It is implied that Isshin is ridiculously powerful. To push Aizen back with one finger flick after barely regaining his powers means he was likely one of the most powerful captains of his generation. He is a descendant of Noble Shiba and was probably that once in a decade Descendant who could learn Bankai. He was underutilized, but I see why story-wise.
Branch family in the Shiba clan, as Isshin is part of, these members have naturally higher spiritual pressure than all other Shinigami. Good call mate.
Adding to this, Isshin was in his BASE form when fought with Aizen - pushing him back with a forehead flick and cracking Aizen's chrysalis with a getsuga tensho. This is the same Aizen where captains in bankai and shikai and visoreds with masks on were struggling with
@@marcusj17yup, it's even rumoured that Isshin might be the son or grandson of Yamamoto cause they both have powerful fire based Zanpakuto and both their Zanpakuto are Based on the Phoenix. Isshin was considered the second most powerful Captain of his generation below Yamamoto. Aizen was below Isshin, and Aizen was considered the strongest Captain below Yamamoto... Yeah people be Sleeping of Isshin.
I hate how they never really addressed that Rangiku was Isshin’s lieutenant. I swear there were even times where she was around him when she was in Karakura town
I mean he has aged a bit and had no spiritual pressure so it’s not too crazy she wouldn’t recognise him. Especially with how his personality has changed.
@@zac7790 his appearance really didn't change much atleast not enough that she won't recognise him and she could have atleast wondered why this guy looks like her captain
@Aim bot yeah but I’m sure that‘s only because of the Hogyokou inside of Aizen. looking at the fight, Aizen couldn’t do Jack shit to Isshin until the point the Hogyokou made him Transform. I think on a „fair“ battle, Isshin would rape Aizen. Like Isshin didn‘t even activate his Shikai nor Bankai. But that‘s just my opinion.
@Don’t at Me i mean he fought ichigo when he got a powerup from a magical orb that kinda grants wishes and for yhwach he fought him after he did the longest training arc in history in aizen vs isshin i'd say aizen would win because kyoka suigetsu but in a battle of pure power i might say isshin
She was 15 nd he got her pregnant the second she turned 18 a stated 3 years later. Nobody said he waited or nothing she just got pregnant w Ichigo at that time.
There is something important in his White fight: It's stated he cannot go into Bankai if he's hurt. So he either hasn't mastered it; or his Bankai is very high-risk to himself.
@@bg357wg its kinda like u need to be in good condition to use the bankai properly. See what happpened with kenapchi lr kurosaki when bankai isnt used properly. Bankai puts alot pf pressure on the user. Regardless of its power.
@@aimanbabahmed7449 mmmm I would say at the very least Ichigo’s first bankai (and the first bankai in the show) says otherwise, since he got really bloodied up by trying to fend off senbonzakura in shikai form, but when he went to bankai he was suddenly fine again and pretty much kicked ass against someone like Byakuya
@@bg357wg he was kicking byakuyas ass untill he couldnt sustain his own bankai anymore and became slower and slower until he couldnt even move. So yeah bankai puts a strain to u. Especially if u havent mastered it or ur in a bad shape. Remember that in that fight ichigo wasnt fully healed and only just attained bankai. Normally it takes 10 years to fully master bankai.
@@aimanbabahmed7449 I’m not necessarily disagreeing with the part that bankai puts a strain on the user in most cases (of course, wielding greater power and emitting larger amounts of reiatsu is always more draining) I’m only disputing the part where being in good physical condition is a necessary prerequisite for all to enter and use bankai, as we’ve seen many characters go into bankai after being beat up and cornered in shikai form. Ikkaku vs Edrad Is another example that just came to mind.
It kind of doesn’t make sense why they weren’t going all out against Aizen. They know the stakes if Aizen gets his way so why didn’t they use their bankais. Isshin didn’t even use shikai
For Isshin it was just rust (since his own bankai actually causes damage to own body similar to Soul Society bankai Ichigo's bankai bone crushing reiatsu); Yoruichi doesn't like using her Zanpakuto, she prefers hand to hand combat (& seeing from the TYBW when she fought Askin, she'd rather die than use her half baked power up which means she'd rather die than use her Zanpakuto) & Kanon Baraki Benehime Aratame would have proved useless against Aizen
Getsuga tensho is an ability from Engetsu, we've seen different shikai configurations with Tousen and Yumichica. A getsuga is not a sealed sword attack so he was using shikai
They didn't go all out because it was essentially futile. Kisuke knows about the hogyoku, he made it after all. I'm sure he knew that Aizen's fusing with it would make him immortal. There was no way they could beat him. Ichigo had to have time in the Dangai to train, and that was only possible due to Isshin's power being enough to hold the Dangai for as long as he did. Ichigo was then able to push Aizen to the point where Kisuke's seal could activate.
@Don’t at Me his fullbring took after his shinigami powers. Ichigo's main ability s compression of spirit energy for amplification. He wears his fullbring much like his bankai, indicating that lke his bankai, his entire spirit energy is compressed which increases his attack speed and power. Tsukishima made mention to this unforseen speed and when Ichigo actually uses gersuga, they mentioned he's merged his shinigami powers with fullbring. It is a zanpakuto ability. Final getsuga tensho for Isshin should be something he could do on his own without consulting his zanpakuto if it wasn't his zanpakuto ability
Let's take a moment to realize that isshin wasn't fight white seriously because he knew aizin was there as well as not wanting to affect the world of the living too much either and remember isshin was one of the people aizin would advoid
I always wanted to see Ishin’s bankai, but I don’t mind not seeing it, I found the concept of not being able to use Bankai while badly wounded interesting. Makes the Bankai feel powerful. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The fact that isshin hasn't shown his awakened form should really speak volumes. Im not up-to-date on bleach after the anime shows (didn't read manga I really need to)ended, so what I know might be out dated but come on we don't even know what his ability are everything he has done is all him no added strength from his zanpakuto no hacks nothing its all up in the air maybe he is so far above everyone else and has 0 f to give because he could end anything as he sees fit ... why be concerned about ... YOUR son when he is everything you are plus more
Isshin frist time showing up I was like this man is a OG... I saw him back when the anime was released weekly and me and my ppl were trying to figure out what he was with the captain jacket ( yes I know that not what its called I just suck at spelling lol) on his arm. I was thinking he was part of zero squad
Isshin is one of my Favorite bleach Char‘s and I’m 100% sure, without Aizen having the Hogyoko he would have beat the living shit out of Aizen. Aizen couldn’t do shit against Isshin before the Hogyoko made him transform and even if we say Aizen held back... so did Isshin, not using Shikai nor Bankai. Aizen just got the survival Plotarmor called Hogyoko that Regens him, without that he‘d lose to Isshin 100%. I wish we would have seen a Isshin that goes all out or close to it.
