I'm glad that there's a channel that's giving the Johnston and Sammuel B. Roberts the attention they deserve, but I'm also bummed out that the Lexington didn't get a similar level of attention. It's been like 4 years and there's just the same videos, pictures, and sonar map of the wreck, that I've seen and seen again over the years. Be nice to see a 3d model of her wreck, more photos, etc.
The Johnson and Roberts are and were very well known there’s 4 or 5 hour long documentaries on discovery, history, military channels. That’s how I learned of them and their heroics. But lots of the story was fuzzy but when I saw the video in my home feed of them being located at bottom of the pacific after all these years I couldn’t wait to get an look at them in real life(on video) instead of some cgi of the battle. If people don’t already know about them then they most likely don’t care and would rather watch mtv or Cartoon Network then a documentary on WW2. I’ve learned that you can’t force it on someone who doesn’t want to see. My kids for example. Now let’s find some more
Yeah, I was so excited when Petrel began sailing around and showing us wrecks that we had no HD images of, some that where undiscovered and then covid hit and now she rolled on the dock...goddammit everything was going so well
They probably want to keep the true location of the Lexington a secret. Since today there are salvage raiders mainly from China and Indonesia that are raiding these wrecks for precious metals. They don't give a damn that these wrecks are war graves.
4:20 to get to the answer? You could have answered the thumbnail in the first 40 seconds and spent 5 minutes explaining "why" the spots / maintenance showed up
Im looking at the turrets,and i cant help but think of a story told by a Sammy B crew member, He said the order was given to abandon the ship and was told to make one sweep around the main deck and gun mounts to look for any injured who needed help getting over the side and into a life raft When he got to the 5in gun mount (i cant remember if it was fore or aft mount) He looked inside the mount and saw one of the gunners laying on the floor of the mount,horribly wounded his torso was literally ripped open..but laying across his body was a 5in shell and he says..help me load one more shell,and was trying to get on his feet and load the shell into the gun,
Thanks for the comment! Yes, that was Gunners Mate Paul Carr, I believe. He maintained such a high rate of fire, that when he loaded one of the final shells, he was mortally wounded when the hot barrel set it off prematurely.
@@HistoryX So Carr was in the forward mount with the side missing as described in the video? I was fortunate to speak with Dick Rhode on a few occasions several years ago about the battle,sea stories etc
Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailor" best book you'll ever read. My dad was aboard DE 11 doing convoy escort there in the south Pacific and always told me about this fight where destroyers and DEs stood up to the japanese fleet. "We are going into battle against overwhelming odds with little chance of survival. We will do what damage we can."
Thanks for the comment! I definitely agree. I know very little about marine biology or metal corrosion, but at over 4 miles down, apparently nothing happens. Rust, organisms; nothing.
@@HistoryX We should ask a Biologist why doesn't the Sammy B look like the Titanic in 1986. In 1986 Titanic was underwater for 75 years with massive amounts of rusticles. I wonder if it has something to do with the sault content of the water. Heck I think Bismarck even has rusticles. Aslo has the paint of the ships improved that much? I think it would be interesting to find out.
@@eriksimca9409 kind of, the water there is basically anoxic, has no oxygen dissolved in it, so basically nothing can live there. Honestly she might be in a "dead zone" so there might not even be bacteria around.
I recall reading that DE construction was so rushed that the yards didn't take the time to remove mill scale from the plates, leading to endless rust and paint problems once in service.
@@mpetersen6 That's the comment I was going to make. Well done! The big ships (Carriers, Battleships and Cruisers) could be expected to last 20 to 30 years as they were built with sufficient buoyancy reserve to allow them to accept modifications that would include additional sensors, weapons and stores / ammo. Not so with the Destroyers and DEs, these ships were in high demand in both the Pacific and Atlantic theaters and had very little "room to grow" in comparison to the "Big Boys."
If they didn't remove the mill scale then those marks are probably from brackets welded on the other side of the steel. The heat would case the mill scale to flake up but bot off and if just painted over would eventually corrode before the unheated material with the scale intact. Just a theory
Red Lead Paint as others have said. In the Merchant Marine, we would use about three coats of Red Lead, but add the final color to the Red Lead for each additional coat applied a day apart. This would slightly change the Red Lead closer to the final color. That way we kept track of coats by the shade of Red Lead and ended with three to four coats before the finish coat and needed only one final coat. We did this if the final coat was white. For other darker colors, not as necessary.
