. Ministers in ostentatious homes with sprawling, palatial grounds and extravagant land the size of football fields.
Because they are one of the most important people in SG right now. You jealous? Maybe get your kid to study real hard so he gets a chance to become someone in life.
Don't be silly. They're rich people who make a lot of money and we know and understand that. Have you seen LHL's house(s)? The only issue is whether something improper happened.
Is SM Teo the appropriate person to head the review? Senior Minister Teo, tasked with the review, had previously chaired a committee examining the options for 38 Oxley Road, which included cabinet members responsible for heritage, land issues, and urban planning. The executors of the late Lee Kuan Yew’s estate termed the committee a secret committee. The SLA’s press release also noted that Mr Shanmugam had informed a senior Cabinet colleague of his bid for the property in 2018. However, it has yet to reveal who that colleague was, adding to the atmosphere of uncertainty surrounding the case. As members of the same party, the People’s Action Party, would it not be expected that Senior Minister Teo knew where Minister Shanmugam has been residing since 2018?
@@Joekool88 Caution : we must never rock the boat. We must entrench them in power for yew, for me, for everybody. Without political stability, the rich foreigners won't park money here as much. Then asset how to appreciate? Our bungalows how to appreciate in price? So, I am saving you from sabotaging your asset value. Compare with the Worst in the world, sg has a lot of room to go before we need to worry
The property being vacant for sometime seems to be a kind of argument that leads to justification for lower rent due to limited demand. It seems a bit of a waste for such a large plot of land to generate less than ideal rental income for the state. If such a land area can only generate 5 digit or a low 6 digit monthly rental income, the ROA seems inefficient. The authorities should consider revoking the conservation status for such properties to free up the land for better use, for example building HDB.
@@Guyontheinternet_ Well, thats like saying you do not think it's necessary to fix your faulty choked toilet bowl because you reasoned that the fridge magnet is faulty too. Perhaps we can discuss the weather and celebrity gossip instead?
@@Niatnuom_Esiotrot Clearly that's not what I meant. What I meant is that protected forest and protected old buildings are the same. The are protected not for ROI but for culture and other reasons.
@@Guyontheinternet_ 1) They are not the same. You don't protect the forest for cultural reasons. 2) The houses in this case, the function is clearly for residential purposes. 3) The forests are clearly not for residential purposes. 4) It is clear that govt operates the houses for rental income, the expected returns are financial in nature. 5) The expected returns for forests are obviously not financial in nature. 6) In fact I would rate the ROA of forests, nature reserves & parks in general to be high. The returns they yield as a public good, for biodiversity, and environmental contributions are substantial. 7) You have made an erroneous comparison of comparing things with totally different function and expect returns. 8) You have confused yourself by introducing irrelevant comparison item, it has no merit and does not deliver more clarity on the matter. 9) Celebrity gossip is really nice and not taxing on the mind, we should really talk about that instead.
Paying lower monthly rent on a bigger public housing unit at the same time received PM praises as a honest Cabinet Minister with high personal integrity, of course one would always smile from now on.
I am sure the commission will conclude Ministers are underpaid and are now resort to renting. We need to pay minister fair wages to make sure they can at least own their own property to live in. Those ministers still unable to afford should be at least be given priority to rent HDB one room flat.. Let the full facts come out and let HDB answers why our ministers are given housing??
Whether guilty or not of any wrong doing, it is now clear that their wisdom is in doubt. Why need a independent review committee now ? Why not do everything openly and transparently early ? Why wait till questions are being raised then suddenly feel a need for independent review ? One gotta to ask if these elites are really wise to the mark ?
Just get both of them to move into the many other properties that they owned. Don't rent any goverment related properties when you are a high ranking government official to stamp out any chances of accusations simple as that.
Nothing wrong with renting and bidding and win and a bid. However, its a bit painful when we are told that we dont need big spaces to live in, houses are getting smaller, cost of living is sky rocketing, and our ministers can afford to live in 300,000 sqft properties. Its painful.
