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  • Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake debate over whether or not they believe Mitch Marner has played his last game for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Will Marner waive his NMC to leave?
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  • @JH-jw7pu
    @JH-jw7pu Місяць тому +37

    Teams aren’t willing to pay Marner $11M and Marner isn’t willing to take a salary cut. I think the Leafs have got themselves in a tough situation here

    • @evandymon
      @evandymon Місяць тому +3

      Almost every team in the league has called and asked about a possible deal with mitch...

    • @jabronirigatoni4648
      @jabronirigatoni4648 Місяць тому +4

      Leafs can always retain some salary, and its one year left on a contract. I am a Habs fan and i can tell you for a fact, Marner will garner a lot of interest around the league, possibly even Montreal. I hope not, but, he would help us with his ppg stats.

    • @chadoldman1143
      @chadoldman1143 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jabronirigatoni4648if there's one thing the Habs need, it's more ineffectual weakness.

    • @astrobot3038
      @astrobot3038 Місяць тому +3

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@evandymonI don’t think you’re making the point you want to. If almost every team has asked about him, why is he still in Toronto? Either those teams aren’t offering enough or Marner doesn’t want to leave (which is probably because they aren’t offering enough). Marner doesn’t move without Toronto retaining salary.

    • @johanstinson
      @johanstinson Місяць тому +1

      He's a 100 point player every season
      Toronto will be able to easily trade him

  • @mikerichardson60
    @mikerichardson60 Місяць тому +14

    It's easy to understand why Marner wasn't training all summer. He was still looking for that lost Range Rover.

  • @williambehles7704
    @williambehles7704 Місяць тому +55

    Gentlemen, I'm 70 years old, you are voicing the opinion I've had of the Leafs from the time the big three arrived. They do NOT want it bad enough to pay the price, and I'm not even a Leaf fan. I believe Austin did not for a long time as well, but I think he understands now. I'm from a family with 5 boys who played with the Granatos, Bobby Hulls Kids, Chelios, against Gretsky on traveling teams, I lived in Minnesota 16 years and saw all the kids of that era play thru high school, The Brotens, Ramsey, Herb Brooks Minn teams, all thru the 80 Olympics etc, etc, etc.
    IT comes down to a simple thing, you CANNOT pay guys the huge money till they have proven they will produce when it counts! It was also a foolish, fairytale signing of Tavares when that occured. Crippling mistakes that will haunt. Screw how nice they are, or how much fun they are having. Ya gotta pay the price to win, failing that, you have no chance.

    • @Ripking91
      @Ripking91 Місяць тому +4

      Exactly, the Tavares signing is what led to all the problems. Without Tavares, marner doesn’t demand that money and the team doesn’t artificially take a step forward when they weren’t ready. They could naturally grow but the signing sped up the rebuild. And most likely the other two guys also come in at a discount. Kyle Dubas showed his inexperience but the blame is on Shannahan.

    • @williambehles7704
      @williambehles7704 Місяць тому +6

      @@Ripking91 Yup, and personally I would not want Marner on my team. He's a crybaby, no guts. The only way he could be remotely effective in the playoffs is if he had two big tough wingers to do all the dirty work, as he will not. Keefe likely could not do so, but I would have healthy scatched him. No real loss, let someone who wants to play do so.

    • @bryancurtis24
      @bryancurtis24 Місяць тому

      ​@@williambehles7704 Yup, he's the biggest pussy in the league, short of having a power forward on the wing, and a good 2 way C, one of them being a good shooter. Marner is a playmaker, and nothing more.

    • @stanclare-sh6vi
      @stanclare-sh6vi Місяць тому

      🙏✌️🍻

    • @darkbeast7365
      @darkbeast7365 Місяць тому +1

      Lies

  • @elliotwalton6159
    @elliotwalton6159 Місяць тому +58

    Hockey is a business, not a boys club. They're there to win 16 playoff games. This team can't do that. Being a 'great guy' or 'best pals' in the locker room is secondary to what you do on the ice to win. I know a guy with a Grey Cup ring on his finger. That's what forges your fraternity. Not losing.

    • @paulvaneyk2463
      @paulvaneyk2463 Місяць тому

      Aaaa

    • @Foxentails
      @Foxentails Місяць тому +1

      Ok coach

    • @elliotwalton6159
      @elliotwalton6159 Місяць тому

      @@Foxentails 🤣 Well, I wouldn't be telling them to go out there and have fun.

    • @eyecibus
      @eyecibus Місяць тому

      The Leafs don't have a Kyle Lowry.

