I've been very pleased with my DT 770 Pros 80 OHM version paired with a GOXLR Mini. Mostly use for gaming and they work great for this purpose in large part due to how comfortable they are even for extended periods of time.
I had the M50's for several years and they were great. Had to bend the top headband out because it squeezed a bit too much and gave me a headache after a couple hours of use. The headband also just started breaking down, so I had to get a cover, which also wasn't the most comfortable, but beat having little black pieces in my hair. lol I also upgraded to thicker, softer ear pads, which felt great, but felt like I lost a little bit of volume. I bought an Audient EVO 4 last year and decided to get the 770s (80 Ohm) and have had zero issues with them. They're incredibly comfortable and sound phenomenal. Even though the M50s are fantastic, I'd definitely recommend the 770s over them, personally!
I have an old pair of 770 Pro's, I've had them for about 16 years and they're still going strong. I've recently bought a pair of 1990 Pro's and these are wonderful for hearing fine detail in the mix and I've come to prefer them over the 770's but I use still use the older cans when I want to work for a long while as I find them less taxing on the ears.
My friend, I am eternally grateful for your helpful review. I'm new to your channel and glad to have found you. Keep up the good work. Good luck and all the best!
Thanks for your review. I'm a big fan of BD headphones. I have the DT 331 and before that I had the DT 330 MK II. Amazing comfort. I have a big head and large ears and I can wear them for hours over my glasses and feel no pain or fatigue at all.
Im on M50x just for piano playing and its ok but I tried to stay doing something in my DAW and after an hour and half I just couldn't take it. Very uncomfortable. But up to an hour or with significant break, great. Can't wait to try the 770. Cheers man. Great, right to the point stuff as always.
I’ve been using M50’s for almost 10 years for home studio audiobook recording. Been working exclusively from home for the past 4. Changed the ear pads. I like the sound. Louder than others I have. I’m listening for unwanted noises, so they are great for that. The shallow eat cup can start to hurt after a while. Feels like my ears are pressing on the speaker screen. But I wear them for 5-6 hour days.
the connection on the left side becomes loose and the left speaker stops working after some time, then I must dismantle the cable from the headset and connect it. then it works. is this the case with all audio technica m50x headsets?
how can you do that? I wear glasses, and however Iam pretty satisified with the sound of mx50, its just a pain in the ass after a half hour for my ears. @@1babyflix
I have the ATH-M50x and recently bought the DT 990 Pro (Open Back) because I like hearing the natural drums along with the headphone mix when performing or practicing, plus I can hear my boys playing while listening to content like this video.
I own both the M50s and 770 80 ohms. The 770s needed amping for my setup, but they are far better than M50s. Also the velour pads on the 770s are heaven compared to the M50s pads
I tried both( and also 30 something other headphones) m50s weren't even close to my consideration. As someone who works on a field ( film and tv recording), sennheiser hd25 and 26 are gold standard, but they are too uncomfortable for me ( I also have big head and big ears). Sound quality wise for my purposes next best thing was shure srh440( they don't have boosted low and high end, mids are reasonably precise, which is most important for recording dialogue) but they are of so bad build quality (mine broke after 10 days of use) that i had to find something else. at the end i have settled with the dt770s. build quality, reliability and comfort are top notch, but i had to accept some compromises in the sound department
I love both for tracking, no problems either way. I have had reliability issues with the 770s especially at the cable. DT 1990 for mixing and mastering are stellar.
what was your issue with the cable. they are great headphones and that bothers me. i wont have studio monitors soon so i really need dt770 soundstage as well.
I have had the DT 770's for 12 years. I have the smooth long cord (non-coil). I love them for everything in the studio and tracking. HD 280 Pro's are fabulous as well, I use those for my main headphones while browsing the internet on the laptop. They can double as great studio head phones if I have an artist tracking with the long corded DT 770's
280 pros sound good but man, they are uncomfortable to me. They are like putting my head in a vice! I've tried everything to loosen them up with no success. I use a pair of Steele Series for gaming and they are so comfortable. If you know of way to make the hd280's more comfortable, let me know.
I have both! Like you said, I think that it's easier to listen different elements in the track with DT's and the ear cups are superior. I just happen to have problems with referencing while using DT's because they sound so spacious. I absolutely love the spacious sound, but I have to check my mix with monitors and also in-ear plugs to get the right stereo image balance. Still loving them after six years and yea the ear fabric looks cursed after that time :D I use M50's only for DJ:ing. Cups have perfect rotation and the sound is so nice that I usually just love to jam with the headphones on when performing.
Listening to your video with a pair of DT770s. 80 ohm version that is plugged straight into my Mac without a separate amp. These are the most comfortable headphones I've ever used.
I love my M50. Own mine for 9 years and they still sound as the day I bought them. I was sold by the flat response. Love your videos. I have learned a lot from them. Thank you.
Currently using the M30x. You sold the DT 770s to me on the comfort sections. Insta buy, cause you know the same pain I've been living with while using the Audio Technicas. YES, them ears do hurt after a while. Thank you.
Thanks for doing the comparison. I totally agree with your findings. I have been using the DT 770 Pro for, like, 20 years now, and they have served me well. However, when the left channel went a couple of weeks ago I thought about repairing them, but the pair was so worn out and miserable that I decided to fork out the money for a replacement instead. Happily discovering that the DT 770 Pro was still in production, I went with those again without a second thought. I use the Sonarworks plugin for frequency correction, and it really makes a difference! Sonarworks has a generic correction curve readily available for a lot of headphones including the DT 770 Pro although you can get a pair of individually calibrated DT 770 Pro directly from Sonarworks with their own, unique calibration. Me being a happy amateur, and the calibrated DT 770 Pros being almost twice as expensive as a stock pair, I just decided to go with the 'standard' calibration - it works for me. Now I can get an unimaginable amount of sonic detail, even when mixing on headphones!
