Hi - I was the DoP and also VFX sup on this one (so, double hats). Again, an old video, and 720p was pretty much the absolute maximum we could practically do at the time. The video was actually shot on a HDV camcorder (Sony HVR-Z1 if i remember correctly), with a 35mm adapter, so even the camera original was not much better than 720p really, even if it nominally was HD - the footage was "semi-progressive", de-interlaced from 1080i. The video was shot in a green screen studio. The ground concrete, the booth of the fortune teller, as well as the ball throw booth were actual practical sets, but everything else is CGI. Using 35 mm adapters and shallow DoF were all the hoot back then, and on this we took it to as extreme as we could, to make the set LOOK like a miniature, even if it was not. I guess we succeeded ;-) As far as the colour goes, you were actually watching a remastered version of the video. A film student whose name unfortunately escapes me right now made his final thesis by revisiting all the VFX work we had done for the video, and spent additional time (months i think) in fixing and enhancing the admittedly sometimes a bit rough work we were able to do under the time restrictions we had. The original colours were more on the warm, brown side, less teal. Another noteworthy change he did was the addition of some anamorphic lens flares - I'm still not 100% sure I agree with that decision ;-) There actually was a Creative Cow magazine article about making this. It's not online anymore, so i uploaded the issue on my drive here (our interview starts at page 8): drive.google.com/file/d/1B60sArIcEje-4Y6B_qCKntofq3p5DSN7/view?usp=drive_link
Hi Halsu, Thank you SO MUCH for sharing all of your insights and experiences, this is incredible! Thank you for sharing the article too, I would love to read it, but I can't access it - I think you need to make it available publicly. The amount of work you, Stobe and the rest of the team have put into these videos is truly awe inspiring!
AmZn❗ Thank you so much for sharing this. Must be rewarding to know you've been part of something like this. I love the symbolism and use of theatrical effects to draw a possible history of this song. One of my all time FAVoriteS. This gives it more depth and behind the scenes stuff's always fascinating❗ Thank you, again❗ Greetings from Arctic Norway 🇳🇴👋
All of their videos are pieces of art adding stunning visuals to their poetic lyrics and beautiful music. What’s even more impressive I think is the fact that they’re an independent band who have been creating and financing their elaborate videos out of their own pocket for the past 20 years they’ve been around. It certainly helps that Marko, their singer, used to be a graphic designer before he formed the band and decided to become a full-time musician. They’ve also done many projects with Remedy Entertainment over the years, so they had help from knowledgeable people with expertise in creative design. There’s no making of, but I know it was directed by Tuomas Harju (Remedy Entertainment) and produced by Finnish film company Nitro FX. Btw, thank you for this great reaction, I particularly love to watch reactions by vocal coaches, lyricists, or film makers, because it’s interesting to hear their analysis. As I said, all of their official videos are worth checking out, but if you’re looking for ”creepy vibe”, I’d recommend ”My Dark Disquiet”, ”Choice Millionaire” (that one has a short making of), or their latest one ”Requiem For My Harlequin” next.
Did you read the ticket that came out of the Singer/Mannequins booth wall: Latin "Cor Cordis" (heart, intellect/judgment, mind/soul/spirit, souls/persons (pl.), sweetheart) At 14:48min in this vid? They sure made details, like hidden objects to find in all new views.
The moon made me remember a homage to Melliet's voyage to the moon in a Smashing Pumpkins video called "Tonight, Tonight", it was so inspired by that film that live they used Melliet's film as background for this song.
Maker of this video is actually the same guy , Stobe Harju, who has directed that Nightwish ”Noise” music video, which you were already reacting to, plus some other music videos. Also he has directed the Nightwish’s ”Imaginaerum” movie. This Poets of the fall: ”Carnival of rust” song, came out in 2006.
My favorite Poets song ever, and my favorite music video. Very good to see your reaction based on the video only (I often get in too deep emotionally focusing on lyrics and melody.) For me everything sums up here: "Don't walk away, don't walk away, when the world is burning. Don't walk away, don't walk away, when the heart is yearning." Sing along with feeling and you can't help but feel it ...the ultimate cry for human connection.
