Zeze needs to interview an Ex police officer, rather than someone still in the industry. They know there are things they can't say as it will jeopardise their position. An Ex officer would be more transparent as they have nothing to lose.
This is exactly what I was going to type. These two officers don't want no problems when they get back to the station. They were probably told to make the Met look good.
Completely agree with you. They had no criticism of the met despite independent reports which openly show systematic racism and failings from top to bottom. Their responses seemed slightly unrealistic.
ngl these convos are too surface level and dont really adress the actual issues with black people and the police. Get akala on the show to explain the historical and systemic relationship between black people and the police
I agree with you. But I feel that Zeze can have her platform, and Akala can have his platform and have his conversations there. Of course people can collaborate. But although Zeze isn't perfect, I admire her effort and she will get better as she continues.
@@Yawdan I agree but you can clearly see that she doesn’t think about these issues that much. At the beginning of the video she backs down from her previous closed mindedness which clearly she’s shows me that she speaks from the heart which is needed, however it’s doesn’t really make for a progressive convo when after each person she talks to has to get her to open her mind. With these issues and during these convos, nothing is accomplished when zeze is closed minded and it’s the job of the guest of the show to change her mind. I hope you get what I mean
@@Chiiief-kt5my I just think zeze needs to go research the topics she talks about instead of having a preconceived opinion about a certain issue and make her guest inform her of things she can just learn with not even a little bit of research
I love this direction Zeze is going in. Hope she can do black nurses next and highlight the issues black nurses face, but due to bullying and institutional racism they fear speaking up. There’s a union for black nurses specifically can’t remember the name.
@@Mel87y Right, lol. I’m a student nurse and the wards I be on are rampant with black and BAME nurses and support workers. But then again, I’m from London which is obvs ethnically diverse. Where are you from?
in 10 years, Harriet Tubman with the little resources she had, freed over 300 slaves. in 14 years, with plenty resources and freedom, you started a book club. Behave yourself.
@@badman_hus she mentioned Harriet Tubman. I’m not the one doing something for my own benefit and trying to disguise it as me doing something for my people. I’m also not the one comparing myself or my actions to Harriet Tubman. She compared, I did too. I’m certain your mother is extremely proud of the extra care you took into typing “you’ve” and “you’re” - I know you’ve seen enough memes to finally learn that but are there not enough teaching you how to spell “because”? Aw.
These two to saying they haven’t experienced any racism in the met i don’t believe that all. Mike from love island used to be a police officer if you listen to his experiences of what he went through will make you sick.
@@kayszworld2576 exactly I guess its hard for them because they are still employed by the met but the Met is still racist in 2020 lets not pretend like they are not.
To be fair, for this interview she did. It was on Instagram (not sure if it was on her other socials) but she definitely had an Instagram story with a question box asking for our input and explained that she’d be interviewing two black police officers x
Bottom ranked officer after 14 years n it took the whole world to nearly stop for you to realise you haven’t made any change In your job & this guy comparing his job to bad boys, but had no answer for the mental health question. Look at the rings around his eyes!!!!
I agree when she said they don't understand our culture. Once apon ah time I was stopped and searched outside my house and I kissed my teeth. Next ting all I know is I'm in cuffs and the po po said kissing my teeth means I cussed his mother.
Nah it's not about culture I dont agree. These white police dont give a damm about our culture they'll still harass you even if you're polite once you fit the profile of a black man you're done. All this we need to educate them what for, funny how we dont need to educate them when they want to eat our food though
SERIOUS props to them for being part of this and making big changes... because they are... and it's not gonna be overnight but this is a positive conversation that we should all be here for and encourage TF
Look at his face!! He even has that typical police defensiveness . You see how its a BLACK WOMEN started the network.again we are the always at the forefront. And black women aint bothered half as much as black men are when it comes to the police. He woulda been happy the way things are. I aint feelin his energy
Was thinking the same thing. Same typical police gang mentality. Loyal to eachother and never want to undermine eachother. Until they start calling eachother out for their wrongs nothing will change
There's still alot more white police officers. White officers get £1.80 an hour more than black and Asian peers. Including benefits and bonuses. March 2019 just 7% of UK officers, or (8,329), identified as black and minority ethnic (BAME) - and that was the highest proportion since records began. Police chiefs admit they have been too slow to boost diversity in the ranks and still have a long way to go, almost 21 years later.. Id love to ask these 2 there take on Stephen Lawrence?
Where did you get that information from? The source would also have to show that a black police officer with the same level of experience and same role as his white counter part is paid less.
He’s really ignoring the fact that he’s even being racially profiled on shift. So how the hell is he going to make a change when he’s being oblivious???
EVERYONE RACIALLY PROFILES. EVEN YOU THINK about everyting you say about white people without even knowing them. SMH shut the fuck up you wannabe victim its getting SO boring now
Not every man and woman can make a real change, but through these type of conversations greater understanding can be achieved. She said and I quote been in the force for "15" years and only in July 2020 is she making an impact through her group. Big up to them be safe have a lovely Christmas everyone.