@@HistoryXNo. It was called Red-Lead but it was closer to orange in color. This is an antirust primer coat to be applied before final coat above the waterline. Red hulls: Ships hulls are red because that is the color chosen for the antifouling paint for the underwater portion of the hull. I don't know about WWII technology but todays antifouling paint for the underwater portion of the hull should be ablative. It wears away microscopically over time to reduce barnacle growth.
@@jerrycomo2736 I worked on a fishing boat and every year my boss would bust out his lead paint. In a different can every year. He started hoarding it when it was clear that it was about to be banned. So he’s had big 5 gallon buckets of it in his garage for years. You know it’s real when I try to pick it up. And the ablative is a lifesaver when it’s time to clean bottoms off. Not much left. And someone the old paint he had was super orange. And I would be told to only spot paint with that. Areas that needed extra protection I guess. But when I came time to sane bottom next year. I was covered in the paint. Literally No Protective Gear whatsoever. I think capt got nervous cause he offered me a Tyvek one piece. And it freaked me out when he offered that cause he was super penny pincher
@@Dawson-vy3zw yeah I know now. Imagine laying on your back the marina parking lot spring time with orbital sander above u sanding for days After he say me after the 1st day he said you know I can get u a suit. The white tyvek ones. That’s when I found out how bad it was and that when he heard it was going to be banned he went around and bought it all up. I don’t like thinking about it. I remember in the shower the water was that dark blood bottom paint red. .
I'm not a model builder myself, however I do think there is a destroyer escort model on the market. As for the particular paint scheme for the Sammy B, you'd probably have to get creative there. Can anyone verify this for us?
Same here. I did some research on this topic about a year ago, but apparently the only options out there are 1:700 (too small to my taste), 1:196 (Wooden model, so not a best option) or 1:96 and 1:72 hull-only sets. So yeah... not much out there. At least Revell did a Fletcher in 1/144 that im now converting to USS Johnston. I guess right now the best option for Sammy-B would be to find a good set of blueprints and then design and 3D print it... Perhaps in few years time i'll do that myself but my primary interest are 1/32 planes and i got a whole ton of kits waiting in the queue. Plus recently I've become a father, so free time for my hobby is really a premium...
@@marcinfrostymroz There is another option. While I'm sure that there are probably plans out there for Buckley Class DEs look and see if there is a full hull paper model of the Buckley's. If the model is published at say 1/200th and you want to build at a different scale just scale the print up or down. Plus you can take the model parts and use them as a template to build in different material.
If you or someone you know does that in the future, please make a video compilation of the build. I like watching shorter model building videos, and with the history of this ship, I would be glued to the videos like the bulkheads would be glued to the model hull. Maybe make two of the ship model. One of before the battle that sank it, and one of how the ship may have looked right before going under.
As a Navy veteran, having served on a frigate (previously classed as destroyer escort, reclassed in 1975), I find these videos very interesting. My little ship was later sold to Turkey, and is now a museum display ship there. But so many never made it back from their cruises.
My Naval reserve ship, the USS McKean DD784, was the last combatant stationed in Seattle. It now sits at the bottom of the Azores. It was used for gunnery practice.
Thanks for sharing. I served own a ship out of Apra Harbor, Guam that was commissioned in 1943 as Destroyer Escort USS Brister DE 327. In the mid-1950s Brister was modified and recommissioned as a DER, Destroyer Escort Radar Picket. Our role the first year was to patrol the Trust Territories of the Pacific; the Mariana Islands, Caroline Islands and other areas under the protection of the United Nations. In 1965 we received orders to patrol South Vietnam. We patrolled from the DMZ, south down the coast with stops in DaNang, Quang Ngai, Qui Nhon, Dong Hoa, Nha Trang, Phan Thet, Vung Tao, the around the horn into the Gulf of Thailand and on to Phu Quoc Island south of Cambodia.
Being a former sailor on a Destroyer (DD 704. USS BORIE) those marks an the side if the bulkhead appear to be paint primer applied prior to the finish gray paint. This is a standard procedure for ships at sea to prevent rusting of the bulkhead. I was a gunners mate on the BORIE assigned to mount 51 with twin 5 inch 38 guns. My service was in the early 1950's Jim Hardman Hatboro, PA
Gotta love the PBY in the mint mobile ad. My grandfather flew those sub hunting and search and rescue in the South Pacific during WWII. Miss you Papa (callsign Atlas)
5 minutes for 25 seconds worth of information. God forbid anybody depend on the ship intrinsic value and it's historical significance to attract and keep viewers. Wouldn't want to save these tidbits up until there was enough for a presentation that didn't require melodrama and a handful of repetition. 🙄 How about feeling the rest of the time with something genuinely interesting? Why not compare and contrast the Johnston and the Roberts with Titanic, why don't we wonder why the warships aren't suffering from rusticles even though they've only been submerged a third of a century less?
