Can we name these players who played for their Home Town Teams ONLY by their stats?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- RefGuess is back! In this season, a select few Jomboy Media office members compete to gain points by guessing players based only on their Baseball Reference stat page. Each one guessed correctly is worth one point. If the player guesses all three correctly they advance to the trivia round. Guessing the trivia question correctly is worth two points for a grand total of five possible points per episode. The most points at the end of the season wins bragging rights and a The RefGuess Trophy.
This week's theme: Home Town Players
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Jake should be credited with 3 points in the tiebreaker. Gehrig was born and raised in Manhattan before playing with the Yankees for his entire career.
Giants were inManhattan at the time though
I was also thinking Phil Rizzuto and Whitey Ford because they were also born and raised in New York City, although not the Bronx.
@@mse326 Manhattan and the Bronx are in the same city
@@voncornhole Don't tell New Yorkers that though.
@voncornhole But, for the purposes of baseball, every borough except for Staten Island had its own team at some point, so you have to be more specific than just "New York."
Lou Gehrig is from New York, New York. Whoever said him is the winner! Also, put the full statline in. It's so confusing if you cut some of them out!
Hard agree
yea how would he not count but Jeter would being born in NJ and growing up in Michigan
Super weird trivia round. Tony Gwynn was born in LA and raised in Long Beach which is solidly Dodgers/Angels territory. Jake also guessed Lou Gehrig who was born and raised in New York City. Rizzuto is also a tricky one since he was born in Brooklyn, but still grew up in the NYC metro area. Whitey Ford was born and raised in NYC and grew up a few miles from Yankee Stadium. Don Drysdale is from Van Nuys which is a suburb of LA. Koufax was born and raised in Brooklyn, and started with the Brooklyn Dodgers and moved with them to LA. Bill Mazeroski is also tricky because he is from Wheeling, West Virginia, but the closest team to him by far was the Pirates.
While you're correct about the other omissions, Ford and Drysdale would be ineligible since they were pitchers and it asked for position players.
Jeter is from New Jersey and moved to Michigan at age 4…that is realllllyyyy stretching it
Yeah what, thought the same thing. Doesn’t count whatsoever
So he was born in NJ, well within the NYC metro area, closer than some people from fuckin' Long Island. Shit, it's about the same distance to Yonkers. You saying people from Yonkers wouldn't consider the Yankees or Mets their hometown teams?
Get real.
@@ObscuraDeCapraso if yonkers hometown teams are mets/yankees by your logic, who's to say that jeters hometown team isn't the Mets and not the Yankees?
@@hildenbrandt21 They literally both are. Like.. how the hell hard is this to understand?
@@ObscuraDeCapra so he has two hometown teams? Lmao yeah im sure he was a fan of both. Bc everyone from LA, Chicago, and NYC are fans of both.
Chipper Jones grew up in Braves territory. He was playing professionally before there were Florida teams. If Jeter, who spent most of his childhood in Michigan, counts for the Yankees, Chipper has to count for the Braves.
It's 421 miles from Chipper's hometown of DeLand, FL to Atlanta.
It's 27.6 miles from where Jeter was born (Pequannock Township, NJ) to NYC.
Not even remotely comparable.
Where was he born? Jeter was not born in Michegan.
@@alexisborden3191 In Jersey and spent the school year in Kalamazoo starting at 4 until he graduated. Chipper grew up in Florida when the only baseball team within 800 miles of him was the Atlanta Braves. And Chipper spent his entire childhood in Florida before signing with the Braves and playing in their farm system. Not saying Jeter doesn’t count, I’m saying Chipper has a stronger case to count.
@@pathindsley Jeter's hometown = Jersey, Chipper's hometown = Florida. No you are insane, people live in Jersey and work in New York, they're the same city if you consider Brooklyn and Manhattan and Bronx the same city. Its not who played for the closest team to their hometown, its who played for their hometown team, Chipper is quite literally 800 miles off that.
@@alexisborden3191jersey is 8000sq mi, Florida is 65,000. Im not saying chipper should count, just saying 420 miles seems more reasonable. When you account for Jersey being the 46th largest state.
Koufax grew up in Brooklyn and made his debut with the Brooklyn Dodgers. He absolutely should have counted.
Position players
Sandy Koufax noted position player.