The reason might be that after loosing his shingami powers for 20 years and regaining them back means he might have to learn bankai once more as well as mugtesu due to him loosing his link with his powers for so long. This is just my theory.
if no one doesn't know Isshin kurasaki was a former captain and head of one of the Five Noble Houses, Isshin had possesses a monstrous amount of spiritual energy that even rival kyoraku and ukitake but he used to have a greater amount of it before losing his powers.[14] Ichigo and Shinji are able to sense its strong presence from miles away. Kon was stunned by the level of Isshin's power when he watched Isshin kill Grand Fisher with one swing of his sealed Zanpakutō.[126] Using his Reiatsu, he can fixate the Kōryū in the Dangai by himself for up to two thousand hours (roughly three months) before it runs out, something which lower-echelon Shinigami come in by the dozens to do under normal circumstances.[108]Masaki Kurosaki described his Reiatsu as "incredibly powerful".[
it just occurred to me that isshin and rangiku are a bit similar. Isshin lost his powers for a while and rangiku had half of her reiatsu stolen by aizen so she could be stronger than what she currently is
Remember when he fought White he was in the real world, not soul Society his power was less than normal even Toshiro's bankia was a bit useless against that arranca guy.
I think u r right bro....I didn't even paid attention to the details yoruichi's shunko was child's play to him but the same isshin without even shikai, his gengetsu was able to crack open Aizen's head🤤
Konoha gets all the spotlight All prophecies and powerful shit happened and came from there The other events from other villages are just mere sideshows Author tried to compensate for it by making extra OP shinobis from other villages Thats the biggest complaint about narutos worldbuilding
What if that Aizen just wanted the lumen and never intended to kill the gotei as he wanted them to see him becoming the king of all that’s why he might have been holding back while fighting the trio of danger.....
thats exactly what it is.. which is why he never killed any captains.. he only killed gin because gin actually had the power to kill him and it wouldnt have been wise to leave him around.. also i think he felt alittle more disrespected that his right hand man was actually a double agent
i only noticed now in the video but u couldve known from his first appearence that he once was a captain since hes still wearing the robe on his arm or at least it looks very similar to the captains cloaks
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt the anime itself named after white? Meaning that Kubo didnt just want to call the anime white, hence it's called bleach. Why would isshins fight with white be disregarded as trivial against a being that the anime itself is named after?
Well soul king is more like coz ichigo is also a mix between all different races, shingami quincy and fullbring. Bit yea isshin also play role on how powrrful ichigo is
I mean an Isshin that isn't rusty would probably be around the level of Byakuya (since both are nobles). I don't think he is as powerfull as the likes of Shunsui or Gin (since Gin f*cking killed the version of Aizen that knocked him up in 1 attack and Shunsui fought against Lile Barro and did considerably well)
@@mentalprograming5365 That's like saying how strong Yoruichi would be using her bankai, we don't know since it was never shown said character doing that
Hanzo stopped training before he died against Pain, who could’ve also smacked the Sanin simultaneously, but Edo Hanzo that was beaten by Mifune wasn’t his prime.
First nice video bro there are not a lot of video about Ichigo Father. Second i think he is more powerful than we think specially when he was still about to help Ichigo in the Dangai after being beat by Aizen third level.
His most impressive feat of strength is to tank all that potentially lethal abuse from his children, and just shrug it off like it's just a slapstick-sketch. Tbh it would be cool to see his bankai.. But I get why they didn't use their bankais against Aizen after breaking his crystalisis-stage. They realized at that point that even if they manage to turn the tables on himi again, he's only get even stronger!
I think people forget one crucial detail about Isshin's duel against White. The Gentai Rein. Or however you spell the word. Even if Isshin left without permission, I doubt he could pass through the Dangai and arrive in the Human World unless he was restricted. Meaning Isshin fought White at 20% of his strength.
@Chibi Crimson AIGGT U DUMB AS HELL. Aizen states that without the hogyoku he would of died to base urahara with kido that on its own puts urahara above base Aizen who can solo the espada. Also urahara does not get stronger throughout the show so saying pre tbyw means nothing he's the same.
@Chibi Crimson I always get shit like this from people always getting butt hurt and complaining with empty answers and then claim things that haven’t been proven and I’m not taking sides but this is exactly what I get, it’s sad things like this is supposed to get people together but instead it’s all about who’s thinks they have more knowledge and claim other people have fuck all, it’s sad come on guys stuck together and stop with the petty names
@Chibi Crimson I think you both have a point but what I haven’t heard is kubo say shunsui is stronger than aizen if he did than I don’t deny but I would like to see some evidence and I know that ulquiurra is stronger than urahara for the that he wasn’t intimidated and could block them pretty much easily but he was suppressed so I don’t know as far as im concerned urahara is stronger than ulquiurra look at his fight with askin he weren’t exactly weak was he and that’s after urahara isn’t suppressed anymore but suppressed he has knowledge to have a advantage against people and I don’t know if he’s massively stronger than isshin but that’s my opinion we can’t really scale him with little we know but in this instance than yeah based off of what we know. I do believe urahara to be stronger than ulquiurra he was suppressed in a human body while fighting aizen but he wouldn’t win but has a possibility if he weren’t suppressed that’s what I think anyway I can’t really say that’s evidence it’s more speculation but I think that he would of aizen didn’t have the hogyoku. Aizen stated to be more stronger than the other captains and felt alone but why would he need to feel the need to send sway kenpachi and seal yama and admit that he couldn’t win, it makes no sense
When ishin fought white his power sealed because captains have limiters placed on them wen the enter the world of the living so that fight is actually a testament to how powerful he truly is.