If you wan't "horror" and metal, make sure to check out "Lordi". They have a lot of music videos and make their own costumes. BTW, kids in 🇫🇮 usually start with music like "Hevisaurus", a bit different kind of childrens music. 😂
Thank you for you thoughtful and warm reaction. If you are more interested about the band, there is so much to go and listen. POTF got so many good songs, like Lift, Angel, The sweet escape, Myd dark disquiet and so on... And there is also The Old Gods of Asgard, their pseudo-band that lives in the Remedy-games universe. Please start from this: Old Gods of Asgard - Herald of Darkness (Alan Wake 2 | Official Music Video). And the go on with whatever song that band has developed. You could be surprised! Poets are like... Poets. Old gods are like 70-8´s retro progressive heavy metal band. :D
Hi! Really liked ur reaction to this masterpiece. If u liked references to old movies, then ur gonna love this one: Kotiteollisuus - Kummitusjuna. It is a low budget video, but u got some famous finnish ppl in it. There is also a making of -video of it. Oh yes, and there is also a connection to Nightwish, too!
If you did like this video... The Old Gods of Asgard is a fictional band based on same people and also have strange things happening! ;) Maybe not visually as interesting than this, but still those videos also are interesting to watch!
Good that you made a MV version. Live one is good too, but this video is pretty good considering how old it is. I also love Singer's voice. He announceats word's very well. And show's techniques that he has in his repertuar.
I think I read somewhere that one theory is that the carnival is like a place souls come to find peace or maybe even have their desires tested. Marko (the lead singer) sings of implication, insinuation, illwill and greed which is all a negative part of the human mindset and might vold the soul of spiritual peace. The girl is tested here and she caves and choose the doll (greed). Its only after she leaves the carnival despite the man in the box' pleading for her to stay that she realize her mistake and looks back.
I always took the video to represent the enticement, tribulations and finally the failure of a poisonous relationship. The gas mask was her sense of self-preservation? The doll represented a child? Makes me sad but it is an absolutely beautiful video and song.
There are the “making of” photos on the internet. The tarot appears in a few of their videos. Not sure if you know. The singer in the fortune machine is also the same person in the booth.
Finnish Rock and Metal bands' music videos tend to be on the slow spaced side rather than fast edit ones. Here are some you might find interesting: "Kotiteollisuus - Kummitusjuna", "ORANSSI PAZUZU - Uusi teknokratia (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)", "22 Pistepirkko - This Time", "Viikate - Korutonta | English lyrics", "Viikate - Alakulotettuja Tunnelmia (video)", "SENTENCED - No One There (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "VORNA - Tyhjyys on tyyni (official video)", "Kaunis Kuolematon - En Ole Mitään", "Kaunis Kuolematon - Tuhottu elämä", "Swallow the Sun: Don't Fall Asleep", "Shade Empire - Anti-Life Saviour (Official Music Video)", "INSOMNIUM - While We Sleep (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "KORPIKLAANI - Henkselipoika (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "Kaunis Kuolematon - Palava Maa", "Kotiteollisuus - Kruuna/Klaava", "Funny Finnish Hard Rock Video with English subtitles - Smartass by Kotiteollisuus", "TURMION KÄTILÖT - Sormenjälki (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)", "Shade Empire - Ruins (video edit version)", "TURISAS - Stand Up And Fight (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "Kalmah - Blood Ran Cold (Official video)", "Kalmah - Take Me Away (Official video)", "Velcra -- Memory Loss", "MOONSORROW - Suden Tunti (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "Before the Dawn: "Deadsong"", "Rytmihäiriö - Koska Saatana sanoo niin", "Rytmihäiriö - Spurgurituaali", "Kissa: Estonian Stallion (Official Video)", "ROTTEN SOUND - "Hollow" (Official Music Video)", "OMNIUM GATHERUM - The Unknowing (official video)", "Wolfheart - The Hunt (Official Video)", "Vorna - Yksin (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)", "Jonne - Pimeä On Oksan Taitto", "Black Royal - Pagan Saviour (Official Video)", "Verenpisara - Sinun tyyneytesi vie voiton kaikesta ", "Oranssi Pazuzu - Hypnotisoitu Viharukous (Angst)", "Wheel - Vultures (Official Video)" and "Apulanta - Zombeja! Musiikkivideo (OFFICIAL)".