  • @jamj2912
    @jamj2912 Місяць тому +25

    I disagree with Adam. At 11 million plus, I don't think teams will be 'Lining up at the door' to sign Mitch. They simply can't afford it. There will be a couple. But that is still a big number. (well, maybe not in Toronto)

    • @benoitrobitaille5235
      @benoitrobitaille5235 Місяць тому +3

      To help put things in perspective, MTL biggest AAV ever was Carey Price’s current contract, MTL one of the biggest club in the NHL never paid over 8 mil for a forward, only paid 9 mil+ to a defenseman once (PK Subban) and is still stuck with the 10.5 of Price despite it’s huge value in LTIR shenanigans.
      Little to no teams will be interested to any contract over 10 without any retention, simply because this is the type of contract that cements a player to a team/city, that AAV number means this is our guy.
      Just think of what had to be done for Karlsson to move from SJ to Pittsburgh ... and it’s resounding success ...

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast Місяць тому +6

      Chicago can afford it, might be worth to have him around Bedard.

    • @ShawnBlaque
      @ShawnBlaque Місяць тому +2

      ​@@benoitrobitaille5235To help put things in an even better perspective Price played his last game 2 years ago. So the one player they decided to give the big AAV to barely played half his contract..
      There's also the fact that no MTL player has scored even 80 points in almost 20 years so who the hell would be getting over 10 mil?
      So no they aren't cap geniuses they just don't have any high enough quality players

    • @dmonsef
      @dmonsef Місяць тому

      In any trade scenario the other team in the trade will have to trade a good contract player back.

    • @benoitrobitaille5235
      @benoitrobitaille5235 Місяць тому +1

      Never claimed that Montreal were geniuses with the cap, in fact i consider them among the worst in that specific department, Gallagher, Anderson, Dvorak and Armia’s current contracts are all easily bottom 20 contracts in the NHL, but Toronto’s obsession with that core 4 of regular season performer gotta end, Tavares, Marner and Nylander aren’t worth 11m+ each on average.
      Hell with Tavares and Marner gone Toronto could easily get 4-5 solid players if not more with the cap raise.

  • @scottmullins87
    @scottmullins87 Місяць тому +11

    Exactly 4 seconds after the Pasternak goal he was done . Shame on the Leafs for giving him franchise money . Shame on Marner for not giving it 100 % .Who would want a guy like this ?

  • @marshallauerback444
    @marshallauerback444 Місяць тому +16

    The ideal agent is Lewis Gross (Nylander's agent), who NEVER negotiated in public, unlike Darren Ferris. Both negotiations for Nylander conducted quietly, and Nylander didn't burn any bridges with the fan base. Steve is right to note the corrosive impact that Ferris's negotiating stance did in terms of affecting his standing with the fan base.

    • @marlew6629
      @marlew6629 5 годин тому

      Michael Nylander pulls the strings when it comes to willie's negotiations.

  • @MakeMeMiko
    @MakeMeMiko Місяць тому +9

    "The Real Estate in his head is dirt cheap". LMFAO!

  • @jwindy69
    @jwindy69 Місяць тому +38

    Marner to me is a the type of player my coach used to call a “busy player”. A busy player is someone who looks like they’re doing a lot to at least contribute on a positive note but they really are really not doing much to help the team at all. I’ve labeled him as a busy player for years, especially in the playoffs. Even looking at the points he had 2/3 were pretty much irrelevant points and besides that he looked irrelevant out there

    • @gregc8483
      @gregc8483 Місяць тому +10

      My team called them "all skate, no shot"
      We didn't want them on our team.

    • @walexander8378
      @walexander8378 Місяць тому +5

      Sorry but there are no irrelevant points. Contributing to a goal or scoring a goal is the name of the game for a forward and he does that. A lot.
      Yall are just looking for a whipping boy because the Leafs are silly

    • @amanasd26
      @amanasd26 Місяць тому +3

      @@walexander8378 yes everyone has lost their minds. Leafs fans would rather have a much worse player who looks like they are doing things and tries hard but has worse results.

    • @roberteinarsson3353
      @roberteinarsson3353 Місяць тому +2

      "Busy player", I like that! Myself I see them as "Alibi players". Players that underperforms and when critizised gets defended, by others, with things like "But he had an assist on the 1-5 goal", "He had a nice hit", "It wasnt his guy" etc.

    • @jwindy69
      @jwindy69 Місяць тому +1

      @@walexander8378 alright so if I score a goal when my team is down 7-1 in the third period, is that not an irrelevant point?

  • @beargrill42
    @beargrill42 Місяць тому +11

    If Mitch Marner and John Tavares were worth their contract the Leafs would be in round 2

    • @toddimus_prime
      @toddimus_prime Місяць тому +1

      If J Woll played in game 7, the Leafs would had been in round 2. In both game 5 and 6, the Leafs were playing like the Stanley Cup competitors threat. You watch game 7, the Leafs didn't have it because they were too busy making sure Samsonov tended the net. If Samsonov's mask wasn't fallen off his head every 10 minutes, it was the fact he kept dropping his goalie stick.

    • @danielkrall6501
      @danielkrall6501 Місяць тому +2

      ​@toddimus_prime Samsonov allowed 1 goal through 60 minutes of play. That's a terrible take. Meanwhile, Marner has 2 goals in his last 16 playoff games, and pajama boy also has 2 goals in his last 16 playoff games. To try to put any of this on Samsonov is beyond laughable.

