Lebron will always regret not trying to build his dynasty in Cleveland. He will always be insecure because he knows deep down that he will never be respected. MJ did it in Chicago. Kobe and Magic did it in LA. Duncan did in San Antonio and Steph did in Golden State.
Lol I hate the LeNarrative that LeBron never had help, Bron had a great HC/FO in MIA and still ran, we saw what LeBron does to Rookie HCs, so why would Rookie HC Phil Jackson or Chicago FO be any different ..
@@kedrickd7because the Cavs the first time around literally did nothing to help build a team around LeBron. They wouldnt trade JJ HIXSON for Amare Stoudemire
@@hellraiser420 I can understand leaving Cleveland, but going to Miami to build a superteam is the unforgivable part in a weak Conference on top of that.
Without a doubt the most manufactured 'superstar' in league history. Maybe across all sports. The fact that the league blocked the CP3 trade to stifle Kobe but never batted an eye when LeAss formed superteams constantly tells you all you need to know.
What’s crazy is if LBJ fostered a relationship with MJ, I have no doubt Michael would have helped like he did with Kobe. Sometimes when you want to learn, shut up and listen
Brum isn't humble like that , his ego would not allow that at all . The problem is before he laced up for the NBA he was being hyped up and already on a pedestal even without the ball , but he played into that and believes that himself then the ego came then the flop the team change and the self absorbed attitude and Intitled way of thinking kills it for him and us . Rich fall doesn't make since and I can't take him seriously at all Lesosa is his guy and fills his pockets so that disqualified any thing he says
I don't think LeBron could have just created a relationship with MJ out of nothing. There's a social hierarchy in the basketball world -- if you're not in MJ's circle (as a billionaire, friend, or close associate) then you don't bother him. I could be wrong but I just never hear/read about anybody just reaching out to MJ like they did with Kobe, Hakeem, etc. That's part of why MJ's public appearance at the Top 75 event felt so special. Dude is untouchable. The reason Kobe is friends with MJ is because Phil Jackson put them in the same room together to give Kobe advice. Kobe and MJ think and approach basketball so similarly that they naturally created a strong friendship.
Micheal jordan in 5 out of his 6 finals championships are in the top 10 and top 5 worst scoring supporting cast for championship teams the 98 bulls were the worst scoring supporting cast since 1954, the 97 bulls the second worst scoring supporting cast,the 92 bulls the 5th worst scoring supporting cast, the 96 bulls the 6th worst scoring supporting cast,and the 93 bulls the 8th worst scoring supporting cast. Michael jordan is the only player in nba history to lead multiple top 10 lowest scoring supporting cast to championships so you damn right, leading a team to 6 championships under those circumstances should not be something that people ignore And let's not forget the great players he not only beat but outperformed in a series with no help. Like Patrick Ewing,Charles barkley,Isaiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Magic Johnson,Glenn Rice,Clyde Drexler, Dominique Wilkins,Kevin Johnson, Alonzo Mourning,Tim Hardaway,Shaquille o'neal, Penny Hardaway,Shawn Kemp,Gary Payton,Chris Webber, Dikembe Mutombo,Reggie Miller, John Stockton, and Karl malone and those where only the championship runs. MJ beat and outplayed the NBA mvp, the runner up to nba mvp,and the Dpoy Every year in the nba finals. And what about the underrated teams he played the 97 Bullets with juwan Howard,Chris webber, Rod Strickland, underrated defender Calbert Cheaney. The 98 Hornets with Glenn Rice,Anthony Mason, David Wesley,Dell Curry,.and Vlade Divac. Or the 98 nets with Keith Van Horn,Kerry Kittles, Jayson Williams,Kendall Gill, And sherman Douglas. The 91 76ers with Hersey Hawkins,Charles Barkley,Armen Gilliam, Rick Mahorn. The 1993 Hawks with Dominique Wilkins,Kevin Willis,Mookie Blaylock,Stacy Augmon. The 93 Cavs with Brad Daughtry,Larry Nance, Mark price, And gerald Wilkins. So the argument over the competition and the help he had is ridiculous
After the first 3 peat, the Bulls won 55 games (2 fewer wins) while Pippen was 3rd in MVP voting and Armstrong & Grant were 1st time All Stars. There was talent clearly there- not some dreadful roster you like to portray. From 96-98, Jordan had Pippen, Rodman (who led the league in rebounding), Kukoc (6th MOY), Kerr led the league in single season & career 3 pt%, while Ron Harper was a defensive menace & starter for any other team in the league. Besides Phil Jackson as well. The 1996-1998 Bulls are as close to a 90's super team as there ever could be- BY FAR the best roster in the league. PS- Jordan never won a Finals without a teammate who was either All NBA or All Defense. LBJ beat the 2016 GSW's who were 73-9, down 3-1 in the Finals, without a teammate who was All NBA or All Defense. Stop your roses of grandeur narratives. It is completely wrong.
@Reaper13-hi3yo I'm talking about the overall playoffs and pluse horace Grant and bj armstrong weren't all stars when mj was there and scottie pippen was only top 5 in mvp voting twice in his career and yes the 96 teams was brilliant but in the playoffs the supporting cast only averaged 66.7 ppg without Mj oh and by the way that warrior team that lafraud beat you can kyrie for that
@@Reaper13-hi3yothe 2016 warriors who were basically without a healthy Steph, klay, bogut, iguodala, and a suspended draymond? And where kyrie was the man in every 4th quarter? Great counter!
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
Yup, someone said if you take away his 2 with super team Heat, then he’s more so in the room with guys like Dirk, KG, KD, steph them guys. Which makes a lot more sense. Makes all the GOAT stuff just sound crazy too
LeBron can't even pretend to be a great or congratulate others for doing a good job , he wouldn't tell his teammates they did a good job after winning without him not a gOaT move , didn't go to the Kobe statue reveal he didn't even go to Wades celebration and I realized that Brum is like if it's not about me I don't want to see
Simply put, MJ accomplished MORE in less amount of time. The longer you stay without winning 🏆 will only make yourself feel miserable. Imagine if Cabron James won those 4 rings in Cleveland and never left in the first place... that would've been so much better IMHO.
Kobe isnt up there with Jordan im sorry, he was basically another MJ but he was worse, less efficient, even more selfish and couldnt really win for most of his career without shaq
I liken LBJ fans to Flat Earthers - both present ridiculous points to try to convince you they are right, even when presented with logic they hit you with their stupidity. 🤷♂️
How I never thought about that?! Flat earthers, people that dont believe the man went to the moon, people who say LeBron is the goat...they all share the same level of ridiculousness
This isn't a dig at Jason Terry but Jason Terry is a bench player and a sixth Man of the Year who absolutely scorched LeBron James in that 2011 NBA finals. He was busting threes and mid-range jump shots in his damn face like it was no big deal. That right there and did the goat conversation because he didn't recover and he didn't really lead his team back or anything. The only time he got a revenge is when he dunked on Jason Terry and then he got a technical foul for it. But by that point Jason Terry was on the Celtics and it didn't matter. Michael Jordan would have very much not allowed him to do all the crap he was doing to LeBron.