I've used the DT770 250 ohm for years. Awesome headphones that I can wear for days. Seriously, the number of times that I've forgotten they're even on my head till I get up and yank them. 1000% on the extension cable. An absolute must.
I have the 80-ohm DT 770 Pro and they sound great, comfy, and I really liked that spaced-out sound. Just makes sitting back in the chair and listening to a well-mastered track that much more enjoyable imo
@@Markisbeatz355 i had both and they both sound great and obviously it depends on you , but honestly for music production i had few big problems with dt770 250ohm that m50x solved them all
I have the DT1770 Pros. They're not the most comfortable for long sessions, changing pads is a bit of a nightmare, but they sound incredible. Like a.. tank.
I am a dialogue editor and using the AT and even though I like their response very much, it hurts my head when I have my glasses on :) so gotta agree with the comfort issue. Thanks for the video as always!
I have an M40x, very similar to the M50x, but has a flatter response. I love the sound. As you indicated in the video, the materials do not wear well, and the headphones are not comfortable. I pt a piece of foam over the headband, it was so bad. Another thing worth noting is that the removable cable has a non-standard plug so if the cable breaks, it's not a quick fix. UA-cam has some videos on how to get around this problem. For audio accuracy, I'd suggest the M40x, but definitely not for comfort.
Never used AT's.....previously bought Sennheiser HD 280 Pro's, and have had them for over 25 YRS! BUT last yr, I have TWO Pair of Beyerdynamic's, these 770's and also the 880's, the latter being Open Backed, and a much higher Ohm rate, so those take more power to run them. I also have an AKG HP4E headphone amp that has 4 inputs. I use the 770's for recording mostly, and the 880's for mixing and mastering......both are great, and you are correct. BOTH are very comfortable to wear. Just look at these two in your Video laying the table and you can guess which ones are more comfortable. Good video.....thanks.
I found the original earcups to fatigue my ears so I bought some much deeper memory foam ones and I no longer get that on-ear fatigue. The only downsides are less isolation and slightly higher chance of slipping off my head from the softer, less grippy earcups.
I own 990s and m50xs. I use them in parallel, but the m50x is way more fun to write on while the 990 pros are better for mixing. I use HS8s, 990 pros and m50xs
I have both also and comparing them for mixing reference I hear a flatter response on the 50, maybe due the 770’s case be made as a concave and this reflexes the hi mids a little. I compared it with the 990 open back and got shocked by the differences of flatness. But as you said it is important having two different references to compare when mixing. The comfort of 770 is way better than 50 indeed so on day by day use is my favorite.
I've been using my M50X for voiceover recording and mixing for the past 8 years and really enjoy them. However, I've always wanted to try Beyer Dynamic headphones but didn't like the attached cable. Now that they make the DT-700 Pro X with a detachable cable, I'm seriously considering getting a pair! Thank you for a comprehensive review!
@@jorden6153 Yes I do even though they emphasize bass frequencies. I tried the DT-700 Pro X headphones and really liked how they sound. However, the clamping force was too much and I couldn't wear them for very long and returned them. Very disappointing!
@@KeithCopeland778 hmmm alright, well thanks for letting me know! I’m trying to get in producing and mixing so I can make a song, but don’t know which pair of headphones is a good investment. I keep seeing that the ATHM50X is only good for monitoring and not producing and mixing
@@jorden6153 The best thing to do is find a store that will allow you to return headphones if they don't work out. That way, you can try out different headphones until you find the ones that you like.
Thank you for the upload. I too hated those pleather earpads and instead of getting new headphones i just got velour earpads and boom it wears nicely and it's less bassy, cleaner highs. Anyway. Earpads aren't super cheap so i also could have gone the whole hog and get some 770 pros. Maybe next time when i hot enough change
I have the DT770 250ohm. Comfortable, good quality build, good sound quality BUT they are anything but flat, as mentioned, That boost in the highs and some other quite non-flat frequencies means that you kind of need to compensate with some EQ for mixing.
I think both of them are just fine. For mixing, I use the Beyerdynamics almost exclusively now and leave the M50's for the vocalist to use when recording.
Thanks for the video! I had my m50s for about 5 years and 3 of them I used to hate them because of the comfort issues like what you've mentioned. Then, I got myself two sets of alternative earpads - one like those on 770s and another that is more like a foamy thick pillow - and I never noticed much fatigue ever since. 99% of time I use those 770s-style pads and they enhance both comfort and, to my liking, sound. Great stuff and a rather cheap upgrade.
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q Some really nice ones are Brainwavvz Prostock ear pads but they’re really pricey (for me at least). A great cheaper alternative would be ZMF cowhide pads. Otherwise, you could literally just stretch out the stock ear pads overnight.
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q not really, i've basically searched for m50 earpads on aliexpress and picked ones that seemed best in terms of looks, expected feel and effect, seller reliability and reviews
I recently switched to the 770s 250o coming from the akg 701s. Because of the flatter frequency response managing bass levels is much easier on the 770s. Sound in de mid-upperrange is a bid harsher so for general listening is still use the Akg.