@@pwnmasteh how so?
@@VianoMusicAcademyI was being sarcastic
Ugh I hate to be that guy but Lou Gehrig WAS born in New York City...
over jeter as well
@@jeaniquetrim Don't think Jeter is a BS pick at all, actually. His family is from NJ and spent his summers in Jersey. That's how he became a Yanks fan as a child. It's a main part of his lore as a Yankees legend.
Phil Rizzuto is from the Boroughs as well
Came here to say it. Born and raised in NYC, played his entire career with the Yankees, and HoF. It was the first name I thought of.
Whitey Ford
Joez has the same reaction to every player on ref guess, no matter the difficulty. It could be Babe Ruth, from the early 20th century, with an added fill-in-the blank hint of "The curse of the B _ m__no," and he'd be like "Arrrgh! I know him, but I can't think of his name!!!"
I am both confused how nobody guessed Tony Gwynn and also how he was a correct answer since he was born and raised in LA.
I guess cause he went to SDSU?
But Tony Gwynn was born and raised in Los Angeles.
Came here to say that, just another example of San Diego getting eclipsed into subtle obscurity by LA/Orange County
Same. I love Mr. Padre met him have a signed ball from him, however not from San Diego. Sorry Jolly, LFGSD!
Even said he grew up going to Dodgers games, think his favorite player growing up was a Dodger so can’t even say they are counting him since like Jeter he was born close enough and was a fan of the team he ended up playing for.
@@shanesterMUD Actually, this would be the opposite, considering they’re being given credit for someone who wasn’t even from there.
@@shanesterMUDEast coasters are clueless when it comes to West Coast geography, unfortunately. (and vice versa, to be fair)
Jolly, where do you get your trivia answers? You had a nightmare on the jenga one and this episode you left out Lou Gehrig. (Not sure if there are others lurking)
So Tony Gwynn who grew up in LA, and jeter who left New Jersey at 4 count? But chipper who’s closest team was the Braves doesn’t?
Gwynn or Jeter shouldn't even count.
If you rewatched a certain Jolly Olive video on the 2011 Rays in the last week, or you watch the Rays local broadcast, that medium is super easy
you can just tell by the editing that Jolly gives hints to some of the players like a sly nod or he makes a face when someone asks a question... lol
Koufax started with the Dodgers when they were in Brooklyn, where he was born
Sandy Koufax noted position player.
damn i struggled so hard with matt joyce but got glen perkins immediately
Same! Knew it right away
would b cool if yall had a timer start at 0 for each person so we can get a better look at how long it took them to get it right
Should have added a start year because there's more than five. Charlie Gehringer with Detroit Tigers would've been correct.
How is Manhattan-native Lou Gehrig not correct while Jersey-born and Michigan-raised Jeter is?
I'm going to guess because he would have been considered Polo Grounds and the Giants his home team. But that's silly to me if you're counting Jeter and Gwynn, I mean come on.
Love Tony Gwynn. Represents San Diego to a T, and will always be beloved in all of San Diego. But alas, he is adopted from Long Beach. That one doesn’t count, as much as San Diegans want it to
Gehrig fits the trivia
Much better than Gwynn and Jeter did.
Yea that was the first name I came up with.
Jolly clearly is the first to wake up at 5:30am to record these videos cause DAMN he ain’t jolly af 😂
Derek Jeter...C'mon. He might have been a Yankee fan... definitely not a hometown guy
Chipper Jones was born and raised in northern Florida which might as well be southern Georgia. The Braves were definitely his local team, not sure how he doesn't fit the criteria.
Especially given that when he was drafted, there were no teams in Florida (Chipper made his MLB debut the same year the Marlins did). It's probably a little bit of a stretch, but there's definitely an argument that Chipper should count.
@@TheDonkeyJote600+ miles from Chipper's hometown to Atlanta. That's not even remotely close to "hometown." Jeter, on the other hand, could have taken an afternoon bus the 25 or so miles to NYC from the town he was born in.
If a baseball player is from San Antonio does that make the Rangers their hometown team? Or the Astros? No. Not even close.
Its hometown players, not players who lived the closest. Jersey is at least the same metro area as new york, Florida is not the same metro area as Atlanta.
No, but the Braves were still the "hometown" team of North Florida at that time.