@@billdover3165 He also let JJ Berea get in his head when Berea was guarding him. One of the funniest things I have ever seen in an NBA game is Lebron FADING AWAY from JJ Berea...
@@nathancook2852 Big facts..JJ and Terry were out there killing LeBron James( who had a 8 pt gm and avg. 17 ppg for the series) Jordan dominant Finals performances is just another reason he is the GOAT 🐐 MJ never scored less than 22 pts in a Finals gm. MJ never faced a gm 7 in the Finals and was 24-11 win/loss 69% and LBJ is 22-33 40% winning pct and a losing record 4-6 in Finals series he would be worst if not for Ray Allen and Kyrie Irving hitting big shots to win Finals gms..Jordan hit big shots in 1991, 1997, 1998. LeBron James is not built the same way Michael Jordan was or Kobe was period.
Far greater.. the championships and MVPs not to mention the 50 pt gms also his style on the court and his clutchness( 9 buzzers beaters most all time)and every one( outside of Kobe) was scared to death ☠️💀 of MJ .. LeBron is respected but not feared to insane level of MJ. PS Nike would not be the most dominant sport company today without his Air Jordans period
Don’t worry ESPN people will keep selling than LeBron is better because of his longetivy. Also, it will be so cringe to see him in NY now than they are starting to build something interesting after almost 30 years…
He is smart with how he plays, I play similarly to him, I am a 6'6 230 pound Power Forward, small for my position but I know how to move my weight around, an offensive foul in the NBA is only called if you drop your shoulder into a players chest, if he uses his hand to push them out of the way sure its an offensive foul but he doesnt, he pushes off with his forearm or his shoulder because thats allowed, a charge requires the defender to be in a screen like base which they never are, a charge without that base is usually when a player is squared up to defend you and you ram into them. LeBron plays smart he doesnt foul, he knows how to move his weight around, learned that from people like Hakeem when Hakeem trained him to work in the post
@@Asterisk-hj4lx How about all of this clowns traveling and carrying the ball. Oh, and very little defense and hopping around with the ball like a jack rabbit. Refs are ridiculous.
There's nothing "smart" about playing lazy. His footwork and fundamentals are pure trash. Watch him try to break someone down 1v1. It's embarrassing. But keep believing what nick and shannon tell you.
Bro he conserves energy on defense NOW but not in his prime, he played really good defense, he also is averaging 1+ steals per game for his career including this season so Idk what you are talking about, he play his fundamentals are on point and always have been, saying his footwork is trash is just casual behaviour because he was literally trained by Hakeem for footwork and post play.@@mr.nimbus537
I agree that travels and carries should be enforced more strictly but that is part of the game now, sometimes you need an extra step but they wont call it if it doesnt give you an advantage, LeBrons spin layup has been controversial for this because he hops off one foot and lands on it again, meaning he travels but it gains 0 advantage because it is likely not intentional, carrying is a thing in the nba now because they dont really see it as a big thing unless you literally hold the ball on your palm.@@chipferguson5129
Jokic and Luka are ruining Lebum's best all around player narrative. I guarantee if either of them won 4 championships and mvps Bronsexuals won't call them the GOAT. 🤔😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Jokic, Luka and LeBron are all players who are better than Jordan at playing the game of basketball, LeBron created the point big and was also responsible for the rise of All Around Players, Jordan couldnt do everything, LeBron, Luka and Jokic can do everything, whatever they want on the court, sure LeBron now aint as good because he is god damn 39 years old but in his prime he was the greatest all around player of all time, before you say "Bronsexual", I am one of the LeBron fans that believes Jordan is the GOAT, Jordan simply had more accolades because he could dominate the game differently in that era, you dont really get players that are that dominant anymore because the league now has more superstar level players than Jordans era did. If you want me to answer anything just post something.
Important to note that Kobe’s last 3 years were riddled with injury. He also didn’t start until he was 21, his 3rd year, which was the same age Jordan was in his rookie year; that’s 5 chips in 14 seasons.
Lebum needs to LeBeg for GOAT status Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Bill Russell, Bird, and Kobe didn't ask for the public's approval. Lebum has no dynasty like the players I named he's an overrated deckstacker/team hopper. 👺😂😂😂
LeBron never asked people to call him the goat or said that he was, one interview that people bring up is when he said "I FELT like I was the GOAT" talking about the 2016 comeback against the best team in nba history, he never outright said he was the goat, unlike Jordan who Wilt Chamberlain admitted Jordan told him that he was the GOAT, which brought Wilt to say the line everyone knows "They changed the rules so I couldn't dominate, they changed the rules so you could dominate"
@@Asterisk-hj4lx No disrespect to Wilt but he underperformed in the playoffs unlike Jordan so he had no room to hate on Jordan. Jordan's stats and production improved in the postseason while Wilt's production went down drastically (averaged 8 less points in the playoffs than the regular season). Lebum said he wants his damn respect after winning the Disney championship against the injured G League Heat. Lebum has agents in the media to call him the GOAT as propaganda. Lol
Does it really matter if he wins or loses? He isn’t worried about ring chasing like he said yet this dude doesn’t believe. He wants to be the first player in history to play with his son win lose or draw
@@von1626 shaq did not have to dip his shoulders, he was just a massive individual he would get offensive fouls for being overly aggressive, stop lying, ur boy dips his shoulders everytime
It's always been about stats since 2017 and its the only way he can be in the conversation because thats the narrative his lebum employees aka Nick Wrong , Leshannon Sharpe, Brian Winbag, Colon Coward and the rest of his buttlickers put out there. The longer he plays all the analytics that hes a close 2nd in will be pushed farther away then he really has no argument but the stats. He'll be better off retiring at the end of this season taken the L that he can't catch that ghost.
Lebrons career just validates kobe and jordan even more because you can tell those guys are better but lebron is out of this world amazing as well. You cannot deny his talent but the intangibles are what makes the biggest difference with those two
Intangibles like leadership, forcing turnovers / bad offense for the opponent, playing help defense? All that stuff that aint in the stats? LeBron was a better leader than Kobe and Jordan, neither ever really played help defense but they both could force the offense to make mistakes and stuff, I just feel LeBron is better in intangibles too but Jordan is the GOAT, I still believe LeBron is just straight up the best basketball player to ever play but the amount of awards Jordan won cements him as the GOAT basically forever at this point, only person I can see getting close to the amount of scoring titles Jordan had is Luka but he aint winning no DPOY or all defensive team selections because he just isnt great on that side of the court.
@@Asterisk-hj4lx LeBron never was the best basketball player and never has a better leader because of his inability to perform under pressure and his lack of responsibility (blaming others for failure rather than him). Jordan played defense given the fact he was selected on the first defensive team nine times and even got "defender of the year" title to back him up (he should have two). Kobe was also on first defensive team and helped Lebron winning a gold medal in Olympics.