I use a couple of them for, as you mentioned, different tasks. My on the road was and still is the BeyerDynamic DT150. They are loud and isolating the noise very well, even though i bought them in 1997! And as you said, over ears so lang time use is no problem at all. For studio i switch between the M50 and DT770 but my honest opinion, i prefer the DT770 over the M50. The Audio Technica sounds a little more "bassy" and could give some false information about the sound. So i use those only in settings i know the sound is correct using TX line audio processing. For use at recordings for radio, television and tracks i use the DT770. However, for track recording it's better to use the loudspeakers over headphones. So in short, my daily driver is still the DT770 and for occasional use i take the M50's.
I added a band cover and rolled up a car shami cloth for extra padding. This did two things....added padding and comfort at top, but also made me use more a larger band adjustment which made these pads more comfortable on my head. As far as the pads, I don't know.....my ears fit great into these pads and it sounds great to me. Seem pretty comfortable and I have large ears.
Hi, I've had the M50s for about as long as you. I believe this is the version before yours because the "X" version came out slightly after I bought these. They are my go-to in the studio, primarily because of what you eluded to in that they are flat. When it's too late to use the reference monitors, I can actually mix with the M50s and amazingly, the next morning, the reference speakers sound precisely the same, with the exception of lower bass response. I have smaller ears so the cups are very comfortable. They show very little wear and as you mentioned, still sound like the first week after burn-in. The only difference I can see between these and the "X" model is the removable cord. If these ever broke, I'd get a new pair. Originally got them on sale for 99.00.
Agree with the “on ear” comment for the ATs. My pads were dying so I just replaced them with a thicker pad which pulled them off of my ears. It made them WAAAAY more comfortable. As I am primarily a live guy these fit my bill more than the 770s. Really though? Can’t go wrong with either.
I've been using the DT 770 250ohm as my only studio headphones for about a year now. I just bought the ATH-M50x intending them to just be my listening headphones while I travel. But now I use the 770s for writing, and both for mixing. I find the ATH give me a better grasp of the bass on most systems. While the 770 is great for when you need to reign in the highs
Great video! I have one question: Do the new M50s sound different from the 8-year old ones? By the way, I've been using the DT-990 Pros 250 and the M50x. The 990s are my go-to, but the M50s are my sssssssiblance-detector.
I've been using my 240DFs for 22 years and they still work perfectly and the surrounds haven't cracked or gotten sticky. They work for me but I wouldn't suggest others use them because, most likely, they wouldn't know how to use them for refining a mix. I switch in Tonebooster's Morphit now and then but, honestly, ''flat'' doesn't sound right in diffuse field phones, just bassier which does NOT help me to narrow in on 500hz-5.5khz or listen for cymbal/transient chirping or verb artifacts up beyond 8k. As for mixing 100% with headphones or expecting them to replace monitors, I don't see the point in not saving up a little more money and just getting a pair of Austrian Audio Hi-X50s or, preferably, X65s (I would go X65 due to their being DF). But, I get it, the DT 770 Pro is this decade's KRK (I'M YELLOW, LOOK AT ME, I'M YELLOW!) monitors, they should all come with a 1-way ticket to Jonestown, GY. I've never had such a need to feel accepted.
I didn't get the 770s because of many reports a read of the left channel going out. I ramped up a bit, and got the DT 880 Pros, and they sound good and are very comfortable,
Funny, comparisons are similar in stats with the BehringerHPX4000 and the Tascam TH-02 (which are not even close to the two you compared, but the comparison criteria are virtually the same!) I like the TH-2 because of the comfort. Leaning to get the DT 770's as my next jump!
@@akshayjuneja1987 also, there are more expensive high quality ones made specifically for AT-M50x, from Dekoni and Wicked Cushions, Brainwavz. Can't go wrong with any of them!
I forgot to mention that one of the reasons they are so great is the thickness and density of the padding, plus the size of the opening - it keep your ears farther from the drivers and creates a lot more space.
I've used the dt770 pro (250ohm) for about 13 years until I moved to a free standing house where I could use speakers without bothering my neighbours 3 years ago. During the 13 years I've also bought the sennheuser hd595 that's a little lighter and airy, due the the open backed design vs closed design of the 770. The 595 is so light you often forget it's there. I used it on a diy headphone amp that could drive 600 ohm loads. The 770 could play so loud without distortion that you'd blow your ears off without noticing it, truly an on stage headphones. The 770 base is detailed and well defined, on the hd595 too but it's slightly thinner but very close. Later I bought the dt770 80 ohms as I used one pair in the living room and one on the go with my smartphone, at work and upstairs. It's hard to distinguish between the 250 and 80 ohms, pretty much equal to me on a headphone amp. But on 32 ohm devices the 80 ohms has stronger base and plays higher volumes. The 770 250 developed a crackle at loud base sounds so I tried cleaning it first (hairs stuck under the pad could cause resonances) But it did't help. I'd have to replace the drivers to fix it. They are still available, as are most of the parts like shells, the headband, cables etc. It'scalways a good sign when headphones have replacement parts available, though they're quite expensive. 2 drivers sets me back about 2/3 of the cost of new pair of headphones. Those velour pads last about 2 years until they are too soft and grime up. You'll feel the inner pads against your ears at that point which caused some irritation. You can't wash them, they loose their stiffness and fall apart. The sennheiser hd595 has fewer parts available, and the pads could only be found on Aliexpress and were pretty good. The head band padding fell apart on the 770 250 as well due to traveling with it in the first few years, got banged up pretty badly but still survived. I replaced all the padding and it was like new after 13 years! There are leather pads available as well, for better isolation. Straight and coiled cables are available, but takes some soldering to install. After I moved i prefer my diy speakers (visaton 3 way drivers, softdomes for high and mid, glassfiber for low). The sound is much better compared to these headphones. Due to covid I work from home and don't travel that much. I havea pair of etymotic hf5 in ear headphones as well. Base a bit weak but is otherwise excellent and even better noise cancellation. After listening to the 770 again recently I've found the highs slightly fatiging campared to my speaker set. I can't listen at higher volumes for longer than half an hour while I could listen for hours with the speakers. When new the highs are even stronger so breaking them in at high volume is a must.
