Speaking as a solidly midfoot striker and very light weight runner, the Mach 6 was an extremely fun and versatile trainer. I used it for everything from slow, easy runs to double-digit long runs, and it was responsive enough to use for up-tempo running as well. It was also quite durable and I wore it to death for a combination of about 250 miles of running plus too many additional miles of walking. The upper still looked brand new when I retired it. It’s the only HOKA I loved that much and while I haven’t yet replaced it with the same shoe, I happily could have and still might.
Time to get the discounted Mach X then! As a mostly budget runner, getting previous iteration that is still considered good and close to the newest version is the only way to keep running well without much (if any) sacrifice at all
@@EdwinPohan They’re not comparable. The X2 almost has a different design philosophy from the X1. Two totally different experiences. You might find that the X1 leans on the side of comfort while the X2 leans on the side of speed.
@@landaring But in this case, it’s not a matter of buying Gen A because Gen B isn’t an improvement. They’re totally different shoes, so it’d still be worth it to give the Mach X2 a try if you feel like it serves a spot in your rotation. I personally wouldn’t buy the X for the types of runs the X2 serves me.
I got my Mach X2 last week and I have already put about 60 km in it. I love the feel of the midsole at any pace in between marathon and half marathon for me. Anything too slow feels a bit clunky. Love the shoe, I will use it for my upcoming marathon!
Ran the Chicago Marathon in the Hoka Mach 5 and had zero blisters or foot pain. The regular Mach series will always be one of my favorites. Such a great value.
My experiences are the opposite of Kofuzi quite often it seems lol I'm a bigger 200lb runner so maybe part of it. Love love this shoe at all paces actually and it fits me perfectly with little to no heel issue. I've tried so many of the top shoes and this along with skyward x also from Hoka have been fantastic. Among my two favs this year. Really haven't enjoyed Hoka for some years now but they're killing it lately.
Have had the Mach X2 since release day and it's an amazing shoe. Despite its race trim construction, it still feels good at slow paces. Not sure what Kofuzi means about the lack of bounce, because this shoe has plenty of it. I think it's the "training trim" version of the Cielo X1 as it presents a lot of similar qualities. Maybe it really doesn't suit his foot strike, but it's plenty bouncy, light, and quick, while still feeling good at easy pace. Great all around shoe that trends on the quicker end.
Like he said in the video. What might not work for him may very well work for others. Running styles is very different for everyone so his way may not be condusive of the bounce you are talking about while your running style may allow the bounce to manifest. If everyone had the same foot and running style, we don't need a variety of shoes.
@@strawberry_iced_donut Right. The reason for my comment is to let people know that there’s plenty of bounce/crumple/energy return in the shoe. The video almost puts a negative shine on the shoe altogether. It’s no knock on Kofuzi, but it’s a pretty great shoe despite him not even granting a place for it in the Hoka rotation at the end.
excellent overview.., thank you for addressing the overlap between a lot of shoes, in not only the Hoka line, but many shoe brands. I feel that some of these shoe brands could be not only more efficient, but could better serve the consumer, by not making it so confusing with so many shoes. Heck they (shoe brands), say that most of the ppl that purchase these running shoes, don't use them for running.
I love this shoe. This one gets the majority of my harder training days to go along with the Skyward X as my recovery shoe. I will maybe throw something in for shorter distance intervals, but this can handle that as well if needed. I've got some races to close out the year, and I've considered using this for some of them (don't worry, no one is concerned about me placing in an "illegal" shoe).
@@garychan4850 Noise on the Mach 6 and (maybe) speedgoat was all there was this year, meanwhile ASICS dropping banger after banger not to mention a strong presence on the Olympics marathon Nimbus, cumulus, NB, SB, glideride 😜😜😜
I also see this as an easy choice for many to race in. Isn't it as light or lighter than the Cielo x 1? A cheaper race day option that would work quite well for many. Protective and fast. It could be a trainer and racer and also for me works for slower paces so versatile. When you consider all that the price all of a sudden seems quite good. I think it's a possible shoe of the year for those that don't have any issues with the heel. I don't think I'm crazy so think that from many reviews I've come across as well as my own experience.
I don't disagree. I just personally prefer the Mach 6 in each dimension you described. But for those for whom the Mach 6 may be too unstable or too soft, the Mach X2 could certainly be a great race day option. that person would also likely have a completely different preferred Hoka rotation than I do.
True Accurate Review👌. I sent the mach x2 back to Hoka as it just doesn’t offer me anything different to my rotation. Trying out the topo specter 2 Tuesday after the UK release last week.