@@Asterisk-hj4lx Go watch is leadership in the final two minutes and overtime of first Spurs series. Just masterful. Missed shot after missed shot, screaming at Allen to pass him the ball even after Allen his the shot, and turnover after turnover. We all want a leader like that.
LeGM should just change the salary cap so he can make the ultimate Super Team to win the next ten years just so that he can act like he was the Goat. He should just go all out at this point
In the same recent press conference where he hinted at possible retirement, LeBron said that the only thing that he still plays for is the opportunity to play for championships.
While I agree, I do understand the NBA trying to hype things up. My problem is that Tim Duncan didn't get more praise. Jokic isn't, Doncic isn't. I think Wemby might get there, Austin Reaves too. None of them are the next Jordan or Kobe, but they deserve some highlights too IMO. We already had a Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Mailman, AI, Shaq, Zeke, Jerry West, Kareem, Hakeem, etc. You can't replace them so stop trying to compare them.
Theres always a “Next MJ” they come and Go. Some with more longevity than others. The Next MJ The Next Kobe The Next LeBron Will mean 3 completely different things as time passes (different levels)
At this point it's clear Lebron only cares about stats and getting to play with his son either in the league or on the same team before he retires. He knows he won't catch Kobe or Jordan in chips a long time ago.
Lakers fan here. There is no chance in hell that he will play another 5 year. He is gonna go down and clap quick next year. His joints and bones won’t age linearly over time. All it takes is one bad landing. He should thank his none defense for lasting this long. Lakers should trade him and get what they can before he walks to another optimal team
Interesting that you mention this bc that's the last thing I remember about Shaq. Him going up for a rebound, landing awkwardly and limping to the bench and announcing his retirement soon after. This is the last play of him that I remember when he was with the Celtics and way past his prime at that point.
@@mja4wp It would have made sense for Lakers to make the trade with golden state Warriors. Get Kuminga, Moody and a first round pick and maybe a pick swap or two. As long as you get few picks and a couple of young players with any team, would be better to just keep him and allow him so mess your team up again and again.
What's in it for the Warriors? nothing...thats why didn't happen. No one wants him...lest not for what he's worth v what he thinks he's worth @@Babak1358Shah
@@IsaacMSingleton1yeah, I’ve honestly seen people try to argue that 4-6 is better than 6-0 because “he made the finals more times” can’t make this stuff up 😂
@@thefunguy5069Yeah for Jordan. Just getting thru the East back then was tough. The queen played in the "LEastern Conference" for years with no real competition. Then gets to the finals and has his ass handed to him...
It's one thing for the media to create the goat debate and a ton of narratives for lebron. It's another thing completely for lebron and his camp to actually believe the fake narratives. I can't say that I don't appreciate lebron, but I can say that I don't respect anything about him
Lebranda dyes his beard and shoots peds all day, the goat mj just stuck around in Washington for the love of the game, RESPECT lasheep 20 yrs still chasing his airnesss
Lebron needs to realize and admit that Larry Legend would ALSO dominate him.... MJ had waaaay more trouble with Larry than he ever had with Lebron.... and MJ gladly admits those facts... A lot of people don't take into consideration that Larry did not say good things about his competitors, but he didn't bad mouth them really either other than trash talkin out on the court.. But he broke his rule and years before MJ ever really started to shine, Larry called it on the money saying MJ was the next Super Star to be out front in the NBA... Larry saw this, felt this and knew this years before anybody even thought about or looked at MJ like that.
Ive been saying that too...Larry dominated everyone in his era...as you say, including MJ...who, though he valiantly tried, could not get past Birds Celtics in the East
If LeDoubleTalk doesn’t think Championships matter, why did he say coming back down 3-1 to win one made him the GOAT? Shouldn’t that have just been any other set of games??? Since chips don’t matter? Which is it?!?
Giannis is following in his footsteps, trying to control the team and org to force a certain outcome. What both don't realize and what I hope Giannis learns (don't think Lebron will) is that the grass can never be greener if you're trampling all over it looking across the fence. Work within. That's the part of the mamba mentality that escapes GM-wannabes
Lebron is great, but he's too narcissistic. I dunno bout yall, but when a man literally says "I want my damn respect too." you get absolutely no respect.
It's crazy when you got reporters signed to clutch sports Mr not 5 not 6 not 7 is suddenly not chasing championships winning the in season tournament then sending something on Instagram saying you 1 away from Michael
Jordan and kobe didnt run from the grind of staying on one team getting everybody on the same to make them a championship quality team thats what makes them both better players then lebron.
People don't understand the Lakers weren't a championship team until the young Kobe took over their team. As Shaq has said, Phil came and said alright, it's over, be back next year, and the only guy who stopped up was the 21 year old Kobe Bryant. Kobe and Shaq learned to win TOGETHER, MJ AND PIPPEN TOGETHER. Dwade won without LeBron, and then LeBron joined him to learn how to win. Those guys built it while LeBron joined it, and nobody besides LeBron is allowed to live that down. Just see kawhi and KD
@@IsaacMSingleton1 Kobe was robin, at best to Shaq's superman. Shaq carried, especially the first two. Kobe shot 41.5% or lower in 3 of 4 finals with Shaq, and he shot 43% or lower in 6 of 7 finals...
@@nathancook2852 wow field goal percentage 😂 Kobe didn't have the benefit of having multiple scorers and knockdown shooters to play with and force the defense to space out, he had shaq, who was pulling the defense into the paint, forcing Kobe to live in the midrange and 3 point area. Same exact scenario with Pau, he isn't going to force those guys out of the paint to get an open lane, he is going to play around their skillset and get his points. I also could care less about field goal percentage, he was a shooting guard carrying the offensive and defensive load on the perimeter, against players like Allen Iverson, reggie miller, Paul pierce, Tony Allen. All you can do is hold his field goal percentage over my head, you couldn't even deny he was the reason they became champions 😂
@@nathancook2852 this is also what made someone like MJ so special, he didn't need a dominate scoring big in the paint, opening up attacking lanes for him, Kobe had Shaq, he didn't join shaq, and learned how to maximize himself for the team, to win a title. Kobe was forced to play a more perimeter orientated game, and still was able to dominate the floor. Kobe is 1 of the best to ever do it, no matter how much it bothers you, or how much you talk field goal percentages.
He can honestly do w.e he wants lol hes just another fringe star. He would need to build a perfect team to win the chip. There's a lot of talent out there. Its not just the same 4 or 5 teams every year and he dont know what to do 😂 He can't figure out what team might win next since theres like 10.
2:54 people forget they KD going to golden state only happened because steph gave the go-ahead in all aspects... He sacrificed his own stats so that KD could do his thing and get those finals MVPs GSE doesnt even talk to KD if Steph doesnt cosign everything
If Ramon wins another title, realistically is only 4. Even in strike shortened seasons, All the stars played for their respective teams, Infront of their fans. Conditions, home court in etc. matters.