i honestly think isshin urahara and yoruichi are on aizen level, that why kubo had to wait until aizen transforme with ogyoku to make him fight them. i mean guys like toshiro or kyoraku can't even see aizen mooving, while isshin fight with him very easily
@@pyrolight7568 well yes and no.. aizen is constantly evolving so technically theres no character in bleach history that can defeat him if he were allowed to roam free... he literally defeated himself via his thoughts and intentions.. he probly no longer wanted to fight and the hokyoku misunderstood him.. isshin in bankai was probly equal to ichigo in final getsuga or one step lower but hes not wrote as the main guy.. truthfully bad writing..
isshins shikai/bankai(idk wich one it was) turns his blood into flames and power so if hes hurt just a litle and blood is flowing out he might just burn himself to death and there might also be some friendly fire risk aswell
Ya Isshin is up there in the top tier. I mean he and Urahara each bested at least one form of the transforming Aizen when he would have been dramatically more powerful than he was just as a captain. As a captain, even without his tricks Aizen was a match for most of the existing captains save a few.
I've never believed that the time is the same in the world of the living vs SS vs HM. If it was ALL of this stuff happened to EVERYONE. In one summer? Or sorry, in the fall. Think about that. Nnoritora and Nel were aroncars before aizen betrayed the SS. And he says it's been YEARS since he seen her BUT she has a number.
bruh isshin was so powerful he was able to drain hella spiritual energy then right after go fight aizen and not go down as easy as the other captains did
I always assumed Isshin was stronger because he is Shiba, one of the four oldest families of Soul Society, and I assumed these families are very powerful. The other families being Shouhoin and Kuchiki. The other family I can't remember the name. But anyway that's why I thought Ichigo was so powerful because he was a Shiba
i like him as much as i like minato in naruto. I'm really sad that he did not get a real full fight. Though he is not as strong as aizen. Aizen like madara was so confident in his power that he did not take the fight really seriously. But he is a monster, one of the best shinigami amongs all the captains and captains level character. he deserves a spot on the top 10.
Who cares if Grand Fisher thinks he's Captain tier? He's probably never met a captain, otherwise he'd be a goner. Also, Findorr made the same claim and was made to look like an idiot for it.
We never see him in his true power. Remember currently in his current state he doesnt have all his former abilities since he gave it up when he married ichigos mother. In his weakened stated he was able to embarrass aizen and never even entered his bankai form. In his prime he must've been super powerful.
He’s not stronger than base Aizen what? Are you forgetting Aizen was massively damaged from that attack from Yamamoto? The forbidden kido that was SUPPOSED to kill them both? Plus Aizen was barely fighting seriously in his second form. Even Urahara noticed that
He’s a lot more stronger than we know and he knew of transcendence imagine if he learnt it and aizen knows something as well I hope kubo or someone else shows his bankai we only know it takes a toll on his body if damaged but in my opinion I would push him to be somewhere on kenpachi in his shikai. And guys just to say it’s my opinion so don’t start with the name calling it’s stupid but yeah. At the end of the day if someone keeps saying that the other person is using head cannon then there threatened by someone else’s knowledge so the one who starts it is the loser, people nowadays proclaim that they know everything but when challenged it’s head cannon or conspiracy theory and it’s a losers way of trying to win an argument but they just embarrass themselves instead.another thing is vasto lorde was on another level to ulquiurra he couldn’t even faze him at all he was getting destroyed with ease even ichigo was like didn’t do that to you and ulquiurra says something like the fight ain’t finished and ichigo reply’s cut off my arm and leg for it would be a fair fight
The problem with aizen vs isshin is, aizen isn’t going all out. He’s not using his shikai, which they don’t have a counter for. But aizen is feeding his reiatsu into the hogkyoku. So he’s technically fighting a nerfed aizen. How much is debatable, but it is a nerf. The crack that isshin made is less because he had the power to do so, and more as that’s just a cocoon and he broke that, doing no actual damage to aizen. But I do agree that base aizen to base isshin is pretty comparable.
In aizen fight urahara and kuchiki gave opening shot to isshin so he can use his getsuga tensho means urahara know that how strong isshin and his getsuga tensho
I don't think he's more powerful than base Aizen. You have to remember that before they fought, Aizen took a direct hit from Yama when he sacrificed his arm. That was a huge attack and Aizen tanked it. It probably drained him a great deal. Aizen had also just finished fighting half of the soul society alone. Isshin came in fresh and probably super pumped because he had just gotten his powers back. I would put the two of them in roughly the same power bracket at base level. Urahara as well.
I never really thought on isshin power like were he is on the scale. He strong fr but idk why isshin was allowing ichigo to do it cause him and urahara still had stuff up their sleeve cause both have bankia and isshin was foreshadowing to have mugetsu. It could be because of his loss of power he couldn't handle raising his power did he even activate shikai?
I don't know why ppl don't scale ishinn's dangai feat he literally held it together it was stated to be outside of the regular time space that should count as something you should've covered it lol he could maybe be universal+ maybe higher I guess?
Well i believe ichigo could have one shotted Byakuya if he was at full power with out Bankai... Remember it was stated that Old man Zangetsu (his quincy half) was purposely supressing Ichigo's full power by more then half alao ichigo didn't have a true Zanpakuto wich allows a Shinigami to fight at their full true power. Basically ichigo was nerfed.
I would also like to state ichigo was actually nerfed in his fight with Aizen, he couldnt access gis full Vizord powers cause he was afraid of losing control again. Kubo stated if ichigo was not afraid then he would have been able to summon his Hollows full power wich is the form we see Shiro Zangetsu use when ichigo wants to gain Final getsuga. Dangai ichigo btw is just ichigo at full power not being held back and is completely one with his hollow and quincy powers. Now ichigo should have been stronger then Isshin. Though Dangai ichigo also got a year worth of training in a day basically trying to learn final getsuga. So I wouldn't say full powered ichigo is exactly on par with dangai ichigo but near there, i would basically put base full power ichigo above isshin.