It's always so funny to me how subjective the perception of headphones is. I compared the two for my purposes (electric guitar recording) and I prefer the ATs for both sound and comfort. Plus, I ALWAYS wedge the flesh at the top of my fingers in the hinge mechanism of the BD DTs. It's as if they come cursed for me.
4:34 about the M50x lack of earpad comfort that makes you switch to Beyer, yes agree. And that's the reason I change the earpad with a bigger "hole" on earpad like the Brainwavz, it can be paired with M50x, and my ears sits comfortably inside that earpad without any fatigue. It no longer be a on ear headphones but real over ear headphones.
I agree, the comfort of the M50s is probably it's biggest setback. Thankfully that's an easy fix, I got soft, Velvet replacement cups which boosted the comfort and did not change the sound of the headphone
As a M50X/M50XBT user (audio monitoring, general use) the stock pads I've never used for more than I think 2 days then I switched to flat leather/suade/hybrid pads (7USD each on aliexpress) are the reason I keep 3 pairs of these handy is each set of pads has a different alteration to the sound profile, now one thing I have to recommend is get hearing tests done properly before buying any headphones as knowing your physical data sheet allows you to be-able to judge equipment without having gaping blindspots. In my 7 years of using them headbands get replaced every 1-1.5 years just a simple de-solder job, pads every year or xmas you can wash pads but the PU sheads too fast. One thing I will note is 2.5mm locking was changed to 3.5mm non-locking and gen 1 BT is micro USB and gen 2 BT is type-c for power and these do hold charge for months and do last 2-3 days of use but BT is useless on windows directly so external transmitters are needed if you want to use it (I just have patch in points around the room for cables) though on macos and linux I've had pretty fluid experience with BT but its slightly lacking the depth of direct copper to a DAC. I will note here these are really easy sets to modify for balanced input. Now I will say the M50X are terrible for portability, personally I use a pair of pelter comtacts with geal pads and BT IEMs normally airpod pros when its just out and about this provides 100% sound isolation due to air gap, but full 360 position mapped amplified outside audio without taking the headphones off peltors are great for hearing protection with cut off ranges, I have wanted to make a pair with M50X drivers but its one of those long term some day projects.
I am using the M50XBT2. After replacing the upgraded headphone cable with an earphone amplifier, it not only listens to music at home, but also makes travel (Bluetooth) and entertainment more convenient.
Si solo los quiero para disfrutar la música en mi celular cual de esos es mejor? Se que no están hechos para eso, pero quiero saber cual de esos dos seria mejor para escuchar musica
Currently own the TYGR 300rs ams love them, wanna go with a closed back option aswell probably gonna go with the 770 Pro 80 ohms, since I heard they have nice boomy fast hitting sub bass. And dont sound muddy
They make larger pads for the M50s for less than $20 that are much bigger than the originals and it actually improved the sound isolation and also the bass response. Much much better seal after I upgraded those pads.
Yeah I've gotten my ear pads from Wicked Cushions purely for comfort reasons. They also sell some covers for the headbands which stops them from becoming all flakey over time.
I have a fairly big head and the M50s are the most comfortable headphones I have ever used. They are also much more biased where the Beyerdynamics are a bit bright - might be good for trying to hear things, but I would never use them for a final mix. That said I was thinking of switching my casual listening set over to the DT 770 Pro but in this day in age if I am spending over $50 on headphones, they should have a detachable cable although my original M50s with the original cable did last me 14 years.
I haven’t tried both, but own the ATH-40X and it was great until I tried the YAMAHA MT5 and bought the MT8. The MT8 has a very balanced response with some brilliance
I have em both straight from sweetwater...Thru the universal audio twin duo...the beyerdynamic is way more comfortable when keeping em on but dont pack the punch the mx 50 does..Both great but been using the audio technicas more
When I tested m40x (pretty same as m50x but flatter) and dt 770 the detail in 770 was far superior compared to m40x, but the dt were also more colored than m40x so I went with m40x. I already had couple hifi systems in home, so I didnt need another one
I have both... but recently I add to my "collection" the Sennheiser HD 560s which to me overcomes them both. Very neutral while musical and detailed, with a great soundstage and very comfortable as well. Just a bit more expensive, but definetely it's worth.
Aren't they open back? Do they leak a lot of sound? My setup is in the living room and I'm in a 1bedroom apartment. Will that disturb my roommate? Also because my conversations with my friends aren't always pg (and the games I play)
@@traderboi3954 they are open back, but the HD 569 version is closed-back. From what I can tell they seem the same in all other ways but I could be wrong.
I went with the M50's and just brought a pair of WC(Wicked Cusions) replacement ear pads. They are way softer/thicker and I haven't noticed any audio difference. Because they are bigger they don't hurt my ears.