This year's all star game is a reflection of today's NBA, and so is LeBron's game, scoring a shit ton of points, virtually no defense. That's LeBron and the league. Somehow someone saw MJ back in the day scoring a bunch and thought that was a great show, so let's help players score more by limiting the defense. Sadly more points does not mean better show. The way MJ scored all those points was electrifying, it was beautiful to watch, scoring against tight, tough defense and doing it with an artistry never before nor again seen. That's what makes him the GOAT, the way he played, relentless defender and vicious killer on offense. Neither the league nor LeBron have that
The NBA needs a major reset in rules and policy. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Silver merged the NBA with WNBA together to create one league. We had a glimpse of the future this past weekend - Steph Curry vs Sabrina Ionescu 3 point-Challenge.
I'm pretty sure he went to the Lakers mainly for reasons outside of basketball, mainly that he liked the private school he ultimately sent his kids to and business opportunities. I think I heard he ended up becoming a billionaire within a couple years when he wasn't very close to that before
Actually I like the fact that he’s playing for the sake of playing. As much as we look at MJ playing for titles, he played because he loved the sport and that was evident when he came back from baseball. Sometimes you get to know yourself better as a player when you establish the “why”.
MJ already enjoying his life but still lots of people comparing MJ to other players they are all living in MJ shadow.😂
Lebron said it himself, he’s been chasing MJs ghost his whole career.
Mj is so insecure. did you not see him challenging magic for no reason. you be smoking something hard
Lebron will always regret not trying to build his dynasty in Cleveland. He will always be insecure because he knows deep down that he will never be respected. MJ did it in Chicago. Kobe and Magic did it in LA. Duncan did in San Antonio and Steph did in Golden State.
Yea and their teams did a good job of building around them???? The Cavs sucked at team building
Would you rather him waste his entire prime like Dame did?
@@EzileSolos He had his chance to be the Heat's Longtime Star after Wade Retired.
@EzileSolos so if Dame team hopped and stacked teams to win rings that would make him a better basketball player?
@@EzileSolos Drafting Kyrie and trading for Kevin love was bad team building? The first time he was there yeah but the 2nd time? Nope.
I lost all respect for lejabroni when he left Cleveland the second time.
Why not the first time?
Lol I hate the LeNarrative that LeBron never had help, Bron had a great HC/FO in MIA and still ran, we saw what LeBron does to Rookie HCs, so why would Rookie HC Phil Jackson or Chicago FO be any different ..
@@kedrickd7because the Cavs the first time around literally did nothing to help build a team around LeBron. They wouldnt trade JJ HIXSON for Amare Stoudemire
@@hellraiser420 I can understand leaving Cleveland, but going to Miami to build a superteam is the unforgivable part in a weak Conference on top of that.
@@kedrickd7 thats fair, i agree he should've went somewhere else
Lefraud, the biggest lie in basketball
Without a doubt the most manufactured 'superstar' in league history. Maybe across all sports. The fact that the league blocked the CP3 trade to stifle Kobe but never batted an eye when LeAss formed superteams constantly tells you all you need to know.
😆He sure is!🤥Lebron can't beat jordan in all his titles..😅🤣😂🙄
@@glennjthompson332 Or in Slam Dunk championships because he is afraid of losing.
@@jasonhowell-lg5ig 💰 can disappear.. and his playoff percentage is far behind.😆😂🤣😅
@@chucknorris2418 LOL LeASS
What’s crazy is if LBJ fostered a relationship with MJ, I have no doubt Michael would have helped like he did with Kobe. Sometimes when you want to learn, shut up and listen
💯 LeBron didn’t even go to Mamba camp. The Klaw Steph and all the other great players at that time went.
Brum isn't humble like that , his ego would not allow that at all . The problem is before he laced up for the NBA he was being hyped up and already on a pedestal even without the ball , but he played into that and believes that himself then the ego came then the flop the team change and the self absorbed attitude and Intitled way of thinking kills it for him and us . Rich fall doesn't make since and I can't take him seriously at all Lesosa is his guy and fills his pockets so that disqualified any thing he says
I don't think LeBron could have just created a relationship with MJ out of nothing. There's a social hierarchy in the basketball world -- if you're not in MJ's circle (as a billionaire, friend, or close associate) then you don't bother him. I could be wrong but I just never hear/read about anybody just reaching out to MJ like they did with Kobe, Hakeem, etc. That's part of why MJ's public appearance at the Top 75 event felt so special. Dude is untouchable.
The reason Kobe is friends with MJ is because Phil Jackson put them in the same room together to give Kobe advice. Kobe and MJ think and approach basketball so similarly that they naturally created a strong friendship.
@@jordanjenkins1671Melo has been team Jordan since day one.. you know why… he was humble
Absolutely 💯, and 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Micheal jordan in 5 out of his 6 finals championships are in the top 10 and top 5 worst scoring supporting cast for championship teams the 98 bulls were the worst scoring supporting cast since 1954, the 97 bulls the second worst scoring supporting cast,the 92 bulls the 5th worst scoring supporting cast, the 96 bulls the 6th worst scoring supporting cast,and the 93 bulls the 8th worst scoring supporting cast. Michael jordan is the only player in nba history to lead multiple top 10 lowest scoring supporting cast to championships so you damn right, leading a team to 6 championships under those circumstances should not be something that people ignore
And let's not forget the great players he not only beat but outperformed in a series with no help. Like Patrick Ewing,Charles barkley,Isaiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Magic Johnson,Glenn Rice,Clyde Drexler, Dominique Wilkins,Kevin Johnson, Alonzo Mourning,Tim Hardaway,Shaquille o'neal, Penny Hardaway,Shawn Kemp,Gary Payton,Chris Webber, Dikembe Mutombo,Reggie Miller, John Stockton, and Karl malone and those where only the championship runs. MJ beat and outplayed the NBA mvp, the runner up to nba mvp,and the Dpoy Every year in the nba finals. And what about the underrated teams he played the 97 Bullets with juwan Howard,Chris webber, Rod Strickland, underrated defender Calbert Cheaney. The 98 Hornets with Glenn Rice,Anthony Mason, David Wesley,Dell Curry,.and Vlade Divac. Or the 98 nets with Keith Van Horn,Kerry Kittles, Jayson Williams,Kendall Gill, And sherman Douglas. The 91 76ers with Hersey Hawkins,Charles Barkley,Armen Gilliam, Rick Mahorn. The 1993 Hawks with Dominique Wilkins,Kevin Willis,Mookie Blaylock,Stacy Augmon. The 93 Cavs with Brad Daughtry,Larry Nance, Mark price, And gerald Wilkins. So the argument over the competition and the help he had is ridiculous
After the first 3 peat, the Bulls won 55 games (2 fewer wins) while Pippen was 3rd in MVP voting and Armstrong & Grant were 1st time All Stars. There was talent clearly there- not some dreadful roster you like to portray.