@@leejj9205 Not just Trust . We see their results . Thats why I don't question them anymore. Why question when I already trust? Towards the most efficient govt
Will the review simply be a statement telling us what they have decided without telling us how they have come to the conclusion? Without a public Committee of Inquiry (COI), this may be all we get. Ministers who talk - but just talk. No action. That’s thing about accountability. You have to explain your decisions. You cannot just tell us what your decision is without explaining why.
When you are trying to hide something, you can't even say the details of the bid, how much is "guide rent", how much the bid range, who's the snr minister they informed. They just looked so guilty and uneased.
It is not a 15k sqft but a 525k gcb. Perhaps public wondering Minister may not afford to rent a market rate for the extensive renovation sla done. Best is to respect both minister and public and give them space to fix the system
Wow, staying in such a Hugh House enjoying life. Meanwhile, the newer average Singaporean HDB Homes are shrinking like nobody’s business becoming more CRAMPED than a pigeon hole! Extremely Expensive and Tiny..
Im an average Singaporean and I don't agree with you. Our public housing is affordable and cheap without unfront cash payments most of the time. Get your foreign agent ass out of our country's matters.
Singapore ministers live in government owned bungalows and its people continue to live in shoe boxes apartments, sound perfectly alright and fair. No need to debate.
Shan doesn’t look stressed. Shoulders are relaxed. There is involuntary glee in his smile… like he has won the lottery. He might have gone on the fast lane but stayed within the speed limit. Dogs need to find a proper tree to bark at. A rich man’s distraction to what’s really happening with the cost of living crisis.
The uproar has provoked parliament members across the political spectrum to table questions set to be discussed in the upcoming parliamentary session in July. Meanwhile, the Workers’ Party is pushing for SLA to disclose all relevant information, including the guide rent for the properties, in the interest of fostering an informed and balanced parliamentary debate. Despite these appeals, the SLA indicated in its 12 May press release that they will only reveal further details during the parliamentary sitting in July. While the undisclosed Guide Rent has added to the suspense, data from the Urban Development Authority (URA) reveals that the land occupied by the properties is quite substantial.
It wouldn’t have been so eye-popping and jaw-dropping had the people not been fed the idea time and time again that politicians and public servants in this country cherish prudence and frugality, and eschew flamboyance and extravagance. The narrative is that the PAP is prudent in husbanding Singapore’s reserves, unlike the opposition who are looking to squander the reserves. The PAP even wants to set land aside for “people not yet born,” and never indulges in profligate spending. Well, what sticks out in the people’s minds now are ministers cocooned in their colonial bungalows, ministers who live the life of the upper crust.
The problem overlooked is that those who are pointing fingers, hating and blaming the govt are usually sleezy creeps themselves. The bigger story is when one looks at who initiate, instigate and is doing the finger pointing.
Why are the ministers don’t stay at their own property,May be rent it out n then rent this super big GCB n gain from it🙏is this wrong? Why ministers need to stay in a place as big as this?😱🙏very humble 🤣
Yes, we should collect from social media what are the main concerns of the people . July is a long way away. Can prepare for rebuttal or handle the allegations
曾经记得一个在新加坡政治上很重要的人说过这句话：人民是我们的老板，所以我们会很谨慎的工作为人民服务。结果被服务的我们快乐的住在政府组屋而服务我们的他们却快乐地住在草坪大大的洋房里…… 他们忘了他们再怎么样有钱，也都是新加坡纳税人缴税得来的薪金！难道他俩有在私人企业服务过赚到能让他们租在大洋房里的钱吗？ 他俩如些高调是…… 为什么呢？i’m still wondering what is the “rational” that both them “need” to “rent” such a big land space housing??
We all know very well that politicians are often criticised for extravagant lifestyles, Minister Vivian Balakrishnan and Minister K Shanmugam should be more sensitive about this. Whether or not legal procedure was followed is not the issue. Living in a colossal excessive property when ordinary Singaporeans are struggling is the issue.
Singapore Ministers are clean and transparent. Nothing will happen to them so don't worry Singaporeans. Our Ministers have nothing to hide be it this case or the Keppel case or any case involving a Singapore Minister. GO PAP!
