Japanese Society is Getting to Me | Shrine Walk n' Talk
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2023
- Japanese culture, society, and pressure are getting to me after all these years. I'll talk about it.
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Some gooood venting going on here. Makes sense and I feel you on this. born in S.Korea and moving to the U.S at 8 years old (Int'l marriage) the cultural challenges and transitions was ROUGH for someone who absorbed Korean culture seemingly through my pores as a young kid, but suddenly half of it didn't apply in the US. I didn't have the ability to self reflect and maintain my identity at the time since my identity was still being molded as a child.
It's really interesting to see and hear the perspective of someone dealing with culture clash as an adult with a much more fully formed life outlook.
Thank you for sharing your own story!
This was so interesting. Like you said, you can do all the research you want but unless you live there it's hard to really grasp what society is really like. I've always said I admire you so much for moving there because the culture and society are just so different. Thank you for sharing!
Aww Matt! TY so much for you kind words forever and always ❤
@@GingerGaiden OF COURSE! You're my favourite!
I can definitely understand your frustration with rules changing. I really hate it when that happens because it essentially means that I need to learn something all over again. And there’s nothing more frustrating than having to learn different rules when you’ve just learned a previous set of rules already. It’s annoyingly inconsistent.
Yessss! I think I used to be more open and okay with change. But working and living in Japan for 6 years really gets you used to being strict.
I went to my first nomikai and then karaoke afterwards and its shocking how different people act then normal
It was fashionable about 20 years ago for growing Japanese companies to hire foreigners in upper management positions just so they could say “no” to bad ideas that would otherwise stagnate.😆
It’s natural to adapt to local culture, and with the right mindset it’s an opportunity for personal growth, as long as you keep in touch with your foundation.
It makes you learn a lot about yourself too! Turns out I'm way more of an adaptable person than I thought. For better or worse!
I think what you said makes sense. For me, it's about changes in work cultures. I rarely stay in a job longer than 3 years before I feel the itch to move on. There has been one job that I enjoyed that I stayed for a number of years and another job that I would have liked to have worked for a long time, but COVID nixed it (Chesapeake Shakespeare Company). But every time I go to a new job, I have to adapt: ways of doing things, saying things, interactions, how I dress...in some cases, how I think. Granted, not the same as living in another, different culture. But I get what you are saying. One day you wake up and go about your day and a memory will trigger the thought of, "Wait...why don't I do that anymore? Why does it make me uncomfortable now when it didn't before?" It creates unease or a more, less helpful sense of self-awareness. I think it is important, even if you do it by yourself, to reconnect with things periodically, to remember that things you did before are OK, in the right context. That's why taking walks in lovely locations help...I do the same thing sometimes. As always, wonderful videos....perhaps treat yourself to some gachapon!
You explained this so well! It's really how I feel. Thanks so much!
Thanks as always for your content and specifically what you’ve shared in this video. It’s important to consider that living somewhere is very different than visiting, also in recognizing that there are imperfections and problems in every society and learning how to accept and manage that. And things that are hard to imagine from an outside perspective. There’s a lot of value and provoking thought you’ve shared here. 👍👍
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Ryan!
@@GingerGaiden no problem! 👍😁
Same here. I love rules.
I Understand This feeling
Hmmmmmm. Just a casual conversation with the audience while walking in the park? I like it! And yes, I understood the peer pressure term without the card insert, but I did appreciate the touch! Your examples were also had good insights to the culture that most people here wouldn't know! Great video, and would like to see more of that style whenever!
Happy to hear you like this style! Thanks for letting me know!
@@GingerGaiden Very welcome!
I think anyone who thinks of moving to Japan (tourists too) but they should consider the things you're saying here. I often think of a student who' was a big fan of these 'anime' series. This compelled him to attend university in Japan. He went into a terrible long-lasting 'culture shock' when he realized the typical Japanese are not super-friendly, wildly open, expressing all feelings and emotions, explaining their love or desires etc. This is not a bad thing but it's not what the anime series depicted. Of course, that might be strange but workable for a foreigner who's there for 3 months, a year. At a certain point it becomes a socio-psychological burden.
