3D Printed Hydrofoil Surfboard - Will it Work?

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2022
  • A hydrofoil is an airplane-like wing structure under the water attached to a surfboard that generates lift. In this video I will mount an electric motor that will make it possible to lift out of the water and "fly" above the water.
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  • @dominik3187
    @dominik3187 Рік тому +1170

    I assume that the wings bend and a lot of lifiting power gets lost. Try to Analyse the under water situation by using a GoPro or such. Great video. Love to see part 2

    • @HaloWolf102
      @HaloWolf102 Рік тому +15

      Bump

    • @brendanmassaro9595
      @brendanmassaro9595 Рік тому +46

      That was my thought as well. Given how thin they are, when put under the load of a full person they probably just deform to the point that there is no lift

    • @sam-bn5hl
      @sam-bn5hl Рік тому +4

      i thought so too

    • @alexwbakker
      @alexwbakker Рік тому +32

      When I've seen commercial foils, they were VERY stiff - all solid CF and resin. I think the 3D print / wrap approach is not rigid enough Maybe 3d print a new one with room for a truss rod?

    • @PhantomPanic
      @PhantomPanic Рік тому +1

      Or maybe good ideas from people that have created successful boards.

  • @JarcodeRover
    @JarcodeRover Рік тому +560

    The presenting and editing makes it such a joy to watch! Nice job Simon!

  • @jayls5
    @jayls5 Рік тому +103

    I just want to say that I love the humor laced throughout your builds as you run through the trial and error process.

  • @adrienviallet92
    @adrienviallet92 Рік тому +57

    Great project ! Your main wing looks quite small, I do kitefoiling and the typical front wings are around 800cm2. Then the wingfoilers use bigger wings like 1000 to 1800cm2. I think you should try at least a 1000cm2 front wing with a 300cm2 rear wing for it to lift you over ;)

  • @machine2747
    @machine2747 Рік тому +115

    I always look forward to your videos. You're not afraid to show the development process and the failures along the way. Keep up the great work and you'll hit a million subs before you know it!

  • @dries-pederjanse6249
    @dries-pederjanse6249 Рік тому +214

    I really like your video style and how you show your mistakes and your trial and error, and you have great dedication.
    Edit: Is it possible to put jets on and have water cooling run trough the foil in to the board?

  • @marsgizmo
    @marsgizmo Рік тому +13

    great progress on this, looking forward to the next iterations 😎

  • @Alex-gg8rt
    @Alex-gg8rt Рік тому +34

    The foil sticking into the bottom of the board was hilarious! I think you need much much bigger wings. Also wings with a lower aspect ratio will make them stronger and more stable at lower speeds. Look at winging boards for inspiration.

    • @simonfauser4179
      @simonfauser4179 10 місяців тому

      Not necessarily, since the plastic box was above the foil mast, it was preventing him from getting his weight back, also higher aspect wings are usually better at everything that isnt carving + yaw

  • @retrohit8933
    @retrohit8933 Рік тому +91

    I hydrofoil a lot and if you were to stand back a little more that would of definitely flew in the water. It’s a huge balance game.

    • @henryknowacki3554
      @henryknowacki3554 Рік тому +12

      I have also a foil but electric and i think that you just need a bigger motor or bigger wing, is just not enough lift, if he leaned back more it would lift but the wing would stall immediately i have like 30h on a electric foil so i know a little bit

    • @retrohit8933
      @retrohit8933 Рік тому +5

      @@henryknowacki3554Yeah I agree stall or un-natural flight angle on the front wing could also happen instead of flight. Definitely more speed could help too no matter wing surface area. However, these are all things worth trying but stance would be an easy test before tedious fabrication.

    • @EnlightenedSavage
      @EnlightenedSavage Рік тому +7

      Yes ne needs to lean back more problem is the box to all the electronics are right where he needs to stand so he'll have to address that somehow.

    • @lordsqueak
      @lordsqueak Рік тому +7

      My gut feeling, is that the box is in the way, so he can't stand back any more. Something to consider for future designs I guess.