I own both of these, I wear glasses, and I live in a significantly tropical climate where heat and humidity is high over a third of the year. The ear pads of the 'pleather' are inferior to the plush, however you can easily halve or quarter the timeframes for longevity mentioned on both of these in this environment. One other thing I should mention is that the rubber/plastic sheaths on the thin wiring of the DT770 80hms quickly deteriorates after a certain point in this climatic setting. That said, electrical tape and silicon wrap has temporarily fixed this in an inelegant, but effective, manner on my DT770s. I'm really pleased with the sound quality of both of these, however neither are really built to last in a tropical clime. Thankfully, both companies provide spare parts. Overall, I still tend towards the DT770 80Ohms as my preferred option if wired, but the bluetooth version of the MX50x definitely has advantages in non-critical listening environments. I should point out that I use Sonarworks Reference software (non-sponsored) for each of these to balance out any ingrained idiosyncrasies that come with each headphone when mixing/mastering.
My DT770 250 ohm connected to JDS Labs Atom amp connected to Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 connected to a PC using (customized) oratory1990 impulse response loaded in Equalizer APO is extremely good at everything.
I went through around 10 different styles of cheapo chinese earpads to find ones that fix the discomfort of the m50x's while still sounding nice. I ended up with these leather pads that are an inch tall and really thick with narrow conical insides, which eliminated most of the reverb I found in other large leather pads. They can be pretty sweaty, but really comfortable otherwise.
Beyerdynamic for me 770 & 990 at both 80 and 250 ohms so two pair for the chair and four pairs for the talent, the 990s are nice for e-drummers and for some mixing but usually I mix with my genelec near field
Sony MDR-7506 are my go tos for the natural sound they give. I have the AT M50 and M40. Both are still great as I use them for monitoring my acoustic drum kit.
I have the Sony MDR-7509s. I'm guessing they're similar to yours. But I much prefer the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250ohms, though it's nice to have various pairs for reference when mixing.
Correction: I actually do have 7506s too. They're in my Ultraphone headsets which I highly recommend (the drummer for the Steve Miller band made a company where he put the 7506 insides into an ear protection headset. Great for drummers as it blocks basically all sound)
Thanks for the info Kyle! I use the Sennheiser 280HD Pro, because I've invested enough on speakers & room treatment, so they are reference only for tweaking & going on the road. I constantly try to give students this kind of comparisons so they can choose according to their needs and goals. Audiotechnica, Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic are probably the best entry headphones (that will be useful for years) one can get. Have you tried Focal, or Adam?
Thank you Sir, informative. I've been wondering what to get as a second headset for recording. I currently use 770 Pros 80 ohm with good amplification (Arcam A8). I used to use Sennheiser Professional HD 25 as they have a great balance, however they do not match up for longevity, they have an odd two prong plug to each driver, that ends up not working, DO NOT get the HD 25, they don't last even though they sound more accurate, sorry, you have no idea where I'm coming from. As a professional recording engineer (retired).
I've had the ATH-M50x for a couple years now and they started to hurt my head so baddddd + the velvet / velour cushions we had to buy separetly is unusable ... full of hairs and craps that won,t go away even after loads of cleaning... I'm getting the DT 770 Pro for my birthday and cannot wait to try them !
I use the DT 770 Pro (80 Ohms) with the Mayflower ARC MK2 on my desktop PC and really enjoy them. Sometimes it feels tight on my head but I really enjoy the sound it produces. I would just adjust the headphones slightly and it's fine, then repeat.
I have tried the DT 770 Pro in both 80 and 250 Ohm. Recommended them a few times to happy recipients who prefer listening to music like Jazz or Classical Music. Also tried a few Sennheisers, Sonys, Koss, Bose and Bower Wilkins Headphones just to mention a few that are either a popular choice or really good on their own. Notable mention... the Koss Porta Pros always amaze me as a compact on Ear Headphone. But back to those two legendary Headphones ... i just bought my third pair of M50s ... my second one beeing the BT2 Variant ...which truly sounds like it is indeed wired... if you use LDAC 960kbps. My original pair of M50s was now 14 years old and i have used it at least a few hours every day... at home, on the go ... just always. Why did i replace them for a new pair of M50 (in the M50x Gunmetal variant :))? Because they sound so much more fun... they work for films, also Jazz and Classical Music ... although the sound stage is not nearly as wide as on the DT 770 Pros or the DT990 for that matter and the clarity is also not as defined. But exactly this clarity is for my preferred types of music too much, too airy,... i love that DnB, Techno, Rap and Trap or any type of EDM sounds like you are in the club. Huge Speaker style bass, nothing distorted, nice but tight soundstage that can become quite a bit wider with the proper recording. This btw. also makes them quite useable for fast FPS Shooter Games... positional audio is still decent while explosions sound like real explosions. Airier Headphones or the good sounding but very fragile Steelseries Headsets do not reproduce mids and especially low frequencies quite punchy but still not overexposed like the M50 do. Back to my final Audio verdict as i drifted over to why i also like to use them for really everything else. I like my audio clean, neutral and undistorted but still dirty, so when the fat baseline hits, it really hits you. So i have the peace in mind that i do not care if i listen to Simon & Garfunkel, Lil John, A$AP Rocky, The Prodigy, John Spencer Blues Explosion, ELO, Justice, Die Antwoord, Dj Shadow, Slipknot, Trampsta, Massive Attack, Dj Fresh, Autechre, Chicago, Schoolboy Q and whatnot... it all just sounds so right. Not only clean but also fun. Mind you the DT 770s will manage to play quite a few of these Artists just fine too,... but take the song Bassline Junkie from Dizzee Rascal ... the bass will not "be buzzin" on the DT 770 Pros ... so that is definately a song that sounds just weird on the DT-770 Pro. John Spencer also sounds in general nicer on the M50s although the DT770 also do a good job but they do create a different experience for the listener. So if you want a "always on" wide soundstage with pristine separation (perfect to dissect every single instrument track) and brilliant treble ... go get the DT 770 Pro´s ... they do feel more comfortable and a bit more premium. But i just cannot quit the M50s ... they sound so much more fun to me and when i need some bangers instead of the 4th coffee... the DT 770 just do not cut it. Comfort was a problem in the end with my 14 year old ones ... but both new ones feel really nice. At the very first day i should have given the Headband a little strech as the fit will hurt after a few hours if you have a rather big head like me. Now a few days in this does not bother me. Quite curious ... the Earpads from the BT2DS Variant are quite noticeable softer and feel really nice throughout a 10 hours office day (Mic is really really good for Teams and i can dual pair my phone and notebook). Still the M50 Earpads will be comfortable enough, even for longer sessions as long as they are fresh, be sure to replace them as soon as you feel the inner cup putting pressure on your ears. There are also quite a few high quality after market earcups available for the M50s ... but that sounds like a research of its own which i have been too lazy to do yet.