I believe he is above base Aizen but I don't really think he can fight 2nd and 3rd fusion Aizen, he admits that he can't feel aizens SP and said that the only person who can feel it is someone who had reached the same level so he admitted that he isn't on that level. And about his mugetsu its really interesting but we don't really know about it and I don't think we can predict how much he will get stronger when he uses it.
Yeah, get off that weed bruh. Aizen had so much spiritual pressure that neither Urahara, Yoruichi, nor Isshin could sense him anymore. And he gets even stronger after that by going into Butterfly 4th Fusion. And even 5th Fusion Monster Form. And Dangai was still almost as if he was a dimension above him in terms of spiritual pressure. With Bankai, he at most goes up to 3rd Fusion lvl.
The Ichigo vs Byaguka fight isn't a very good power comparison, even throughout the fight Ichigos Hollow/True Shinigami powers kept increasing his power/influencing him more than they where supposed to, and his mask was quite a bit stronger then it was supposed to be aswell. In a regular sparring or even regular battle scenario that isn't an emergency deathmatch, Byakuya was still a fair bit stronger. Similar to how Ichigo beat Kenpachi, yet the next arc Kenpachi was boxing actual strong Espada, and beating them, aswell with him and Byakuya fighting Espada 0.
We know that Isshin using Shikai or Bankai damages his body, so that's most likely the reason he didn't use them, since he was just again getting used to his powers, and his body wasn't used to it again... However... Why do they hurt his body just using them? Theory: Isshin is so insanely strong in his base form, that even using his Shikai propels him into the tier of transcendent beings, making his Bankai probably ranked 2nd or third even among Squad 0. HOWEVER, because his base state isn't quite at the level of a transcendent being requires, this naturally causes damage to him. This is my best guess on why his Shikai/Bankai hurt him, which leads to the reason he didn't use them and just one shot 2nd or 3rd, possibly even 4th form Aizen.
Kenpachi got stronger after his fight with Ichigo. Actually, he regained part of his original power. After the fight with Noitra he became even more stronger as he almost died there. Yammy was a joke to him by the time they fought.
It is implied that Isshin is ridiculously powerful. To push Aizen back with one finger flick after barely regaining his powers means he was likely one of the most powerful captains of his generation. He is a descendant of Noble Shiba and was probably that once in a decade Descendant who could learn Bankai. He was underutilized, but I see why story-wise.
Branch family in the Shiba clan, as Isshin is part of, these members have naturally higher spiritual pressure than all other Shinigami. Good call mate.
Adding to this, Isshin was in his BASE form when fought with Aizen - pushing him back with a forehead flick and cracking Aizen's chrysalis with a getsuga tensho. This is the same Aizen where captains in bankai and shikai and visoreds with masks on were struggling with
@@marcusj17yup, it's even rumoured that Isshin might be the son or grandson of Yamamoto cause they both have powerful fire based Zanpakuto and both their Zanpakuto are Based on the Phoenix.
Isshin was considered the second most powerful Captain of his generation below Yamamoto.
Aizen was below Isshin, and Aizen was considered the strongest Captain below Yamamoto... Yeah people be Sleeping of Isshin.
@@marcusj17 condom form Aizen was was weakened because all his energy was being used to transform, still, isshin literally lifted up the dangai
Isshin one of the most underrated characters
He lost all his soulreaper power for his family
@@Jameson52722 he still has his power remember he fought Aizen
I think he means that Isshin isn’t as powerful as he was before he originally gave up his powers. He can’t use his shikai or bankai anymore.
I hate how they never really addressed that Rangiku was Isshin’s lieutenant. I swear there were even times where she was around him when she was in Karakura town
I mean he has aged a bit and had no spiritual pressure so it’s not too crazy she wouldn’t recognise him. Especially with how his personality has changed.
@@zac7790 his appearance really didn't change much atleast not enough that she won't recognise him and she could have atleast wondered why this guy looks like her captain
it's just a plot-hole, no biggie.
@@hangover4833 yup no other way to justify it
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He is very powerful to push back Aizen with one finger. THAT WAS EPIC SHIT RIGHT THERE! 😳😳
That flick of the finger was priceless he baby aizen up 😂😂😂
@Aim bot yeah but I’m sure that‘s only because of the Hogyokou inside of Aizen. looking at the fight, Aizen couldn’t do Jack shit to Isshin until the point the Hogyokou made him Transform. I think on a „fair“ battle, Isshin would rape Aizen. Like Isshin didn‘t even activate his Shikai nor Bankai. But that‘s just my opinion.
@Don’t at Me i mean he fought ichigo when he got a powerup from a magical orb that kinda grants wishes and for yhwach he fought him after he did the longest training arc in history
in aizen vs isshin i'd say aizen would win because kyoka suigetsu but in a battle of pure power i might say isshin
@Don’t at Me yeah no
@@Ragazaloth Is isshin finna be in the final arc
Just remember, Isshin (200+ years old) fell in love with a highschool girl
She was 15 nd he got her pregnant the second she turned 18 a stated 3 years later. Nobody said he waited or nothing she just got pregnant w Ichigo at that time.
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@Desedoo The Spellsword highschool uniform
@@TheQuancy what's to say they don't use the same uniform
Just divide every soul reapers age by ten and it makes it legal
There is something important in his White fight:
It's stated he cannot go into Bankai if he's hurt. So he either hasn't mastered it; or his Bankai is very high-risk to himself.
I’m pretty sure it’s the latter...and it only adds to how dangerous that bankai is
@@bg357wg its kinda like u need to be in good condition to use the bankai properly. See what happpened with kenapchi lr kurosaki when bankai isnt used properly. Bankai puts alot pf pressure on the user. Regardless of its power.