Educate yourself with one of my other videos about the shipwreck of the destroyer USS Johnston… Newly Released Computer Model of USS Johnston Shipwreck Displays Evidence of Explosions ua-cam.com/video/kcUYuVA9Rfs/v-deo.html
@@HistoryX I do enjoy the new information you share. But these presentations that are 68% padding are tiresome. When you review your finished product just before uploading, count the number of times you repeat yourself. Honestly, don't you think three is a bit much? Especially in the first two and a half minutes?
@@HM2SGT Your original comment asked for more content about the ship's "intrinsic value" and historical significance. I gave you that. Now it seems you want to change the subject.
Worked with a Scottish Fellow years ago (Duncan) who remembered a Luftwaffe Raid while anchored in Harbor. Bomb concussions knocked paint off the bulkheads !
I have read both Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors as well as Neptune's Inferno. Both are excellent books and make me appreciate even more hearing first hand my father in laws stories (USN WWII). It took a while for him to open up to me and I never asked just waited & hoped he would, when he did the stories made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. He made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. He was a torpedo man in the Destroyer Escort fleet serving on DE-347 USS Rutherford which was also in that area of the Pacific at that time. Thanks to all now serving, those who have, and those who will win the future. FLY NAVY!!!
Four miles down and still intact. You'd think that it would be squashed like a soda can. The numbers still look freshly painted - good paint. . Amazing discovery.
The ship was open to the sea, few if any compartments were fully watertight by the time she finally foundered. The water pressure inside the ship would have been the same as that outside so she wouldn't "crush" like a submarine hull might (USS Thresher and USS Scorpion both "crushed" as they sank.) At some point IF she went deep enough the exterior water pressure would have overcome hull and bulkheads of the sealed compartments at sea level pressure inside and *CRUNCH!*
@@robertf3479 thanks for information, either way not a way to go. Years ago I inspected some electronics systems in a non nuke submarine, and discovered I had claustrophobia Submariners have got nerves of steel
Agreed someone was hanging over the side in a bosuns chair with a needle gun and a bucket o paint. But, BUT WAIT! were there lights on inside the port holes??!!
Alright look, this is the first video of yours that I’ve watched and there’s already been 2 ads for mint mobile. Do the ad at the beginning, the middle, or at the end of the video, not every 30 seconds. If I wanted to get bombarded with ads, I’d have loaded up Hulu ffs
To me, it's the sudden appearance of the bits and pieces, then the hull kind of coming out of nowhere, THAT is what gets me every time. That and the claustrophobic conditions that you see in those subs, hell no. You will not get me down there in one of those damn things.pitch black and then the ship is almost RIGHT THERE. No. Just no.
Thanks for the comment, Snyde Don. You need to check-out the other videos on the USS Samuel B Roberts here on History X... ua-cam.com/users/shortsoBABN3h6-Nw?feature=share
You have to watch bla,bla,bla for 3:46 to finally get to what the 4:49 post "Captured on Camera: Strange Spots Found on WW2 USS Samuel B Roberts Shipwreck!" was actually about.
4:50 video for :30 of new information and the rest repeated commercials. You dishonor the lost servicemen and disrespect the viewers time. Unsubscribing now.
Thanks for the comment! You are so right, Paul. I heard about the shipwreck robbing and dredging. Couldn't believe it. I have a video in the works about that very thing.
Thanks for sticking 4 fingers up to the camera while you said “four miles” as I would have missed it. Given that 99% of the world doesn’t use imperial measurement how about using kilometres?