The impact being made isn't assisting our people at all. So many false puppets with good intentions end up realising that they can't win and help their people whilst on the team with the kkk
I know it’s about police... but as an ex prison officer I have never observed racism towards black prisoners or black officers. I have however observed miscommunication and white people getting offended or assuming a black yout is becoming aggressive when they’re eg just talking loud! When it comes to a promotion I feel like many black officers are either happy where they are: lower grades (and do a looot of overtime ->this what I observed) or they lack confidence? Correct me if I’m wrong ☺️ I don’t know about police. But I do think many white, and non British people should be taught about black culture because it really does cause people to misread situations..
I’m actually interested how the interview happened, the MET would’ve had to 100% authorise this and they would’ve been briefed what they are allowed to discuss I can imagine.
If you have not already watch Small Axe: Red White and Blue - It star John Boyega, true story a man saw his dad treated badly by the police chose to join the police to make a change from the inside.
Definitely urge people to watch that. It's a shame that Leroy Logan's story is one of many yet some Black people still want to join "to make a difference".
Good example it also shows alot of racism in the force so I don't know why these two are not addressing this, other than they can't as they still employed.. In many organisations black people are scared to speak out
I lost faith within the police when I once got disgustingly dragged over whilst running for a bus with my brother & my childhood friend on suspicion of stealing a car 😂... bare in mind we were on foot... wish I was lying. I can laugh about it now but at the time it was the most degrading experience I’ve ever had to this date, respect for what you’re doing & I hope it becomes very effective... but me respecting Malcolm X as much I do I could never ever. Peace n love 🙏🏾
How can my man hesitate when asked if he agrees that there is racial profiling? Huhhhhhhh. Also noted the way how he said 'they' when discussing black people...Quite the disconnect tbh
@@dominicclarke3206 I'm guessing that you've been walking around with your mask on then 👀 being as you still believe that the kkk system will benefit non kkk members 🤦🏿♂️
"To me the job is like Will Smith in Bad Boys. I drive around in cars, I chase people down, i have fun" "I use my skills i'm athletic" What the fuck kind of mentality is that? Scary.
Im surprised this comment ain't the highest. Disturbing mentality. And he looks hella tired, overworked, underpaid and doing menial chasing around like he a movie star smh
When the female officer said "what would you want the MET to look like?", that was the only valid point. They sounded like they were in denial for the most part, especially the male.
You have a point they are supposedly targeting gang members and they are throwing in a black male to go undercover and fit in signifying a Black man is the look they are after . He’s being used
The female officer has a purpose and better intentions. The male officer seems like his just doing a job and is not really there for change. They articulated themselves well the female officer better than the Male. I hope change does come and black men do get treated better in the future.
A needed interview. Respect for those two officers for taking on that role with all the challenges they must face from Black people and within the force. They seem in denial about the amount of racism that happens from the police and within it but can't lie to do that role u must have to build a lot of resilience against racism at all angles and maybe thats their way of dealing with it. Surprised they didn't touch on the crime that happens in our community and how we as a community need to address that instead of leaving it to the police. We need to support the black officers, im sure in reality they have it harder than us. Like ur shows ZeeZee but didn't like that question about the majority of black people not supporting black police officers. Lets continue to educate and unite as a people.
This Don was bullied at school and hates himself for it. Guarantee you. His energy is very very off and he doesn’t care for blackmen like he is wanting you to believe. For him, we are all the same.
After 14yrs ur at the bottom of the rank - that says a lot! As for Dom, the whole look, dreads, etc, is a whole uniform and the decoy. Nice blending in.
🔥 fi dem if they are on the small axe vibe too bro. How you gonna join the kkk and expect change for us. That's just a cop out because their own lives may become easier or so they believe in the same way that someone who dates white people believe that theirs and their kids lives will be easier. When do we do for ourselves?
Big up sister Zeze , this is a brilliant course of direction to take my sis and the potential is HUGE, , it ain’t hard to see what and where this could and SHOULD lead to , I,e nurses, social welfare, psychiatric care and many other nuances that have long needed to be high lighted and there are some issues that straight need to be “grabbed by the scruff of the neck!” Metaphorically speaking of course!
let's not act like an officer being black means he won't profile you. How many times do we (black people) get followed in shops by the black security guard? Hate to say it but there's no solution. As long as there's racism, they'll be racism.
These comments are mad, it seems a lot of people need to educate themselves on police forces such as the metropolitan police. There will never be change if individuals don’t educate themselves as well, by not finding the cause, the errors will only progress and become worse
If we have more black police, we'll start to respect the police more as a community. It's easier to respect an authority that looks like you and had a similar upbringing to you.
No. The issue isn't 'identity politics'. Having Black police officers that mistreat Black people the same way other police officers do *will not* mend the relationship between Black people and the police. There needs to be police reform, in the way they act and how they are held accountable, for the 'relationship' between Black people and the police to mend.
If this statement was entirely true we would have less profiling as it goes both ways. The same authority would then respect the people who are similar to those involved but they STILL do not.... They don’t RESPECT “Black” people. The people that work there need a total reshuffle and reform... they want “black” people then make sure there is 7 out of 10 who are heads. 7 out of 10 in every department. Instead of 45% “black” it should be 70% because the majority rules in everything in life. ATM When I think of “black” police I think of Stephen in Django.