@@aimanbabahmed7449 mmmm I would say at the very least Ichigo’s first bankai (and the first bankai in the show) says otherwise, since he got really bloodied up by trying to fend off senbonzakura in shikai form, but when he went to bankai he was suddenly fine again and pretty much kicked ass against someone like Byakuya
@@bg357wg he was kicking byakuyas ass untill he couldnt sustain his own bankai anymore and became slower and slower until he couldnt even move. So yeah bankai puts a strain to u. Especially if u havent mastered it or ur in a bad shape. Remember that in that fight ichigo wasnt fully healed and only just attained bankai. Normally it takes 10 years to fully master bankai.
@@aimanbabahmed7449 I’m not necessarily disagreeing with the part that bankai puts a strain on the user in most cases (of course, wielding greater power and emitting larger amounts of reiatsu is always more draining) I’m only disputing the part where being in good physical condition is a necessary prerequisite for all to enter and use bankai, as we’ve seen many characters go into bankai after being beat up and cornered in shikai form. Ikkaku vs Edrad Is another example that just came to mind.
Am i the only that finds it cool af that isshin can ignite his blood?
Nope u are not the only one
Me too, I think is a pretty dope concept. I only wished it was used more than once.
Ignite his blood?
@@Clayton178 pretty much explode it
Bro got that E85 blood
The main reason people underestimate Isshin is because he didn't do jack shit with his power.
What does naruto have to do with bleach? Both different writers with their own ideas.
@@Clayton178 who are you replying to?
@@hangover4833 Who do you think?
@@Clayton178 who tf said anything about naruto bozo
@@rabood Stupid boy, youtuber obviously.
He is like an alive Minato. They need to not give him feats or there will be no need for the mc
They didn't have Isshin fight Yhwach because daddy Kurosaki would've just slapped him and the fight would've been over.
It kind of doesn’t make sense why they weren’t going all out against Aizen. They know the stakes if Aizen gets his way so why didn’t they use their bankais. Isshin didn’t even use shikai
For Isshin it was just rust (since his own bankai actually causes damage to own body similar to Soul Society bankai Ichigo's bankai bone crushing reiatsu); Yoruichi doesn't like using her Zanpakuto, she prefers hand to hand combat (& seeing from the TYBW when she fought Askin, she'd rather die than use her half baked power up which means she'd rather die than use her Zanpakuto) & Kanon Baraki Benehime Aratame would have proved useless against Aizen
Getsuga tensho is an ability from Engetsu, we've seen different shikai configurations with Tousen and Yumichica. A getsuga is not a sealed sword attack so he was using shikai
They didn't go all out because it was essentially futile. Kisuke knows about the hogyoku, he made it after all. I'm sure he knew that Aizen's fusing with it would make him immortal. There was no way they could beat him. Ichigo had to have time in the Dangai to train, and that was only possible due to Isshin's power being enough to hold the Dangai for as long as he did. Ichigo was then able to push Aizen to the point where Kisuke's seal could activate.
@@primeroespadax no he wasn’t using shikai
@Don’t at Me his fullbring took after his shinigami powers. Ichigo's main ability s compression of spirit energy for amplification. He wears his fullbring much like his bankai, indicating that lke his bankai, his entire spirit energy is compressed which increases his attack speed and power. Tsukishima made mention to this unforseen speed and when Ichigo actually uses gersuga, they mentioned he's merged his shinigami powers with fullbring. It is a zanpakuto ability. Final getsuga tensho for Isshin should be something he could do on his own without consulting his zanpakuto if it wasn't his zanpakuto ability
Let's take a moment to realize that isshin wasn't fight white seriously because he knew aizin was there as well as not wanting to affect the world of the living too much either and remember isshin was one of the people aizin would advoid
Isshin is also from on of the royal houses as well so it make total sense he have this kinda power
I always wanted to see Ishin’s bankai, but I don’t mind not seeing it, I found the concept of not being able to use Bankai while badly wounded interesting. Makes the Bankai feel powerful.
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Like your body or soul have to be a tip top shape to use it cause it would be a drain on your own body something cool like that
The fact that isshin hasn't shown his awakened form should really speak volumes. Im not up-to-date on bleach after the anime shows (didn't read manga I really need to)ended, so what I know might be out dated but come on we don't even know what his ability are everything he has done is all him no added strength from his zanpakuto no hacks nothing its all up in the air maybe he is so far above everyone else and has 0 f to give because he could end anything as he sees fit ... why be concerned about ... YOUR son when he is everything you are plus more
Isshin frist time showing up I was like this man is a OG... I saw him back when the anime was released weekly and me and my ppl were trying to figure out what he was with the captain jacket ( yes I know that not what its called I just suck at spelling lol) on his arm. I was thinking he was part of zero squad
Before we saw what zero squad and ishhin back story
Cool👍
technically isshin could join zero squad eventually, he helped create ichigo who was a big contribution to soul society
Isshin is one of my Favorite bleach Char‘s and I’m 100% sure, without Aizen having the Hogyoko he would have beat the living shit out of Aizen. Aizen couldn’t do shit against Isshin before the Hogyoko made him transform and even if we say Aizen held back... so did Isshin, not using Shikai nor Bankai. Aizen just got the survival Plotarmor called Hogyoko that Regens him, without that he‘d lose to Isshin 100%. I wish we would have seen a Isshin that goes all out or close to it.
The reason might be that after loosing his shingami powers for 20 years and regaining them back means he might have to learn bankai once more as well as mugtesu due to him loosing his link with his powers for so long. This is just my theory.
I wish it was him and Ryuken fighting Gerard in his final form; that would’ve been worth reading.
if no one doesn't know Isshin kurasaki was a former captain and head of one of the Five Noble Houses, Isshin had possesses a monstrous amount of spiritual energy that even rival kyoraku and ukitake but he used to have a greater amount of it before losing his powers.[14] Ichigo and Shinji are able to sense its strong presence from miles away. Kon was stunned by the level of Isshin's power when he watched Isshin kill Grand Fisher with one swing of his sealed Zanpakutō.[126] Using his Reiatsu, he can fixate the Kōryū in the Dangai by himself for up to two thousand hours (roughly three months) before it runs out, something which lower-echelon Shinigami come in by the dozens to do under normal circumstances.[108]Masaki Kurosaki described his Reiatsu as "incredibly powerful".[
If i remember correctly rangiku was his vice captain right.....?