1. "99%"... The USA has 4.25% of the world's population. Add in the large parts of Canada's population which still use imperial measurements (including their entire rail network), as well as lingering use in the UK (all road signage has dual units), that's easily less than 95%. Then account for the fact that this is an English language video on an American website which limits the audience to a subset of the world population heavily skewed AWAY from metric fluency. And finally this is a video about the wreck of an American warship that is famous mainly in the USA, with secondary appeal to naval history fanboys where the largest populations are in the former British empire (and maybe Japan, but the story of this ship is rather embarrassing to the IJN). I'd give better than even odds that more half the people watching this video are more familiar with miles than with meters. 2. Even metricated countries mostly aren't fully metricated. All but 3 nations (Russia, China, & north Korea) use aviation standards which measure altitude above the ground in imperial feet instead of meters (0.3048m), and distance in nautical miles (1 arc minute of the circumference of the earth). Shipping worldwide also uses nautical miles. 3. The original definition of the meter was supposed to also be based on the circumference of the earth, but the French officials screwed up the measurement, so the meter is only accurate to 3 significant digits. Since the metric system is based on the length of the meter, the density of water (which they also didn't measure quite right), & the boiling and freezing points of water, the Meter and Gram are functionally no less arbitrarily defined than the Yard & Pound. While there are advantages to decimalization of units, the only particular reason to use french metric units as the base is essentially the same argument from tradition which is ironically the same reason that the USA still uses British units. The rest of the developed world fully abandoned their old customary units for metric in the aftermath of WW2 when there was little economic downside to rebuilding your entire manufacturing & transportation infrastructure. Conversely the USA was a relatively early adopter of metric, legally defining the customary units in metric terms in 1866, but never progressed much beyond that point because the USA was also the first nation to develop modern industrial practices. The concept of "interchangeable parts" used to be called "the American system of manufacturing", between 1866 & 1890 was in second place in manufactured goods production behind the UK who used the same units (mostly), and by WW2 the USA was 40% of world manufacturing capacity, the 95% afterwards, and even despite having since been surpassed by China is still firmly in second place with more than the next 3 nations combined with imports of less than 7% GDP from outside north america. There simply has never been a point where the long term benefits of making the switch produced enough impetus to overcome the enormous short term economic costs.
Metric please ..only 3 countrys in the world dont use metric ..the water was 4 miles deep ..you are basicly talking jibberish ..98% of the World has no idea what the heck a mile is
I'm glad that there's a channel that's giving the Johnston and Sammuel B. Roberts the attention they deserve, but I'm also bummed out that the Lexington didn't get a similar level of attention. It's been like 4 years and there's just the same videos, pictures, and sonar map of the wreck, that I've seen and seen again over the years. Be nice to see a 3d model of her wreck, more photos, etc.
The Johnson and Roberts are and were very well known there’s 4 or 5 hour long documentaries on discovery, history, military channels. That’s how I learned of them and their heroics. But lots of the story was fuzzy but when I saw the video in my home feed of them being located at bottom of the pacific after all these years I couldn’t wait to get an look at them in real life(on video) instead of some cgi of the battle. If people don’t already know about them then they most likely don’t care and would rather watch mtv or Cartoon Network then a documentary on WW2. I’ve learned that you can’t force it on someone who doesn’t want to see. My kids for example. Now let’s find some more
Yeah, I was so excited when Petrel began sailing around and showing us wrecks that we had no HD images of, some that where undiscovered and then covid hit and now she rolled on the dock...goddammit everything was going so well
They probably want to keep the true location of the Lexington a secret. Since today there are salvage raiders mainly from China and Indonesia that are raiding these wrecks for precious metals. They don't give a damn that these wrecks are war graves.
4:20 to get to the answer? You could have answered the thumbnail in the first 40 seconds and spent 5 minutes explaining "why" the spots / maintenance showed up
That and the 'eerie' music is really annoying, especially since it's been used in about thousands of other videos previously.
Im looking at the turrets,and i cant help but think of a story told by a Sammy B crew member,
He said the order was given to abandon the ship and was told to make one sweep around the main deck and gun mounts to look for any injured who needed help getting over the side and into a life raft
When he got to the 5in gun mount (i cant remember if it was fore or aft mount)
He looked inside the mount and saw one of the gunners laying on the floor of the mount,horribly wounded his torso was literally ripped open..but laying across his body was a 5in shell and he says..help me load one more shell,and was trying to get on his feet and load the shell into the gun,
Thanks for the comment! Yes, that was Gunners Mate Paul Carr, I believe. He maintained such a high rate of fire, that when he loaded one of the final shells, he was mortally wounded when the hot barrel set it off prematurely.
@@HistoryX So Carr was in the forward mount with the side missing as described in the video?
I was fortunate to speak with Dick Rhode on a few occasions several years ago about the battle,sea stories etc
Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailor" best book you'll ever read. My dad was aboard DE 11 doing convoy escort there in the south Pacific and always told me about this fight where destroyers and DEs stood up to the japanese fleet. "We are going into battle against overwhelming odds with little chance of survival. We will do what damage we can."