Great review! 👍🏻 Thanx a lot. Just a tiny little remark from a native German: "Beyer" in the brandname "Beyerdynamic" is pronounced like "fire", not like "layer". I hope it is clear what I mean 😊😇.
I'm looking to upgrade from KRK headphones to the DT 770s soon, the KRKs were the only ones available at my local music store so I got em, I only use em for making beats
BD DT-990 Edition 250, but I don't work in audio domain, just an enthusiast that likes clarity (First pair where replaced because of a defect in left HP after one year of use)
I've been very pleased with my DT 770 Pros 80 OHM version paired with a GOXLR Mini.
Mostly use for gaming and they work great for this purpose in large part due to how comfortable they are even for extended periods of time.
I had the M50's for several years and they were great. Had to bend the top headband out because it squeezed a bit too much and gave me a headache after a couple hours of use. The headband also just started breaking down, so I had to get a cover, which also wasn't the most comfortable, but beat having little black pieces in my hair. lol I also upgraded to thicker, softer ear pads, which felt great, but felt like I lost a little bit of volume. I bought an Audient EVO 4 last year and decided to get the 770s (80 Ohm) and have had zero issues with them. They're incredibly comfortable and sound phenomenal. Even though the M50s are fantastic, I'd definitely recommend the 770s over them, personally!
I have an old pair of 770 Pro's, I've had them for about 16 years and they're still going strong. I've recently bought a pair of 1990 Pro's and these are wonderful for hearing fine detail in the mix and I've come to prefer them over the 770's but I use still use the older cans when I want to work for a long while as I find them less taxing on the ears.
My friend, I am eternally grateful for your helpful review. I'm new to your channel and glad to have found you. Keep up the good work. Good luck and all the best!
Thanks for your review. I'm a big fan of BD headphones. I have the DT 331 and before that I had the DT 330 MK II. Amazing comfort. I have a big head and large ears and I can wear them for hours over my glasses and feel no pain or fatigue at all.
Im on M50x just for piano playing and its ok but I tried to stay doing something in my DAW and after an hour and half I just couldn't take it. Very uncomfortable. But up to an hour or with significant break, great.
Can't wait to try the 770.
Cheers man. Great, right to the point stuff as always.
I’ve been using M50’s for almost 10 years for home studio audiobook recording. Been working exclusively from home for the past 4. Changed the ear pads. I like the sound. Louder than others I have. I’m listening for unwanted noises, so they are great for that. The shallow eat cup can start to hurt after a while. Feels like my ears are pressing on the speaker screen. But I wear them for 5-6 hour days.
I have used these headphones for ever as well. I changed the earcups to larger ones and now finally i can wear them all day without any pain
the connection on the left side becomes loose and the left speaker stops working after some time, then I must dismantle the cable from the headset and connect it. then it works. is this the case with all audio technica m50x headsets?
How long before the m50x started flaking at the top? I know you can replace the ear pieces but can you replace the top??
how can you do that? I wear glasses, and however Iam pretty satisified with the sound of mx50, its just a pain in the ass after a half hour for my ears.
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I have the ATH-M50x and recently bought the DT 990 Pro (Open Back) because I like hearing the natural drums along with the headphone mix when performing or practicing, plus I can hear my boys playing while listening to content like this video.
love your tutorials Sir, got both , and having both is extremely useful for the reasons you've pointed out precisely 👍
I own both the M50s and 770 80 ohms. The 770s needed amping for my setup, but they are far better than M50s. Also the velour pads on the 770s are heaven compared to the M50s pads
an lg v40 50 or 60 phone can power them no problem the quad dac is outstanding with them and lossless stream apps
same here, I sold the M50s
You can buy velours for the m50s?
I tried both( and also 30 something other headphones) m50s weren't even close to my consideration. As someone who works on a field ( film and tv recording), sennheiser hd25 and 26 are gold standard, but they are too uncomfortable for me ( I also have big head and big ears). Sound quality wise for my purposes next best thing was shure srh440( they don't have boosted low and high end, mids are reasonably precise, which is most important for recording dialogue) but they are of so bad build quality (mine broke after 10 days of use) that i had to find something else. at the end i have settled with the dt770s. build quality, reliability and comfort are top notch, but i had to accept some compromises in the sound department
How do you know if you need an amp or not?