@@ObscuraDeCapra Mike Zunino was born in Cape Coral,FL (130 miles from Tampa, 150 miles from Miami) went to college in Florida, played for the Rays. Did he play for his home town team, or are the Marlins his home town team, or does it matter when he was born and who he rooted for as a kid?
Sandy Koufax is from Brooklyn and played for the Dodgers while they were still in Brooklyn if Jeter counts that ought to count. Gehrig 100% is also good but people already said that
Sandy Koufax noted position player.
Matt Joyce's ultimate pinch hitter seasons in 2016 and 2019 are insane. .400 OBP over 130+ games and under 300 PAs gives me life
Always a good day when the pain of being an Angels fan gives you a RefGuess answer. Try my best to forget medium playing in Anaheim but he was so underwhelming.
I think Lou Gehrig was a good answer to the trivia question
How is Derek Jeter and Tony Gwynn correct? Tony Gwynn grew up in LA. He went to college in SD. Jeter grew up in Michigan.
Maybe because he was born in NJ? Closeby? IDk. They messed this one up badly.
tony gwynne grew up in Los Angeles. he played for long beach poly in high school and lou Gehrig was a lifetime new yorker wasnt he? losing trust here.
Yup. Gwynn hometown team would've been the Dodgers, not the Padres and Lou was from Manhattan...played his entire career with the Yanks AND in the Hall. Def messed this one up.
Being a rays fan definitely helped me get that Joyce one right away
If you count Jeter for NY I feel like you gotta count Charlie Gehringer (fowlerville MI)
I dunno if you're still taking suggestions, but I think players with MLB fathers or players with MLB sons would be fun themes
could have easily made the topic "in the draft era," since before then it was far easier for teams to sign the local talent.
But still, the Gwynn one is wrong. While he went to San Diego State, that is most definitely not his hometown. He was born in Los Angeles, grew up in Long Beach, California, graduating from high school there and going to Dodgers games. Since when does attending a college make that your hometown?
And Jeter is definitely questionable, since he went to high school in Michigan.
Phil Rizzuto should count as well. If we're counting Jeter born in NJ, Rizzuto from Brooklyn needs to count.
Tony Gwynn was born in LA, played in San Diego. Not a Hometowner
He went to San Diego State and was a community fixture both during and after his career. If they're gonna count Jeter, Tony more than qualifies.
Ummmm. Jeter went to HS in Kalamazoo MI
Bill Mazeroski growing up in Wheeling WV would be considered a hometown hero
Medium and hard definitely should’ve been switched lol
Jake, what was that random Georgia Tech thrown in there? Mixing up Posey and Wieters?
someone pls help, are they being told which team is the players hometown team?? how do they know which one it is? or are they just completely guessing??
Why does Lou Gehrig not count?
Tony Gwynn was DEFINITELY a Los Angeles guy, so his hometown team would have been the Dodgers...NOT the Padres...AND Lou Gehrig was BORN in New York, more specifically MANHATTAN, and played his ENTIRE career with the Yanks. Ya messed up on this one boys.
Phil Rizzuto? Though he may well have rooted for the Dodgers or even the giants, he grew up in NY, played ball with my grandfather, spent his whole career with the Ynakees and is in the hall.
Brooklyn is closer to Yankee Stadium than Pequannock, New Jersey, where Jeter was born.
Jimmy & I both guessing BJ Upton made me feel like I belong
Yes Ref Guess!!!
Bbref says Tony Gwynn was born in Los Angeles...
raised in Long Beach too. Definitely not SD.
Gehrig should have counted. Also- completely random one but still one that should count none the less- charlie gehringer grew up in bloomfield michigan, right outside of detroit where he played his whole 19 year career.
When the Mets win, will they let you out of that echo chamber
Isn’t Jeter from New Jersey?
So Jeter counts but Gehrig doesnt lol
I swear jolly fucks these up on purpose for the engagements
What pittsburgh staff is he talking about during Musgroves years?
I also thought Sean Rodriguez
I'm a huge Max fan
Yall try to get this seen by those JM boys cause I know they got the hookup. Can you talk to your guys over at Draftkings and have them implement a free $5-10 bet when wevgo to sporting events at least the ones that qualify and states that are legal but I think that'd be sick and good for business(partnership opportunities). Since they already know our location, that's proof enough we're at the event. I know yall can get it done. Thanks, and keep up the great work over there. Love watching the vids.