Absolutely fucking insane that the paint scheme is still visible on the superstructure, 80 years later.
Thanks for the comment! I definitely agree. I know very little about marine biology or metal corrosion, but at over 4 miles down, apparently nothing happens. Rust, organisms; nothing.
@@HistoryX We should ask a Biologist why doesn't the Sammy B look like the Titanic in 1986. In 1986 Titanic was underwater for 75 years with massive amounts of rusticles. I wonder if it has something to do with the sault content of the water. Heck I think Bismarck even has rusticles. Aslo has the paint of the ships improved that much? I think it would be interesting to find out.
@@Joe-wk9ow would say its the stale seabed enviroment, cold, dark
@@Joe-wk9ow I suspect it has something to do with the Samual B Roberts being at almost twice the depth of the Titanic. 12.6k feet versus 22.6k feet
@@eriksimca9409 kind of, the water there is basically anoxic, has no oxygen dissolved in it, so basically nothing can live there.
Honestly she might be in a "dead zone" so there might not even be bacteria around.
I recall reading that DE construction was so rushed that the yards didn't take the time to remove mill scale from the plates, leading to endless rust and paint problems once in service.
Thanks for the information in your comment!!! I had never heard that before, but it makes a lot of sense.
@@HistoryX it was in "Little Ship, Big War", by Edward Stafford. Well worth finding a copy, if you have never read it.
Well, they were probably not expected to be in service that long.
@@mpetersen6 That's the comment I was going to make. Well done! The big ships (Carriers, Battleships and Cruisers) could be expected to last 20 to 30 years as they were built with sufficient buoyancy reserve to allow them to accept modifications that would include additional sensors, weapons and stores / ammo. Not so with the Destroyers and DEs, these ships were in high demand in both the Pacific and Atlantic theaters and had very little "room to grow" in comparison to the "Big Boys."
If they didn't remove the mill scale then those marks are probably from brackets welded on the other side of the steel. The heat would case the mill scale to flake up but bot off and if just painted over would eventually corrode before the unheated material with the scale intact. Just a theory
Red Lead Paint as others have said. In the Merchant Marine, we would use about three coats of Red Lead, but add the final color to the Red Lead for each additional coat applied a day apart. This would slightly change the Red Lead closer to the final color. That way we kept track of coats by the shade of Red Lead and ended with three to four coats before the finish coat and needed only one final coat. We did this if the final coat was white. For other darker colors, not as necessary.
Thanks for the comment, Jerry! The red lead paint... Is that the reason a lot of ships hulls are red?
@@HistoryXNo. It was called Red-Lead but it was closer to orange in color. This is an antirust primer coat to be applied before final coat above the waterline. Red hulls: Ships hulls are red because that is the color chosen for the antifouling paint for the underwater portion of the hull. I don't know about WWII technology but todays antifouling paint for the underwater portion of the hull should be ablative. It wears away microscopically over time to reduce barnacle growth.
@@jerrycomo2736 I worked on a fishing boat and every year my boss would bust out his lead paint. In a different can every year. He started hoarding it when it was clear that it was about to be banned. So he’s had big 5 gallon buckets of it in his garage for years. You know it’s real when I try to pick it up. And the ablative is a lifesaver when it’s time to clean bottoms off. Not much left. And someone the old paint he had was super orange. And I would be told to only spot paint with that. Areas that needed extra protection I guess. But when I came time to sane bottom next year. I was covered in the paint. Literally No Protective Gear whatsoever. I think capt got nervous cause he offered me a Tyvek one piece. And it freaked me out when he offered that cause he was super penny pincher
@@judd0112 that stuff got banned for a reason 🤣🤣🤣 you walked in covered in it and he knew ah shiittttt
@@Dawson-vy3zw yeah I know now. Imagine laying on your back the marina parking lot spring time with orbital sander above u sanding for days After he say me after the 1st day he said you know I can get u a suit. The white tyvek ones. That’s when I found out how bad it was and that when he heard it was going to be banned he went around and bought it all up. I don’t like thinking about it. I remember in the shower the water was that dark blood bottom paint red. .
I love this ship. I wish there was a model of the USS Samuel B Roberts
I'm not a model builder myself, however I do think there is a destroyer escort model on the market. As for the particular paint scheme for the Sammy B, you'd probably have to get creative there. Can anyone verify this for us?