Hweyll! You are a tad bit late on POTF. However, hey, not everyone is an old person such as I. They are criminally underrated, unfortunately, and always have been. Only one of their songs, this one, ever made it to the radio. Despite so many of the songs being absolute works of art by all metrics. The best break out that they managed to have was by doing soundtrack work for the Alan Wake games - the first. I have always wished that they would get more recognition, but that is unfortunately not how the world works.
If you want to do a deep dive to the symbolism of this excellent music video, watch "Carnival Of Rust | Song meaning and symbolism | Music video explained bit by bit" by the channel called Learn A Logic.
Manon Reeper. Us eyour computer with a decent software and apart of the usse of your mic, evereything else should be digital. The old shcool m usic doesn't sopund anymore good at all. I have boyh in speakers and in my headphones Dolby Surraound, and iyt makes the music so much better, but record the music separately, and then react if you can't get it otherwise right. It is an complain, but not in a bad way... more like an suggestion to you.
What I find a shame is how focused you are on the video. It's a MUSICvideo. You have not said anuthign about the music itself. And Yes I understand you are a Filmmaker, but you cannot exclude the music from this.
She did say at the beginning that she is only reacting to the video. It's OK if you don't like that but don't go getting mad because you chose to ignore that.
Hi - I was the DoP and also VFX sup on this one (so, double hats).
Again, an old video, and 720p was pretty much the absolute maximum we could practically do at the time. The video was actually shot on a HDV camcorder (Sony HVR-Z1 if i remember correctly), with a 35mm adapter, so even the camera original was not much better than 720p really, even if it nominally was HD - the footage was "semi-progressive", de-interlaced from 1080i.
The video was shot in a green screen studio. The ground concrete, the booth of the fortune teller, as well as the ball throw booth were actual practical sets, but everything else is CGI. Using 35 mm adapters and shallow DoF were all the hoot back then, and on this we took it to as extreme as we could, to make the set LOOK like a miniature, even if it was not. I guess we succeeded ;-)
As far as the colour goes, you were actually watching a remastered version of the video. A film student whose name unfortunately escapes me right now made his final thesis by revisiting all the VFX work we had done for the video, and spent additional time (months i think) in fixing and enhancing the admittedly sometimes a bit rough work we were able to do under the time restrictions we had.
The original colours were more on the warm, brown side, less teal. Another noteworthy change he did was the addition of some anamorphic lens flares - I'm still not 100% sure I agree with that decision ;-)
There actually was a Creative Cow magazine article about making this. It's not online anymore, so i uploaded the issue on my drive here (our interview starts at page 8): drive.google.com/file/d/1B60sArIcEje-4Y6B_qCKntofq3p5DSN7/view?usp=drive_link
Hi Halsu,
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing all of your insights and experiences, this is incredible! Thank you for sharing the article too, I would love to read it, but I can't access it - I think you need to make it available publicly. The amount of work you, Stobe and the rest of the team have put into these videos is truly awe inspiring!
@@manondereeper Thanks for your kind words - the article link should work now.
Oh cool, you can actually see the original brownish colour in the article pictures, I was truly wondering what that looked like
Thank you for sharing!
this is one great video and song.. I love this a lot.. thank you @halsu being there part of to making this... ands thanks for reaction Manon
AmZn❗
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Must be rewarding to know you've been part of something like this.
I love the symbolism and use of theatrical effects to draw a possible history of this song.
One of my all time FAVoriteS.
This gives it more depth and behind the scenes stuff's always fascinating❗
Thank you, again❗
Greetings from Arctic Norway 🇳🇴👋
All of their videos are pieces of art adding stunning visuals to their poetic lyrics and beautiful music. What’s even more impressive I think is the fact that they’re an independent band who have been creating and financing their elaborate videos out of their own pocket for the past 20 years they’ve been around. It certainly helps that Marko, their singer, used to be a graphic designer before he formed the band and decided to become a full-time musician. They’ve also done many projects with Remedy Entertainment over the years, so they had help from knowledgeable people with expertise in creative design. There’s no making of, but I know it was directed by Tuomas Harju (Remedy Entertainment) and produced by Finnish film company Nitro FX. Btw, thank you for this great reaction, I particularly love to watch reactions by vocal coaches, lyricists, or film makers, because it’s interesting to hear their analysis. As I said, all of their official videos are worth checking out, but if you’re looking for ”creepy vibe”, I’d recommend ”My Dark Disquiet”, ”Choice Millionaire” (that one has a short making of), or their latest one ”Requiem For My Harlequin” next.