Somehow I'm the biggest Otaku and know and don't let anime effect my expectations of Japan. But I think it's cause I watch of anime where work is involved and in a lot of anime it's portrayed pretty accurately.
I'm still getting used to all the rule following. I haven't felt too much peer pressure, but I am older and maybe I get more leeway. It was nice to meet you. Your singing was great.
Hello! It was nice to meet you too! Such a fun day!
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I was taken to Japan from Hungary when I was 10, without understanding a word, so I partially grew up with their culture but it was always hard to follow the trend which I finally decided not to do anymore in the middle school.
However, I could never like it either when teachers in Hungary kept saying "No!" or "Wrong!" in a scolding tone back in Hungary and I always tended to tell the reason and the circumstances first when I had to put someone out so they could feel not being hurt so much. That way works in Japan too, when you have to tell something that the other may not like, if you explain why you are in that situation and then tell your main message, it shows that your heart goes out to them, nevertheless, you need what you need.
I feel this SO much. Glad to have someone else understand!
@@GingerGaiden The fact that is hard to discover here is that they do accept diversity even better than they do in Western societies, they just don't celebrate it. The high chance for being hated is when you try to impose your ideas upon others but as long as you don't do that, they're open for new ideas that are considered weird in the West.
I totally see your point. Maybe it is about time you went home. You have been gone for too long!
Nah, this keeps me from wanting to go home. I don't dislike the feelings.
@@GingerGaiden I see! Take care! It is still very hot in Japan.
Do you feel like any of these subtle changes were unconsciously intentional in an effort to make yourself more like a native citizen? Potentially in order to reduce meiwaku? Japan has always seen more like a 'the nail that stands out gets hammered' sort of society. But maybe I'm thinking too harshly. Finally, do you ever just say screw it and take advantage of the ole' gaijin card?
Fire off a few, 'Gomen! Wakaranai...'
Great video! Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks so much!
It's really hard to say, but unconscious intent sounds very close!
I do say screw it sometimes! But not as often as when I first got here because I've adjusted to the culture so much.
いいね😊
Peer pressure, strict rules... that's the reason I live alone in Japan although this is my home country😂
As a foreigner you get used to it!
虫ftw！This is a strange question, but… since you mentioned COVID, I’d like to ask if there was a mass outbreak of toilet paper hoarders in Japan during that time. I’m guessing there wasn’t. I know it was very common here in the US. My (idealized?) view of Japanese society is that they wouldn’t take… more than their share (I’ll term it.) Really, I’m thinking that individuality, as it has evolved in the West (US anyway) is mostly a cover term for greed and selfishness. Anyway, don’t mean to sound too negative about things here… just a thought.
The only thing that was hard to find in Japan was masks! When there's a typhoon you might want to get to the grocery store cause things do tend to sell out, but yea I don't think Japan has as much of a problem with horders!
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Yea!!!
Fascinating video as always! Love these Walk n' Talks, and this area is really pretty!
As much as I love visiting Japan (soon! 😄), it's things like this that tell me that I definitely could not handle actually living there. Especially with things like Japanese work culture, my mental health just would not be able to survive a lot of the expectations in Japan. As someone who (in regards to my American peers) who is 1. loose with the rules and authority in general, 2. beyond fed up with indirect communication and people expecting me to be clairvoyant, and 3. a recovering people pleaser who has recently learned the value of a hard and firm "NO"... I would really be a square peg in a round hole over there. You've got to have a very specific mix of resilience and adaptation to be able to make it over there, and I applaud you for having a stronger will than mine for doing so.
Its okay to admit it's not for everyone and visits here and there suffice! All the things you mentioned are good things to consider when building your life in Japan.
NO!
Japanese residents quake in their boots