    • @chassmith7303
      @chassmith7303 Рік тому

      yeah he needs to be able to stand in such a way that his center of gravity is a fulcrum for the wing

  • @chasgiv4
    @chasgiv4 Рік тому +57

    You probably could have gotten it to work but you have the battery components blocking you from standing over the foils. My suggestion, for simplicity, is to add a footstop behind the battery and controller compartment. That way you can balance your weight over the foil. I don't think you have quite enough power to stand in front of the foil at this point. Maybe not even standing over it but worth a shot. Good luck. Can't wait to see your next steps and future projects.

    • @redman2751
      @redman2751 Рік тому +5

      That’s what I was thinking. What would happen if he left the foil as in bud shifted the weight back. One foot behind the electronics box and one in front.

    • @steltron
      @steltron Рік тому +1

      Correct. If his body weight is too far forward on the board, the foil will never lift him.

    • @capodad2u
      @capodad2u Рік тому +2

      Yup you need your weight centered over the lifting wing. Can't believe he didn't consider that fact when building this.

    • @nono9370
      @nono9370 Рік тому

      @@capodad2u has to be a lil in front of quarter chord to maintain stability, But at his speeds the wing is too small, he needs more power

    • @tuulkarijere9992
      @tuulkarijere9992 Рік тому +1

      Most commonly the center of mass should be directly above the front wing. Now the back foot is roughly above the front wing. It really seems that there is some lift coming from the foil. Just try to stand like Charles suggested and the board/foil should rise from the water. If not, then you check the angle/size of your front wing. Nice work, keep going!

  • @skullcraftcustoms
    @skullcraftcustoms Рік тому +9

    What I like about this video is you present even the fails as a fabricator and designer myself I have come up with all kinds of ideas that in theory should work but it takes me forever to perfect and get them working the way they are intended so kudos to you for providing the video footage because people need to understand the amount of work it takes to get a CustomDesign working correctly

  • @hvacinc
    @hvacinc Рік тому

    Love how persistent you are at design changes that will help you reach your goals.

  • @ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958
    @ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958 Рік тому +50

    Love the creative ways of putting on the wetsuit. I've been following all the jet-boards with great interest. Hopefully I can make one of my own one day. As an old guy who is 65, I can relate to issues getting it up. You're young and will definitely get it up the next time. The idea of using 3-d printed parts as a shape to fiberglass over is brilliant and should be real useful.

  • @bobhawkey3783
    @bobhawkey3783 Рік тому +52

    I love how you just iterate past things that don't work the first time. The little editing cuts are hilarious. Since I have no skills I can only suggest some Velcro in the electronics enclosure to keep things from sliding around. Oh and maybe a gasket for the lid. Keep creating!

  • @yeasinjabed3630
    @yeasinjabed3630 Рік тому

    The amount of patience you have its amazing . very inspirational

  • @luisf7780
    @luisf7780 Рік тому +1

    That’s awesome. I’m always waiting for another video of yours. Truly an inspiration to keep myself of the bed and start working on a project. Keep it coming💪🏽🙏🏽

  • @GoldenHat333
    @GoldenHat333 Рік тому +47

    I tried basically the same project last year except I thought the board building from xps would be too time consuming so I just bought a cheap board from my local decathlon. Also did some research and found Ray Velinga' s videos explaining the hydrofoil calculations. he also has a book its a great read, it would help you a lot.
    One other difference between your design and mine is that I used two aluminium box section to strengthen the 1 m long spar, İt works great.
    now Im building a much stronger v2 cause the first one broke on the board-spar joint while testing.(on sea with me on it while my dad was pulling me with a boat. which was terrifying to say the least)

    • @SkootaKeir
      @SkootaKeir Рік тому +2

      You should video the building process for the second version bro!