From 96-98, Jordan had Pippen, Rodman (who led the league in rebounding), Kukoc (6th MOY), Kerr led the league in single season & career 3 pt%, while Ron Harper was a defensive menace & starter for any other team in the league. Besides Phil Jackson as well.
The 1996-1998 Bulls are as close to a 90's super team as there ever could be- BY FAR the best roster in the league.
PS- Jordan never won a Finals without a teammate who was either All NBA or All Defense. LBJ beat the 2016 GSW's who were 73-9, down 3-1 in the Finals, without a teammate who was All NBA or All Defense.
Stop your roses of grandeur narratives. It is completely wrong.
@Reaper13-hi3yo I'm talking about the overall playoffs and pluse horace Grant and bj armstrong weren't all stars when mj was there and scottie pippen was only top 5 in mvp voting twice in his career and yes the 96 teams was brilliant but in the playoffs the supporting cast only averaged 66.7 ppg without Mj oh and by the way that warrior team that lafraud beat you can kyrie for that
@@Reaper13-hi3yothe 2016 warriors who were basically without a healthy Steph, klay, bogut, iguodala, and a suspended draymond? And where kyrie was the man in every 4th quarter?
Great counter!
in the next 30 years, fans will still know MJ more than lechina
*LeBeijing LOL
And lebron will be posting on social media and talking like floyd mayweather about his greatness
LeBuminator James.
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen
84-85 38-44..First round exit
85-86. 30-52..First round exit
86-87. 40-42...First round exit
01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs
02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs
LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals
In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate
Rick Barry (1975)
Bill Walton (1977)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Tim Duncan (2005) (2007)
Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010)
Steph Curry (2015) (2022)
LeBron james (2016)
Kawhi Leonard (2019)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021)
As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt
Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO
In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were
83-84 bulls 27-55
84-85 bulls. 38-44
92-93 bulls 57-25
93-94 bulls 55-27
98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen
00-01 wizards 19-63
01-02 wizards. 37-45
02-03 wizards 37-45
03-04 wizards 25-57
02-03 cavaliers 17-65
03-04 cavaliers 35-47
09-10 cavaliers 61-21
10-11 cavaliers 19-63
09-10 heat. 47-35
10-11 heat 58-24
14-15 heat 37-45
2013-14 cavaliers 33-49
2014-15 cavaliers 53-29
2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32
2018-19 cavaliers 19-63
2017-18 lakers. 35-47
2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day.
As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank.
Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter
Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck.
THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!
I have added a Postscript
So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
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I pray one day, you get a girl who can stand to look at you.
What the hell does he want the Lakers to do? They already gave up their future for him. There is nothing left to give....
That's the illusion of the queen. He's clueless...
They can’t and won’t be able to do anything until Lebron leaves/retires
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m I think they are even screwed after that. They have given up a significant number of their future draft picks also.
Lebron does not deserve to be in the same room as MJ, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, or Bird! He's in the next room over....... Carry on.
Yup, someone said if you take away his 2 with super team Heat, then he’s more so in the room with guys like Dirk, KG, KD, steph them guys. Which makes a lot more sense. Makes all the GOAT stuff just sound crazy too
Oldhead
Or Crying 😭I Need Help, Help, HEEEELLLLPPPP
LeBron can't even pretend to be a great or congratulate others for doing a good job , he wouldn't tell his teammates they did a good job after winning without him not a gOaT move , didn't go to the Kobe statue reveal he didn't even go to Wades celebration and I realized that Brum is like if it's not about me I don't want to see
@@arthurbrown-jy2ez you have to be kidding me. Jordan and Kobe are famously the biggest douches in the NBA history and you still crying about lebron
Stay on his neck Uncut Hoops 💪🏾
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lmaoo
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@zelohendricks51 are u a public defender
Another thing about MJ... When he started losing his hair... He let that go also. 😂
He didn't need to admit defeat, many already know it.
"When I Admitted that I wasn't the greatest of all time I realized in that moment, I was the greatest of all time"
-DaBonze Age
Duncan is better than lebtich
Duncan better than Kobe 🤷🏾♂️
Larry Bird >>>> JaBroni Lames
@@NewNormalWorldOrder bird 🧹🧹 Jordan
@@thefunguy5069 Celtics beat Bulls. Do you understand how team sport works?
@@Sf75178 still swept them
Simply put, MJ accomplished MORE in less amount of time. The longer you stay without winning 🏆 will only make yourself feel miserable.
Imagine if Cabron James won those 4 rings in Cleveland and never left in the first place... that would've been so much better IMHO.
.. as AI said it is MJ-Kobe and then the rest
Kobe isnt up there with Jordan im sorry, he was basically another MJ but he was worse, less efficient, even more selfish and couldnt really win for most of his career without shaq
@@Asterisk-hj4lx lol if Kobe not up there then Bron definitely isnt either when Redeem Team showed who the real alpha was between them
@@tdup191don’t respond to this dude. He’s a troll saying stupid s*** on every comment 😅😂
I liken LBJ fans to Flat Earthers - both present ridiculous points to try to convince you they are right, even when presented with logic they hit you with their stupidity. 🤷♂️
How I never thought about that?! Flat earthers, people that dont believe the man went to the moon, people who say LeBron is the goat...they all share the same level of ridiculousness
Watch it chump!!
The earth is flat, your just a sheep 🐑 😂😂😂
Never thought of it like that but you're 100% correct
That's a perfect comparison.
Lebron's defeat was ensured after the 2011 Finals.
This isn't a dig at Jason Terry but Jason Terry is a bench player and a sixth Man of the Year who absolutely scorched LeBron James in that 2011 NBA finals. He was busting threes and mid-range jump shots in his damn face like it was no big deal. That right there and did the goat conversation because he didn't recover and he didn't really lead his team back or anything. The only time he got a revenge is when he dunked on Jason Terry and then he got a technical foul for it. But by that point Jason Terry was on the Celtics and it didn't matter. Michael Jordan would have very much not allowed him to do all the crap he was doing to LeBron.
@@billdover3165💯% Fact on that comment my friend..Jordan was a different cat.
@@billdover3165 He also let JJ Berea get in his head when Berea was guarding him. One of the funniest things I have ever seen in an NBA game is Lebron FADING AWAY from JJ Berea...
@@nathancook2852 Big facts..JJ and Terry were out there killing LeBron James( who had a 8 pt gm and avg. 17 ppg for the series) Jordan dominant Finals performances is just another reason he is the GOAT 🐐 MJ never scored less than 22 pts in a Finals gm. MJ never faced a gm 7 in the Finals and was 24-11 win/loss 69% and LBJ is 22-33 40% winning pct and a losing record 4-6 in Finals series he would be worst if not for Ray Allen and Kyrie Irving hitting big shots to win Finals gms..Jordan hit big shots in 1991, 1997, 1998. LeBron James is not built the same way Michael Jordan was or Kobe was period.