This shoe does intrigue me, but I just don’t know that I need it in my current rotation, especially at that elevated price point. It looks to be a nice upgrade over the first version, however.
I have it but haven't tested it yet. if it's anything like the mach x2 or the skyward x, I don't think it would have mattered either way but let me know where you'd think it would fit in my lineup
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for your review! This is exactly what I'm thinking if Magic Speed 4 or Mach X2. I love SKy Paris, this is my best racing shoe, better for me that Vaporfly 3, also love Superblast, Superblast is the king of supertrainers in my opinion. so Asics seems like company of the year :) That's why I'm maybe more leaning towards MGS4. IS that better for speed workouts than Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 as well? I loved ES3, byt version 4 seems to me less propulsive than version 3 and I think ES 2 was the best fit to wokrouts/tempo compared to later version 3 and now version 4. So looking for something instead of Saucony ES4. :) Thanks a lot.
I prefer the Endorphin Speed 4 to the Magic Speed 4, but I agree that I wish the Endorphin Speed 4 had a bit more pop to it. And as far as your rotation goes, I'd still go with the Endo Speed 4 and then reach for the Metaspeed Sky Paris for workouts that need it.
As a runner with marathon goal time is 4.00-4.25 hours, I am unsure I will get a full benefit of supershoes/racing shoe. Instead, I look for Supertrainer for my marathon, so I more excited to see the reviews of this range/class of shoe. Since X2 is too expensive for me (and yes, with the same price tag, I think I will look for another shoe), I got discounted price Mach X for about $127, so far so good for me, not as fast as Boston 12 or Endorphin Speed 3, but I feel it will be good enough for Marathon. Also tried Mach 6 in the store, and I instantly knows why people love that shoe, might be will be on my list for the when the next iteration out.
I thought the Mach X was actually a great shoe. It was a good daily/long run trainer. Wouldn't call it a workout/race shoe but not a bad shoe as a whole
I bought X2 especially for the marathon (Warsaw). I have Pumas with carbon, but they seem too hard for such a distance and Novablast 3, but that's for slow runs. After 35 km @ 4:49 (first easy run) I don't feel a nice return of energy in the shoes, I have the impression that the cushioning absorbs everything. We'll see what happens on acceleration, I hope it improves, because otherwise it's money down the drain :/
I will assume you mean the cloudmonster hyper. I find each of the shoes to be underwhelming, given the long list of premium of materials on each shoe's spec sheet. each shoe is also quite overpriced. functionally, the Mach X2 is a daily trainer than can go fast whereas the Cloudmonster Hyper is a shoe that doesn't seem to enjoy going fast.
i just tried it on in a local store earlier today, and it’s quite narrow for my wideAss feet hahaha. they said there will be a wide version. any possible you can do a review on the width difference? or maybe anybody here know the width difference regular vs wide version?
I ran 9 miles in the Mach X2 and got a lot of heel rubbing and a nasty blister. I see this is a common issue with this shoe. I returned them the next day. Shoe is great minus the heel. Super disappointed.
Speaking as a solidly midfoot striker and very light weight runner, the Mach 6 was an extremely fun and versatile trainer. I used it for everything from slow, easy runs to double-digit long runs, and it was responsive enough to use for up-tempo running as well. It was also quite durable and I wore it to death for a combination of about 250 miles of running plus too many additional miles of walking. The upper still looked brand new when I retired it. It’s the only HOKA I loved that much and while I haven’t yet replaced it with the same shoe, I happily could have and still might.
I agree. But I really wore mine to death. 1000kms (625 miles) and they didn’t start feeling dead until 850km in.
Time to get the discounted Mach X then! As a mostly budget runner, getting previous iteration that is still considered good and close to the newest version is the only way to keep running well without much (if any) sacrifice at all
Got mine at 109sgd last pair my size 😆
X2 is a big improvement over the 1
@@EdwinPohan They’re not comparable. The X2 almost has a different design philosophy from the X1. Two totally different experiences. You might find that the X1 leans on the side of comfort while the X2 leans on the side of speed.
I feel like responses are missing the point of getting a good shoe that is close to state of art on a deal
@@landaring But in this case, it’s not a matter of buying Gen A because Gen B isn’t an improvement. They’re totally different shoes, so it’d still be worth it to give the Mach X2 a try if you feel like it serves a spot in your rotation. I personally wouldn’t buy the X for the types of runs the X2 serves me.
It’s been a while since I last saw a Kofuzi Hoka review and didn’t want to buy that shoe, but you just helped me save 190 dollars
I got my Mach X2 last week and I have already put about 60 km in it. I love the feel of the midsole at any pace in between marathon and half marathon for me. Anything too slow feels a bit clunky. Love the shoe, I will use it for my upcoming marathon!