Thank you for this!! I had no idea they're independent, that's truly remarkable and good for them!
There are many great videos for poets: hearbreaking "Dancing on broken glass", wild "Daze", amazing "Requiem for harlequin" and more ❤
"Dancing on Broken Glass" is probably one of the most gut-wrenching, uplifting videos I've ever seen.
Did you read the ticket that came out of the Singer/Mannequins booth wall: Latin "Cor Cordis"
(heart, intellect/judgment, mind/soul/spirit, souls/persons (pl.), sweetheart)
At 14:48min in this vid? They sure made details, like hidden objects to find in all new views.
I missed that!
@@manondereeperThought it might have been ‘Heart of Hearts’, a final plea for her to stay in the relationship she was walking away from.
The moon made me remember a homage to Melliet's voyage to the moon in a Smashing Pumpkins video called "Tonight, Tonight", it was so inspired by that film that live they used Melliet's film as background for this song.
Maker of this video is actually the same guy , Stobe Harju, who has directed that Nightwish ”Noise” music video, which you were already reacting to, plus some other music videos. Also he has directed the Nightwish’s ”Imaginaerum” movie. This Poets of the fall: ”Carnival of rust” song, came out in 2006.
Considering how small country Finland is I'm not surprised there are not that many world class music video directors.
My favorite Poets song ever, and my favorite music video. Very good to see your reaction based on the video only (I often get in too deep emotionally focusing on lyrics and melody.) For me everything sums up here: "Don't walk away, don't walk away, when the world is burning. Don't walk away, don't walk away, when the heart is yearning." Sing along with feeling and you can't help but feel it ...the ultimate cry for human connection.
If you wan't "horror" and metal, make sure to check out "Lordi". They have a lot of music videos and make their own costumes.
BTW, kids in 🇫🇮 usually start with music like "Hevisaurus", a bit different kind of childrens music. 😂
Hevisaurus - I never heard of this before but I love it!!! Amazing.
This is a very poetic song, and this great video won some prizes here in Finland. ⛄👍
Thank you for you thoughtful and warm reaction. If you are more interested about the band, there is so much to go and listen. POTF got so many good songs, like Lift, Angel, The sweet escape, Myd dark disquiet and so on... And there is also The Old Gods of Asgard, their pseudo-band that lives in the Remedy-games universe. Please start from this: Old Gods of Asgard - Herald of Darkness (Alan Wake 2 | Official Music Video). And the go on with whatever song that band has developed. You could be surprised! Poets are like... Poets. Old gods are like 70-8´s retro progressive heavy metal band. :D
This was their masterpiece, video-wise, but they keep making amazing, touching music to this day
If you want to react to another one by Poets, Daze or Requiem for my Harleqiun might be good "candidates".
Hi! Really liked ur reaction to this masterpiece. If u liked references to old movies, then ur gonna love this one: Kotiteollisuus - Kummitusjuna. It is a low budget video, but u got some famous finnish ppl in it. There is also a making of -video of it. Oh yes, and there is also a connection to Nightwish, too!
Official the "War" music video is great too, as is the "Late Goodbye", especially music vise too 🤘😊👍
If you did like this video...
The Old Gods of Asgard
is a fictional band based on same people and also have strange things happening!
;)
Maybe not visually as interesting than this, but still those videos also are interesting to watch!
Singer himself is graphics designer so i bet he had his hands in this too
Good that you made a MV version. Live one is good too, but this video is pretty good considering how old it is.
I also love Singer's voice. He announceats word's very well. And show's techniques that he has in his repertuar.
Sad you ignored the lyrics tho. Theyre also very good. :(
I think I read somewhere that one theory is that the carnival is like a place souls come to find peace or maybe even have their desires tested. Marko (the lead singer) sings of implication, insinuation, illwill and greed which is all a negative part of the human mindset and might vold the soul of spiritual peace. The girl is tested here and she caves and choose the doll (greed). Its only after she leaves the carnival despite the man in the box' pleading for her to stay that she realize her mistake and looks back.