Lebron is just getting his points, not wins.
Far greater.. the championships and MVPs not to mention the 50 pt gms also his style on the court and his clutchness( 9 buzzers beaters most all time)and every one( outside of Kobe) was scared to death ☠️💀 of MJ .. LeBron is respected but not feared to insane level of MJ. PS Nike would not be the most dominant sport company today without his Air Jordans period
Don’t worry ESPN people will keep selling than LeBron is better because of his longetivy. Also, it will be so cringe to see him in NY now than they are starting to build something interesting after almost 30 years…
It would be bad for Brunson's development if LeBron came to NY.
So many charges in those "highlights". He's got the ugliest and laziest game. Lebron was never close to being the goat, and never will be close.
He is smart with how he plays, I play similarly to him, I am a 6'6 230 pound Power Forward, small for my position but I know how to move my weight around, an offensive foul in the NBA is only called if you drop your shoulder into a players chest, if he uses his hand to push them out of the way sure its an offensive foul but he doesnt, he pushes off with his forearm or his shoulder because thats allowed, a charge requires the defender to be in a screen like base which they never are, a charge without that base is usually when a player is squared up to defend you and you ram into them. LeBron plays smart he doesnt foul, he knows how to move his weight around, learned that from people like Hakeem when Hakeem trained him to work in the post
@@Asterisk-hj4lx How about all of this clowns traveling and carrying the ball. Oh, and very little defense and hopping around with the ball like a jack rabbit. Refs are ridiculous.
There's nothing "smart" about playing lazy. His footwork and fundamentals are pure trash. Watch him try to break someone down 1v1. It's embarrassing. But keep believing what nick and shannon tell you.
Bro he conserves energy on defense NOW but not in his prime, he played really good defense, he also is averaging 1+ steals per game for his career including this season so Idk what you are talking about, he play his fundamentals are on point and always have been, saying his footwork is trash is just casual behaviour because he was literally trained by Hakeem for footwork and post play.@@mr.nimbus537
I agree that travels and carries should be enforced more strictly but that is part of the game now, sometimes you need an extra step but they wont call it if it doesnt give you an advantage, LeBrons spin layup has been controversial for this because he hops off one foot and lands on it again, meaning he travels but it gains 0 advantage because it is likely not intentional, carrying is a thing in the nba now because they dont really see it as a big thing unless you literally hold the ball on your palm.@@chipferguson5129
this is the same guy who said miami would "win not one,not two... not seven", didn't he?
everything he says henceforth are lies.
Can lebron just retire already hes such a thespian
An emotional thespian
LeBron will be on a mission to win this year's all star MVP, his consolation trophy, you better believe it
Jokic and Luka are ruining Lebum's best all around player narrative. I guarantee if either of them won 4 championships and mvps Bronsexuals won't call them the GOAT. 🤔😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Championships will become their argument.
The hypocrisy is inevitable.
@@bwink23lol exactly that's the problem with lies they can never stay consistent.
LeBron isn't and has never been the best all around player. Not even for a single season
Jokic, Luka and LeBron are all players who are better than Jordan at playing the game of basketball, LeBron created the point big and was also responsible for the rise of All Around Players, Jordan couldnt do everything, LeBron, Luka and Jokic can do everything, whatever they want on the court, sure LeBron now aint as good because he is god damn 39 years old but in his prime he was the greatest all around player of all time, before you say "Bronsexual", I am one of the LeBron fans that believes Jordan is the GOAT, Jordan simply had more accolades because he could dominate the game differently in that era, you dont really get players that are that dominant anymore because the league now has more superstar level players than Jordans era did. If you want me to answer anything just post something.
@@Asterisk-hj4lx Bronsexual
Important to note that Kobe’s last 3 years were riddled with injury. He also didn’t start until he was 21, his 3rd year, which was the same age Jordan was in his rookie year; that’s 5 chips in 14 seasons.
Nobody yells “Lebron!” when they shoot a ridiculously deep shot.. we all yell “Kobe!”
Nobody yells MJ either
individual stats can always be beat later, championships are waaaay harder to achieve.
If lebron mj and kobe were in the same room together LBJ would ask them to join the same team
Lebum needs to LeBeg for GOAT status Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Bill Russell, Bird, and Kobe didn't ask for the public's approval. Lebum has no dynasty like the players I named he's an overrated deckstacker/team hopper. 👺😂😂😂
LeBron never asked people to call him the goat or said that he was, one interview that people bring up is when he said "I FELT like I was the GOAT" talking about the 2016 comeback against the best team in nba history, he never outright said he was the goat, unlike Jordan who Wilt Chamberlain admitted Jordan told him that he was the GOAT, which brought Wilt to say the line everyone knows "They changed the rules so I couldn't dominate, they changed the rules so you could dominate"
@@Asterisk-hj4lx No disrespect to Wilt but he underperformed in the playoffs unlike Jordan so he had no room to hate on Jordan. Jordan's stats and production improved in the postseason while Wilt's production went down drastically (averaged 8 less points in the playoffs than the regular season). Lebum said he wants his damn respect after winning the Disney championship against the injured G League Heat. Lebum has agents in the media to call him the GOAT as propaganda. Lol
@@Asterisk-hj4lxWilt got destroyed by Bill Russel his entire career. No one even competed with Jordan, let alone destroy him.
Wilts teams werent made for championships, Wilt was the most dominant player until maybe Shaq.@@rg7535
@@psychedelicvault6951that’s just because of the slower pace, ain’t nobody was stopping wilt.
Tryna be the first player to lose with son
Does it really matter if he wins or loses? He isn’t worried about ring chasing like he said yet this dude doesn’t believe. He wants to be the first player in history to play with his son win lose or draw
His son can't make the NBA, so, better go to Europe.
@@nathancook2852 his son is better than thananis. Cope.
I see on the highlights that Lebron's fo to move is offensive foul to the basket. 🤣😂. LeLEECH needs to retire and stop sucking franchises dry.
But when shaq does it you have no problem with it right
@@von1626 shaq did not have to dip his shoulders, he was just a massive individual he would get offensive fouls for being overly aggressive, stop lying, ur boy dips his shoulders everytime
@@von1626 No, I have called out Shaq for it many times.
@@von1626 Shaq got fouled way more than he fouled others dumbass.
LeCupcake is basically Karl Malone who won a few rings without having to face MJ in a moist soft era
Mixed with Shawn Kemp... Bingo!
LeBron hasn’t played defense since he left Miami. He’s played free safety on defense ever since.
2018?
@@thefunguy5069 He doesnt really play individual defense. A highlight chasedown block is about it.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl really?
He's not even doing that. He's a statue out there...