I’m glad you mentioned the rocket X 2 , it’s often an overlooked shoe when people talk about Hoka
really? it's usually like the only shoe that people talk to me about when they talk about Hoka. that or the OG Clifton
Ran the Chicago Marathon in the Hoka Mach 5 and had zero blisters or foot pain. The regular Mach series will always be one of my favorites. Such a great value.
Heel striker and slow runner and love the Mach X2 ❤❤❤
My experiences are the opposite of Kofuzi quite often it seems lol I'm a bigger 200lb runner so maybe part of it. Love love this shoe at all paces actually and it fits me perfectly with little to no heel issue. I've tried so many of the top shoes and this along with skyward x also from Hoka have been fantastic. Among my two favs this year. Really haven't enjoyed Hoka for some years now but they're killing it lately.
Have had the Mach X2 since release day and it's an amazing shoe. Despite its race trim construction, it still feels good at slow paces. Not sure what Kofuzi means about the lack of bounce, because this shoe has plenty of it. I think it's the "training trim" version of the Cielo X1 as it presents a lot of similar qualities. Maybe it really doesn't suit his foot strike, but it's plenty bouncy, light, and quick, while still feeling good at easy pace. Great all around shoe that trends on the quicker end.
Like he said in the video. What might not work for him may very well work for others. Running styles is very different for everyone so his way may not be condusive of the bounce you are talking about while your running style may allow the bounce to manifest. If everyone had the same foot and running style, we don't need a variety of shoes.
@@strawberry_iced_donut Right. The reason for my comment is to let people know that there’s plenty of bounce/crumple/energy return in the shoe. The video almost puts a negative shine on the shoe altogether. It’s no knock on Kofuzi, but it’s a pretty great shoe despite him not even granting a place for it in the Hoka rotation at the end.
in *kofuzi's rotation at the end
excellent overview.., thank you for addressing the overlap between a lot of shoes, in not only the Hoka line, but many shoe brands.
I feel that some of these shoe brands could be not only more efficient, but could better serve the consumer, by not making it so confusing with so many shoes. Heck they (shoe brands), say that most of the ppl that purchase these running shoes, don't use them for running.
I love this shoe. This one gets the majority of my harder training days to go along with the Skyward X as my recovery shoe. I will maybe throw something in for shorter distance intervals, but this can handle that as well if needed. I've got some races to close out the year, and I've considered using this for some of them (don't worry, no one is concerned about me placing in an "illegal" shoe).
glad to hear that the Mach X2 / Skyward X is a good combo for you!
Hoka is the winner of year 2024.
ASICS is 😂
New Balance
For what reason? Funky Color ways ar least 🥴🥴
@@garychan4850 Noise on the Mach 6 and (maybe) speedgoat was all there was this year, meanwhile ASICS dropping banger after banger not to mention a strong presence on the Olympics marathon
Nimbus, cumulus, NB, SB, glideride 😜😜😜
The Wave Rebellion Flash 2 is my surprise shoe of the year. I works well for me. I mainly use it for easy daily training miles.
I got the Mach X 2 and I love it!!
Awesome!
I also see this as an easy choice for many to race in. Isn't it as light or lighter than the Cielo x 1? A cheaper race day option that would work quite well for many. Protective and fast. It could be a trainer and racer and also for me works for slower paces so versatile. When you consider all that the price all of a sudden seems quite good. I think it's a possible shoe of the year for those that don't have any issues with the heel. I don't think I'm crazy so think that from many reviews I've come across as well as my own experience.
I don't disagree. I just personally prefer the Mach 6 in each dimension you described.
But for those for whom the Mach 6 may be too unstable or too soft, the Mach X2 could certainly be a great race day option. that person would also likely have a completely different preferred Hoka rotation than I do.
True Accurate Review👌. I sent the mach x2 back to Hoka as it just doesn’t offer me anything different to my rotation. Trying out the topo specter 2 Tuesday after the UK release last week.
Hope you enjoy!
Good job, Kofuzi. Like from 🇪🇸 Spain. Happy monday.
Brooks - "we came out with a new shoe." HOKA - "Hold my beer."
funny. but technically, the Mach X2 came first. Glycerin Max doesn't even start shipping for another week or so.
I'm gonna sound like a Ronco rotisserie oven commercial but... Superblast: just set it, and forget it.
It's only $10 more.
This shoe does intrigue me, but I just don’t know that I need it in my current rotation, especially at that elevated price point. It looks to be a nice upgrade over the first version, however.
No Skyflow comparison? Interesting to hear how you’d view it compared to the Clifton.