    • @trif55
      @trif55 Рік тому +3

      big 3d prints like that really need some kind of extra strength, either box or threaded rod tightened down a bit like re-bar in concrete - I find thinking of 3d prints like concrete is good for the design process

    • @GoldenHat333
      @GoldenHat333 Рік тому +3

      @@trif55 Very nice analogy. When talking about pla I pretty much always use concrete as an example, cuz pla is stronger on compression then tension especially if the print lines are perpendicular to the force.
      Also its stronger than some materials like abs but not as flexible.

    • @OzAndyify
      @OzAndyify Рік тому +1

      I also used Al box section and shrink-tubed the bits. Not as strong as FG skin, but nice and smooth.

    • @GoldenHat333
      @GoldenHat333 Рік тому

      @@OzAndyify interesting 🤔 now I'm thinking what if I shrink tube after fiberglass/epoxy.
      Does shrink tube peal off easy.

  • @TheSchmuckCreations
    @TheSchmuckCreations Рік тому +90

    Your speed is fast enough to go up, but your wing is too small. Really impressive to see that the 3D printed mast resists with your second prototype 👌

    • @AlexLefevreArt
      @AlexLefevreArt Рік тому +11

      Either the wing is too small, or it flex too much under pressure. I would recommend a full carbon piece.

    • @donovanreid427
      @donovanreid427 Рік тому +2

      @@AlexLefevreArt it's both

    • @stevemazz3121
      @stevemazz3121 11 місяців тому

      I agree it is both.... but for sure the wing is to small and maybe the wrong shape for lift under load in the water.

  • @leGringoo
    @leGringoo Рік тому

    Honestly like your videos because you never back down if things go wrong or stuff breaks. Looking forward to the next part!

  • @iplop
    @iplop Рік тому +3

    I'm amazed that the larger hydrofoil mast survived without being glassed. Great job on those new print settings! 👍

  • @pfolvig
    @pfolvig Рік тому +8

    Your an inspiration mate. Keep it up.

  • @tomjoad1060
    @tomjoad1060 Рік тому +6

    Impressive. An inspiration to continue with our projects...)) Thanks

  • @philippphil3597
    @philippphil3597 Рік тому

    Im hyped to see the new wings installed, nice project !

  • @innercityprepper
    @innercityprepper Рік тому

    Your delivery of lines and editing is the best. Always makes me smile.

  • @OutsiderDreams
    @OutsiderDreams Рік тому +17

    Great work mate!
    A couple of thoughts:
    1. The lift created by the hydrofoil is proportional to the size of the wing and the angle of attack of the wing.
    See if you can design a few different airfoil sizes and add a method to adjust the angle of attack and test them.
    2. You may need to make the connection between the board and mast stronger. When the board is out of the water your entire weight will need to be supported by that joint.
    Consider doing a test on land where you attach the mast to something solid and then stand on the board. If it doesn't break, you're good.

  • @aidendunlap9353
    @aidendunlap9353 Рік тому +4

    I built my own hydrofoil through Clearwater foils and things I noticed with that is once you make it out of the water you lose all you surface tension/drag meaning you can go slower once you break free. Also make the wing thicker for more lift…

  • @DemsW
    @DemsW Рік тому +1

    Respect on the determination and execution, hope to see more

  • @alexphelan3737
    @alexphelan3737 Рік тому

    You build it, we love it. I continue to dream harder. Great job.

  • @oslogutt80
    @oslogutt80 Рік тому +3

    Amazing project.
    You probably need a bigger wing with a stronger material like carbon or even glassfiber to decrease the flex...

  • @JeremySeitz
    @JeremySeitz Рік тому +9

    I love your edits, makes the videos really fun! Can't wait for more!

  • @alwaysflying6540
    @alwaysflying6540 Рік тому

    I agree with the comment's. A great deal of people try to make perfect video's. I like the humor and the failures as much as the success. Looking forward to the next video

  • @MG-sg4xf
    @MG-sg4xf Рік тому

    its cool to watch! Nice job Simon!!