I just want police to act lawful. And Black people need to know our rights. Most change in the government and law has not come from within, but from external forces- civil rights groups, protests, public outrage- so Black people joining the police won't lead to change when they act the same as the racist institution they are joining. I'm not foolish enough to think that *policing* (not police officers, but how they enact their policies such as who they target for stop and searches) will stop being racist. But I just want them to be held accountable for how they police. But it starts with Black people knowing our rights, and learning the law.
facts. More blacks joining the police force won't stop racial profiling. It's too deep rooted. To solve racial profiling, you have to eliminate racism, and that's obviously impossible.
everyone for themselves, these two have mortgages kids, and financial commitments to uphold, they have worked, studied, trained their asses off do you really think they would compromise that for the internet? reality people reality we need more black officers and less "influencers" on social media.
She said 14 years as a PC!!!..... under other circumstances she should've been promoted at least 2 - 3 times by now and she doesn't see anything wrong with that?.....Zeze missed out alot of questions there...
Ms. Millz, Great work on this one. Engaging in difficult and sensitive subjects isn't easy. You've got people thinking. Be proud of your contribution into this matter ✊🏾🙌❤
If you are gonna ask a question, you should know the context of the question you are asking. Millz has no concept or understanding of what 'defund the police entails and therefore should not have asked the question. It looks like neither police officer did either...
I don't like zeze because she won't accept other ideas like in the Loki interview she is trying to get Loski recalled. She asks stupid questions and won't accept other ideas
Zeze you asked where does the distrust between the black community and the police 🚔 come from? the female officer started explaining 🤔 about the bad things happened and when she started the force and what college she when to. She did not answer the question 🙄 she hears things but you are not answering the question my gal 😏 Joy you can't do anything 😂😂😂 they don't mind you having a network of black officers but not to make real change. What is the change they want to make?? All now 10mins in what is she changing WHAT?? she has not said what is happening specifically. Kmt!
There are so many more questions I would've asked...but overall, glad the interview took place. They need to get into primary schools like they used to back in the 80s/90s and encourage students to join if thats the case,instead of profiling the young black boys from early ages.
My man literally said at the start how he doesn’t feel like there’s racial profiling within, to then say later on that he’s been a victim of it WHILST at work? Yoooo!
Watching this reminded me of the series Small Axe: Red, White and Blue that came on TV a few weeks ago. I would recommend you to watch it before you call black police officers "traitors". (It's on BBC iplayer also)
2 sell outs which take no accountability.. once he said he dont think the police mistreat black people i clicked off this video . Also joining a corrupt institution isnt the best way to bring change . Its the best way to conform.
She should have asked them about having targets, the more arrests the further their career goes. They're the only emergency service that have targets lol no wonder police are itching to arrest people for no reason
This isn’t New York City, the metropolitan police don’t give their officers quotas that they must fulfil by the end of the week, month,etc. For normal patrol officers their job isn’t dependent on the number of arrests they make or cautions they give.
That is something that people hear happen in America and assume it must happen here... the style of policing in the two countries is completely different, because our laws are different. We have OUR OWN issues with the police. Do your research into those issues rather than just repeating the things you hear from the States.
@@kemal3599 are you feeling alright you just assumed I heard that from the US a police officer has personally told me this info ur there waffling horse shi, they get promotions based on the number of arrests made and the amount of years you get put away for, they attend sentencing and hope u get more years so they can get better credit when going for the next step up the ladder, thats why they like to arrest people for no reason some of the time, I've seen and experienced this first hand, the more serious the charge the better it is for their career, meaning they increase the severity of the charges brought against you. So next time you pipe up remember, you only know what you "research" mate. I'm speaking from actual experience
@@RB-kx6ww no firstly I thought you meant it in a US style quota format where officers have official targets they must hit. Second, that is not the official criteria for PC to PS promotion, it just isn’t. When you’re charged with something, the police must charge you with something that has enough evidence to go to court. So it’s not just an individual officer dictating what charges you’ll face in court. Yes they can make stuff up but at the end of the day the met will only bring the charges they think are winnable in court to the magistrate. So if an officer just keeps making stuff up, and the things he’s arresting people for are being thrown out in court that doesn’t make them look any better. Last thing I’ll say is more time officers are responding to a situation or they’re assigned a specific operation... so the actual arrests aren’t a testament to their specific contribution.
@@kemal3599 listen anything is winnable in court, they twist shi that much that it paints an average Joe selling pirate dvds to look like Pablo escobar flooding the world with cocaine
Such a great episode! I really liked both of them and understand both sides! They spoke with integrity! The truth is if we want change we need to start with ourselves. As a female I have been stopped 6 times in total, I have been taken to the station twice! But guess what? On all occasions I have cooperated and they do their checks, ask you questions, maybe fine me! 😂 but send you on your way! I think people need to remember that they are doing a job and everything has processes! If you play the game you end up the winner. I actually think it’s a great idea to have more black people serving communities because it will slowly change the whole perspective. Being ignorant doesn’t help or achieve anything. If we don’t want people to be racist we need to start within us and intellectually educate! Well done Zee Zee I also feel grateful you asked a few of my questions xxxx
Zeze needs to interview an Ex police officer, rather than someone still in the industry. They know there are things they can't say as it will jeopardise their position. An Ex officer would be more transparent as they have nothing to lose.
Sincérely Gxld, Realist talk! 💯🎯 You can tell a lot things wasn’t said and acknowledged because of them still being on the force!