@@zoeyyymccool8625 yep you are correct
it just occurred to me that isshin and rangiku are a bit similar. Isshin lost his powers for a while and rangiku had half of her reiatsu stolen by aizen so she could be stronger than what she currently is
Is he gonna be in the final arc coming out this year
Remember when he fought White he was in the real world, not soul Society his power was less than normal even Toshiro's bankia was a bit useless against that arranca guy.
Yep even espada 4 got outclass by the white... Isshin not even in bankai state
Ishin is one of the royal 5 families from the beginning of all. So yea he’s OP as hell.
What does that mean lol. Ganju was trash
@@jrod908
Ganju is comic relief, but in reality the heads of the Royal families are exceptionally powerful in the bleach universe.
I think u r right bro....I didn't even paid attention to the details yoruichi's shunko was child's play to him but the same isshin without even shikai, his gengetsu was able to crack open Aizen's head🤤
Definitely subbed keep this heat coming bro 💪🏽
I can't believe this video was made a year ago.
Not to mention, hanzo killed yahihiko and crippled nagato for life.
Just saying
Just saying
Konoha gets all the spotlight
All prophecies and powerful shit happened and came from there
The other events from other villages are just mere sideshows
Author tried to compensate for it by making extra OP shinobis from other villages
Thats the biggest complaint about narutos worldbuilding
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Pretty sure Negato crippled himself summoning the Gedo Statue and then Hanzo ran
What if that Aizen just wanted the lumen and never intended to kill the gotei as he wanted them to see him becoming the king of all that’s why he might have been holding back while fighting the trio of danger.....
thats exactly what it is.. which is why he never killed any captains.. he only killed gin because gin actually had the power to kill him and it wouldnt have been wise to leave him around.. also i think he felt alittle more disrespected that his right hand man was actually a double agent
i only noticed now in the video but u couldve known from his first appearence that he once was a captain since hes still wearing the robe on his arm or at least it looks very similar to the captains cloaks
Man I would go so far to say that he could have won against Aizen but he wouldn't have had the opportunity to push Ighigos evolution
Watch a twist happen and Ishin is the actual ultimate bad guy trying to assert the Shiba clan for some crazy injustice of sorts lol
Isshin finger does more damage than the whole Gotei 13 and the Visored combined and that was only his base he didn't even release his Shikai
Urahara is also unbelievably strong for who he is and having not practiced in literally years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt the anime itself named after white? Meaning that Kubo didnt just want to call the anime white, hence it's called bleach. Why would isshins fight with white be disregarded as trivial against a being that the anime itself is named after?
He's the one that when wuold come back ti soul society wuold enjoy fighting and training with kenpachi. Teo very badass characters, love them
The perfect training partner
Learn how to spell damn
@@kolosersoh9153 u shit
Isshin got the superb middle finger.
Just because he cant sense Aizen doesn't mean that he cant make an attack that Aizen can feel for a vrief moment
Everyone also forgets that Isshin was only at 70%! Of his powers restored! 70% DUDE!
It would also be pretty cool for you to do a video about Ryuken and Masaki!
hes familial was one of the s.s. founders and he was also olther than Rukia's brother so maybe that's why?
Isshin being that strong is exactly why Ichigo is this strong. I mean Ichigo is pretty worthy of soul king.
Well soul king is more like coz ichigo is also a mix between all different races, shingami quincy and fullbring.
Bit yea isshin also play role on how powrrful ichigo is
I mean an Isshin that isn't rusty would probably be around the level of Byakuya (since both are nobles). I don't think he is as powerfull as the likes of Shunsui or Gin (since Gin f*cking killed the version of Aizen that knocked him up in 1 attack and Shunsui fought against Lile Barro and did considerably well)
@@joaquincortescasas8114 what about a isshin using final getsuga ?
@@mentalprograming5365 That's like saying how strong Yoruichi would be using her bankai, we don't know since it was never shown said character doing that
isshin is the definition of inconsistent. kewl but inconsistent
Yes I agree Isshin is infact a Daddy.
Hanzo stopped training before he died against Pain, who could’ve also smacked the Sanin simultaneously, but Edo Hanzo that was beaten by Mifune wasn’t his prime.
Head captain for sure
Ichigo (Soul Society Arc) VS the Six PAIN
Ichigo should blitz him
Massively above light speed ma dude.
ULTORA BULITSU SPEEDO!!!(Ultra Blitz Speed)
First nice video bro there are not a lot of video about Ichigo Father. Second i think he is more powerful than we think specially when he was still about to help Ichigo in the Dangai after being beat by Aizen third level.
His most impressive feat of strength is to tank all that potentially lethal abuse from his children, and just shrug it off like it's just a slapstick-sketch.
Tbh it would be cool to see his bankai.. But I get why they didn't use their bankais against Aizen after breaking his crystalisis-stage. They realized at that point that even if they manage to turn the tables on himi again, he's only get even stronger!
I think people forget one crucial detail about Isshin's duel against White.
The Gentai Rein. Or however you spell the word.
Even if Isshin left without permission, I doubt he could pass through the Dangai and arrive in the Human World unless he was restricted.
Meaning Isshin fought White at 20% of his strength.
@Chibi Crimson AIGGT U DUMB AS HELL. Aizen states that without the hogyoku he would of died to base urahara with kido that on its own puts urahara above base Aizen who can solo the espada. Also urahara does not get stronger throughout the show so saying pre tbyw means nothing he's the same.
@Chibi Crimson I always get shit like this from people always getting butt hurt and complaining with empty answers and then claim things that haven’t been proven and I’m not taking sides but this is exactly what I get, it’s sad things like this is supposed to get people together but instead it’s all about who’s thinks they have more knowledge and claim other people have fuck all, it’s sad come on guys stuck together and stop with the petty names
@Chibi Crimson MAN UR USING HEAD Cannon. Prove he got stronger.
@Chibi Crimson how was he ulquiorra level only. This man being able to one shot base Aizen with kido alone is only ulquiorra level.