My only concern is why both minister required to rent such a big place as mr lky always mention frugality for the people. But it is really nothing wrong with how they spend their money as it isnnot public fund they are utilising.
They are earnings million of dollars. Of course they can afford it. Question is, their pay can't even cover the rental.. that says it all. Don't try to act as if nothing will happen. All are all corrupted
nothing to hide and kept to the rules...just like the pharisees in the bible saying legally and politically they are right but they are never right with Jesus to begin with so shan and vivian, tell all these to our Father God when u face Him one day.
Pap is CONDEMNED !! Getting Out of Control & Emperor knew NOTHING & Allowed Such Pardon for the High Ranking even Both No Wrongs & Easily can Afford the Palaces !,
❤❤❤I suggest how to benefit singapore coffers by renting out large colonial houses to hollywood or bollywood to film actor chasing actress running all over the property around the trees and running all over the lawn. Not naked of course! Hollywood can also film spider man jumping from tree to tree. So i think the future for black and white colonial bungalows is bright. ❤
INDEPENDENT! TCH is independent? You must be kidding. He is also independent during the family squabble of LKY property. Our parliament is becoming like a place to wash linen.
Haha..these guys are highly professionals..there is a reason why some of them are presidential scholars..they are far far far ahead from some individuals who know nuts about anything but bark and make noises in the dark.
My late father asked me a question. How to wash a charcoal to become white? My replied :To human that is impossible but To God everything is possible. Confess in front of God..... Everything is possible. Amen
They allegedly did works on said government property that were not supposed to be done. Also it is alleged that SLA did the works [which is illegal if true].
@@Joekool88 I think you don't even understand what you talking about, the rental for the house is on open market, anyone can rent it, there's no conflict of interest, as it is rental not purchase of land of ownership, the allegation is about unfair betting for it, which is not supported with evidence, but in order for it to be clear they allow open investigation on this matter.
@@Krying if the properties are on the open market, then why are they empty for years as shanmugan said? care to explain? and you mean the only bids came from ministers and nobody else? only ministers can afford? there are thousands of millionaires in singapore and 2 ministers managed to rent those bungalows in the same location. nothing suspicious yeah
As a minister, or a leader, there is the rule... ... there is such a law that you cannot trespass Istana or property but you see Loong collapsing inside, do you do what should be done? And as a leader... ... there are somethings you should do, and should not do... ... with or without rules. I don't wanna raise actual examples to push anything but... ... the result is this, people are seeing ministers 'following' the rules to use public resources... ... which is raising political issues. Are Shanmugam and Vivian seriously so... ... 'politically' insensitive to be leaders??? Just my honest 1 cent, as a member of public. Rules eh... ... ...
Let’s talk about David and Bathsheba . After David becomes king , he longs for Bathsheba . Yes, you are legally right but you have hurt the great soul of our PAP ideology .
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I want both of them to step down. When so many Singaporeans are suffering, they want to isolate themselves from the masses. It leaves a very bad taste in people's mouth when our leaders behave in way that accentuate the wealth divide. Leaders should live and lead by example. There is no need for material excesses. These two Ministers are bad role models for Singaporean children.
Actually many people are angry and asking many questions because many are struggling with the high cost of living and struggling to pay for their pigeon hole flat while seeing elites in PAP living the high life in such luxurious big bungalows in land scarce Singapore which is quite insensitive and an insult to the average people. 🙁
So you will feel better if they just stay in a normal HDB flat and go JB for holiday. 😂
Shanmugam body language never looked so guilty... The fact is Soooooooo obvious, Rich V Poor, worst, already very wealthy very well-paid MP reap benefit out of their position in govt. back-stop controversy with so call 'review', which likely absolve any guilt, citizen lan lan carry on suck thumb
I would forgive Vivian, because it is something he would do... but not Shanmugan!!!
Singapore should let Thum Ping Tjin and Kenneth Jeyaretnam to run investigation
on ministers K shanmugam and vivian - to show transparency and fairness
Yess I agree 3rd party shld run the investigation not Pappys... Ka ki lang......
@@evolution8662Don't you know the Singapore way is Ownself check Ownself meh?
Keke ok 3rd party please.