  • @johndesousa7379
    @johndesousa7379 Місяць тому +8

    Vegas only had 2 players over 9 million when they won the Cup. The team was much better balanced and that is why they won the Cup. 18 good players is better than 4 great players.

  • @IzakD8
    @IzakD8 Місяць тому +5

    3:46 Damn, kudos for just having that knowledge on hand Steve lol, sure enough I looked it up and yeah, he got the third goal of the game to make it 2-1 Leafs in the 2nd period in game 6 against the Bruins in 2018.

    • @trollthedicey
      @trollthedicey Місяць тому

      The only goal I remember Mariners scoring in the playoffs was about 10 seconds into the start of the entire tournament and he was on his belly

  • @SuperheroRockstar
    @SuperheroRockstar Місяць тому +5

    Fun fact. Domi's agent is no longer Ferris. He switched to Judd Moldaver, who is Matthews' agent.
    It may be an added layer on why Domi was never a Leaf until now. Dubas refused to work with Ferris again.

  • @lindsaymccormick63
    @lindsaymccormick63 Місяць тому +9

    Marner to Seattle just for the Marner/Mariners memes ⚾

  • @larryharder4285
    @larryharder4285 Місяць тому +2

    Had to check this out. Marner did score in game 6 of the 2018 quarter series. Don't know if he scored after game 4 of any other series but that is impressive.

  • @anikinkhan
    @anikinkhan 27 днів тому +1

    A good buddy of mine who's always a fantastic fighter. Anytime we got into a scrap he would always pull off something super spectacular. Whether it be jumping off a picnic table or throwing someone on top of a car and jumping on the car.... He says whenever you do something spectacular like that people notice. People tend to talk about the fight and how spectacular it was. I feel Mitch Marner does the same. He does these spectacular moves which warrants the name magic Marner or magic Mitch...... They're such spectacular situations that we talk about it you think is this great player. When you get Max Domi to take over his spot and do it just as well with more grit. That definitely gives you a better perspective on what type of player he actually is.

  • @MojiiOkay
    @MojiiOkay Місяць тому +34

    I think Mitch desperately wants to stay a Leaf, but I would put money on him playing much better in the playoffs on a team with less of a spotlight and a different leadership group around him where he can be guided by experienced veterans without the obligation of being a voice himself.

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 Місяць тому +19

      It's not the spotlight, it's his fear of hard contact that makes him disapear in the playoffs. You can see him move the puck prematurely all over the ice whenever anyone skates in his direction. Unless he grows a pair his playoff disapearing act isn't going anywhere.

    • @stephen686
      @stephen686 Місяць тому +3

      @@craigharrison5406 perfectly said.

    • @giii7599
      @giii7599 Місяць тому

      Nope. Marner is a woke liberal spoiled brat creep.

    • @mikeleblanc8323
      @mikeleblanc8323 Місяць тому +2

      @@craigharrison5406same goes for Matthews and Nylander.

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 Місяць тому +1

      @@mikeleblanc8323 Oh Ok I thought the subject was Mitch Marner though. Oh yup it says Mitch Marner in the title of the video.

  • @agarcia9502
    @agarcia9502 Місяць тому

    You guys are great.

  • @djmips
    @djmips Місяць тому +5

    Hey the Leafs signed him. I blame management.

  • @zascorpusa
    @zascorpusa Місяць тому +3

    If Marner stays in Toronto that means that management really doesn’t care about winning. The loser culture starts with Marner and his play. He was invisible in playoffs and didn’t even backcheck on the series ending goal by Pasta. Dubas gave him way too much $$$ and let’s just trade Marner, Matthews and Reilly to Dubas in Pens

  • @luc0007
    @luc0007 Місяць тому +1

    11:00 I love this version of Dangle. His tone is eerily similar to Kypreos, the mannerisms too.

  • @ShotzRox
    @ShotzRox Місяць тому +4

    San Jose trades the house for Jumbo Joe a good player, Boston rebuilds. Boston has a cup, Jumbo Joe retired with no Stanley Cups. I think history really speaks for itself here. If JT is willing to resign for 3-6 million on a team friendly deal he should stay to help push your guys' depth. I think behind Willy, Matthews and developing a defensive corps and goaltender is Toronto's best bet at this moment in time.

    • @nathanbrisebois8756
      @nathanbrisebois8756 Місяць тому +1

      That trade turned Boston into a competitive team for 20 years and counting

    • @ShotzRox
      @ShotzRox Місяць тому

      @@nathanbrisebois8756 even when Tampa let Marty St. Louis walk. At the time I was upset. But we have two cups thanks to that trade. Captain Cally and a bunch of Rangers on the cusp of winning their first with Hank Lunqdvist. Brought their necessary vets with experience to mold and breed Hedman and Stammer’s into world class champions

  • @joshbehehe
    @joshbehehe Місяць тому +1

    I think there should be a metric stat each year for points in the reg season against teams that make the playoffs THAT year. You could go one step further and make a point system by the playoff seeds being worth more. Point being, it tracks points against the higher level teams not just padding your stats against the bottom feeders of the league.
    If there is one I’ve never seen it

  • @BuckarooBanzai333
    @BuckarooBanzai333 Місяць тому +1

    The epitomy of a Leafs player is the constant media and fans proping them up as stars. They're so blown up, paid way too much, and losing again in the playoffs. The team needs to be blown up, this team has not worked.