I love both for tracking, no problems either way. I have had reliability issues with the 770s especially at the cable. DT 1990 for mixing and mastering are stellar.
what was your issue with the cable. they are great headphones and that bothers me. i wont have studio monitors soon so i really need dt770 soundstage as well.
I have had the DT 770's for 12 years. I have the smooth long cord (non-coil). I love them for everything in the studio and tracking. HD 280 Pro's are fabulous as well, I use those for my main headphones while browsing the internet on the laptop. They can double as great studio head phones if I have an artist tracking with the long corded DT 770's
280 pros sound good but man, they are uncomfortable to me. They are like putting my head in a vice! I've tried everything to loosen them up with no success. I use a pair of Steele Series for gaming and they are so comfortable. If you know of way to make the hd280's more comfortable, let me know.
@@tommaxwell429same dude, the clamping just doesn't go away!
I have both! Like you said, I think that it's easier to listen different elements in the track with DT's and the ear cups are superior. I just happen to have problems with referencing while using DT's because they sound so spacious. I absolutely love the spacious sound, but I have to check my mix with monitors and also in-ear plugs to get the right stereo image balance. Still loving them after six years and yea the ear fabric looks cursed after that time :D
I use M50's only for DJ:ing. Cups have perfect rotation and the sound is so nice that I usually just love to jam with the headphones on when performing.
Who is better for house music ? Thanks !
its the most ambitious cans ive heard, kind of ie900 in highend area
You made my day, thank you for sharing!
very clear and well made video, thank you my friend!
Listening to your video with a pair of DT770s. 80 ohm version that is plugged straight into my Mac without a separate amp. These are the most comfortable headphones I've ever used.
I love my M50. Own mine for 9 years and they still sound as the day I bought them. I was sold by the flat response. Love your videos. I have learned a lot from them. Thank you.
they are far from flat, m40x is better and 770 way better
@@soulfulfool or heck the m20x is even the most flat closed back audio technica make
@@Omar_ZX I believe m20 is better m50 is just awful but anyway open back headphones are the best
Currently using the M30x. You sold the DT 770s to me on the comfort sections. Insta buy, cause you know the same pain I've been living with while using the Audio Technicas. YES, them ears do hurt after a while. Thank you.
Very good voice and clear speech ....good job bro 💯
the production quality on this is insane thumbs up
Thanks for watching!
AKG K371 are a steal when it comes to quality Vs price and they are super comfy. I spend most of my day wearing them.
curious to hear a comparison between Audio Technica's ATH M70x vs Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro! Great video in any case :)
So helpful, thank you
Thanks for doing the comparison. I totally agree with your findings. I have been using the DT 770 Pro for, like, 20 years now, and they have served me well. However, when the left channel went a couple of weeks ago I thought about repairing them, but the pair was so worn out and miserable that I decided to fork out the money for a replacement instead. Happily discovering that the DT 770 Pro was still in production, I went with those again without a second thought. I use the Sonarworks plugin for frequency correction, and it really makes a difference! Sonarworks has a generic correction curve readily available for a lot of headphones including the DT 770 Pro although you can get a pair of individually calibrated DT 770 Pro directly from Sonarworks with their own, unique calibration. Me being a happy amateur, and the calibrated DT 770 Pros being almost twice as expensive as a stock pair, I just decided to go with the 'standard' calibration - it works for me. Now I can get an unimaginable amount of sonic detail, even when mixing on headphones!
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
I've used the DT770 250 ohm for years. Awesome headphones that I can wear for days. Seriously, the number of times that I've forgotten they're even on my head till I get up and yank them. 1000% on the extension cable. An absolute must.
Do you a recommendation for an headphone amp ? I bought one at 50 ? Im not sure if it s good enough,, tx
I have the 80-ohm DT 770 Pro and they sound great, comfy, and I really liked that spaced-out sound. Just makes sitting back in the chair and listening to a well-mastered track that much more enjoyable imo
Hi! Which in you opinion has a better sound because I am thinking to buy and cant decide between these two. Sooo are 770 better than m50x or not?
@@Markisbeatz355 i had both and they both sound great and obviously it depends on you , but honestly for music production i had few big problems with dt770 250ohm that m50x solved them all
I have the DT1770 Pros. They're not the most comfortable for long sessions, changing pads is a bit of a nightmare, but they sound incredible. Like a.. tank.
I am a dialogue editor and using the AT and even though I like their response very much, it hurts my head when I have my glasses on :) so gotta agree with the comfort issue. Thanks for the video as always!
Thanks, Ozgen!
I have an M40x, very similar to the M50x, but has a flatter response. I love the sound. As you indicated in the video, the materials do not wear well, and the headphones are not comfortable. I pt a piece of foam over the headband, it was so bad. Another thing worth noting is that the removable cable has a non-standard plug so if the cable breaks, it's not a quick fix. UA-cam has some videos on how to get around this problem. For audio accuracy, I'd suggest the M40x, but definitely not for comfort.
Never used AT's.....previously bought Sennheiser HD 280 Pro's, and have had them for over 25 YRS! BUT last yr, I have TWO Pair of Beyerdynamic's, these 770's and also the 880's, the latter being Open Backed, and a much higher Ohm rate, so those take more power to run them. I also have an AKG HP4E headphone amp that has 4 inputs. I use the 770's for recording mostly, and the 880's for mixing and mastering......both are great, and you are correct. BOTH are very comfortable to wear. Just look at these two in your Video laying the table and you can guess which ones are more comfortable. Good video.....thanks.