@@mpound97 basically yeah, because all I see is him letting the offense score a easy layup in front of him
It's always been about stats since 2017 and its the only way he can be in the conversation because thats the narrative his lebum employees aka Nick Wrong , Leshannon Sharpe, Brian Winbag, Colon Coward and the rest of his buttlickers put out there. The longer he plays all the analytics that hes a close 2nd in will be pushed farther away then he really has no argument but the stats. He'll be better off retiring at the end of this season taken the L that he can't catch that ghost.
Lebrons career just validates kobe and jordan even more because you can tell those guys are better but lebron is out of this world amazing as well. You cannot deny his talent but the intangibles are what makes the biggest difference with those two
Intangibles like leadership, forcing turnovers / bad offense for the opponent, playing help defense? All that stuff that aint in the stats? LeBron was a better leader than Kobe and Jordan, neither ever really played help defense but they both could force the offense to make mistakes and stuff, I just feel LeBron is better in intangibles too but Jordan is the GOAT, I still believe LeBron is just straight up the best basketball player to ever play but the amount of awards Jordan won cements him as the GOAT basically forever at this point, only person I can see getting close to the amount of scoring titles Jordan had is Luka but he aint winning no DPOY or all defensive team selections because he just isnt great on that side of the court.
@@Asterisk-hj4lx LeBron never was the best basketball player and never has a better leader because of his inability to perform under pressure and his lack of responsibility (blaming others for failure rather than him). Jordan played defense given the fact he was selected on the first defensive team nine times and even got "defender of the year" title to back him up (he should have two). Kobe was also on first defensive team and helped Lebron winning a gold medal in Olympics.
@@Asterisk-hj4lx Go watch is leadership in the final two minutes and overtime of first Spurs series. Just masterful. Missed shot after missed shot, screaming at Allen to pass him the ball even after Allen his the shot, and turnover after turnover. We all want a leader like that.
LeGM should just change the salary cap so he can make the ultimate Super Team to win the next ten years just so that he can act like he was the Goat. He should just go all out at this point
He’s a mercenary that will never be the focal point of another championship team.
He is 39 years old and is still the best player on the lakers.@@StoneGone
In the same recent press conference where he hinted at possible retirement, LeBron said that the only thing that he still plays for is the opportunity to play for championships.
"They all belong in that room"
Nobody questions whether MJ or Kobe belong in that room. That should tell you everything.
According to Lebron he has 5 now, he is the midseason champion of the world!
If anyone did those first 6 moves to lebron that they showed in this video to him, he would be rolling on the floor
We as fans shouldve never allowed him to be compared to mj and even worse put him ahead of Kobe hes not past magic, kareem, bird, tim duncan
While I agree, I do understand the NBA trying to hype things up.
My problem is that Tim Duncan didn't get more praise. Jokic isn't, Doncic isn't. I think Wemby might get there, Austin Reaves too.
None of them are the next Jordan or Kobe, but they deserve some highlights too IMO. We already had a Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Mailman, AI, Shaq, Zeke, Jerry West, Kareem, Hakeem, etc. You can't replace them so stop trying to compare them.
@@Epicentr far enough thats a good point
Theres always a “Next MJ” they come and Go. Some with more longevity than others.
The Next MJ
The Next Kobe
The Next LeBron
Will mean 3 completely different things as time passes (different levels)
We saw the next Lebron. His name is Ben Simmons
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Great video! Thanks for posting!
LeBron's legacy would have been better with two or three championships in Cleveland than chasing all these other rings with the Lakers and the heat
How is he ring chasing on the Lakers they didn't even make the playoffs before he joined
Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
It's not just MJ who is better.....
Lebron is one of the greatest basketball players in NBA history but he'll never be on the same level as Michael Jordan. Nobody is.
Losing to the mavs while getting torched by jason terry is Lebrons legacy. Jordan guarded Magic Johnson on one end and still dominated on the offense.
Tim Duncan > LeBron
At this point it's clear Lebron only cares about stats and getting to play with his son either in the league or on the same team before he retires. He knows he won't catch Kobe or Jordan in chips a long time ago.
Lakers fan here. There is no chance in hell that he will play another 5 year. He is gonna go down and clap quick next year. His joints and bones won’t age linearly over time. All it takes is one bad landing. He should thank his none defense for lasting this long. Lakers should trade him and get what they can before he walks to another optimal team
Interesting that you mention this bc that's the last thing I remember about Shaq. Him going up for a rebound, landing awkwardly and limping to the bench and announcing his retirement soon after. This is the last play of him that I remember when he was with the Celtics and way past his prime at that point.
Who's gonna take LeBron and what could LA get for him realistically ?
@@mja4wp It would have made sense for Lakers to make the trade with golden state Warriors. Get Kuminga, Moody and a first round pick and maybe a pick swap or two. As long as you get few picks and a couple of young players with any team, would be better to just keep him and allow him so mess your team up again and again.
What's in it for the Warriors? nothing...thats why didn't happen. No one wants him...lest not for what he's worth v what he thinks he's worth @@Babak1358Shah
Of course Jordan is better, so is magic Kobe Bird, and a host of others
He doesn't care about passing them because its too late
LeBronze is basically Rob Horry
Its crazy how ppl say lebron is better when hes playet more seasons and has been on more teams yet still has 2 less rings that MJ
Some of us played sports, and played before participation trophies were a thing. LeBron fans either didn't play, or were celebrated for trying hard
@@IsaacMSingleton1yeah, I’ve honestly seen people try to argue that 4-6 is better than 6-0 because “he made the finals more times” can’t make this stuff up 😂
Tough competition mate
@@thefunguy5069Yeah for Jordan. Just getting thru the East back then was tough. The queen played in the "LEastern Conference" for years with no real competition. Then gets to the finals and has his ass handed to him...
@@mpound97 well LeBron had a tougher west as we can say
LeBron is the modern day Wilt.
Same archetype. Big and "physical" getting numbers along the way but soft when it matters most.
LeBron's such a great player - he's in my top 10.
But to put him in the top 5, that's ludacris
The rapper? 😂
@@mucanan Yup, only Ludacris did that 😆
It's one thing for the media to create the goat debate and a ton of narratives for lebron. It's another thing completely for lebron and his camp to actually believe the fake narratives. I can't say that I don't appreciate lebron, but I can say that I don't respect anything about him
Agree with your takes. Disagree with your click bait titles.
Lebranda dyes his beard and shoots peds all day, the goat mj just stuck around in Washington for the love of the game, RESPECT lasheep 20 yrs still chasing his airnesss
*Clears Throat*....
"NO Lies Detected HERE!!!!"
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Lebron needs to realize and admit that Larry Legend would ALSO dominate him.... MJ had waaaay more trouble with Larry than he ever had with Lebron.... and MJ gladly admits those facts... A lot of people don't take into consideration that Larry did not say good things about his competitors, but he didn't bad mouth them really either other than trash talkin out on the court.. But he broke his rule and years before MJ ever really started to shine, Larry called it on the money saying MJ was the next Super Star to be out front in the NBA... Larry saw this, felt this and knew this years before anybody even thought about or looked at MJ like that.