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому +4

    Get Nick Robertson to gain 20lbs of muscle this summer... no training camps send him up to Kittimatt as a chokerman....He'll come back a beast!!!!

  • @francescoravenda5070
    @francescoravenda5070 Місяць тому

    Game 1 vs Boston 2019 2 goals that penalty shot I’ll remember forever lol

  • @darrellspurr6030
    @darrellspurr6030 Місяць тому +2

    2:40 you said "He will be asking for a raise" Where does that come from? What if they offer less for more term then the ball is in his court.

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 Місяць тому

      Do you seriously think Marner would take a pay cut???? Haha. No. He won’t.

    • @darrellspurr6030
      @darrellspurr6030 Місяць тому

      @@pajamatime5750 It's amazing how you think I am interested in your intelligent posting ability.

  • @user-xg8ig6zx5r
    @user-xg8ig6zx5r Місяць тому

    I am in search of a Toronto Make Ya Laughs shirts again, I hade one in the 90s , are they still around?

    • @phils6733
      @phils6733 Місяць тому

      You can get T-shirt’s made at any mall, with whatever you want on them…maybe get off your 90’s coach and go outside you troll 😂

  • @koskara1314
    @koskara1314 Місяць тому +2

    Get draft pics and prospects! And cap space! Long term win!!!

  • @serenitynow6513
    @serenitynow6513 Місяць тому +3

    When you think of an entitled spoiled rich kid what do think his name would be? Mitchell…lol. Right?

  • @86daytonaz
    @86daytonaz Місяць тому +3

    YOU ALL MAKE ME LAUGH!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @trevorrochon6983
    @trevorrochon6983 Місяць тому +2

    What’s matthews done ?

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому +3

    Plan B!!!!...send the whole team to Kittimat for the summer....for logging!!!!everybody comes back a beast!!!! BOOOMM!!! have a great summer....cant wait for next year!!!!

  • @brianh9529
    @brianh9529 Місяць тому +18

    How does Tavares catch no heat for this team’s failures?

    • @phils6733
      @phils6733 Місяць тому +4

      His effort was ther…despite he’s slow, he was working I think as hard as he could…you didn’t really see that with Mitch.
      He drove the net in that OT game winner by knies
      Plus everyone new that the last few years of his deal he would be like this.

    • @jamesj6597
      @jamesj6597 Місяць тому +3

      Mocking the elderly is punching down.

    • @JH-jw7pu
      @JH-jw7pu Місяць тому +2

      I think it’s cause a lot of people think he’ll be gone after next year anyway. I would be shocked if he gets a contract extension

    • @SniperPrecision
      @SniperPrecision Місяць тому +2

      Also his great face off percentage for the most part.

    • @p90ischeap81
      @p90ischeap81 Місяць тому +1

      Because expectations are very low for him the last 2 years of his deal. We all knew it would be bad.

  • @toddimus_prime
    @toddimus_prime Місяць тому +1

    I can't wait to hear everyone crying if Mitch Marner does leave for another team. Here's something to think about. Over the past 8 seasons, Marner has lead the team in Assists EVERY season. Marner has lead in points 4/8 seasons. Marner is 10 pts overall short of Matthews overall in the past 8 seasons. Nylander who's played 9 seasons for the leafs has 111 pts less than Marner's 8 seasons. The Leafs would be crazy to let Marner move to another team.

    • @scottdellaire4552
      @scottdellaire4552 29 днів тому

      I agree. They were stupid signing Nylander like they did and should’ve completely broken up the core4 and brought in a goalie….

  • @guynicoletti5811
    @guynicoletti5811 Місяць тому +1

    Ya know, I’m getting fed up. All my social media is exploding with nothing but Marner headlines. It’s frankly getting pathetic. When did Toronto become a hard hat town? I loved Clark, Tie Domi and Roberts but there was always room for Kelly and Keon. Marner is NOT a plugger and to expect him to barrel through opponents is like asking a Cheetah to be a rhino ffs. If the salary structure is out of balance, that’s on management. People are complaining on every word he says. He wants an extension to continue to play in TO. What else do you expect him to say? I, for one would want to get away as far as possible if I were him.

  • @victorbaulk8506
    @victorbaulk8506 Місяць тому +1

    Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the Marner contract make the Hyman resigning impossible. How many Leafs fans would trade Marner for Hyman straight up? Sad we could have had both had Marner not been overpaid.