I always took the video to represent the enticement, tribulations and finally the failure of a poisonous relationship. The gas mask was her sense of self-preservation? The doll represented a child? Makes me sad but it is an absolutely beautiful video and song.
There are the “making of” photos on the internet. The tarot appears in a few of their videos.
Not sure if you know. The singer in the fortune machine is also the same person in the booth.
I always took it that somehow the carnies were all facets of the one guy wooing the girl into his poisonous world.
Finnish Rock and Metal bands' music videos tend to be on the slow spaced side rather than fast edit ones. Here are some you might find interesting: "Kotiteollisuus - Kummitusjuna", "ORANSSI PAZUZU - Uusi teknokratia (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)", "22 Pistepirkko - This Time", "Viikate - Korutonta | English lyrics", "Viikate - Alakulotettuja Tunnelmia (video)", "SENTENCED - No One There (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "VORNA - Tyhjyys on tyyni (official video)", "Kaunis Kuolematon - En Ole Mitään", "Kaunis Kuolematon - Tuhottu elämä", "Swallow the Sun: Don't Fall Asleep", "Shade Empire - Anti-Life Saviour (Official Music Video)", "INSOMNIUM - While We Sleep (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "KORPIKLAANI - Henkselipoika (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "Kaunis Kuolematon - Palava Maa", "Kotiteollisuus - Kruuna/Klaava", "Funny Finnish Hard Rock Video with English subtitles - Smartass by Kotiteollisuus", "TURMION KÄTILÖT - Sormenjälki (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)", "Shade Empire - Ruins (video edit version)", "TURISAS - Stand Up And Fight (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "Kalmah - Blood Ran Cold (Official video)", "Kalmah - Take Me Away (Official video)", "Velcra -- Memory Loss", "MOONSORROW - Suden Tunti (OFFICIAL VIDEO)", "Before the Dawn: "Deadsong"", "Rytmihäiriö - Koska Saatana sanoo niin", "Rytmihäiriö - Spurgurituaali", "Kissa: Estonian Stallion (Official Video)", "ROTTEN SOUND - "Hollow" (Official Music Video)", "OMNIUM GATHERUM - The Unknowing (official video)", "Wolfheart - The Hunt (Official Video)", "Vorna - Yksin (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)", "Jonne - Pimeä On Oksan Taitto", "Black Royal - Pagan Saviour (Official Video)", "Verenpisara - Sinun tyyneytesi vie voiton kaikesta ", "Oranssi Pazuzu - Hypnotisoitu Viharukous (Angst)", "Wheel - Vultures (Official Video)" and "Apulanta - Zombeja! Musiikkivideo (OFFICIAL)".
Hweyll! You are a tad bit late on POTF. However, hey, not everyone is an old person such as I. They are criminally underrated, unfortunately, and always have been. Only one of their songs, this one, ever made it to the radio. Despite so many of the songs being absolute works of art by all metrics. The best break out that they managed to have was by doing soundtrack work for the Alan Wake games - the first. I have always wished that they would get more recognition, but that is unfortunately not how the world works.
Better late than never i say!
Such a great video and song.
Everyone interpretens those lyricrs in their own sences, but I think you're on the track.
If you want to do a deep dive to the symbolism of this excellent music video, watch "Carnival Of Rust | Song meaning and symbolism | Music video explained bit by bit" by the channel called Learn A Logic.
Go Finland!
Manon Reeper. Us eyour computer with a decent software and apart of the usse of your mic, evereything else should be digital. The old shcool m usic doesn't sopund anymore good at all. I have boyh in speakers and in my headphones Dolby Surraound, and iyt makes the music so much better, but record the music separately, and then react if you can't get it otherwise right. It is an complain, but not in a bad way... more like an suggestion to you.
What I find a shame is how focused you are on the video. It's a MUSICvideo. You have not said anuthign about the music itself. And Yes I understand you are a Filmmaker, but you cannot exclude the music from this.
She did say at the beginning that she is only reacting to the video. It's OK if you don't like that but don't go getting mad because you chose to ignore that.
Why should everyone be the exact same person and do the exact same thing?
If you like creepy/artistic music videos then check ODDKO. They also has "making of" some of their music videos.