Nice job Ron. If you go too small on the stopper, you can glue a slip of paper on the edge to tighter it up. Also, I chamfered the corners of the stoppers to allow room for the leather to squeeze in.
Dunno about basswood, but when i cut balsa with my mini-saw i use a bit of solid soap on the blade, it doesn't make the cut perfect but it does reduce the "puffy" edges by quite a bit. Also, i find that using a shorter, straight cut, but wider brush gives soo much more control over the long, narrow types. Especially when applying lacquer, glue or anything that's thick.
So great to hear them speak. Your artistry shows. Can you enlighten us on the 'scale' that's being used? I presume all 'roll' music must adhere to a particular key?
Levi Shores "F" (corresponds to Midi No 53) is the lowest note and "D" is the highest note. This is the Carl Frei 20 Note Scale 440 pitch. I believe it is the Key of "C". Music rolls are ordered specifically as the John Smith 140mm 20 note. For the three lowest notes, the music rolls have larger holes and slightly wider spacing than the remaining 17 holes. None of this makes much difference when building the organ. You make the pipes to the dimensions given and tune them with the electronic meter. I think this is really neat as I do not play any instrument and this thing plays itself. :-)
So what would you recommend as the best material to use for the pipes? I see in other videos you use balsa wood and here you use bass wood. Are they pretty similar in sound quality or is one better than the other?
Balsa is light and good if you are expecting to carry an organ like the Busker. It is also more easily damaged. Basswood is good and I was able to get good quality slabs from National Balsa. Since then I met someone who has built several different organs and now I would use 1/8" Baltic Birch Plywood. The interior of all pipes need to be 100% sealed. The pipes (correctly made) should sound the same regardless of the wood used.
Sirus On the organ plans, the pipes are dimensioned for the “internal” size of the pipes. The dimension “A” is an actual dimension for a wood strip. However, dimension “B” needs to have twice the actual wood thickness used added to it for the correct size wood strip to be cut (B+2W). In the first row the dimensions for the D & C pipes, the actual wood thickness used was 3/32”, which equals 4.76mm. Then, A = 11mm and B+2W = 14.5 + 4.76mm = 19.25mm. At the time when I made the cut list I did not own the Byrnes Table Saw and I was not sure how accurately I could set the saw fence to fractional millimeter cuts so I just indicated a little over 19mm or 19+mm. I was rounding dimensions up and down to nearest 1/2mm. As it turned out I was able to accurately set the Byrnes Table Saw Fence to 1/4mm dimensions using a very good quality millimeter ruler and a magnifying glass and I actually cut the wood strip to 19.25mm. “Actual” should say “Actual B+2W”… but I knew what “Actual” meant. In any case you would need to make your own cut list according to the actual wood thicknesses used for your pipes. Hope that clears that up.
Ronald Walters Sorry, run that past me again! Only kidding, thanks for such a great explanation. A digital vernier would work great on the model making table saw. If you could somehow make a fixed right angled mitre gauge and fix the caliper to it. the depth pin pointing to the fence and not on the fence side of the blade. Should make easy work of zeroing the blade to the fence and tiny adjustments after an initial test cut. Great work. I really enjoy your uploads :D
I am not sure you are using the correct terminology for this organ. The Bellows & Reservoir are covered with lambskin or sheepskin leather. The bellows pump air into the regulator. The regulator controls the air pressure going into the Pressure Box. The pressure box (or air box) contains the perforated music roll being played. The pressure box is made of solid plywood and is not covered with anything. Also, I have not used paper to cover anything.in the organ. Please watch my videos again.Then ask your question again. Thank you for watching.
Sorry Ron, I speak about pipes. To obyain a fine opening for the wind, you glue the front of the pipe with paper or cardboard. I asked what is the width of that to give the slot ?
Oh, that air box. I think you want the thickness of the cardboard gasket or shim.The cardboard spacer is covered in the first 2 minutes of video - Senior 20 Organ (21) Motor Mount & Pipe Configuration Part 2 ua-cam.com/video/8mBa0AzLlOY/v-deo.html Thickness specified in the plans 0.5mm = 0.0197 inch. Closest I could find was from Michaels 0.021inch thichness. Hope you are subscribed. Ron
As always, beautiful craftmanship. This serie is so much interesting to watch, thank you Mr. Walters.
Nice job Ron. If you go too small on the stopper, you can glue a slip of paper on the edge to tighter it up. Also, I chamfered the corners of the stoppers to allow room for the leather to squeeze in.
Amazing! I like the way you take the time to show all the steps. Thanks
Very informative. A really great build series! Many thanks for these videos.
Nice nice work Ron! They sound great!
Dunno about basswood, but when i cut balsa with my mini-saw i use a bit of solid soap on the blade, it doesn't make the cut perfect but it does reduce the "puffy" edges by quite a bit.