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 Місяць тому

      Not only the Marner one but, yeah, we could have kept Hyman if they didn’t hand out these ridiculous contracts to everyone!!!

  • @lankancheetah
    @lankancheetah Місяць тому +2

    I’ll eat my shoe on camera if Marner actually gets traded this summer.

  • @seanabbott2667
    @seanabbott2667 Місяць тому +2

    For 10 mil. You better be great 90 percent of the time.not just every now and then.

  • @fightgame321
    @fightgame321 26 днів тому

    for what marner does he's worth 7.5-8m at most. he doesn't lay big daddy hits, he'snot a defensive savage, he doesn't score big goals. he's a set up man which we saw domi last of of season do the same and have great chemistry with matthews and he gets paid 28% of what marner gets paid.

  • @TimeLapsePrints
    @TimeLapsePrints Місяць тому

    "The real estate in his head is dirt cheap." That's gold.

  • @jimarger8533
    @jimarger8533 Місяць тому

    Some contracts work out well for both parties. Some don't.

  • @isaacsalmi427
    @isaacsalmi427 Місяць тому

    I think the question is if or when they trade Mitch, do they want a top notch defenseman or a top notch goalie? Does that make sense? I'm a Devils fan but live in Ontario so I am also invested in everything Leafs. If the Devils were interested, I would stop the talks as soon as Mercer was mentioned. Is Marner the more talented player of the two? Probably. In the playoffs with the way the game changes, could the same statement be true? I don't think so. I'm not saying that's a possible trade partner but just trying to give some context. If they trade Marner, will they get one or multiple valuable assets in return? Of course they will. No one seems to be mentioning what assets they truly desire that they think will get the team over the hump.

  • @ericcoderre9986
    @ericcoderre9986 Місяць тому

    When did dubas say he wanted to trade marner?

  • @BalthazarMyrrh70
    @BalthazarMyrrh70 Місяць тому +1

    Captain invisible in the corner
    To Big Softie back to Wimpy Kid at the line... giveaway...

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому

    Guys .... 4 officials missed the call on the Knies breakaway.....the ref that was right in front of the play called a penalty shot pointing at center ice!!!

  • @vonJaerschky
    @vonJaerschky Місяць тому

    I feel I will have a hard time selling my Marner jersey now.

  • @Alex18NY
    @Alex18NY Місяць тому

    Would you trade Marner to Utah for Crouse and Durzi?
    Or, would you trade him to Vegas for Theodore + ?

  • @briandonovan1381
    @briandonovan1381 25 днів тому

    marner scores a hat rick in the first week of next season and the fans are going crazy. Remember this in October.

  • @Gallywacker
    @Gallywacker Місяць тому +1

    Holy blank how do we rag on marner for producing in regular season and not playoffs.. how about Mathew’s????

  • @jesseyules
    @jesseyules Місяць тому +1

    I bet privately the Core 4 thinks management is nuts. Wonder why depth scoring and toughness has been a problem? Management let Kadri, Hymann and Bunting walk. You'll never get a better deal from trades than you will developing your prospects.

  • @toddimus_prime
    @toddimus_prime Місяць тому

    Wanna talk playoffs.
    2023/24 Playoffs -> Matthews: 1goal, 3 assists = 4pts... Marner: 1goal, 2 assists = 3pts... Nylander: 3 goals, 0 assists = 3pts.
    2022/23 Playoffs -> Marner: 3goals, 11 assists = 14pts... Rielly: 4 goals, 8 assists = 12pts... Matthews: 5 goals, 6 assists = 11pts... Nylander: 4 goals, 6 assists = 10pts.
    2021/22 Playoffs -> Matthews: 4 goals, 5 assists = 9pts... Marner: 2 goals, 6 assists = 8pts... Nylander: 3 goals, 4 assists = 7pts.

  • @jerrydaniel8674
    @jerrydaniel8674 Місяць тому +1

    why the F wasnt Knies used on top PP couldnt even have gave it a shot ???? what was there to loose??? he was arguably thier best player this series and a menace in front and along the boards

  • @Site17
    @Site17 Місяць тому

    Literally watched some old LFRs and Steve says that he has been their best player all playoffs lol

  • @djmips
    @djmips Місяць тому

    16:20 Real Estate in Seattle is cheaper than Toronto. Really? Renting is way more expensive in Seattle. Buying is comparable but not a huge difference.

  • @metalcoretimster
    @metalcoretimster 6 днів тому

    They keep saying it's just business...well why would you expect any player to take a discount...omg.

  • @EweCantHandletheTruth
    @EweCantHandletheTruth Місяць тому +15

    Steve Dangle starting to turn into Sid Seixeiro. It’s just an observation people, don’t shoot the messenger! I like Steve so I hope he heeds this warning. Never go full Sid Seixeiro…..

