that's like the best reason to play it! I started playing during Onslaught, but I was six and don't really remember it. Mirrodin I remember though, so I always try to get my janky Mycosynth Lattice, Darksteel forge combo to work. (also I have a Chrome Mox, which dusted in a binder for years because I didn't realize how strong it was..)
At around 16:50 you said altar of dementia's ability in reverse (that it puts cards from the top of your graveyard into your library). Just thought it was funny :p Still a really good video, and I can also confirm that Chris is a very cool guy. Wholesome indeed.
Urza's Armor stops Walking Ballista cold. Each counter removed is 1 source of 1 damage, and Urza's Armor reduces each source of damage by 1. Walking Ballista therefore can't deal damage to you.
Altar of dementia is one of my favorites in Muldrotha for sure. In my head I probably catagorized Bolas Citadel as ramp/win but yeah it is just win. Oh I have felt that burn with Sensei's top all too often. It never finds me lands when I need them, and when I don't, that is all it finds me XD.
LOL I own 12/15 cards mentioned and I still play Grave Titan. Birthing Pod is typically better but if you don't have Green say hello to the new Pyre of Heroes :P
so i once won with phyrexian metamorph while blightsteel was on field because i targeted the hedron archive next to it and found a way to go infinite because i had a mana rock that taps for 2 even-so the infinite combo was not in my hand at the moment i chose what to copy.
Opponents tapped out confidently, EOT at their turn Cyclonic Rift followed by own turn main phrase Tezzeret the Seeker into Winter Orb always won me the game, enjoyable as it is, it raised hatred easily as well XD
I like expedition map, it sounds like the perfect extra land tutor for my decks that suck at mana draw. I enjoy total board wipes and recovery is always hard so cheap tutors are always nice, I also use journey men's kite, travelers amulet, and a few others.
ty for the derevi shout out :3 She's enjoyable but ya, only in certain cases. There's other archetypes that you can enjoy without losing friends. But, sometimes you just want to win.
Saw someone comment their own list on the previous video, so here’s my prediction before seeing the vid (not in any particular order): 1. Bolas’s Citadel 2. Birthing Pod 3. Ashnod’s Altar/Phyrexian Altar 4. Aetherflux Reservoir 5. The Great Henge (might count as ramp though 😬) 6. Skullclamp 7. Sensei’s Divining Top 8. Crucible of Worlds 9. Isochron Scepter (idk how much we’re counting cEDH) 10. Scroll Rack 11. Soul-guide Lantern (knowing you guys 😉) 12. Sword of Feast and Famine 13. Lightning Greaves 14. Winter Orb (I’m sorry) 15. Expedition Map Finding 15 really good non-ramp artifacts was harder than I thought lol Edit: 1 minute in the video and I already realized I totally forgot about artifact creatures. Ah well Edit 2: 10 right! Not bad :)
I would personally have put senseis at #1 over skullclamp. My reasoning would be that the top goes in literally every deck, whereas there are creature lite decks where I think the clamp wouldn't be worth putting in. Love you guys' videos. Keep up the awesome work.
I think the difference here is that while most decks get lots of value from top it’s rarely a critical piece of the deck. Even though skullclamp has fewer decks it fits in the value it brings to those decks is astronomical.
I just built an artifact deck for the first time and I'm only playing three of these, but I think that's plenty for the power level that I usually play at.
Notice that both of the equipment on this list are from the block where equipment debuted. And the swords started there too. And Jitte came out in the very next block. My point is, I'd like Wizards to start taking chances on equipments again. When they're strong, it makes for fun games.
Nice video, but i feel Vedalken Orrery deserved an honorable mention. So much advantage being able to play any nonland spells on each of your opponents turns. Always nice to be able to answer anything your opponents try and pull on you.
Great video as always ya nerds. Also, that Blight steel shout out was bait lmao! No but really I completely disagree on that take. While not definitely doesn't go in any deck, it IS that good in the right deck. Most recent example of where this is good is in Magic, all it needs is haste which isn't too hard. Especially since red is a key artifact color.