Also, i find that using a shorter, straight cut, but wider brush gives soo much more control over the long, narrow types. Especially when applying lacquer, glue or anything that's thick.
Really nice! Its coming together nicely.keep the videos coming,i love these projects!
Awesome work!
So great to hear them speak. Your artistry shows.
Can you enlighten us on the 'scale' that's being used? I presume all 'roll' music must adhere to a particular key?
Levi Shores "F" (corresponds to Midi No 53) is the lowest note and "D" is the highest note. This is the Carl Frei 20 Note Scale 440 pitch. I believe it is the Key of "C". Music rolls are ordered specifically as the John Smith 140mm 20 note. For the three lowest notes, the music rolls have larger holes and slightly wider spacing than the remaining 17 holes. None of this makes much difference when building the organ. You make the pipes to the dimensions given and tune them with the electronic meter. I think this is really neat as I do not play any instrument and this thing plays itself. :-)
Wow great job no dislikes
So what would you recommend as the best material to use for the pipes? I see in other videos you use balsa wood and here you use bass wood. Are they pretty similar in sound quality or is one better than the other?
Balsa is light and good if you are expecting to carry an organ like the Busker. It is also more easily damaged. Basswood is good and I was able to get good quality slabs from National Balsa. Since then I met someone who has built several different organs and now I would use 1/8" Baltic Birch Plywood. The interior of all pipes need to be 100% sealed. The pipes (correctly made) should sound the same regardless of the wood used.
@ 0:33 Under actual, what does 19+ 20+ etc mean??
Great and particular build BTW.
Sirus On the organ plans, the pipes are dimensioned for the
“internal” size of the pipes. The dimension “A” is an actual dimension for a
wood strip. However, dimension “B” needs to have twice the actual wood
thickness used added to it for the correct size wood strip to be cut (B+2W). In
the first row the dimensions for the D & C pipes, the actual wood thickness
used was 3/32”, which equals 4.76mm. Then, A = 11mm and B+2W = 14.5 + 4.76mm =
19.25mm. At the time when I made the cut list I did not own the Byrnes Table
Saw and I was not sure how accurately I could set the saw fence to fractional
millimeter cuts so I just indicated a little over 19mm or 19+mm. I was rounding
dimensions up and down to nearest 1/2mm. As it turned out I was able to
accurately set the Byrnes Table Saw Fence to 1/4mm dimensions using a very good
quality millimeter ruler and a magnifying glass and I actually cut the wood
strip to 19.25mm. “Actual” should say “Actual B+2W”… but I knew what “Actual”
meant. In any case you would need to make your own cut list according to the
actual wood thicknesses used for your pipes. Hope that clears that up.
Ronald Walters
Sorry, run that past me again!
Only kidding, thanks for such a great explanation. A digital vernier would work great on the model making table saw. If you could somehow make a fixed right angled mitre gauge and fix the caliper to it. the depth pin pointing to the fence and not on the fence side of the blade. Should make easy work of zeroing the blade to the fence and tiny adjustments after an initial test cut.
Great work. I really enjoy your uploads :D
When you cover the "air box", which paper do you use Under the cover ? What width for the opening?
I am not sure you are using the correct terminology for this organ. The Bellows & Reservoir are covered with lambskin or sheepskin leather. The bellows pump air into the regulator. The regulator controls the air pressure going into the Pressure Box. The pressure box (or air box) contains the perforated music roll being played. The pressure box is made of solid plywood and is not covered with anything. Also, I have not used paper to cover anything.in the organ. Please watch my videos again.Then ask your question again. Thank you for watching.
Sorry Ron, I speak about pipes. To obyain a fine opening for the wind, you glue the front of the pipe with paper or cardboard. I asked what is the width of that to give the slot ?
Oh, that air box. I think you want the thickness of the cardboard gasket or shim.The cardboard spacer is covered in the first 2 minutes of video - Senior 20 Organ (21) Motor Mount & Pipe Configuration Part 2 ua-cam.com/video/8mBa0AzLlOY/v-deo.html Thickness specified in the plans 0.5mm = 0.0197 inch. Closest I could find was from Michaels 0.021inch thichness. Hope you are subscribed. Ron
OK thanks for this. I didnt remembre this vidéo, seen them a long time ago. I will apply this for my pipes. Thank you.
Hello - do you make pipes for seeburg pianos? thanks
No, sorry. I only make pipes for my own projects.
Can you send me the dimensions? I would like to make this but have no clue how they widths for the pipes have to be.
Sorry... No, they are not mine to give. You would need to order the organ plans.
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I do not give out dimensions because this is not my design. You would need to purchase the plans for the Senior 20 Organ from John Smith.