    • @KyleMacSkill
      @KyleMacSkill Місяць тому +9

      Sid has been correct about the leafs every step of the way

    • @EweCantHandletheTruth
      @EweCantHandletheTruth Місяць тому +2

      @@KyleMacSkill anyone who’s not in the Leafs cult has been correct every step of the way

    • @mojiece2.0
      @mojiece2.0 Місяць тому +1

      ​@KyleMacSkill he's also been wrong about everything else including wrong leaf takes too

    • @KyleMacSkill
      @KyleMacSkill Місяць тому

      @mojiece2.0 other sports and teams maybe can't think of any leafs takes he's been wrong about

    • @mojiece2.0
      @mojiece2.0 Місяць тому

      @@KyleMacSkill you must be new then

  • @tplomonte
    @tplomonte Місяць тому +2

    Has always been a perimeter player! You guys just realized this after 8 years ? I have said this from day one.
    The accidental contact with Jake Muzzin his reaction !
    His tantrum when he felt being screwed over by Lou because of no bonus clauses !
    His lack of going MIA AWOL in the playoffs , not willing to play anything close to being physical.
    Forcing a coach to walk back from a factual comment!
    Throwing another coach under the bus!!
    For Marner to stay he is not taking less than Mathews or Nylander.
    Nylander has changed from playing outside to now driving to the net!!!
    Once again the 3 of you have switched and flipped your stories!
    Two players do not have a game that does not translate in playoff!
    Marner Mathews!!!
    With one more year left on Marners and Travares contracts the possibility of one or both of saying yes to a trade is 35 65 .
    Unless Marner has had enough of what he calls being a scape goat negative media he will stay . But a Big But if it fits Marners he just may fool everyone and gladly leave with no quams!
    Next Morgan Reilly .
    Morgan Rielly time as the longest tenure Maple Leaf is over!
    Needs a change of place!
    Marner has been and is all.about Mitch!!
    Word to the wise , if he does move on Mitch Marner might want to keep his head on a swivel, have eyes in the back of his helmet, and do not go into any corner or get trapped against the boards!
    You thought throw your glove off was something? When you leave Toronto all bets will be off permanently

  • @tylerstanton887
    @tylerstanton887 Місяць тому +1

    Lol'd @ "Utah is a corner?" so ya got at least 1, Steve

  • @flagman7735
    @flagman7735 Місяць тому

    I'm no expert, but I'd like to have him with the habs. We have to much young defensmen, we need more talent up front, and I bet Martin St-Louis could do wonders with him. Don't know if we have the cap space for him though. And I doubt the leafs would just trade Marner to a divisional rival

  • @quezatcol750
    @quezatcol750 Місяць тому +5

    he has most playoff points still of the top 4, best +-, i would like to hear comparisons to other top 4 players.. i think he gots only blamed and others get free pass

    • @DaaaaaBears
      @DaaaaaBears Місяць тому

      It’s not just about points watch the games, he’s a soft turnover machine shoulda been traded years ago. Hard to judge everyone else’s points when half matthews shifts and Pp spent recovering the puck from his turnovers

    • @quezatcol750
      @quezatcol750 Місяць тому

      @@DaaaaaBears almost identical on stats perspective, true im not a leafs fan, and i only sometimes watch leafs games, but i think still he gets all the blame.. why is matthews, nylander so much better? its everyones fault. i think marner is great and i believe if you trade its gonna bite later and hard. you need defence allthough trading marner could maybe fix that.

    • @BalthazarMyrrh70
      @BalthazarMyrrh70 Місяць тому

      I'd build around Nylander and trade anyone else who doesn't take a friendly deal - then load up on local talent boys who want the cup in TO.

  • @coramoor195
    @coramoor195 Місяць тому +1

    always strange how the commentary is that Mitch never performs in the playoffs but he outpoints the golden boy and we just roll with it all across Toronto media. Also great commentary for the playmaker doesn't score. Riveting analysis. For some actual numbers. Matthews scores .65 gpg in the regular season, .41 gpg in the playoffs. Marner .33 gpg in the regular season, .19 gpg in the playoffs. But we're not going to talk about how the best Matthews has ever done in a 7 game series is score 4 goals. Tampa Bay lost in 5 and Stamkos put up 5

    • @Rain-rh6xb
      @Rain-rh6xb Місяць тому

      Watch a game. Marner sucks on the playoffs.

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому +1

    Get rid of all the floaters and get Easton and the other kid that's out west on the team for skill and speed....

  • @walexander8378
    @walexander8378 Місяць тому +1

    Maple Leafs fans gonna be in for a big surprise when they ditch Marner amd still get smacked around in the playoffs. Marner is a point per game + offensive star. And 10 million is a good amount for him. The problem is there are too many players like that on the Leafs. Matthews is just as soft. As is Nylander.

  • @late3619
    @late3619 Місяць тому +1

    It's funny how everyone thinks they know how Mitch feels. Marner may just say f-you and l will walk at the end of next season. WOW ADUM thinks it's happening enough said.