My friends and I started a boxing league where we opened packs of Command Legends. I was excited to pull Scroll Rack since it was a card I never owned when I was younger. I put it in every deck variation I built from my card pool. I have yet to draw it in 8 games and I am a sad panda. As an aside, sealed Commander Legends was a blast. We're going to keep adding new packs to the pool over time starting with Kaldheim, then maybe Modern Horizons for that snow theme.
Cloudstone and scroll rack are absolutely broken with the new white blue precon. Being able to fortell the same cards and exile cards from your hand to make those spirit tokens equates in to so much value.
@@NitpickingNerds thankfully I was able to get one months ago for a flicker deck I had brewing, but immediately took the two cards out for the deck. They're definitely game ending if unchecked.
I consider Greaves to be far from an auto-include, but I've recently built Araumi and booy they do some work there! Also Altar of Dementia is a powerhouse for filling up your graveyard basically for free.
And please, folks, remember. If you got targeted with mindslaver, and then your commander gets exiled, the person controlling your turn can choose to let it remain in exile.
I don't see them actually printing a card like that, but a control the game for one turn cycle would fit really well in the Dnd set. Until your next turn, you become the DM. Rocks fall, everyone dies
About the boots without the fur: if I'm scaring my opponent to leave mana open, then I am doing a good job as a control player. They will think the boots are for my commander but there are things more dangerous than him...
Wait .. doesnt the creatures only have haste as long as the equipment is attached? Or are you referring to having lots of creatures with tap abilities?
If going infinite with altar of dementia against eldrazi, couldn't you state that you keep going until by sheer improbability (not impossible) you have the eldrazi as the only card in their library?
I have put Bolas Citadel in pretty much every deck I possibly could have in every format since it released. I have like a 95% win rate with it if the card resolves.
If one were to put Helm of the Host on Phyrexian Metamorph, or Populate or create other token copies of it, would those tokens be able to become copies of other creatures/artifacts? Cause if so, that is absolutely bonkers in utility. God, you could make the token copies enter as copies of Helm of the Host *itself*, and get some expontntial stuff in there
Wow another top15? I HAVE to leave here mine, it was fun with enchantments ;) Non ramp? Ok 1) Top 2) Greaves/Boots 3) Skullclamp 4) Reservoir 5) Great Henge 6) Bolas's Citadel 7) Oblivion Stone 8) Isochron Scepter 9) Helm of the host 10) Panharmonicon 11) Baleful Strix 12) Blightsteel Colossus 13) I never played against Ashnod's Altar/Altar of Dementia combos but i guess it has to be somewhere in the 15, i'm sure i will lose badly to it some day 14) Walking Ballista 15) Painter/Stone combo
Scroll Rack is a bit too high on the list for my taste. I played it in every deck when I started EDH and soon started to remove it except from very specific build. (like you said, decks with lots of shuffling, top deck manipulation required, lots of card draw, etc) But yeah, I do LOVE that card. Don't get me wrong :D
Dramatic scepter is edh because it only costs like 3$ for both cards, oh and it goes infinite with 3 Mana worth of rocks, and is deadly with storm or aetherflux reservoir
I had to play against an infinite timewarp deck once who played Galazeth Prismari and winter orb so he could tap his own orb during his upkeep to let all his lands untap while we only get one. I hate that artifact ever since.
phyrexian mana taught me that paying life to cheat on costs of spells is generally pretty broken. Bolas' Citadel is wizards completely forgetting about one of the worst design mistakes of all time and deciding that it would be fine as long as they made it an oracle effect. So no, i never thought bolas' citadel was meh, i knew it was broken and so should have anyone else whos ever played any black in edh.
[Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal ] + Voltaic Key is so busted to get 2 extra untaps every turn for all your rocks for like 7 mana total for start up, 3 each turn for 2 untaps
Illharg. That feeling you get when you swing The Pig towards a player, then have a Blightsteel come in swinging at the “pillow Fort” player who’s completely unprepared for that? Priceless.
Winter Orb is a TWO mana win condition that immediately works. If it came into play tapped? Okay. If it was 6 mana? Okay. And, what do you need for this win condition to work? To play mana rocks? Also, Orb can go online as early as turn TWO, 1-Sol Ring 2-Orb+any 2 mana rock, congrats gg ez no reee. Skull clamp and Orb are on my must-ban / table-ban list.