ATL is just as much Chipper's hometown team as Jeter's is NYY. He was from north florida in a time when there were no teams in Florida. Jeter lived in Michigan from age 4 through high school
Jeter technically grew up in Kalamazoo, MI. Sure he was born in New Jersey but I'd argue he DIDN'T play for his hometown team.
Didn't Don Drysdale grow up just outside of LA?
I was gonna say Jackie Robinson, but the Dodgers didn't move to LA until 2 years after his retirement, and apparently he was a Cardinals fan as a kid.
Drysdale and Koufax should have worked though. Drysdale is from Van Nuys, but started with the Brooklyn Dodgers and moved with the team to LA. Koufax is from Brooklyn and did the same as Drysdale.
@@david_donovan Those are pitchers, but the question says position players. But Duke Snider (born and raised in LA area) would have worked, if he didn't have two years with the Mets and Giants at the end of his career.
@@camicawber Good point. Totally forgot the position player thing. Still Rizzuto and Gehrig definitely should have worked then and Gwynn definitely should not have. There is also an interesting argument for Mazeroski being included as well.
You could use sandy koufax for the last question as well. Born in brooklyn and only played for the brooklyn/LA dodgers. I know it's weird because the team moved, but it could work as a bonus point if anyone got it.
position players only.
Glen Perkins was much easier than Matt Joyce lol
"Tried to videotape his dreams so he could watch them in morning"
The hairdryer does not sound like an effective recorder.
I didn’t get Matt Joyce but got Glen Perkins immediately, not even a twins fan lol
First ref guess In which I miss 2 of 3. I’ve missed like 4 total ever before this one.😢
Hold on Jake said Lou Gehrig...ok it seems like others caught that as well.
Jeters hometown team was not the Yankees, he was born in Kalamazoo Michigan
Should just rename this Plouffes places at this point.
Loving how Jolly’s shirt logo is the same color as the green screen lmao
I need BBD, Max, Jake and Dalton all in a video together. A true powerhouse competition
Don't know how I knew it was him but I got medium instantly. Didn't have him as an all-star in my book though
Jeter is from NJ and Michigan, not NYC. My list would be Honus, Lou Gehrig (who definitely is and don’t know why Jolly said no), Mauer, Gwynn, Cal
Larkin is a good one. Still don’t get why Lou didn’t count. Give Jake an extra point - he wins.
Dog… you guys def flipped the medium and hard ones hahaha
Yelled “Musgrove” as soon as I seen the silhouette.
I got Matt Joyce right away. I was pissed when the tigers traded himfor Edwin Jackson, but they somehow turned it into max Scherzer and Austin Jackson so it was ok. Matt Joyce is a crazy medium round guy tho
This trivia round was kinda bull
Got Musgrove from the silhouette.
Love ref guess fellas.
I grew up with the 2010s twins and one of my most vivid memories is going to target field and watching the fire burn on the Jumbotron while Gods gonna cut you down played when glen entered
Would Sandy Koufax count?
Jake associating Buster Posey with Georgia Tech hurt my heart. He's a NOLE!!
Hated on the Tigers player development!!! Matt Joyce
Gehrig and Koufax
He was in the garret cole trade
Shelfy. Joez. Love you guys. But that first one took way too long. C’mon now!!!
Um, Whitey Ford
I was gonna say Larkin should of been the easy round for being a hall of famer only for his home town team but then was glad to be the only one who got him for the trivia
3/3 on Ref Guess, 4/5 on the trivia. Missed the player for the orange team.
Medium harder than hard
Glenn Perkins was fantasy relevant the first few years i played!!! So i got him
This trivia question was iffy af not gonna lie. Idk how nobody got Gwynn though
I have absolutely no idea who pitches for San Diego and I missed the easy lol.
matt joyce!!!!!
Koufax born in Brooklyn and play for Brooklyn and LA dodgers
I don’t understand how that medium was the hardest one ever and I got the hard in 5 seconds.
As a Twins fan that was instant lol
Did you record the ad read in a port a potty?
We need a joe Nathan or Pat Neschek
Screaming Barry Larkin lol
sweet
Love the matt Joyce love!