  • @dmonsef
    @dmonsef Місяць тому +5

    Marner is not looked at as a goal scorer. He's a playmaker. Playmakers hold onto the puck more.

    • @shug2795
      @shug2795 Місяць тому +1

      I'm confused. You call Marner a play-maker then say playmakers hold onto the puck more (than Marner I presume)? He is NOT a playmaker come play-offs. He is too scared to play in the play-offs....period.

    • @amanasd26
      @amanasd26 Місяць тому

      @@shug2795 emotional narrative.

  • @eramosat
    @eramosat Місяць тому +2

    Well. Looks like peak Leafs fan delusion mist activated!!! On SDPN!
    Because for Mitch's cap, you could instead have signed, say, according to recent Leaf's attempts, a Klingberg and a Bertuzzi, and a $2M player of your choice. Give or take. Or some similarly useless combination that can be manufactured from real signings that made no difference.
    When fans get involved and upset about the business and salary side of things, their credibility gets assigned a zero.

  • @smaug1234
    @smaug1234 Місяць тому

    Dubas was the guy that gave him the money in the first place, I have no idea why people want to paint him as the smart one. His fingers are all over they way the team is put together. As for Mitch and JT, I think you need to be careful, players around the league watch how a team treats its players. I am not saying one or the other can not be moved, but sitting them in the box when they are healthy with a working contract to force them to move might not fly. With a year left, you might just have to give them the year to prove they are worth money, and then decide after. This is just what happens in Canadian teams, we wonder why we cant have talent, while we chase it out of town on every team.

  • @patrickhamos2987
    @patrickhamos2987 Місяць тому +1

    it doesnt matter if the fans dont want to see marner out there again. He'll be out there, bc this is the plan theyve made and you cant get out of it now. too bad.

  • @BMacN-kw7rn
    @BMacN-kw7rn Місяць тому +1

    In my dreams, the foundation for all leaf fans, I’d love to see a deal worked out with Marner for Byfield in LA. Just a dream I know. lol

    • @waltconklin882
      @waltconklin882 Місяць тому

      Trade him for PLD.

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 Місяць тому +2

      @@waltconklin882I know you’re kidding but if you’re not I’m worried for you!

    • @waltconklin882
      @waltconklin882 Місяць тому

      @@pajamatime5750 Lol, yep, just kidding.

  • @joncakefilm
    @joncakefilm 8 днів тому

    Players are paid for their regular season performance. During the regular season Marner excels. You’re wrong to say Marner is stealing money.

  • @georgebenevides
    @georgebenevides Місяць тому

    Marner will get a lot of interest. Marner plays on the PP, SH and his regular shift. We saw Marner play against Tampa and blocking like 3 or more shots one after the other. Marner's value is certainly there. I can see him do well on another team. We have seen players leave the Leafs and do well elsewhere. Marner is a Professional hockey player. He will waive his NMC and leave on good terms as most players do when they get traded so they don't lose their reputation. I'm surprised Marner's Agent ain't advising him.

  • @larrywilliams3858
    @larrywilliams3858 Місяць тому

    The "core four". Worthless if you care to do anything but play regular season hockey. No heart, no drive, no courage, no nuthin', as they say!!

  • @Jadani-vp1lj
    @Jadani-vp1lj Місяць тому

    One mic is significantly louder than the others. Compression missing.

  • @mikeaesthetic7972
    @mikeaesthetic7972 Місяць тому +1

    Na imagine Mitch as a bruin💀

  • @CS58420
    @CS58420 Місяць тому +1

    How about that albatross Tavares contract???

    • @dkg8985
      @dkg8985 Місяць тому

      The big difference with the Tavares contract is that John won't be wanting a pay raise next summer. They'll be able to re-sign him for around half. It's also a lot harder of a contract to get rid of this off season.

  • @oldhab7890
    @oldhab7890 Місяць тому

    If the Core 4 returns along with Sheldon Keefe I wonder how sdpn will hype the regular season Leafs. You know the team as structured will put up more than 100 points - Matthews will be over 60 goals, Marner will have over 100 points, Nylander with 40 goals and Tavares a solid 90 points.

  • @bluetocop
    @bluetocop Місяць тому +1

    i tell you mitch needs 25 lbs of muscles and a big set of balls

    • @nathanbrisebois8756
      @nathanbrisebois8756 Місяць тому

      He can probably put on the mass, but unfortunately I do not think he can grow the cajones

  • @geeterdun5966
    @geeterdun5966 Місяць тому +4

    What about Mathews? All this complaining about Marner and he has a better points per game career playoffs?

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому

    Charlie McAvoy is not an NHL defenseman...he's from the MMA

  • @chungang7037
    @chungang7037 Місяць тому

    The meltdown in Toronto media is more entertaining than the team itself.

  • @dougmarshall4010
    @dougmarshall4010 21 день тому

    Every player says they love playing for their team. Do they all mean it?

  • @CS58420
    @CS58420 Місяць тому +1

    Darren Farris has a long list of overpaid clients who haven't delivered.