Same here. I did some research on this topic about a year ago, but apparently the only options out there are 1:700 (too small to my taste), 1:196 (Wooden model, so not a best option) or 1:96 and 1:72 hull-only sets. So yeah... not much out there. At least Revell did a Fletcher in 1/144 that im now converting to USS Johnston. I guess right now the best option for Sammy-B would be to find a good set of blueprints and then design and 3D print it... Perhaps in few years time i'll do that myself but my primary interest are 1/32 planes and i got a whole ton of kits waiting in the queue. Plus recently I've become a father, so free time for my hobby is really a premium...
@@marcinfrostymroz
There is another option. While I'm sure that there are probably plans out there for Buckley Class DEs look and see if there is a full hull paper model of the Buckley's. If the model is published at say 1/200th and you want to build at a different scale just scale the print up or down. Plus you can take the model parts and use them as a template to build in different material.
If you or someone you know does that in the future, please make a video compilation of the build. I like watching shorter model building videos, and with the history of this ship, I would be glued to the videos like the bulkheads would be glued to the model hull. Maybe make two of the ship model. One of before the battle that sank it, and one of how the ship may have looked right before going under.
As a Navy veteran, having served on a frigate (previously classed as destroyer escort, reclassed in 1975), I find these videos very interesting. My little ship was later sold to Turkey, and is now a museum display ship there. But so many never made it back from their cruises.
My Naval reserve ship, the USS McKean DD784, was the last combatant stationed in Seattle. It now sits at the bottom of the Azores. It was used for gunnery practice.
Thanks for sharing. I served own a ship out of Apra Harbor, Guam that was commissioned in 1943 as Destroyer Escort USS Brister DE 327. In the mid-1950s Brister was modified and recommissioned as a DER, Destroyer Escort Radar Picket. Our role the first year was to patrol the Trust Territories of the Pacific; the Mariana Islands, Caroline Islands and other areas under the protection of the United Nations. In 1965 we received orders to patrol South Vietnam. We patrolled from the DMZ, south down the coast with stops in DaNang, Quang Ngai, Qui Nhon, Dong Hoa, Nha Trang, Phan Thet, Vung Tao, the around the horn into the Gulf of Thailand and on to Phu Quoc Island south of Cambodia.
I'm glad I discovered your channel. I will be checking out your videos.
Welcome aboard! Thank you for the kind words!!
Being a former sailor on a Destroyer (DD 704. USS BORIE) those marks an the side if the bulkhead appear to be paint primer applied prior to the finish gray paint. This is a standard procedure for ships at sea to prevent rusting of the bulkhead. I was a gunners mate on the BORIE assigned to mount 51 with twin 5 inch 38 guns. My service was in the early 1950's
Jim Hardman Hatboro, PA
Vc Tem Quantos Anos😮
Gotta love the PBY in the mint mobile ad. My grandfather flew those sub hunting and search and rescue in the South Pacific during WWII.
Miss you Papa (callsign Atlas)
Thanks for the comment. If you want to see a video exploring that PBY, then check-out this video...
ua-cam.com/video/x539Jc8Ck90/v-deo.html
Great video Ken, pointing out things most people don't understand or couldn't recognize.
Thanks for the comment and the support, Ed!
Great video Ken,
Thanks..
5 minutes for 25 seconds worth of information. God forbid anybody depend on the ship intrinsic value and it's historical significance to attract and keep viewers. Wouldn't want to save these tidbits up until there was enough for a presentation that didn't require melodrama and a handful of repetition. 🙄
How about feeling the rest of the time with something genuinely interesting? Why not compare and contrast the Johnston and the Roberts with Titanic, why don't we wonder why the warships aren't suffering from rusticles even though they've only been submerged a third of a century less?
Educate yourself with one of my other videos about the shipwreck of the destroyer USS Johnston… Newly Released Computer Model of USS Johnston Shipwreck Displays Evidence of Explosions
ua-cam.com/video/kcUYuVA9Rfs/v-deo.html
@@HistoryX he doesn't need to educate himself. How condescending. Why don't you stop making commercials disguised as real content.
@@HistoryX I do enjoy the new information you share. But these presentations that are 68% padding are tiresome. When you review your finished product just before uploading, count the number of times you repeat yourself. Honestly, don't you think three is a bit much? Especially in the first two and a half minutes?