  • @tjarkmchenky
    @tjarkmchenky Рік тому +4

    I'm a windsurfer from Germany. I'm pretty shure, that you need a bigger front wing. (maybe out of carbon)? You are really fast, so fast enough to get up.
    Also your Board is really long. The Foil Boards in Windsurfing are a lot shorter and wider. Then the board ist also pushing more water down. And maybe you need to shape your nose a little more like a windsurfboard.
    But so far, great job. Be careful, if you're getting it and the Board ist lifting it will be very unstable. And if its lifting to much, the foil will get out of the water und dann you will crash very hard.

  • @zahnatom
    @zahnatom Рік тому +12

    you can check out actual foils for windsurfing boards to see how they do it(shape and size). i'd recommend windsurfing ones because those carry the most amount of weight(bigger board and a heavy rigg so a lot of weight)

    • @moite2665
      @moite2665 Рік тому +2

      Or a downscaled one off of a moth (sail boat).

    • @zahnatom
      @zahnatom Рік тому +2

      @@moite2665 if the structure scales properly then sure. windsurf foils are the perfect size though so they'll definitely work

  • @OldManHonken
    @OldManHonken Рік тому +1

    Seems like you're on the right path. Keep going, I'm sure you'll figure it out! Can't wait to see it.

  • @jimmym2719
    @jimmym2719 10 місяців тому

    The 3D printed foils n Mask didn’t break is amazing and your patience is exceptional. Good work.

  • @marcusherold8356
    @marcusherold8356 Рік тому +3

    Perhaps changing the incidence on the wings could help? Also I think you're right that lighter (and maybe stiffer) wings would be necessary.

  • @hschokker86
    @hschokker86 Рік тому +3

    Awesome idea and nice to see how far you already got with this. I did laugh a bit at that first design, still surprised the wing itself didnt break even in the second design. I think the wing is deforming from all the upward force it is receiving, you may need a slightly stiffer wing even.
    Edit: ah i’m not the first person who noticed. 😅

  • @overlookedundead8711
    @overlookedundead8711 Рік тому

    Sick! really looking forward to seeing that thing lift in the next video!

  • @isaackay5887
    @isaackay5887 Рік тому

    PART 2 please and thank you!! Great work, man!

  • @hoverparagliding
    @hoverparagliding Рік тому +4

    As a foiler myself all you need to do is move the mast forward which will create more lift. And only a small movement which be very effective. You'll also want to adjust this setting quite a bit so make it adjustable. Great effort by the way, love it 👍

    • @kstorm889
      @kstorm889 Рік тому

      he definitely needs a bigger wing. trust me, mine is small and bigger than his

    • @hoverparagliding
      @hoverparagliding Рік тому

      @@kstorm889 yeah I agree, I'm running a 950cm2 wing on a fairly small board and his looks smaller than than that.

  • @Copeland1211
    @Copeland1211 Рік тому +5

    check the flexibility of the wings, i suspect that they are bending giving you a different lift capacity than what it has been modelled for. Also a taller mast will give you easier lift, så perhaps the wing you have is modelled for no flex and tall mast, so you will need more power through speed to get equivalent lift. you can also make some cutouts at the back of the board reducing the trailing edge and thereby drag. Last thing, you might be able to get it to lift with some "pumping" but then you might just break parts. Great build though! and great storytelling of the challenges!

    • @chanceym6000
      @chanceym6000 Рік тому

      this is probably right to some extent

    • @justavian
      @justavian Рік тому

      Yeah, i second this. The wings seem like they are potentially not strong enough and are not keeping their shape.

  • @justinattwood798
    @justinattwood798 Рік тому

    Brilliant to watch , fantastic progress, it’s going to work keep going 🤙, thanks for posting

  • @P2TE
    @P2TE Рік тому

    So many of these kind of projects on youtube are flexing by making it look easy and like ti worked first time. It's so great to see the iterative process.
    As for what I'd recommend: A bigger front wing will mean more lift, at the cost of a lower top speed. Looks like you're right on the edge of breaking free.