This is exactly what I was going to type. These two officers don't want no problems when they get back to the station. They were probably told to make the Met look good.
Right on
Completely agree with you. They had no criticism of the met despite independent reports which openly show systematic racism and failings from top to bottom. Their responses seemed slightly unrealistic.
spot on
ngl these convos are too surface level and dont really adress the actual issues with black people and the police. Get akala on the show to explain the historical and systemic relationship between black people and the police
I agree with you. But I feel that Zeze can have her platform, and Akala can have his platform and have his conversations there. Of course people can collaborate. But although Zeze isn't perfect, I admire her effort and she will get better as she continues.
@Chicken Bone alright mate
@@Yawdan I agree but you can clearly see that she doesn’t think about these issues that much. At the beginning of the video she backs down from her previous closed mindedness which clearly she’s shows me that she speaks from the heart which is needed, however it’s doesn’t really make for a progressive convo when after each person she talks to has to get her to open her mind. With these issues and during these convos, nothing is accomplished when zeze is closed minded and it’s the job of the guest of the show to change her mind. I hope you get what I mean
Even better let akala interview them lol
@@Chiiief-kt5my I just think zeze needs to go research the topics she talks about instead of having a preconceived opinion about a certain issue and make her guest inform her of things she can just learn with not even a little bit of research
Say what you want about Zeze but sis is doing things nobody else is. She’s gonna be a big change for the culture
100%
i keep saying she’s the UK Wendy Williams
@@Lmfao89 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 violations!!!
She dont represent us.. shes white.. i know white girls that are more black than her
Stop kissing arse your fake too
I think Zeze needs to do Midwives next and the discussion around black women being 5x more likely to die in pregnancy childbirth and postnatal period
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Also gynaecological issues and infertility amongst black women
Definitely 👏🏾👏🏾
this is a very big issue 💯
Regardless of colour, these two were never gonna come on here and admit to anything that could cost dem der jobs 🤣🤣🤣
Especially when there’s a pandemic going on lol
@@JuniorNGU 🤣
Yes big time
I love this direction Zeze is going in. Hope she can do black nurses next and highlight the issues black nurses face, but due to bullying and institutional racism they fear speaking up.
There’s a union for black nurses specifically can’t remember the name.
I'd love to hear about that. Im looking to study Nursing next year so this would be highly beneficial ☺️
Im here for this one as a black nurse myself!
I’ve never ANY blk nurse to b bullied I’ve worked in the nhs for years 😄🤣😄😄😄 my whole ward is run by blk nurses are u ok
@@Mel87y depends on your demographic I’m a nurse and this is not my experience
@@Mel87y Right, lol. I’m a student nurse and the wards I be on are rampant with black and BAME nurses and support workers. But then again, I’m from London which is obvs ethnically diverse. Where are you from?
We need to be comfortable having uncomfortable conversations like this.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE
We dont talk to paedophile protectors..
We dont talks to pigs...
Theyre tools
14 years at the bottom rank.... does that not tell her something?
that they're shit at there jobs?
She became police to help black people lol bullshit.
Dnt bvv be rude like u weren’t fartng on mandem lap
Loooooool
thats not how promotion works in the police, lots of people dont go for promotion
N She’s giving me Denise from Eastenders vibes.
😂
I’m dead 😂
💯 😂😂🤣😂
Man said Denise you know....
😆😆😆
As an officer himself he's been racially profiled and he doesn't see it as a problem/ doesn't think there's institutional racism....he's lost in stew.
in 10 years, Harriet Tubman with the little resources she had, freed over 300 slaves. in 14 years, with plenty resources and freedom, you started a book club. Behave yourself.
😂😂😂
and youve done fuck all 🤣🤣 hope you’re proud of yourself cus ur marj deffo aint
@@badman_hus she mentioned Harriet Tubman. I’m not the one doing something for my own benefit and trying to disguise it as me doing something for my people. I’m also not the one comparing myself or my actions to Harriet Tubman. She compared, I did too. I’m certain your mother is extremely proud of the extra care you took into typing “you’ve” and “you’re” - I know you’ve seen enough memes to finally learn that but are there not enough teaching you how to spell “because”? Aw.
@@heyitsreemem3334 what minute did she mention Harriet Tubman?
😂😂😂
These two to saying they haven’t experienced any racism in the met i don’t believe that all.
Mike from love island used to be a police officer if you listen to his experiences of what he went through will make you sick.
I'm not even from London and even I've seen racism from the met police
They still work for the Met. Remember their co workers support is life or death for them.
People see what they want to when it’s all said and done!
My own white friend left the police force because of the racism towards her fellow black colleagues. So I don’t know for these two boy 🤷🏾♀️
@@kayszworld2576 exactly I guess its hard for them because they are still employed by the met but the Met is still racist in 2020 lets not pretend like they are not.
Can we submit questions? Could be a good way to interact with the fans...
I agree
Yhhhh she should definitely make people aware of upcoming interviews and allow them to submit questions.
To be fair, for this interview she did. It was on Instagram (not sure if it was on her other socials) but she definitely had an Instagram story with a question box asking for our input and explained that she’d be interviewing two black police officers x
Bottom ranked officer after 14 years n it took the whole world to nearly stop for you to realise you haven’t made any change In your job & this guy comparing his job to bad boys, but had no answer for the mental health question. Look at the rings around his eyes!!!!