Not usually a fan of bans especially when it comes to commanders, but I would ban winter orb before skull clap. It seems like it would solve alot of problems if orb got banned. 🙂
This video made me appreciate the design of so many cool artifacts. Many of them are fairly simple, like alter of dementia but are both enablers and finishers in fair and competitive decks alike.
Whats wrong with Blightsteel Colossus? If I can cheat this out into play, how is that a trap? Yes I'm putting a bullseye on me but I'm also willing to use this to win.
Joe "This card is completely insane" Cherries
That should be his new name
Joe “buuuuut” Cherries
Blightsteel colossus is big and shiny, and is one of my first big shiny creatures i owned, so i will always like it.
that's like the best reason to play it!
I started playing during Onslaught, but I was six and don't really remember it. Mirrodin I remember though, so I always try to get my janky Mycosynth Lattice, Darksteel forge combo to work. (also I have a Chrome Mox, which dusted in a binder for years because I didn't realize how strong it was..)
platinum emperion is bigger and shinier (also worse)
@@demilembias2527 it is certainly not at least one of those things. 11/11 is bigger than 8/8, surely? Shininess can be debated.
There is one deck where it becomes a good card, ninjas
@@SickOfItAll1988 v up
Love it when you guys go off topic for like a minute and a half talking about cards you just made up, keep up the good content guys!
how many six drops are auto-includes?
me, a man of culture: grave titan
Hahahahahaha
At around 16:50 you said altar of dementia's ability in reverse (that it puts cards from the top of your graveyard into your library). Just thought it was funny :p
Still a really good video, and I can also confirm that Chris is a very cool guy. Wholesome indeed.
That's classic
I’d like a best ramping permanent video
Ooo that's two!
smothering urza's dockside sol with some moxes and lotuses for his nyx crypt/tomb and monolith vault. done.
Probably:
Crypt
Ring
Mox opal
Chrome mox
Mox amber
Smothering tithe
Elves
Talismans
Signets
In a rough order
Urza's Armor stops Walking Ballista cold. Each counter removed is 1 source of 1 damage, and Urza's Armor reduces each source of damage by 1. Walking Ballista therefore can't deal damage to you.
Altar of dementia is one of my favorites in Muldrotha for sure. In my head I probably catagorized Bolas Citadel as ramp/win but yeah it is just win. Oh I have felt that burn with Sensei's top all too often. It never finds me lands when I need them, and when I don't, that is all it finds me XD.
Sensei’s Divining Top can be a fickle mistress 😂
LOL I own 12/15 cards mentioned and I still play Grave Titan.
Birthing Pod is typically better but if you don't have Green say hello to the new Pyre of Heroes :P
I mean, Pyre only works effectively in a Tribal deck...
so i once won with phyrexian metamorph while blightsteel was on field because i targeted the hedron archive next to it and found a way to go infinite because i had a mana rock that taps for 2 even-so the infinite combo was not in my hand at the moment i chose what to copy.
Absolutely amazing story!
Thanks for the call-out. 😂 I’m pretty sure (though I could be imagining things) I’m the one who mentioned Scroll Rack with Land Tax.
Opponents tapped out confidently, EOT at their turn Cyclonic Rift followed by own turn main phrase Tezzeret the Seeker into Winter Orb always won me the game, enjoyable as it is, it raised hatred easily as well XD
Ah yes the return of bolas's brick. Very good. 👍.
It's going to be top 10 in basically every category it can fit into lol
@@NitpickingNerds nice
Need a video on top 15 reasons why not to play the Grave Titan
We could never whittle it down to just 15
Top 100???
I like expedition map, it sounds like the perfect extra land tutor for my decks that suck at mana draw. I enjoy total board wipes and recovery is always hard so cheap tutors are always nice, I also use journey men's kite, travelers amulet, and a few others.
ty for the derevi shout out :3 She's enjoyable but ya, only in certain cases. There's other archetypes that you can enjoy without losing friends. But, sometimes you just want to win.