  • @camdynkellett6782
    @camdynkellett6782 Рік тому +3

    Foils are cool, but Efoils are pretty damn sick too! Wish they weren't so top heavy thanks to electronics... someday I'm sure that won't be an issue. Really enjoyed watching you learn haha

  • @ludovicosalvati3655
    @ludovicosalvati3655 Рік тому +3

    the lift coefficient of a profile change if the angle of attack change, but also the drag coefficient increase if you move the center of gravity in the
    back of the board.
    a good way to find the best shape of the profile can be to use standard iso profile ,size the bigger wing to create such a lift taht should bee more or less equal to your body force plus the one of the surfboard itself and then computing the rear wing applying a momentum equilibrium.
    in other words in order to deesign easly the wings the procedure can be:
    1 choose a standard profile for water application (you can find on internet)
    2 consider that the angle of attack is 0
    3 size the main profile to counterbalance the structure and your weight
    4 size the rear profile looking ate the momentum conservation equation (if there is an offset between the center of gravity and the main profile lift force you have to consider it)

  • @peter360adventures9
    @peter360adventures9 Рік тому

    Awesome. Persistent always pays off.

  • @Creative_Electronics
    @Creative_Electronics Рік тому

    Awesone to watch this video Simon! Nice editing as always :)

  • @tong.clement
    @tong.clement Рік тому +3

    I am looking to to build 1 for myself for a scientific experiment soon - just curious, how much did all the material cost you? Thanks so much!

  • @joeledwards6587
    @joeledwards6587 Рік тому +3

    wings definitely need to be stronger, they are likely deforming too much under the water to provide the needed lift, but otherwise this looks great so far, i'm sure there's lots else to do before next video. lol

  • @bobwebber8521
    @bobwebber8521 Рік тому

    Very entertaining video showing warts and all. Know you will keep trying till you get it. Thanks so much.

  • @FinlayShellard
    @FinlayShellard Рік тому +2

    Awesome man, you got some good speed up too! Can't wait to see the next iteration! :)

  • @pixartist8190
    @pixartist8190 Рік тому

    really cool project, please continue that

  • @RealButcher
    @RealButcher Рік тому

    Nice, nice. Good work AND presentation.

  • @spireEngineering6523
    @spireEngineering6523 Рік тому

    I was looking at 3D printed wings for a while and was worried about them breaking. Happy to see it works and now I know I can use a 3D printed one too.

  • @rqrqrqrqrq
    @rqrqrqrqrq Рік тому +1

    Keep it going man! We love your work

  • @bishipc117
    @bishipc117 Рік тому +1

    I love the shed man that looks really cool

  • @fredvizzan2199
    @fredvizzan2199 Рік тому

    amazing project! Well done, tough endurance to make it working !!!

  • @everettw
    @everettw Рік тому +1

    Sick! Great video. Looking forward to the next iteration.

  • @BukkitViper
    @BukkitViper Рік тому

    YES! Been waiting for this video!

  • @mersas23
    @mersas23 Рік тому

    Very nice!👍😁 Great job and video!

  • @GregBabineau
    @GregBabineau Рік тому

    Your editing is fantastic. So much fun to watch and learn.

  • @kariff89
    @kariff89 Рік тому

    You can build anything! Love your vids!

  • @Engineerisaac
    @Engineerisaac Рік тому

    Its fun to watch you grow bud. You have come such a long way.

  • @locke_ytb
    @locke_ytb Рік тому +2

    Love this series and great video editing

  • @Creation-mv2mv
    @Creation-mv2mv Рік тому

    Your videos are always enjoyable to watch

  • @stefanszabo3
    @stefanszabo3 Рік тому

    Very nice project !!

  • @Moefongoe
    @Moefongoe Рік тому

    Looks like a fun project.

  • @seankelly5318
    @seankelly5318 Рік тому

    You just earned another long over due sub. Good luck with your projects bro.

  • @matthwy1
    @matthwy1 Рік тому

    Great build! Way to persevere. One thing which you might know, is that adding extra wall thickness when slicing has a much larger effect on strength and stiffness of 3D printed parts vs adding infill. It's why hollow structures can be very strong while reducing weight. Love what you are doing. I watch it with my kids. Best regards.