HAHAHAHAAHAAA so trueee
Wow... I felt a burn for her reading that!
I hope they see this comment 💯
this comment should be pinned
donny said it's "fun" & he "gets to chase people" smh. This is like a game for him.
he was really trying his best to defend the police when he knows damn well what goes on
Doesn't want to lose his job 🤦🏽♀️
@@ReneeLoves for sure 🤦🏽♂️
Tell me what goes on then
@James Carter James why? The only reason I wouldn’t want to join the police is “the Steven lawrence murder”, that told me all I needed to know.
This is a good start to a conversation that’s needed to be had ✊🏿
This guy is lost. He wont have a bad word said against the police even if there are facts, figures and personal experience to back it up.
He'd lose his job if he said anything too wayward
Didnt want his ass lit up by the hanks at work!
He just spoke facts don’t know why everyone is so pissed at him
He ain’t tryna lose his job 😂
@@prewavy Mum's
After 14 years you’re still at the bottom of the rank ? Some things will never change
I agree when she said they don't understand our culture. Once apon ah time I was stopped and searched outside my house and I kissed my teeth. Next ting all I know is I'm in cuffs and the po po said kissing my teeth means I cussed his mother.
Omg for real 😂😂😂😂wat a joke
Seriously? Sound like a story I've heard before 😂
Nah it's not about culture I dont agree. These white police dont give a damm about our culture they'll still harass you even if you're polite once you fit the profile of a black man you're done. All this we need to educate them what for, funny how we dont need to educate them when they want to eat our food though
I’m sorry I had to 😂
I'm not surprised 😂😂😂
SERIOUS props to them for being part of this and making big changes... because they are... and it's not gonna be overnight but this is a positive conversation that we should all be here for and encourage TF
It’s been an ongoing conversation for generations. Nothing new here.
Look at his face!! He even has that typical police defensiveness . You see how its a BLACK WOMEN started the network.again we are the always at the forefront. And black women aint bothered half as much as black men are when it comes to the police. He woulda been happy the way things are. I aint feelin his energy
Facts I was thinking the same ting. Dosent carry himself in the right manor. Looks hella beatdown
Always at the forefront yet she’s been in the bottom rank for 14 years
Was thinking the same thing. Same typical police gang mentality. Loyal to eachother and never want to undermine eachother. Until they start calling eachother out for their wrongs nothing will change
You right sis
This shows you the police are watching and are in every corner of our community
They will be always watching
They are watching but what are they doing when these people saying join the police
@@Galaxymusic20 what looool
Scary when u think bout it, police the real life boogeyman
There's still alot more white police officers. White officers get £1.80 an hour more than black and Asian peers. Including benefits and bonuses. March 2019 just 7% of UK officers, or (8,329), identified as black and minority ethnic (BAME) - and that was the highest proportion since records began. Police chiefs admit they have been too slow to boost diversity in the ranks and still have a long way to go, almost 21 years later.. Id love to ask these 2 there take on Stephen Lawrence?
That’s disgusting 🤮 we should be paid equally
Could I get a source for that? Specifically the pay disparity for white vs black and asian officers
Bun them all.. i dont care if your black white pink or green.. the moment theyre wearing that uniform theyre oppz
Where did you get that information from?
The source would also have to show that a black police officer with the same level of experience and same role as his white counter part is paid less.
@@Elitematt74 just type in do white officers get paid more? Pdf for all there salaries etc.. & multiple links on this should come up.
This is a very good interview 👏🏾👏🏾
19:55 Camera man felt that line. Looool
😂😂😂
loool
That line hit him like soul food 😂😂
Yes ZeZe! Great interview, great guests! Love do see you doing your thing. This is what we need!
He’s really ignoring the fact that he’s even being racially profiled on shift. So how the hell is he going to make a change when he’s being oblivious???
I literally thought the same damn thing!
He said the same thing happened to his white colleagues though in the same scenario
@James Carter when did I tell anyone how to feel allow is 🤫
EVERYONE RACIALLY PROFILES. EVEN YOU
THINK about everyting you say about white people without even knowing them. SMH shut the fuck up you wannabe victim its getting SO boring now
Not every man and woman can make a real change, but through these type of conversations greater understanding can be achieved. She said and I quote been in the force for "15" years and only in July 2020 is she making an impact through her group. Big up to them be safe have a lovely Christmas everyone.
All I know they only let people of other ethnicity manage and fix things when they mess things up themselves for generations
15 years in the force and wants to make a change now what was she changing for 15 years but the notes in her pocket
The impact being made isn't assisting our people at all. So many false puppets with good intentions end up realising that they can't win and help their people whilst on the team with the kkk
I know it’s about police... but as an ex prison officer I have never observed racism towards black prisoners or black officers. I have however observed miscommunication and white people getting offended or assuming a black yout is becoming aggressive when they’re eg just talking loud! When it comes to a promotion I feel like many black officers are either happy where they are: lower grades (and do a looot of overtime ->this what I observed) or they lack confidence? Correct me if I’m wrong ☺️
I don’t know about police. But I do think many white, and non British people should be taught about black culture because it really does cause people to misread situations..