Panel of judges. Tan Cheng Bock , Chee Soon Juan, Prof Tambyah and Lim Tean..i will glue to the tv should they have a live telecast
Why do they sound so nervous
I can sense the nervousness in their voices...
Good that this rumoured corruption was exposed and investigation underway. Even if no wrongdoing was committed by both, it will definitely leave a bad taste in many Singaporean's mouth, especially knowing those "humble" civil servants are living an extravagant lifestyle while many local retrenched PMEs are driving Grabs or doing delivery just to meet their ends need.
Extravagant? They merely rent a house to stay in.
They are Minister level. Not low level low qualification worker like you. They deserve some comfort in life.
Moreover, their spouses and children do have income. They also have inheritance from their rich backgrounds. So they don't just live on their Ministerial pay which is already lower than what they would have get in private industry.
You lack perspective because you have been stuck in a poor man thinking. Think big, think rich, speak to more people and maybe you will see a bigger world.
Morally incorrect.....
Hope shamu never be replaced as Min for Law, Home Affairs and a chief of SLA. We must keep him in power till he decides to retire
.no one is indispensable!... especially if done something immoral...or worst, against the LAW!! many Talents are in the line...maybe get a foreign Talent since Singapore is so IN to foreign Talents!
@@antonette2113 you are confused. Sg can only survive under the current team. The People never give another party the mandate. So only they have the experience. We need to keep them in power no matter what. Furthermore, they are whiter than white
Give them to much power they like to do anything never think of us now we need to take back
Even their review showed no wrongdoing, it hard to gain back the same quality of trust in them.
Legality vs Morality.
Death penalty is Legal. Is it moral?
My political answer is yes , it's definitely moral
Your comment makes no sense at all.
What trust is to gain back if there’s no wrongdoing? 😳
@@sonofaphrodite4003 dude, he did not say no trust but the quality of trust.
@@malita354regardless, if there’s proven to be no wrongdoing, what trust or quality of trust is there to be gained back?
Is the quality of trust affected merely due to baseless accusations (if proven so) so much that it has to be ‘gained back’? Again it doesn’t make sense.
People’s trust are so easily shaken that one baseless accusation (if proven) can affect them?
@Broskisnowski It still doesn't answer the question. The comment was "hard to GAIN BACK the same quality of trust in them." implying there is trust to begin with.
So what is there to gain back if there's no wrongdoing? I am questioning his comment.
Independent review must not come from his colleague TCH who is also from the same party.
Punching a hole in the PAP’s image as prudent and frugal
This kind of image - no frills, no excesses, no profligacy - has been upended by the controversy over the ministers’ occupation of colonial bungalows on Ridout Road.
Ministers living the high life. Ministers lapping it up like the colonial masters of old. Ministers in ostentatious homes with sprawling, palatial grounds and extravagant land the size of football fields.
Because they are one of the most important people in SG right now. You jealous? Maybe get your kid to study real hard so he gets a chance to become someone in life.
Don't be silly. They're rich people who make a lot of money and we know and understand that. Have you seen LHL's house(s)? The only issue is whether something improper happened.
Image dent? Not at all. What image dented if it's Legal?
Hope shamu never be replaced as Min for Law, Home Affairs and a chief of SLA. We must keep him in power till he decides to retire
@@LonganLee paw lum par
Is SM Teo the appropriate person to head the review?
Senior Minister Teo, tasked with the review, had previously chaired a committee examining the options for 38 Oxley Road, which included cabinet members responsible for heritage, land issues, and urban planning. The executors of the late Lee Kuan Yew’s estate termed the committee a secret committee.
The SLA’s press release also noted that Mr Shanmugam had informed a senior Cabinet colleague of his bid for the property in 2018. However, it has yet to reveal who that colleague was, adding to the atmosphere of uncertainty surrounding the case.
As members of the same party, the People’s Action Party, would it not be expected that Senior Minister Teo knew where Minister Shanmugam has been residing since 2018?
Agreed. SM Teo definitely not an independent review.
Who is teo? Jo teo? 😅
Ownself check
New year he got invite friends to visit or not? House so huge. Can play golf inside the property?