@Chibi Crimson I think you both have a point but what I haven’t heard is kubo say shunsui is stronger than aizen if he did than I don’t deny but I would like to see some evidence and I know that ulquiurra is stronger than urahara for the that he wasn’t intimidated and could block them pretty much easily but he was suppressed so I don’t know as far as im concerned urahara is stronger than ulquiurra look at his fight with askin he weren’t exactly weak was he and that’s after urahara isn’t suppressed anymore but suppressed he has knowledge to have a advantage against people and I don’t know if he’s massively stronger than isshin but that’s my opinion we can’t really scale him with little we know but in this instance than yeah based off of what we know. I do believe urahara to be stronger than ulquiurra he was suppressed in a human body while fighting aizen but he wouldn’t win but has a possibility if he weren’t suppressed that’s what I think anyway I can’t really say that’s evidence it’s more speculation but I think that he would of aizen didn’t have the hogyoku. Aizen stated to be more stronger than the other captains and felt alone but why would he need to feel the need to send sway kenpachi and seal yama and admit that he couldn’t win, it makes no sense
I am asking why did ishin used ichigo when he could have done it ......even when he knew ichigos power would disappear
thats probly exactly why he did it.. he wanted his son to have a normal life or try to allow him closure as a warrior
When ishin fought white his power sealed because captains have limiters placed on them wen the enter the world of the living so that fight is actually a testament to how powerful he truly is.
i honestly think isshin urahara and yoruichi are on aizen level, that why kubo had to wait until aizen transforme with ogyoku to make him fight them. i mean guys like toshiro or kyoraku can't even see aizen mooving, while isshin fight with him very easily
Just based on his own strength, those three were well above Aizen. Aizen needed to haxx to best them even individually.
@@pyrolight7568 well yes and no.. aizen is constantly evolving so technically theres no character in bleach history that can defeat him if he were allowed to roam free... he literally defeated himself via his thoughts and intentions.. he probly no longer wanted to fight and the hokyoku misunderstood him.. isshin in bankai was probly equal to ichigo in final getsuga or one step lower but hes not wrote as the main guy.. truthfully bad writing..
We need a miniseries with him as his rise to captain and so on
isshins shikai/bankai(idk wich one it was) turns his blood into flames and power so if hes hurt just a litle and blood is flowing out he might just burn himself to death and there might also be some friendly fire risk aswell
I know you are doing Stark next, but when will you do the Quinceys(personally Gremmy[because of the downplay]).
Don't sleep on Isshin!
Ya Isshin is up there in the top tier. I mean he and Urahara each bested at least one form of the transforming Aizen when he would have been dramatically more powerful than he was just as a captain. As a captain, even without his tricks Aizen was a match for most of the existing captains save a few.
I've never believed that the time is the same in the world of the living vs SS vs HM. If it was ALL of this stuff happened to EVERYONE. In one summer? Or sorry, in the fall. Think about that. Nnoritora and Nel were aroncars before aizen betrayed the SS. And he says it's been YEARS since he seen her BUT she has a number.
bruh isshin was so powerful he was able to drain hella spiritual energy then right after go fight aizen and not go down as easy as the other captains did
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I always assumed Isshin was stronger because he is Shiba, one of the four oldest families of Soul Society, and I assumed these families are very powerful. The other families being Shouhoin and Kuchiki. The other family I can't remember the name. But anyway that's why I thought Ichigo was so powerful because he was a Shiba
Fate Extra CCC Gilgamesh vs the Dragon Ball Xenoverse characters.
i like him as much as i like minato in naruto. I'm really sad that he did not get a real full fight. Though he is not as strong as aizen. Aizen like madara was so confident in his power that he did not take the fight really seriously. But he is a monster, one of the best shinigami amongs all the captains and captains level character. he deserves a spot on the top 10.
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Also love your vids
What exactly is his Bankai
Who cares if Grand Fisher thinks he's Captain tier? He's probably never met a captain, otherwise he'd be a goner. Also, Findorr made the same claim and was made to look like an idiot for it.
I want to see isshhin’s Bankai.
We never see him in his true power. Remember currently in his current state he doesnt have all his former abilities since he gave it up when he married ichigos mother. In his weakened stated he was able to embarrass aizen and never even entered his bankai form. In his prime he must've been super powerful.
Probably a top 8 Shinigami, it’s unfortunate he didn’t do more
im going to go out on a limb and say issin in bankai is either just as strong as final getsuga isshigo or extremely close
He’s not stronger than base Aizen what? Are you forgetting Aizen was massively damaged from that attack from Yamamoto? The forbidden kido that was SUPPOSED to kill them both? Plus Aizen was barely fighting seriously in his second form. Even Urahara noticed that
Why can’t I fuckin turn it
He’s a lot more stronger than we know and he knew of transcendence imagine if he learnt it and aizen knows something as well I hope kubo or someone else shows his bankai we only know it takes a toll on his body if damaged but in my opinion I would push him to be somewhere on kenpachi in his shikai. And guys just to say it’s my opinion so don’t start with the name calling it’s stupid but yeah. At the end of the day if someone keeps saying that the other person is using head cannon then there threatened by someone else’s knowledge so the one who starts it is the loser, people nowadays proclaim that they know everything but when challenged it’s head cannon or conspiracy theory and it’s a losers way of trying to win an argument but they just embarrass themselves instead.another thing is vasto lorde was on another level to ulquiurra he couldn’t even faze him at all he was getting destroyed with ease even ichigo was like didn’t do that to you and ulquiurra says something like the fight ain’t finished and ichigo reply’s cut off my arm and leg for it would be a fair fight
Why did you feel the need to defend yourself along with your statement? Who hurt you, man? Don't take commenters seriously.
Why didnt he go bankai
What about his daughters Ik they are soul reapers too
The problem with aizen vs isshin is, aizen isn’t going all out. He’s not using his shikai, which they don’t have a counter for. But aizen is feeding his reiatsu into the hogkyoku. So he’s technically fighting a nerfed aizen. How much is debatable, but it is a nerf. The crack that isshin made is less because he had the power to do so, and more as that’s just a cocoon and he broke that, doing no actual damage to aizen. But I do agree that base aizen to base isshin is pretty comparable.