I’m actually interested how the interview happened, the MET would’ve had to 100% authorise this and they would’ve been briefed what they are allowed to discuss I can imagine.
Or maybe they dnt know
I'm curious too
I feel like him going public is his way of saying man dem wen u see me run inih😂😂
After this interview he will probably get more young people to engage with him, he knows they like people with a bit of fame
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If you have not already watch Small Axe: Red White and Blue - It star John Boyega, true story a man saw his dad treated badly by the police chose to join the police to make a change from the inside.
Definitely urge people to watch that. It's a shame that Leroy Logan's story is one of many yet some Black people still want to join "to make a difference".
I watched it got me very emotional and angry
Good example it also shows alot of racism in the force so I don't know why these two are not addressing this, other than they can't as they still employed.. In many organisations black people are scared to speak out
I lost faith within the police when I once got disgustingly dragged over whilst running for a bus with my brother & my childhood friend on suspicion of stealing a car 😂... bare in mind we were on foot...
wish I was lying. I can laugh about it now but at the time it was the most degrading experience I’ve ever had to this date, respect for what you’re doing & I hope it becomes very effective... but me respecting Malcolm X as much I do I could never ever. Peace n love 🙏🏾
They just got offended when she said the system is corrupt lol clear to see they're corrupt themselves.
When she said that she used to deal with county lines my skin started to shiver
why?
why?
Bmt 🥶
Word 😂😂😂
To me it sounds like they just defending a system that does not care for them.
A system that profiles him even when he's at work 😟. Saying it's not that bad he himself gets profiled when he's working what the heck
How can my man hesitate when asked if he agrees that there is racial profiling? Huhhhhhhh. Also noted the way how he said 'they' when discussing black people...Quite the disconnect tbh
I noticed that smh
On god
Thank you sister
Facts, poor guy doesn't know he's being used for his looks also.
Thanks
I love this interview. Respect what these officers are intending to do for the community 👏
I'm guessing you're quite gullible
@@Astro-X-Ent trust
@@Astro-X-Ent nah she just understands that these black officers are doing hard work to make a change.
@@dominicclarke3206 I'm guessing that you've been walking around with your mask on then 👀 being as you still believe that the kkk system will benefit non kkk members 🤦🏿♂️
We haven’t got to agree with everything said, but this is a conversation worth having! Nice one Zeze!🙌🏾
"To me the job is like Will Smith in Bad Boys. I drive around in cars, I chase people down, i have fun"
"I use my skills i'm athletic"
What the fuck kind of mentality is that? Scary.
Im surprised this comment ain't the highest. Disturbing mentality. And he looks hella tired, overworked, underpaid and doing menial chasing around like he a movie star smh
No offense but the guy in the interview views on racial profiling was off
When the female officer said "what would you want the MET to look like?", that was the only valid point. They sounded like they were in denial for the most part, especially the male.
All serving cops talk in a guarded way to the media, ex-cops are more open, especially if they have a book out.
Poor man! He doesn’t evn understand,that he’s being used for he’s look, not lauded
And he's happy with it. Sad.
He’s been used for his looks and a translater 😂
he needs to wake up fr hes a puppet
And you don't realise how pathetic you sound.....
You have a point they are supposedly targeting gang members and they are throwing in a black male to go undercover and fit in signifying a Black man is the look they are after . He’s being used
Zeze could interview these guys for a week and not get the answers that WE all want!
The female officer has a purpose and better intentions. The male officer seems like his just doing a job and is not really there for change. They articulated themselves well the female officer better than the Male. I hope change does come and black men do get treated better in the future.
Soo true
all I can do is respect your assumptions,
This is genuinely black men and black women in everyday life. Black men are self serving whereas black women see the bigger picture in all aspects
@@bille4750 Not true and is a lazy narrative.
@Sara J alright Sara, you are entitled to your opinion young lady, 4k a day 😂 alright..
*Police are the only ppl* who truly wanted me for who i am 🏃🚓
Loooooooooooool this is the best comment I've seen in 2020
MY RIBS LMAO
I like Zeze shes bringing some good content.
Such a great conversation! It is encouraging to know there are people causing change from within.
Loving ZeZe hair looks beautiful on her
Zeze shines in convos like this
A needed interview. Respect for those two officers for taking on that role with all the challenges they must face from Black people and within the force. They seem in denial about the amount of racism that happens from the police and within it but can't lie to do that role u must have to build a lot of resilience against racism at all angles and maybe thats their way of dealing with it. Surprised they didn't touch on the crime that happens in our community and how we as a community need to address that instead of leaving it to the police. We need to support the black officers, im sure in reality they have it harder than us. Like ur shows ZeeZee but didn't like that question about the majority of black people not supporting black police officers. Lets continue to educate and unite as a people.
This Don was bullied at school and hates himself for it. Guarantee you. His energy is very very off and he doesn’t care for blackmen like he is wanting you to believe. For him, we are all the same.
Yeah I got a negative defensive vibe from him
If he was bullied as a kid I don’t get what’s that got to do with anything
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Stuff like this is just deflection instead of looking at his arguments your doing this rubbish 🤦🏾♂️
@@CP-dr7qy trust me. talking about 'energy'
After 14yrs ur at the bottom of the rank - that says a lot! As for Dom, the whole look, dreads, etc, is a whole uniform and the decoy. Nice blending in.