Saw someone comment their own list on the previous video, so here’s my prediction before seeing the vid (not in any particular order):
1. Bolas’s Citadel
2. Birthing Pod
3. Ashnod’s Altar/Phyrexian Altar
4. Aetherflux Reservoir
5. The Great Henge (might count as ramp though 😬)
6. Skullclamp
7. Sensei’s Divining Top
8. Crucible of Worlds
9. Isochron Scepter (idk how much we’re counting cEDH)
10. Scroll Rack
11. Soul-guide Lantern (knowing you guys 😉)
12. Sword of Feast and Famine
13. Lightning Greaves
14. Winter Orb (I’m sorry)
15. Expedition Map
Finding 15 really good non-ramp artifacts was harder than I thought lol
Edit: 1 minute in the video and I already realized I totally forgot about artifact creatures. Ah well
Edit 2: 10 right! Not bad :)
I would personally have put senseis at #1 over skullclamp. My reasoning would be that the top goes in literally every deck, whereas there are creature lite decks where I think the clamp wouldn't be worth putting in.
Love you guys' videos. Keep up the awesome work.
I think the difference here is that while most decks get lots of value from top it’s rarely a critical piece of the deck. Even though skullclamp has fewer decks it fits in the value it brings to those decks is astronomical.
I just built an artifact deck for the first time and I'm only playing three of these, but I think that's plenty for the power level that I usually play at.
Notice that both of the equipment on this list are from the block where equipment debuted. And the swords started there too. And Jitte came out in the very next block. My point is, I'd like Wizards to start taking chances on equipments again. When they're strong, it makes for fun games.
You guys hate more Blightsteel Colossus or Grave Titan?
both!
For a minute there I thought You had forgotten about My boy Bolas' Citadel. But I never should have doubted the nitpicking nerds
It's just too ridiculous
Nice video, but i feel Vedalken Orrery deserved an honorable mention. So much advantage being able to play any nonland spells on each of your opponents turns. Always nice to be able to answer anything your opponents try and pull on you.
Love the content guys. Such great info for someone new or someone like me who walked away from Magic for 15 years. Thank you for all the great vids.
Scroll Rack+Teferi's Puzzle Box=fun stuff.
I would love to see a mana rock one! I’ve been playing for 6 months now and i always learn about new cards when I watch your videos!
I love the subtitles cause it says “ice cream scepter”
Great video as always ya nerds.
Also, that Blight steel shout out was bait lmao!
No but really I completely disagree on that take. While not definitely doesn't go in any deck, it IS that good in the right deck. Most recent example of where this is good is in Magic, all it needs is haste which isn't too hard. Especially since red is a key artifact color.
17:10 "maybe one exception..." yeah that's ya boi, Skullclamp!!!
My friends and I started a boxing league where we opened packs of Command Legends. I was excited to pull Scroll Rack since it was a card I never owned when I was younger. I put it in every deck variation I built from my card pool. I have yet to draw it in 8 games and I am a sad panda.
As an aside, sealed Commander Legends was a blast. We're going to keep adding new packs to the pool over time starting with Kaldheim, then maybe Modern Horizons for that snow theme.
I didn't realize how high you had Scroll Rack until this video. And yes, I anticipated the clamp.
I've had one copy of Mind Slayer since 2011 and it has almost ruined 10-15 year friendships when played at the exact right time.
Skullclamp would do very well in Kykar
Or, like... any deck :P
If you're in white and you have Lightning Greeves then you should be running Leonin Shikari. It gives all of your creatures shroud and haste
Keep the "best of" lists coming! I learn tons from them.
We are planning on doing more very soon
Cloudstone and scroll rack are absolutely broken with the new white blue precon. Being able to fortell the same cards and exile cards from your hand to make those spirit tokens equates in to so much value.
I can see that Cloudstone Curio recently went up in price in anticipation of this very video
@@NitpickingNerds thankfully I was able to get one months ago for a flicker deck I had brewing, but immediately took the two cards out for the deck. They're definitely game ending if unchecked.
One of the funniest things that happened in a game against someone with Bolas’ Citadel - I had Ruric Thar...
I consider Greaves to be far from an auto-include, but I've recently built Araumi and booy they do some work there!
Also Altar of Dementia is a powerhouse for filling up your graveyard basically for free.
Araumi and Altar are BEST friends for sure
Skull clamp is too narrow to be number 1 imho. It’s great in certain decks.
Isochron scepter LOVES heroic intervention or respite. Hilarious with questing beast.