@@Joekool88 Caution : we must never rock the boat. We must entrench them in power for yew, for me, for everybody. Without political stability, the rich foreigners won't park money here as much. Then asset how to appreciate? Our bungalows how to appreciate in price? So, I am saving you from sabotaging your asset value. Compare with the Worst in the world, sg has a lot of room to go before we need to worry
Even Senior Ministers need to be checked....
Ownself review ownself 😂 if still can got wrongdoing then that’s worrying😂
The property being vacant for sometime seems to be a kind of argument that leads to justification for lower rent due to limited demand. It seems a bit of a waste for such a large plot of land to generate less than ideal rental income for the state. If such a land area can only generate 5 digit or a low 6 digit monthly rental income, the ROA seems inefficient. The authorities should consider revoking the conservation status for such properties to free up the land for better use, for example building HDB.
@papkill5864 Why do you have to show your low intellect everytime?
Sg can survive without foreigners is it?
I mean if thats the case alot of protected forest also don't generate much ROI.
@@Guyontheinternet_ Well, thats like saying you do not think it's necessary to fix your faulty choked toilet bowl because you reasoned that the fridge magnet is faulty too. Perhaps we can discuss the weather and celebrity gossip instead?
@@Niatnuom_Esiotrot Clearly that's not what I meant. What I meant is that protected forest and protected old buildings are the same. The are protected not for ROI but for culture and other reasons.
@@Guyontheinternet_
1) They are not the same. You don't protect the forest for cultural reasons.
2) The houses in this case, the function is clearly for residential purposes.
3) The forests are clearly not for residential purposes.
4) It is clear that govt operates the houses for rental income, the expected returns are financial in nature.
5) The expected returns for forests are obviously not financial in nature.
6) In fact I would rate the ROA of forests, nature reserves & parks in general to be high. The returns they yield as a public good, for biodiversity, and environmental contributions are substantial.
7) You have made an erroneous comparison of comparing things with totally different function and expect returns.
8) You have confused yourself by introducing irrelevant comparison item, it has no merit and does not deliver more clarity on the matter.
9) Celebrity gossip is really nice and not taxing on the mind, we should really talk about that instead.
Guilty people always smile a lot 😂
You mean to say tt his smile obviously shows he has something to hide.
He is smirking at the common people😮. Even he evade human justice, he can't run from divine justice. What is hidden will be revealed one day.
@@wolf-insheepclothing23
It's simply means 'Karma'
Paying lower monthly rent on a bigger public housing unit at the same time received PM praises as a honest Cabinet Minister with high personal integrity, of course one would always smile from now on.
Typical snakes same script different cast
If a boys steals something from a neighbour, should the reviewer be the neighbour or the boy's father?
Well, in here, it is the 'father' who is considered the 'rightful' reviewer under Singapore's Law.
@@bowlampar father died already loh for a few years.
I am sure the commission will conclude Ministers are underpaid and are now resort to renting. We need to pay minister fair wages to make sure they can at least own their own property to live in. Those ministers still unable to afford should be at least be given priority to rent HDB one room flat.. Let the full facts come out and let HDB answers why our ministers are given housing??
Whether guilty or not of any wrong doing, it is now clear that their wisdom is in doubt. Why need a independent review committee now ? Why not do everything openly and transparently early ? Why wait till questions are being raised then suddenly feel a need for independent review ? One gotta to ask if these elites are really wise to the mark ?
We should ask Kumar what is the difference between the Ano ne and ahneh?
Could it due to National Interest , Security and Integrity ?😅
Singaporean 🇸🇬 needs an INVESTIGATION not an INDEPENDENT REVIEW
We actually know where this is going Mate.
Somebody has to go to jail
Since when people go to jail?
@@DarkPa1adin
KAYPOH
I was seeking for any opinions
MYOB can
Just get both of them to move into the many other properties that they owned. Don't rent any goverment related properties when you are a high ranking government official to stamp out any chances of accusations simple as that.
Nothing wrong with renting and bidding and win and a bid. However, its a bit painful when we are told that we dont need big spaces to live in, houses are getting smaller, cost of living is sky rocketing, and our ministers can afford to live in 300,000 sqft properties. Its painful.