  • @scootergem
    @scootergem Рік тому

    I've really got to admire your persistence and your dedication and getting the job done and how quickly you can change your wetsuit laughing good job good job great video it works need done on the design but you know that kudos

  • @cyberphox1
    @cyberphox1 Рік тому

    Awesome video!

  • @psix26
    @psix26 Рік тому

    great job as usually.

  • @bergfald
    @bergfald Рік тому

    Very nice design!

  • @HavocStrife
    @HavocStrife Рік тому

    I love when these videos come out

  • @arentgrimmius282
    @arentgrimmius282 Рік тому

    Its such a joy to watch you and your great designs

  • @MattBaker1965
    @MattBaker1965 Рік тому

    Nice work man. It will fly next time and your Cool Score will go off the chart :)

  • @fuba44
    @fuba44 Рік тому

    You make the best videos, thank you.

  • @fast-yi9js
    @fast-yi9js Рік тому

    the editing was fire in thus one!

  • @qwekwe
    @qwekwe Рік тому

    Awesome! Keep going🔥🔥🔥

  • @Gosuminer
    @Gosuminer Рік тому

    I'm not smart enough for any helpful suggestions but I really do like this project. Good luck with the next iteration.

  • @MyWorldAsDylan
    @MyWorldAsDylan Рік тому

    Awesome!!! Can't wait for the next one and you making it hydro plane 🔥🔥🙌🤙

  • @lachyborne4684
    @lachyborne4684 Рік тому

    A couple other comments point to the biggest issue with your wing and not generating enough lift. In layman's terms, with a higher aspect wing (wider in width and narrower in height), more speed is required to generate equal lift, than that of a stubbier style wing. When you pick up speed you can clearly see the board trying hard, but there is just not enough surface area to make it for the max speed you can get up to. When you go to a higher aspect wing, you will increase your drag significantly, but the trade off is you will able to be get the board up an foiling!
    Foiling SUP downwind setups which are popular would be a solid place to start given the length and weight of your board, or some of the larger efoils, like getfoil! Great video as always my man!

  • @AlliedAirsoft
    @AlliedAirsoft Рік тому

    Looking forward to seeing the working product.

  • @evile4202
    @evile4202 Рік тому

    Your videos are just great!!!

  • @KrankProduction
    @KrankProduction Рік тому

    Could watch this all day.

  • @wizic1149
    @wizic1149 Рік тому

    awesome project, really liked the video! Keep going :)

  • @matoflynn
    @matoflynn Рік тому

    You make the coolest things!

  • @ericensley2427
    @ericensley2427 Рік тому

    Awesome job, I love seeing the failurs and then success

  • @donodono2287
    @donodono2287 Рік тому

    Impressive and inspiring! Keep on trying!

  • @flitchi.
    @flitchi. Рік тому

    Can't wait to watch your next Video !!!

  • @hungryhungryhummer
    @hungryhungryhummer Рік тому

    I love this. I never thought of using Fiberglass on 3d prints.

  • @hansemilhiorth3243
    @hansemilhiorth3243 Рік тому

    Nice Job!

  • @dino4281
    @dino4281 Рік тому

    Wow big Love to your work ❤

  • @acefreaky2988
    @acefreaky2988 10 місяців тому

    Honest constructing....top man.

  • @werm88
    @werm88 10 місяців тому

    Honestly great that you were able to go that fast. Bigger wing and I bet it will rise

  • @BasinBjorn
    @BasinBjorn Рік тому

    Så häftigt! Hoppas du får upp den i luften!

  • @Rouverius
    @Rouverius Рік тому

    What an epic adventure! Honestly, I call this one a win

  • @Hysterically-Inaccurate
    @Hysterically-Inaccurate Рік тому

    Great video as always, Simon - you are a legend. As for those board, I guess maybe give it pitch control on the wings? I think that's what the sailing boat things have to account for different wind speeds. Good luck!

  • @dronepilot260rc
    @dronepilot260rc Рік тому

    Glad I stumbled on this channel! Super interesting 🎉