Ive been saying that too...Larry dominated everyone in his era...as you say, including MJ...who, though he valiantly tried, could not get past Birds Celtics in the East
Larry Bird: "Kobe is the guy you win with. LeBron if you want to have fun."
My brother, you need to include in your video montage all the times lebron's shit the bed.
Kyrie really threw a wrench in his Cleveland aspirations, that’s not talked about enough
Lebron's highlights are hardly contested dunks and layups. Soooo great he is.
If LeDoubleTalk doesn’t think Championships matter, why did he say coming back down 3-1 to win one made him the GOAT? Shouldn’t that have just been any other set of games??? Since chips don’t matter? Which is it?!?
he's a head case if there ever was one
If you have Kobe, LeBron and MJ all walk into a room at the same time, people would still be amazed at seeing MJ.
A Great player earned respect and has loyalty
Giannis is following in his footsteps, trying to control the team and org to force a certain outcome. What both don't realize and what I hope Giannis learns (don't think Lebron will) is that the grass can never be greener if you're trampling all over it looking across the fence. Work within. That's the part of the mamba mentality that escapes GM-wannabes
Steph clears Lebron IMO. Never left his own team when things were tough. Was always the engine of success for his organization
When lebron retires and his mouth pieces leave (nick wright, shannon, perkins, and windhorst) this whole narrative of him being goat will stop.
Nah, ESPN will find more people willing to spew lies for a buck. They are around every corner.
Lebron is great, but he's too narcissistic. I dunno bout yall, but when a man literally says "I want my damn respect too." you get absolutely no respect.
Damn you be doing your homework 👍🥇🏆🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
Does this mean you'll stop making weekly videos about how there's no comparison or can we expect chapter 1000-2000 this year?
Jordan was cut from his high school varsity team 😂
“I’ll see ya next time.” 😉
DAMN! That stat is crazy!
MJ-5 titles = 1006 games
Kobe- 5 titles = 1199 games
Lebron- 3(4*) titles = 1752 games.
Debate ended
Does he not care or does he just know he never will😂😂
It's like asking a chick out on a date and calling her ugly when she says no.
It's crazy when you got reporters signed to clutch sports Mr not 5 not 6 not 7 is suddenly not chasing championships winning the in season tournament then sending something on Instagram saying you 1 away from Michael
Jordan and kobe didnt run from the grind of staying on one team getting everybody on the same to make them a championship quality team thats what makes them both better players then lebron.
People don't understand the Lakers weren't a championship team until the young Kobe took over their team. As Shaq has said, Phil came and said alright, it's over, be back next year, and the only guy who stopped up was the 21 year old Kobe Bryant. Kobe and Shaq learned to win TOGETHER, MJ AND PIPPEN TOGETHER. Dwade won without LeBron, and then LeBron joined him to learn how to win. Those guys built it while LeBron joined it, and nobody besides LeBron is allowed to live that down. Just see kawhi and KD
@@IsaacMSingleton1 Facts!!!
@@IsaacMSingleton1 Kobe was robin, at best to Shaq's superman. Shaq carried, especially the first two. Kobe shot 41.5% or lower in 3 of 4 finals with Shaq, and he shot 43% or lower in 6 of 7 finals...
@@nathancook2852 wow field goal percentage 😂 Kobe didn't have the benefit of having multiple scorers and knockdown shooters to play with and force the defense to space out, he had shaq, who was pulling the defense into the paint, forcing Kobe to live in the midrange and 3 point area. Same exact scenario with Pau, he isn't going to force those guys out of the paint to get an open lane, he is going to play around their skillset and get his points. I also could care less about field goal percentage, he was a shooting guard carrying the offensive and defensive load on the perimeter, against players like Allen Iverson, reggie miller, Paul pierce, Tony Allen. All you can do is hold his field goal percentage over my head, you couldn't even deny he was the reason they became champions 😂
@@nathancook2852 this is also what made someone like MJ so special, he didn't need a dominate scoring big in the paint, opening up attacking lanes for him, Kobe had Shaq, he didn't join shaq, and learned how to maximize himself for the team, to win a title. Kobe was forced to play a more perimeter orientated game, and still was able to dominate the floor. Kobe is 1 of the best to ever do it, no matter how much it bothers you, or how much you talk field goal percentages.
Jordan also knew when to shave his head and give it up. Bron been fighting that bad spot for 20 years now.
He can honestly do w.e he wants lol hes just another fringe star. He would need to build a perfect team to win the chip. There's a lot of talent out there. Its not just the same 4 or 5 teams every year and he dont know what to do 😂 He can't figure out what team might win next since theres like 10.
2:54 people forget they KD going to golden state only happened because steph gave the go-ahead in all aspects... He sacrificed his own stats so that KD could do his thing and get those finals MVPs
GSE doesnt even talk to KD if Steph doesnt cosign everything
LeBron is like a VD…hard to get rid of but still kills all debates
If Ramon wins another title, realistically is only 4. Even in strike shortened seasons, All the stars played for their respective teams, Infront of their fans. Conditions, home court in etc. matters.
Rich Paul = Poor Paul
LeBron = LeFlop / LeBum / LeFraud
Adam Silver = Adam James
Can’t believe James is almost 40.. He doesn’t act like it…
He said it to pretend that he’s second when in reality he’s top 10 at best
This year's all star game is a reflection of today's NBA, and so is LeBron's game, scoring a shit ton of points, virtually no defense. That's LeBron and the league. Somehow someone saw MJ back in the day scoring a bunch and thought that was a great show, so let's help players score more by limiting the defense. Sadly more points does not mean better show. The way MJ scored all those points was electrifying, it was beautiful to watch, scoring against tight, tough defense and doing it with an artistry never before nor again seen. That's what makes him the GOAT, the way he played, relentless defender and vicious killer on offense. Neither the league nor LeBron have that
Do u understand this is not lebrons era? Is this melo and dwade era? Bron was drafted in 03 not 2015
He'd always say that.
When Lebron is done they'll be looking for the next player to compare Jordan to.
If they're in the same room, then Lebron must be in the corner
This man be having his foot on Lebron's neck at all times.
The NBA needs a major reset in rules and policy. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Silver merged the NBA with WNBA together to create one league. We had a glimpse of the future this past weekend - Steph Curry vs Sabrina Ionescu 3 point-Challenge.
I'm pretty sure he went to the Lakers mainly for reasons outside of basketball, mainly that he liked the private school he ultimately sent his kids to and business opportunities. I think I heard he ended up becoming a billionaire within a couple years when he wasn't very close to that before
If every next great player is still wearing shoes with your name on them, you don't have to say anything; you have already won.
Actually I like the fact that he’s playing for the sake of playing. As much as we look at MJ playing for titles, he played because he loved the sport and that was evident when he came back from baseball.
Sometimes you get to know yourself better as a player when you establish the “why”.
He obviously also wants the record for most NBA seasons. I think he's 1 year away from it