No lah, someone said, you don't need big space to have sex.
Majulah PAP
Look at how a honest human singapore voters have produced👏👏👏
We trust them
@@leejj9205 Not just Trust . We see their results . Thats why I don't question them anymore. Why question when I already trust? Towards the most efficient govt
😂😂😂 wait for skeletons to fall out from the closet.
Why are government servants so rich? Must make sure both of them declare all their secret assets.
they change uniform colour from white to grey already!
Later it progress to black😮
See.......how arrogant they are. Should sue those accuse them and settle is court and not in Parliament.
Only these two? Can also check on others?
Will the review simply be a statement telling us what they have decided without telling us how they have come to the conclusion?
Without a public Committee of Inquiry (COI), this may be all we get. Ministers who talk - but just talk. No action.
That’s thing about accountability. You have to explain your decisions. You cannot just tell us what your decision is without explaining why.
When you are trying to hide something, you can't even say the details of the bid, how much is "guide rent", how much the bid range, who's the snr minister they informed. They just looked so guilty and uneased.
publish how much rental they pay
of course you are glad - pap investigates pap , goalies of both sides from the same team
Score own goal!!
Thats why both looked so relief
It is not a 15k sqft but a 525k gcb. Perhaps public wondering Minister may not afford to rent a market rate for the extensive renovation sla done. Best is to respect both minister and public and give them space to fix the system
Wow, staying in such a Hugh House enjoying life. Meanwhile, the newer average Singaporean HDB Homes are shrinking like nobody’s business becoming more CRAMPED than a pigeon hole!
Extremely Expensive and Tiny..
Im an average Singaporean and I don't agree with you. Our public housing is affordable and cheap without unfront cash payments most of the time.
Get your foreign agent ass out of our country's matters.
Singapore ministers live in government owned bungalows and its people continue to live in shoe boxes apartments, sound perfectly alright and fair. No need to debate.
Wow, what's the issue here? Anyone can simplify
Putting aside the question of wrongdoing, why would these two public servants need to rent such luxurious properties? 😂
Why not? Where does it say MPs have to be poor? They are some of the best paid MPs in the world
You want them to pretend to be poor like 3rd world countries?
We must not ask how many more are doing the same, if any. We must try to downplay this for the sake of political stability
The place is easier to plan security contingent for them and their families.
Highly paid so no corruption ma
Shan doesn’t look stressed. Shoulders are relaxed. There is involuntary glee in his smile… like he has won the lottery. He might have gone on the fast lane but stayed within the speed limit. Dogs need to find a proper tree to bark at. A rich man’s distraction to what’s really happening with the cost of living crisis.
The uproar has provoked parliament members across the political spectrum to table questions set to be discussed in the upcoming parliamentary session in July. Meanwhile, the Workers’ Party is pushing for SLA to disclose all relevant information, including the guide rent for the properties, in the interest of fostering an informed and balanced parliamentary debate.
Despite these appeals, the SLA indicated in its 12 May press release that they will only reveal further details during the parliamentary sitting in July.
While the undisclosed Guide Rent has added to the suspense, data from the Urban Development Authority (URA) reveals that the land occupied by the properties is quite substantial.
We must not suspect there is Complacency and Kawan kawan
Time to consider OMBUDSMAN approach …
I think July is a bit too little time for them to prepare to rebut the accusations. Hope it be postponed till after someone takes over the halima
spoken like a true snake 🤪
It wouldn’t have been so eye-popping and jaw-dropping had the people not been fed the idea time and time again that politicians and public servants in this country cherish prudence and frugality, and eschew flamboyance and extravagance.
The narrative is that the PAP is prudent in husbanding Singapore’s reserves, unlike the opposition who are looking to squander the reserves. The PAP even wants to set land aside for “people not yet born,” and never indulges in profligate spending.
Well, what sticks out in the people’s minds now are ministers cocooned in their colonial bungalows, ministers who live the life of the upper crust.
The problem overlooked is that those who are pointing fingers, hating and blaming the govt are usually sleezy creeps themselves. The bigger story is when one looks at who initiate, instigate and is doing the finger pointing.