I cannot compare it to a shoe I have not yet tried
It was kind of fun for me looking at just the noses of the various Hokas in your buying guide and guessing what was what lol.
I call it “baby version of Cielo X1”
Fits me in every run!😊
sad you didn't add the skyflow to the lineup
I have it but haven't tested it yet. if it's anything like the mach x2 or the skyward x, I don't think it would have mattered either way
but let me know where you'd think it would fit in my lineup
Random question of the day (possibly): do you review all shoes you're sent or do some not make it on screen?
Some don’t make it. I’m just one person
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for your review! This is exactly what I'm thinking if Magic Speed 4 or Mach X2. I love SKy Paris, this is my best racing shoe, better for me that Vaporfly 3, also love Superblast, Superblast is the king of supertrainers in my opinion. so Asics seems like company of the year :) That's why I'm maybe more leaning towards MGS4. IS that better for speed workouts than Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 as well? I loved ES3, byt version 4 seems to me less propulsive than version 3 and I think ES 2 was the best fit to wokrouts/tempo compared to later version 3 and now version 4. So looking for something instead of Saucony ES4. :) Thanks a lot.
I prefer the Endorphin Speed 4 to the Magic Speed 4, but I agree that I wish the Endorphin Speed 4 had a bit more pop to it. And as far as your rotation goes, I'd still go with the Endo Speed 4 and then reach for the Metaspeed Sky Paris for workouts that need it.
As a runner with marathon goal time is 4.00-4.25 hours, I am unsure I will get a full benefit of supershoes/racing shoe. Instead, I look for Supertrainer for my marathon, so I more excited to see the reviews of this range/class of shoe. Since X2 is too expensive for me (and yes, with the same price tag, I think I will look for another shoe), I got discounted price Mach X for about $127, so far so good for me, not as fast as Boston 12 or Endorphin Speed 3, but I feel it will be good enough for Marathon.
Also tried Mach 6 in the store, and I instantly knows why people love that shoe, might be will be on my list for the when the next iteration out.
Thanks. Love the honesty.
Thank you Mike.
I thought the Mach X was actually a great shoe. It was a good daily/long run trainer. Wouldn't call it a workout/race shoe but not a bad shoe as a whole
Brah. I got to add this to the collection. I have so much hoka gear now you'd swear I'm a sponsored athlete. But I'm not!
hope you enjoy!
Have a great race in Berlin. Go get that last ⭐!!!
You know it's going to be sketchy when Running Warehouse puts a warning on the shoes page. Have a good trip and race Ko
Gave me a nasty blister. They were sent back. Horrible design in the heel.
I bought X2 especially for the marathon (Warsaw). I have Pumas with carbon, but they seem too hard for such a distance and Novablast 3, but that's for slow runs. After 35 km @ 4:49 (first easy run) I don't feel a nice return of energy in the shoes, I have the impression that the cushioning absorbs everything. We'll see what happens on acceleration, I hope it improves, because otherwise it's money down the drain :/
How does this compare to the on cloudhyper?
I will assume you mean the cloudmonster hyper.
I find each of the shoes to be underwhelming, given the long list of premium of materials on each shoe's spec sheet. each shoe is also quite overpriced.
functionally, the Mach X2 is a daily trainer than can go fast whereas the Cloudmonster Hyper is a shoe that doesn't seem to enjoy going fast.
Thank you!
ouch Mach 6 over Mach X 2! :) Really usefull insight! But that makes it kind of completly redundant!
i just tried it on in a local store earlier today, and it’s quite narrow for my wideAss feet hahaha. they said there will be a wide version. any possible you can do a review on the width difference? or maybe anybody here know the width difference regular vs wide version?
I’m not sure how valuable that would be for me, other than to read off specs from a sheet.
I would recommend finding a wide foot reviewer
@@kofuzi thanks for the reply man. i actually just found out there is a wide option (2E) on the official website lol. awesome video as always!!
These shoes are fantastic and all, but my bank account is not compatible with them.
This shoe is forgiving for heel strikers...but not really for anyone else.
This or kinvara pro ??
The Kinvara Pro feels like a stability shoe to me, so for those reasons, I’m out
@@kofuzi thanks for the reply
12 seconds ago? well i guess i have to take a pause of work then
Hah. Just like what I felt a couple years ago. I liked the Mach 4 way more than the Mach X.
I ran 9 miles in the Mach X2 and got a lot of heel rubbing and a nasty blister. I see this is a common issue with this shoe. I returned them the next day. Shoe is great minus the heel. Super disappointed.
I wish more reviewers covered how soft the exterior of the upper was. Ha ha ha.
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