Very underrated channel I think you guys should get more recognition. Also I am a man who likes blightsteel and no one can say otherwise
Would you cut blightsteel from a polymorph deck? I run it in an Ephara deck. It’s token generation with like 4 big boys in the 99.
if that made up super-Mindslaver was ever made, I'd have it altered for me into an Ender's Game reference
"It's too late; he's in Command now."
this is a certified sonic wallet classic
Hell. Yeah.
And please, folks, remember. If you got targeted with mindslaver, and then your commander gets exiled, the person controlling your turn can choose to let it remain in exile.
Glad I watched this, Cloudstone Curio is perfect for my landfall deck.
I don't see them actually printing a card like that, but a control the game for one turn cycle would fit really well in the Dnd set. Until your next turn, you become the DM. Rocks fall, everyone dies
you guys need to do a podcast too, easy to listen too while working
About the boots without the fur: if I'm scaring my opponent to leave mana open, then I am doing a good job as a control player. They will think the boots are for my commander but there are things more dangerous than him...
Wait .. doesnt the creatures only have haste as long as the equipment is attached? Or are you referring to having lots of creatures with tap abilities?
Good videos guys thanks for making it. Just to let you know when explaining alter of dementia you said cards go from gy to library.
If going infinite with altar of dementia against eldrazi, couldn't you state that you keep going until by sheer improbability (not impossible) you have the eldrazi as the only card in their library?
Did you guys count phyrexian and ashnods altar as ramp and that’s why they aren’t on here?
I have put Bolas Citadel in pretty much every deck I possibly could have in every format since it released.
I have like a 95% win rate with it if the card resolves.
If one were to put Helm of the Host on Phyrexian Metamorph, or Populate or create other token copies of it, would those tokens be able to become copies of other creatures/artifacts? Cause if so, that is absolutely bonkers in utility. God, you could make the token copies enter as copies of Helm of the Host *itself*, and get some expontntial stuff in there
Awww, thanks for praise ❤️❤️❤️
We're over it by now
Wow another top15? I HAVE to leave here mine, it was fun with enchantments ;) Non ramp? Ok
1) Top
2) Greaves/Boots
3) Skullclamp
4) Reservoir
5) Great Henge
6) Bolas's Citadel
7) Oblivion Stone
8) Isochron Scepter
9) Helm of the host
10) Panharmonicon
11) Baleful Strix
12) Blightsteel Colossus
13) I never played against Ashnod's Altar/Altar of Dementia combos but i guess it has to be somewhere in the 15, i'm sure i will lose badly to it some day
14) Walking Ballista
15) Painter/Stone combo
All deece cards, I would just note that we excluded altars and great henge because they are mana producers. Also we hate Blightsteel :P
btw trinket mage is great for walking ballista or anything under 1 cmc artifact
I won with blightsteel the other day. I’m waiting for the price to go up to trade it because I do not want it.
So you’re saying if I put winter orb in my hand as soon as I pull it I win the game why do I do that every time and just have 100% win rate just about
I absolutely want to see a video on the best artifacts that go get lands, I run a lot of lands matter decks
I would like to see a Artifact Ramp list, but truth be told that's only cause I'm
working on a Dakkon Blackblade deck, lol.
Cool vid.
Maybe best Topdeck manipulation cards could be a future video.
Ah someone who enjoys seeing Sensei's Divining Top and Scroll Rack 😂
@@NitpickingNerds yuriko is my favourite deck and elsha is top 5 for me
Scroll Rack is a bit too high on the list for my taste. I played it in every deck when I started EDH and soon started to remove it except from very specific build. (like you said, decks with lots of shuffling, top deck manipulation required, lots of card draw, etc)
But yeah, I do LOVE that card. Don't get me wrong :D
Dramatic scepter is edh because it only costs like 3$ for both cards, oh and it goes infinite with 3 Mana worth of rocks, and is deadly with storm or aetherflux reservoir
Card is very good
honestly that fake mindslaver upgrade commander could be four pips of each color and be like a 3/3 with that ETB trigger
Blightsteel is amazing in Hans where you can kill a player turn 3 with it.
Can you guys make top 15 ramp cards for each colour and artifacts?