Hopefully PM not make a mockery of Parliament again 😢 …. ie. Lee Family Saga
Legally right doesn't equate to morally right
I 💯% believe he is INNOCENT!!! 👍😎😁
I 💖 PAP....long live PAP 👍😎😁
He was glad to ask for an independent review and not the COI.
With ref to CECA and FTs
Can we trust this government?
Believe all manpower ministers got more of such assets.
Why are the ministers don’t stay at their own property,May be rent it out n then rent this super big GCB n gain from it🙏is this wrong?
Why ministers need to stay in a place as big as this?😱🙏very humble 🤣
Will any agency dare say anything against if any?
Even if they are spared later, public confidence for sure shrinking down to the south
The committee need to neutral.. suggest to include opposition members
Minister need big space while their residents no need big space.
Don’t worries! We have full faith and Trust in you always!
Yes, we should collect from social media what are the main concerns of the people . July is a long way away. Can prepare for rebuttal or handle the allegations
These old fashioned Bungalows in SG are just like those castles in EU if compare proportion to scale. Not bad, MP live like rajahs
曾经记得一个在新加坡政治上很重要的人说过这句话：人民是我们的老板，所以我们会很谨慎的工作为人民服务。结果被服务的我们快乐的住在政府组屋而服务我们的他们却快乐地住在草坪大大的洋房里…… 他们忘了他们再怎么样有钱，也都是新加坡纳税人缴税得来的薪金！难道他俩有在私人企业服务过赚到能让他们租在大洋房里的钱吗？
他俩如些高调是…… 为什么呢？i’m still wondering what is the “rational” that both them “need” to “rent” such a big land space housing??
I still think he's not answering the questions...... Always letting the review speak for itself........
Few countries in the world can be like singapore : Not based on Crony Capitalism and no Money laundering. The movie Crazy Rich Asians is outrageous!
We all know very well that politicians are often criticised for extravagant lifestyles, Minister Vivian Balakrishnan and Minister K Shanmugam should be more sensitive about this. Whether or not legal procedure was followed is not the issue. Living in a colossal excessive property when ordinary Singaporeans are struggling is the issue.
Everything pointing to a Self- induced Brand Upholding Mission ….
There is so much one can lie and hide. The cesspool will ultimately leak out🙄.
Very disappointed in Vivian. In the past, I respected him as a debater but now no more. Disgusting😐.
Singapore Ministers are clean and transparent. Nothing will happen to them so don't worry Singaporeans. Our Ministers have nothing to hide be it this case or the Keppel case or any case involving a Singapore Minister. GO PAP!
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CPIB should questions his son!
I ve have seen him before, not exactly the type of person you want to cross sword unless you've evidence in your fingers tip.
Kaki Nang (own people in Teochew) checking on Kaki Nang, how can? Is this the beginning of the end of PAP'S reign?
New discussion on Ridout on new channel *Table Top podcast*
The channel told me they got warned and took down
My only concern is why both minister required to rent such a big place as mr lky always mention frugality for the people. But it is really nothing wrong with how they spend their money as it isnnot public fund they are utilising.
how come not made known to public these properties are vacant, if not more will bid for it.
They are earnings million of dollars. Of course they can afford it. Question is, their pay can't even cover the rental.. that says it all. Don't try to act as if nothing will happen. All are all corrupted
nothing to hide and kept to the rules...just like the pharisees in the bible saying legally and politically they are right but they are never right with Jesus to begin with so shan and vivian, tell all these to our Father God when u face Him one day.
corruption
Sure or not??? Spore Ministers are above God! Never make mistake always abide to rules. Their heart is so clean.
They are clean. Majulah PAP
Every Singaporean knows that the government will not allow a property owner cannot rent a state owned property.
Like asking a fox to check a fox...what da f'ox!?
I find myself violated by Mothership deleting my humless comment. I wonder why? Area 51?😅
So they can't redevelop rideout for more houses/hdb but turf club can and 100s of people lost their jobs.
Why does this give the batman vibes like an untold truth 😂😂
Pap is CONDEMNED !!