Did he real just say that ichigo could gut Byakuya at the beginning of the series?
In the beginning of their fight bruh he could of killed byakuya but removed his sword that was when he used bankia
@@kingdrogo6124 yup...had it right at his neck before Byakuya could see where he went. If Ichigo killed, he would've decapitated him
who thinks bleach hub should do ichigo vs naruto
For me, Isshin is the strongest Shinigami; I would even claim that he could defeat Yamamoto's Zanka no Tachi on his own. 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
In aizen fight urahara and kuchiki gave opening shot to isshin so he can use his getsuga tensho means urahara know that how strong isshin and his getsuga tensho
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I don't think he's more powerful than base Aizen. You have to remember that before they fought, Aizen took a direct hit from Yama when he sacrificed his arm. That was a huge attack and Aizen tanked it. It probably drained him a great deal. Aizen had also just finished fighting half of the soul society alone. Isshin came in fresh and probably super pumped because he had just gotten his powers back. I would put the two of them in roughly the same power bracket at base level. Urahara as well.
Ichigo aint gonna one shot byakuya
He literally blitzed him and had his sword at his throat. Byakuya's arrogance would've got him killed but Ichigo not cut like that
@@LuckyLefty92 thank you .. ichicgo is that guy ... but not that guy to just take down byakuya like that
isshin is hella downplayed he finger flicked base aizen which is multi galaxy level lol
Everyone is forgetting that Aizen took a huuuuge kido hit from Yama before Isshin engaged him. That shot probably tank Aizens power quite a bit.
I never really thought on isshin power like were he is on the scale. He strong fr but idk why isshin was allowing ichigo to do it cause him and urahara still had stuff up their sleeve cause both have bankia and isshin was foreshadowing to have mugetsu. It could be because of his loss of power he couldn't handle raising his power did he even activate shikai?
He’s that old got with his mum and people complain about ichigo and rukia s gap
Isshin and ryuken should have had more screen time. He would have been broken in tybw. I wish we saw his bankai
Is shin was part of one of the noble houses also 😏
you said naruto in the first minute and i was out
Bankai ichigo tagged with bankai isshin------ vs someone strong (ywach/aizen/tokinada)
I don't know why ppl don't scale ishinn's dangai feat he literally held it together it was stated to be outside of the regular time space that should count as something you should've covered it lol he could maybe be universal+ maybe higher I guess?
Just no.
@@Zero-ef4sc I changed my mind on it.
Well i believe ichigo could have one shotted Byakuya if he was at full power with out Bankai... Remember it was stated that Old man Zangetsu (his quincy half) was purposely supressing Ichigo's full power by more then half alao ichigo didn't have a true Zanpakuto wich allows a Shinigami to fight at their full true power.
Basically ichigo was nerfed.
I would also like to state ichigo was actually nerfed in his fight with Aizen, he couldnt access gis full Vizord powers cause he was afraid of losing control again. Kubo stated if ichigo was not afraid then he would have been able to summon his Hollows full power wich is the form we see Shiro Zangetsu use when ichigo wants to gain Final getsuga.
Dangai ichigo btw is just ichigo at full power not being held back and is completely one with his hollow and quincy powers.
Now ichigo should have been stronger then Isshin.
Though Dangai ichigo also got a year worth of training in a day basically trying to learn final getsuga.
So I wouldn't say full powered ichigo is exactly on par with dangai ichigo but near there, i would basically put base full power ichigo above isshin.
yoruichi vid next?????
Please do a hitsugaya vs byakuya video😭😭
I believe he is above base Aizen but I don't really think he can fight 2nd and 3rd fusion Aizen, he admits that he can't feel aizens SP and said that the only person who can feel it is someone who had reached the same level so he admitted that he isn't on that level. And about his mugetsu its really interesting but we don't really know about it and I don't think we can predict how much he will get stronger when he uses it.
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Definitely top 5 strongest of the season
In Bankai he'd probably be almost as strong as Dangai Ichigo
Get off that weed.
Yeah, get off that weed bruh. Aizen had so much spiritual pressure that neither Urahara, Yoruichi, nor Isshin could sense him anymore. And he gets even stronger after that by going into Butterfly 4th Fusion. And even 5th Fusion Monster Form. And Dangai was still almost as if he was a dimension above him in terms of spiritual pressure. With Bankai, he at most goes up to 3rd Fusion lvl.
Others Hyping Minato for a reason in Naruto..... Then here's Isshin not even introduced his Bankai any at all....
Yup I cinda a agree ashine is really strong just like his son 😜
Shingami can't go all out in any fight. At least not in terms of range. Otherwise they will destroy everything
The Ichigo vs Byaguka fight isn't a very good power comparison, even throughout the fight Ichigos Hollow/True Shinigami powers kept increasing his power/influencing him more than they where supposed to, and his mask was quite a bit stronger then it was supposed to be aswell. In a regular sparring or even regular battle scenario that isn't an emergency deathmatch, Byakuya was still a fair bit stronger. Similar to how Ichigo beat Kenpachi, yet the next arc Kenpachi was boxing actual strong Espada, and beating them, aswell with him and Byakuya fighting Espada 0.
We know that Isshin using Shikai or Bankai damages his body, so that's most likely the reason he didn't use them, since he was just again getting used to his powers, and his body wasn't used to it again... However... Why do they hurt his body just using them?
Theory: Isshin is so insanely strong in his base form, that even using his Shikai propels him into the tier of transcendent beings, making his Bankai probably ranked 2nd or third even among Squad 0. HOWEVER, because his base state isn't quite at the level of a transcendent being requires, this naturally causes damage to him.
This is my best guess on why his Shikai/Bankai hurt him, which leads to the reason he didn't use them and just one shot 2nd or 3rd, possibly even 4th form Aizen.
Kenpachi got stronger after his fight with Ichigo. Actually, he regained part of his original power. After the fight with Noitra he became even more stronger as he almost died there. Yammy was a joke to him by the time they fought.