Not everyone is made for leadership but 14 years later would hope to be more than a PC
Donny looks like he smokes food in his spare time 👀👀
Facts
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Is it illegal in England..its not in the 6ix
Great interview good job
Epic! I have so many words, yet no words! Well done Zee 🖤💯
You made them stumble at the end 👏🏾👏🏾
Best interview they have ever done 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
At 41:31 I locked it off, my man is fully brainwashed I’m so sorry.
Hope they're on a *Small Axe* vibe 🎯 changing things from the inside..if not fire fi dem🔥
🔥 fi dem if they are on the small axe vibe too bro. How you gonna join the kkk and expect change for us. That's just a cop out because their own lives may become easier or so they believe in the same way that someone who dates white people believe that theirs and their kids lives will be easier. When do we do for ourselves?
This fed lady just said the same thing to every question police are never gonna be ghetto friendly end of
its more like living in an abusive relationship where the person that harms you is the person that is suppose to protect you . so your just stuck
The police are not there to help you... it took me a while to figure that out.
If you report a crime you quickly soon become the prime suspect.
It's really not our responsibility to educate others.
Facts, these are grown men and women we're talking about. If they haven't figured out what's wrong with racism fuck them
I agree there is an abundance of information available.
100%
I hate police .. especially black ones that kiss arse turn a blind eye to racism.. n blindly follow what white people tell em
I wana know why zeze left breast keeps tryna get involved in this interview
Pervy vibes bro
Big up sister Zeze , this is a brilliant course of direction to take my sis and the potential is HUGE, , it ain’t hard to see what and where this could and SHOULD lead to , I,e nurses, social welfare, psychiatric care and many other nuances that have long needed to be high lighted and there are some issues that straight need to be “grabbed by the scruff of the neck!” Metaphorically speaking of course!
let's not act like an officer being black means he won't profile you. How many times do we (black people) get followed in shops by the black security guard? Hate to say it but there's no solution. As long as there's racism, they'll be racism.
Hope zeze can do black teachers and the underrepresentation in education
14 years?? What have u done??? Nothing!!! Just became a sheep.. den u set up a network for more sheep..
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@Afro Sammy I hear you but the system hear won’t allow for that
what do you mean? She made a union for black officers to come together & do..........NOTHING. lol
That preached to other fellow “Blacks”
and what are you doing?
These comments are mad, it seems a lot of people need to educate themselves on police forces such as the metropolitan police. There will never be change if individuals don’t educate themselves as well, by not finding the cause, the errors will only progress and become worse
Well said
Exactly
Well done Zeze, this was an amazing interview. Thank you for doing this
After this i rate zeze she did try to pressure them at some point so big up
If we have more black police, we'll start to respect the police more as a community. It's easier to respect an authority that looks like you and had a similar upbringing to you.
If they had a similar upbringing the most likely would be in the police lets be honest
Stop lying😂
No. The issue isn't 'identity politics'. Having Black police officers that mistreat Black people the same way other police officers do *will not* mend the relationship between Black people and the police. There needs to be police reform, in the way they act and how they are held accountable, for the 'relationship' between Black people and the police to mend.
If this statement was entirely true we would have less profiling as it goes both ways. The same authority would then respect the people who are similar to those involved but they STILL do not.... They don’t RESPECT “Black” people. The people that work there need a total reshuffle and reform... they want “black” people then make sure there is 7 out of 10 who are heads. 7 out of 10 in every department. Instead of 45% “black” it should be 70% because the majority rules in everything in life. ATM When I think of “black” police I think of Stephen in Django.
“Will Smith in bad boys” finished me💀💀💀
I just want police to act lawful. And Black people need to know our rights. Most change in the government and law has not come from within, but from external forces- civil rights groups, protests, public outrage- so Black people joining the police won't lead to change when they act the same as the racist institution they are joining.
I'm not foolish enough to think that *policing* (not police officers, but how they enact their policies such as who they target for stop and searches) will stop being racist. But I just want them to be held accountable for how they police. But it starts with Black people knowing our rights, and learning the law.
Look up the word engineered concent. The modern and future world will be built on it.
Sadly
facts. More blacks joining the police force won't stop racial profiling. It's too deep rooted. To solve racial profiling, you have to eliminate racism, and that's obviously impossible.
everyone for themselves, these two have mortgages kids, and financial commitments to uphold, they have worked, studied, trained their asses off do you really think they would compromise that for the internet? reality people reality we need more black officers and less "influencers" on social media.
@@glowwithola5627 Keep doing your thing Ola Loving the nails
THIS GUY IS LOST NOT SURE WHAT HE STANDS FOR...
Living out the bad boys movie
She said 14 years as a PC!!!..... under other circumstances she should've been promoted at least 2 - 3 times by now and she doesn't see anything wrong with that?.....Zeze missed out alot of questions there...
Good point
Do you know how people get promoted in the police?
@@kazn02 yes and it doesn't take upto 14 years to be promoted by one rank!!!
@ortega how do they get promoted?
Absolutely dope episode 💯
Zeze go ride with the police for the day 💯 that’ll be some good content
Ms. Millz, Great work on this one. Engaging in difficult and sensitive subjects isn't easy. You've got people thinking. Be proud of your contribution into this matter ✊🏾🙌❤
If you are gonna ask a question, you should know the context of the question you are asking. Millz has no concept or understanding of what 'defund the police entails and therefore should not have asked the question. It looks like neither police officer did either...