Getting Out of Control & Emperor knew NOTHING & Allowed Such Pardon for the High Ranking even Both No Wrongs & Easily can Afford the Palaces !,
I Doubt WP pritam singh can ask tough questions tougher than non MPs can😅
Your occupying the bungalow is in itself outrageous....when you already have one yourself...
❤❤❤I suggest how to benefit singapore coffers by renting out large colonial houses to hollywood or bollywood to film actor chasing actress running all over the property around the trees and running all over the lawn. Not naked of course! Hollywood can also film spider man jumping from tree to tree. So i think the future for black and white colonial bungalows is bright. ❤
INDEPENDENT! TCH is independent? You must be kidding. He is also independent during the family squabble of LKY property. Our parliament is becoming like a place to wash linen.
What happens when ceca rent black and white houses with luck or with modi or xi ancestors connection ? Not fair right.
These 2 persons are very trustworthy.
From where you coming from?
@@eliasjasondavid708 indonesia. Trust me, you should be very grateful to have them as your Minister. Our Ministers are a joke.
Hope shamu never be replaced as Min for Law, Home Affairs and a chief of SLA. We must keep him in power till he decides to retire
Haha..these guys are highly professionals..there is a reason why some of them are presidential scholars..they are far far far ahead from some individuals who know nuts about anything but bark and make noises in the dark.
My late father asked me a question. How to wash a charcoal to become white? My replied :To human that is impossible but To God everything is possible. Confess in front of God..... Everything is possible. Amen
Whatever he does, he is always. He can change whatever law to suits them.
Ownself check ownself. Self serving Joke!! 😅
how is rental of a house an issue?
They allegedly did works on said government property that were not supposed to be done. Also it is alleged that SLA did the works [which is illegal if true].
@@Joekool88 I think you don't even understand what you talking about, the rental for the house is on open market, anyone can rent it, there's no conflict of interest, as it is rental not purchase of land of ownership, the allegation is about unfair betting for it, which is not supported with evidence, but in order for it to be clear they allow open investigation on this matter.
Even Shan has acknowledged that there is a possible issue in this interview. If you still don’t see an issue the problem lies with you!
@@Krying if the properties are on the open market, then why are they empty for years as shanmugan said? care to explain? and you mean the only bids came from ministers and nobody else? only ministers can afford? there are thousands of millionaires in singapore and 2 ministers managed to rent those bungalows in the same location. nothing suspicious yeah
Exactly! 👏👏
Hope shamu never be replaced as Min for Law, Home Affairs and a chief of SLA. We must keep him in power till he decides to retire
Ms Vivian yet again with his passive speaking voice but always cunning and sarcastic. For shanmugam let Sylvia handle him.
PAP can always do whatever they want 😂 Singaporeans voted for it ! What review ?!
Independent review
Appoints own member to conduct the review 😅😅😅
Wait for facts before comment. Don't prejudge like what Chew has faced in US. Be patient.
Ownself check ownself. Checked cleared. East spring squeeze trigger. Close dust cover hor. YaWN zzzzzZzzzz
Foreign agents make 90% of these allegations and opposition just pick these "concerns" off the internet.
Can we just put two wings and fly off....?✈️
They Represent the grassroots. Very humble elites👏👏👏
Hear their "explainations" also Tulan....🤮🤮🤮
As a minister, or a leader, there is the rule... ... there is such a law that you cannot trespass Istana or property but you see Loong collapsing inside, do you do what should be done?
And as a leader... ... there are somethings you should do, and should not do... ... with or without rules.
I don't wanna raise actual examples to push anything but... ... the result is this, people are seeing ministers 'following' the rules to use public resources... ... which is raising political issues.
Are Shanmugam and Vivian seriously so... ... 'politically' insensitive to be leaders???
Just my honest 1 cent, as a member of public.
Rules eh... ... ...
Their plastic Casio watch just for show
Let’s talk about David and Bathsheba . After David becomes king , he longs for Bathsheba . Yes, you are legally right but you have hurt the great soul of our PAP ideology .
This is a private matter and should be addressed with Press conference. Stop wasting national resource in parliament