@@HM2SGT Your original comment asked for more content about the ship's "intrinsic value" and historical significance. I gave you that. Now it seems you want to change the subject.
Worked with a Scottish Fellow years ago (Duncan) who remembered a Luftwaffe Raid while anchored in Harbor. Bomb concussions knocked paint off the bulkheads !
So this was a mint mobile commercial.
3 minutes into the video, 2 sponsor mentions and repetitive script we finally get to the subject matter.
Then I was trying to see the ship images at the end and they were overpowered by the bright image of the man talking. That isn't necessary.
I have read both Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors as well as Neptune's Inferno. Both are excellent books and make me appreciate even more hearing first hand my father in laws stories (USN WWII). It took a while for him to open up to me and I never asked just waited & hoped he would, when he did the stories made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. He made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. He was a torpedo man in the Destroyer Escort fleet serving on DE-347 USS Rutherford which was also in that area of the Pacific at that time. Thanks to all now serving, those who have, and those who will win the future. FLY NAVY!!!
"If it moved you saluted it, if it did not move you painted it'"
Thankyou that was interesting.
“Once over dirt, Twice over rust” wise words of my first LPO.
Four miles down and still intact. You'd think that it would be squashed like a soda can. The numbers still look freshly painted - good paint. . Amazing discovery.
The ship was open to the sea, few if any compartments were fully watertight by the time she finally foundered. The water pressure inside the ship would have been the same as that outside so she wouldn't "crush" like a submarine hull might (USS Thresher and USS Scorpion both "crushed" as they sank.) At some point IF she went deep enough the exterior water pressure would have overcome hull and bulkheads of the sealed compartments at sea level pressure inside and *CRUNCH!*
@@robertf3479 thanks for information, either way not a way to go. Years ago I inspected some electronics systems in a non nuke submarine, and discovered I had claustrophobia Submariners have got nerves of steel
Ohhh.... Spot maintenance. Wow you got me!
Agreed someone was hanging over the side in a bosuns chair with a needle gun and a bucket o paint. But, BUT WAIT! were there lights on inside the port holes??!!
Oh man.... Needle gun.... Great way to vibrate your arm into oblivion.
It hit the bottom so hard that it crumpled and buckled the ship.
4 miles is over 6 km deep.. That is incredible deep.
Ty
It is noted that fire during a battle or accident accelerates metal oxidation wherever it comes into contact with salt rich water.
4:00 to get to the subject and point...
Alright look, this is the first video of yours that I’ve watched and there’s already been 2 ads for mint mobile. Do the ad at the beginning, the middle, or at the end of the video, not every 30 seconds. If I wanted to get bombarded with ads, I’d have loaded up Hulu ffs
Some unfortunate sailor dangling on a scaffold with a needle gun and a can of green primer. Adventure they said.
The Japanese used dye markers in their shells to tell who's salvos were who's. I never heard what that did with a hit.
Good thing the wreck is resting so deep. Could preventing the chinese from getting their hands on it to scrap it.....
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Thanks so much, Robert!
Less then 5 minutes and 3 commercials.. click bait kinda
To me a sunken ship is one of the most Frightening things in the world. I keep expecting to see grinning skulls or red eyes looking out a port hole.
To me, it's the sudden appearance of the bits and pieces, then the hull kind of coming out of nowhere, THAT is what gets me every time. That and the claustrophobic conditions that you see in those subs, hell no. You will not get me down there in one of those damn things.pitch black and then the ship is almost RIGHT THERE. No. Just no.
Wish they could find Hoel too.
Ooc do you know of who is a professional records researcher in military records?
Like the program, but the music, shirt the host shirt wearing is too small and the necklace? Just odd.
Good thing its so deep or Asian steel pirates would have scooped it right off the bottom like they did the Repulse and many other WW2 shipwrecks.
Doggon it, you could go in for a deep analysis of the damage
Repetitious content except for the extended commercial for cell company.
Of all you could have said about this ship apparently bondo was the big surprise.
Thanks for the comment, Snyde Don. You need to check-out the other videos on the USS Samuel B Roberts here on History X... ua-cam.com/users/shortsoBABN3h6-Nw?feature=share
@@HistoryX thanks for the response. I may have been a little harsh, I apologize. Will definitely be checking out more of your videos. Have a good day.
@@snydedon9636 absolutely no problem. Just glad you took the time to comment. Hopefully you’ll check some more History X videos :)
Someone went to a lot of trouble to go down there and paint that spot corrosion
You have to watch bla,bla,bla for 3:46 to finally get to what the 4:49 post "Captured on Camera: Strange Spots Found on WW2 USS Samuel B Roberts Shipwreck!" was actually about.