  • @metalcoretimster
    @metalcoretimster 20 днів тому

    You need players like mitch to get you there...and it's management that needs to get this boy help...

  • @themorethemerrier281
    @themorethemerrier281 Місяць тому

    Wow, and you found out just now?

  • @luc0007
    @luc0007 Місяць тому

    14:40 "No interest in the DMs". Corroborating Mirtles story about Marner hiring a private security company to harass media who criticize him

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому

    Next year go with Wall/Hildebeast all the way and make sure you play Reevo every game so he's playoff ready for next year

    • @RobbieG17
      @RobbieG17 Місяць тому

      Woll has played how many games, and has been injured how many times? Biggest thing with goaltending is reliability, and the only one that showed any reliability this year is Jones 😂

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому

    Everybody saying if sammy played like Bob or Vasileski....he can't get over it

  • @user-gx7rr3fl4r
    @user-gx7rr3fl4r Місяць тому +1

    I agree the top 4 did not produce but look at the rest of the roster there were lots of zeros. Robertson 6 games no points -2, Holmberg 7 games no points -3, Jarnkrok 7 games no points -2, Kampf 7 games 1 goal -2. Just saying

    • @shawnpitman876
      @shawnpitman876 Місяць тому +1

      Just saying what? You're saying a whole lot of nothing when trying to compare people who get paid 1/4 of the people we're talking about.

  • @freakyalarm556
    @freakyalarm556 Місяць тому +2

    Marner is not clutch. Gets most of his apples when it does not matter.

  • @applejoosh_
    @applejoosh_ Місяць тому

    Mitch is a fun player and I’ll always have a soft spot for him as a hometown and homegrown kid, but something needs to change and he’s the most obvious asset in the core four to be moved. Auston and Willy are extended and more consistent playoff performers and Johnny will run his contract down before making a decision next summer.
    This team needs to find a dam goalie and a dam top pair dman - we have all been saying this for half a decade if not longer.

  • @Porsche_911_Experience
    @Porsche_911_Experience Місяць тому

    They’re playing for the cup. You play to win the cup. They need to put this in their dressing room cause I think they don’t even realize what they’re playing for other than money for regular season stats

  • @nickcicione8455
    @nickcicione8455 Місяць тому

    Marner's agent is a genius $$, you really think he's gone this summer no way. His agent goes right to the end.

  • @DerekNolan
    @DerekNolan Місяць тому

    Anyway if we beat Bruins...next up Florida then 2 more series........mmmmm
    Thats a lot to ask of this team

  • @mauricerobillard612
    @mauricerobillard612 Місяць тому

    Blame the Leafs giving him that kind of money. Don't blame MM. This coming from a Habs fan

  • @jay-7902
    @jay-7902 Місяць тому

    "it gets said too much"

  • @iandavis594
    @iandavis594 Місяць тому +3

    Chicago’s first round pick straight up sounds good for both teams.

    • @1Four20
      @1Four20 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @tomfilipiak3511
      @tomfilipiak3511 Місяць тому +1

      Keep,that pretty boy out of my home town Chicago,we got Seth Jones contract to deal with,throwing money down the drain,ain’t smart!Dumb moves on both sides of the equation!

  • @gas_man1565
    @gas_man1565 Місяць тому

    dont know who would be a solid fit for the future leaf playoff playstyle. marner has to be told stop doing that wasting time with the puck. he needs to be more offensive minded. he holds onto the puck toooo long!!!

  • @stanclare-sh6vi
    @stanclare-sh6vi Місяць тому

    If he hasn't it will be another losing year , you can't have a leader on a team having no commitment in the playoffs .. I don't mean commitment when the floater gets open and gets a play , I mean commitment to follow a goddamn guy into the zone and make sure he doesn't get the puck 4 a wide open shot .. I mean commitment not to cut the corner and go into the corner and fight for the puck instead of cutting the corner and hope the puck comes open further up the boards avoiding any contact .. I mean commitment to stand and fight with a teammate instead of arguing with the referee while your teammate fights two players 5 ft away .. Ryan O'Reilly last year in the Tampa Bay series if you don't know what I'm talking about .. I've never been more disgusted with a hockey player since Claude Lemieux and to have him on my team absolutely kills me .. I don't even watch hockey anymore although I do follow the statistics and standings .. let me correct that I watch Edmonton once in a while now ..

  • @user-pg5sz2vn1w
    @user-pg5sz2vn1w Місяць тому +1

    honestly i couldn't care less about the leafs thinking they're gonna ship out all these guys on nmc's..
    i just want to know wtf happened to matthews and woll?

    • @DaaaaaBears
      @DaaaaaBears Місяць тому

      Right knee for both, watch Mccavoy take Matthews down game 3, and wolls is even worse trying to save that meaningless 0.1 sec goal game 6. I’d guess MCL sprain or slight tear for 34 and woll most likely way more damage