Emry Lurker in the loch for mindslaver, orums chant with isochron scepter. Top+Bolas citadel win
I had to play against an infinite timewarp deck once who played Galazeth Prismari and winter orb so he could tap his own orb during his upkeep to let all his lands untap while we only get one. I hate that artifact ever since.
phyrexian mana taught me that paying life to cheat on costs of spells is generally pretty broken. Bolas' Citadel is wizards completely forgetting about one of the worst design mistakes of all time and deciding that it would be fine as long as they made it an oracle effect. So no, i never thought bolas' citadel was meh, i knew it was broken and so should have anyone else whos ever played any black in edh.
Bought scroll rack for my maelstrom wanderer deck for 20 bux. Really fresh reprint.
*We're never going to advocate for Blightsteel Colossus* ... Someday Beezy will have a Jalira deck!
gnarly video per usual!
a top (underrated artifacts) list would make a good watch!
[Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal ] + Voltaic Key is so busted to get 2 extra untaps every turn for all your rocks for like 7 mana total for start up, 3 each turn for 2 untaps
Dramatic Scepter is infinite with enough mana rocks
@@NitpickingNerds I forgot it untaps itself 🤦🏻♂️ ofc I don't need voltaic Key lol
Only prerelease I won was the double bolas citadel deck. Holy crap that card is crazy hahaha.
A player once cast a winter orb in a game where my Kaalia was out and everyone was tapped out... I obviously won because nobody could get rid of her
What about ‘Sculpting Steel’ it is a new staple in all my commander decks!
My buddy also hates Blightsteel...maybe that’s because it was swinging at him turn 3 from Illharg...🤣
I really like that full art land print. Is that a custom job or can I buy a copy somewhere?
I have a blight steel colossus in my purphorus sneak attack deck, its the best card in the deck, it literally one shots people for 1 or 3 mana
I play field of the dead in my omnath commander deck and its just bustet with those land-tutors like the map
I definitely should own more than one Skullclamp. Guess I'll get around to picking up more eventually. lol
Next time you order cards, toss one in!
Hell yeah I'd like to see the top 15 ramp artifacts.
Noted !
Blightsteel will never leave my Xenagos deck. A 22/22 trample infect haste is perfectly acceptable in my book :D
Wait if your commander gets exiled can’t you choose to send it to the command zone?
You totally can, but if your opponent is making decisions *for* you, they can choose to just send it to exile
I feel like this would wrap up and seem more professional with some mild, chillhop in the background. A little production depth
Love the video guys lets see just a casual commander deck you guys play.
Blightsteel is fine in something like an animar deck, after all, you're probably going to be casting it for free lol.
I have Blightsteel Colossus as a finisher in my stax deck but can't imagine him in much else.
Illharg. That feeling you get when you swing The Pig towards a player, then have a Blightsteel come in swinging at the “pillow Fort” player who’s completely unprepared for that? Priceless.
Then what cards would you recommend when it comes to giving your cards protection?
There are a lot of instant-speed ways to protect your creatures and/or commanders that we think are a bit more versatile than greaves
milling someone else with altar of dementia can very easily lead to a draw or even a loss depending on boardstate. nexus of fate is a thing.
I really like the top 15 videos.. defenetly looking forward to see more :)!
Winter Orb is a TWO mana win condition that immediately works. If it came into play tapped? Okay. If it was 6 mana? Okay. And, what do you need for this win condition to work? To play mana rocks? Also, Orb can go online as early as turn TWO, 1-Sol Ring 2-Orb+any 2 mana rock, congrats gg ez no reee. Skull clamp and Orb are on my must-ban / table-ban list.
Not usually a fan of bans especially when it comes to commanders, but I would ban winter orb before skull clap. It seems like it would solve alot of problems if orb got banned. 🙂
This video made me appreciate the design of so many cool artifacts. Many of them are fairly simple, like alter of dementia but are both enablers and finishers in fair and competitive decks alike.
You should do the top 10 mana rocks but it's 60 seconds long
So play winter orb in a Svella deck?
We demand farmer Rudy
Whats wrong with Blightsteel Colossus? If I can cheat this out into play, how is that a trap?
Yes I'm putting a bullseye on me but I'm also willing to use this to win.