Went up against Japanese cruisers was leyte gulf or marianas battle
would that raise the samuel b
Anyone who spent a day as a sailor knows exactly what those spots are 🤣
TLDW, paint maintenance spots. save yourself 4 min
Oh, so those paint brush stroke lookin blobs are paint, huh? Who'd have thought.
Skip to the last 30 seconds of the vid for the explanation.
4:50 video for :30 of new information and the rest repeated commercials. You dishonor the lost servicemen and disrespect the viewers time. Unsubscribing now.
Red lead paint
Scrappers are cleaning up the Oceans
Thanks for the comment! You are so right, Paul. I heard about the shipwreck robbing and dredging. Couldn't believe it. I have a video in the works about that very thing.
@@HistoryX That old steel is in high demand
Aliens.
Red lead.
Did you need to make a 8 minute video with a 3 second answer??? Jeez!
8-minute video?
@@HistoryX felt like 20
@@lopezmario4633 UA-cam analytics indicate you watched it 4.7 times. Thanks for all of the views :)
Sammy b was famous for what it did if i remember right
oh wow...3 minutes of useless info on a sub 5min video. Way to go for it
Made a 5 minute video that should of been 30 seconds.
03:00
A girl named Samuel.
Red lead….deck apes doing their thing. 😀
Wearing your little brothers tee shirt.
Thanks for sticking 4 fingers up to the camera while you said “four miles” as I would have missed it. Given that 99% of the world doesn’t use imperial measurement how about using kilometres?
Is Imperial too hard?
1. "99%"... The USA has 4.25% of the world's population. Add in the large parts of Canada's population which still use imperial measurements (including their entire rail network), as well as lingering use in the UK (all road signage has dual units), that's easily less than 95%. Then account for the fact that this is an English language video on an American website which limits the audience to a subset of the world population heavily skewed AWAY from metric fluency. And finally this is a video about the wreck of an American warship that is famous mainly in the USA, with secondary appeal to naval history fanboys where the largest populations are in the former British empire (and maybe Japan, but the story of this ship is rather embarrassing to the IJN).
I'd give better than even odds that more half the people watching this video are more familiar with miles than with meters.
2. Even metricated countries mostly aren't fully metricated. All but 3 nations (Russia, China, & north Korea) use aviation standards which measure altitude above the ground in imperial feet instead of meters (0.3048m), and distance in nautical miles (1 arc minute of the circumference of the earth). Shipping worldwide also uses nautical miles.
3. The original definition of the meter was supposed to also be based on the circumference of the earth, but the French officials screwed up the measurement, so the meter is only accurate to 3 significant digits. Since the metric system is based on the length of the meter, the density of water (which they also didn't measure quite right), & the boiling and freezing points of water, the Meter and Gram are functionally no less arbitrarily defined than the Yard & Pound.
While there are advantages to decimalization of units, the only particular reason to use french metric units as the base is essentially the same argument from tradition which is ironically the same reason that the USA still uses British units.
The rest of the developed world fully abandoned their old customary units for metric in the aftermath of WW2 when there was little economic downside to rebuilding your entire manufacturing & transportation infrastructure. Conversely the USA was a relatively early adopter of metric, legally defining the customary units in metric terms in 1866, but never progressed much beyond that point because the USA was also the first nation to develop modern industrial practices. The concept of "interchangeable parts" used to be called "the American system of manufacturing", between 1866 & 1890 was in second place in manufactured goods production behind the UK who used the same units (mostly), and by WW2 the USA was 40% of world manufacturing capacity, the 95% afterwards, and even despite having since been surpassed by China is still firmly in second place with more than the next 3 nations combined with imports of less than 7% GDP from outside north america.
There simply has never been a point where the long term benefits of making the switch produced enough impetus to overcome the enormous short term economic costs.
I hate bait channel paint really
A little "click bait ish" I must say...
Metric please ..only 3 countrys in the world dont use metric ..the water was 4 miles deep ..you are basicly talking jibberish ..98% of the World has no idea what the heck a mile is
What a waste of time.
More Blah, Blah, Blah than actual video on the ship.
click bait
Get that stupid open copyright scary
Music our of there losers
this fascination with WW2 is kinda annoying for me
Seems the most to your video he has a commercial for a cell phone company that’s a shame