Zeze often does this tho. She'll talk on a topic with no research, knowledge or understanding. This is just a hobby for her
I don't like zeze because she won't accept other ideas like in the Loki interview she is trying to get Loski recalled. She asks stupid questions and won't accept other ideas
Congratulations on an informative show🙌🏾
Zeze needs to start doing the necessary research before the interview 😔
Always let's herself down in that area. More interested in talking smack to her critics down the camera. Do your research gal!!
agree. she's that one loud person in the room but she's got no clue what she talking bout. no journalist skills just chatting bare shxx
Agreed
LOVE Zeze but not knowing what "defund the police" meant was physically painful.
@@okssso she doesn't claim to be a journalist but she did go to drama school. So I guess shes "acting" like a journalist. 😂
Keep the great content coming
Errrm, weren’t expecting this one but yeah im for it
Two absolute outstanding police officers..... Nothing but respect
Zeze you asked where does the distrust between the black community and the police 🚔 come from? the female officer started explaining 🤔 about the bad things happened and when she started the force and what college she when to. She did not answer the question 🙄 she hears things but you are not answering the question my gal 😏 Joy you can't do anything 😂😂😂 they don't mind you having a network of black officers but not to make real change. What is the change they want to make?? All now 10mins in what is she changing WHAT?? she has not said what is happening specifically. Kmt!
Let's all be comfortable with being uncomfortable then we can have real conversations and this is where the learning takes place
There are so many more questions I would've asked...but overall, glad the interview took place. They need to get into primary schools like they used to back in the 80s/90s and encourage students to join if thats the case,instead of profiling the young black boys from early ages.
Really good video - thank you - very needed
My man literally said at the start how he doesn’t feel like there’s racial profiling within, to then say later on that he’s been a victim of it WHILST at work? Yoooo!
Big up for them doing this interview have to make a change!
Watching this reminded me of the series Small Axe: Red, White and Blue that came on TV a few weeks ago. I would recommend you to watch it before you call black police officers "traitors". (It's on BBC iplayer also)
luv zeze for bringing them in stay woke people
2 sell outs which take no accountability.. once he said he dont think the police mistreat black people i clicked off this video . Also joining a corrupt institution isnt the best way to bring change . Its the best way to conform.
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 as they often say, they're the biggest gang in London!
Yes zeze!! Another gud n important convo! Large up!!
She should have asked them about having targets, the more arrests the further their career goes. They're the only emergency service that have targets lol no wonder police are itching to arrest people for no reason
This isn’t New York City, the metropolitan police don’t give their officers quotas that they must fulfil by the end of the week, month,etc. For normal patrol officers their job isn’t dependent on the number of arrests they make or cautions they give.
That is something that people hear happen in America and assume it must happen here... the style of policing in the two countries is completely different, because our laws are different. We have OUR OWN issues with the police.
Do your research into those issues rather than just repeating the things you hear from the States.
@@kemal3599 are you feeling alright you just assumed I heard that from the US a police officer has personally told me this info ur there waffling horse shi, they get promotions based on the number of arrests made and the amount of years you get put away for, they attend sentencing and hope u get more years so they can get better credit when going for the next step up the ladder, thats why they like to arrest people for no reason some of the time, I've seen and experienced this first hand, the more serious the charge the better it is for their career, meaning they increase the severity of the charges brought against you. So next time you pipe up remember, you only know what you "research" mate. I'm speaking from actual experience
@@RB-kx6ww no firstly I thought you meant it in a US style quota format where officers have official targets they must hit. Second, that is not the official criteria for PC to PS promotion, it just isn’t.
When you’re charged with something, the police must charge you with something that has enough evidence to go to court. So it’s not just an individual officer dictating what charges you’ll face in court.
Yes they can make stuff up but at the end of the day the met will only bring the charges they think are winnable in court to the magistrate.
So if an officer just keeps making stuff up, and the things he’s arresting people for are being thrown out in court that doesn’t make them look any better.
Last thing I’ll say is more time officers are responding to a situation or they’re assigned a specific operation... so the actual arrests aren’t a testament to their specific contribution.
@@kemal3599 listen anything is winnable in court, they twist shi that much that it paints an average Joe selling pirate dvds to look like Pablo escobar flooding the world with cocaine
Such a great episode! I really liked both of them and understand both sides! They spoke with integrity! The truth is if we want change we need to start with ourselves. As a female I have been stopped 6 times in total, I have been taken to the station twice! But guess what? On all occasions I have cooperated and they do their checks, ask you questions, maybe fine me! 😂 but send you on your way! I think people need to remember that they are doing a job and everything has processes! If you play the game you end up the winner. I actually think it’s a great idea to have more black people serving communities because it will slowly change the whole perspective. Being ignorant doesn’t help or achieve anything. If we don’t want people to be racist we need to start within us and intellectually educate! Well done Zee Zee I also feel grateful you asked a few of my questions xxxx
Would love to see more guests that are not from London. The black experience is different for a lot of people outside of London, especially up north.
A good interview. Well done Zeze!
My man needed to take the option on the brace long time ago, lord
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