I found the original earcups to fatigue my ears so I bought some much deeper memory foam ones and I no longer get that on-ear fatigue. The only downsides are less isolation and slightly higher chance of slipping off my head from the softer, less grippy earcups.
great info
Very nicely done.
Thank you. Most helpfull video.
Great breakdown, thanks!
I own 990s and m50xs. I use them in parallel, but the m50x is way more fun to write on while the 990 pros are better for mixing. I use HS8s, 990 pros and m50xs
Good stuff bro.
i love my AKG N90Q's so much, I bought a second pair to keep in my home studio.
Thank you for your channel!
As of these headphones - definitely the 770s, the bass is just incredible, and they are far more comfortable for long use.
Thanks, @na4ito!
Ath m50x has better bass, okey DT has A BIT cleaner sound but for electronic music ath is much better, DT are good for classic music🤮🤮. Only EDM
Buuut both of them are really great
I was literally looking to buy one of these 2 this weekend. Impeccable timing. Thanks again as always
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
I have both also and comparing them for mixing reference I hear a flatter response on the 50, maybe due the 770’s case be made as a concave and this reflexes the hi mids a little. I compared it with the 990 open back and got shocked by the differences of flatness. But as you said it is important having two different references to compare when mixing. The comfort of 770 is way better than 50 indeed so on day by day use is my favorite.
I've been using my M50X for voiceover recording and mixing for the past 8 years and really enjoy them. However, I've always wanted to try Beyer Dynamic headphones but didn't like the attached cable. Now that they make the DT-700 Pro X with a detachable cable, I'm seriously considering getting a pair! Thank you for a comprehensive review!
how do you like them, do you think they're good for producing and mixing
@@jorden6153 Yes I do even though they emphasize bass frequencies. I tried the DT-700 Pro X headphones and really liked how they sound. However, the clamping force was too much and I couldn't wear them for very long and returned them. Very disappointing!
@@KeithCopeland778 hmmm alright, well thanks for letting me know! I’m trying to get in producing and mixing so I can make a song, but don’t know which pair of headphones is a good investment. I keep seeing that the ATHM50X is only good for monitoring and not producing and mixing
@@jorden6153 The best thing to do is find a store that will allow you to return headphones if they don't work out. That way, you can try out different headphones until you find the ones that you like.
I'm surprised it took you so long to switch, given your knowledge. Here I am with little knowledge and it was no contest for me when buying my dt770s
Thank you for the upload. I too hated those pleather earpads and instead of getting new headphones i just got velour earpads and boom it wears nicely and it's less bassy, cleaner highs. Anyway. Earpads aren't super cheap so i also could have gone the whole hog and get some 770 pros. Maybe next time when i hot enough change
I have the DT770 250ohm. Comfortable, good quality build, good sound quality BUT they are anything but flat, as mentioned, That boost in the highs and some other quite non-flat frequencies means that you kind of need to compensate with some EQ for mixing.
I think both of them are just fine. For mixing, I use the Beyerdynamics almost exclusively now and leave the M50's for the vocalist to use when recording.
I have been using the beyerdynamic dt770 pro 32 ohms version with my computer and they sound amazing
Thanks for the video! I had my m50s for about 5 years and 3 of them I used to hate them because of the comfort issues like what you've mentioned. Then, I got myself two sets of alternative earpads - one like those on 770s and another that is more like a foamy thick pillow - and I never noticed much fatigue ever since. 99% of time I use those 770s-style pads and they enhance both comfort and, to my liking, sound. Great stuff and a rather cheap upgrade.
Please post a link for the culture
@@user-mb8rf7qk5qUnfortunately, UA-cam deletes links so he wouldn't be able to.
Specific website or company you ordered them from?
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q Some really nice ones are Brainwavvz Prostock ear pads but they’re really pricey (for me at least). A great cheaper alternative would be ZMF cowhide pads. Otherwise, you could literally just stretch out the stock ear pads overnight.
@@user-mb8rf7qk5q not really, i've basically searched for m50 earpads on aliexpress and picked ones that seemed best in terms of looks, expected feel and effect, seller reliability and reviews
I recently switched to the 770s 250o coming from the akg 701s. Because of the flatter frequency response managing bass levels is much easier on the 770s. Sound in de mid-upperrange is a bid harsher so for general listening is still use the Akg.
I use a couple of them for, as you mentioned, different tasks. My on the road was and still is the BeyerDynamic DT150. They are loud and isolating the noise very well, even though i bought them in 1997! And as you said, over ears so lang time use is no problem at all. For studio i switch between the M50 and DT770 but my honest opinion, i prefer the DT770 over the M50. The Audio Technica sounds a little more "bassy" and could give some false information about the sound. So i use those only in settings i know the sound is correct using TX line audio processing. For use at recordings for radio, television and tracks i use the DT770. However, for track recording it's better to use the loudspeakers over headphones. So in short, my daily driver is still the DT770 and for occasional use i take the M50's.
I added a band cover and rolled up a car shami cloth for extra padding. This did two things....added padding and comfort at top, but also made me use more a larger band adjustment which made these pads more comfortable on my head. As far as the pads, I don't know.....my ears fit great into these pads and it sounds great to me. Seem pretty comfortable and I have large ears.
So helpful. Tjanks
Hi,
I've had the M50s for about as long as you. I believe this is the version before yours because the "X" version came out slightly after I bought these. They are my go-to in the studio, primarily because of what you eluded to in that they are flat. When it's too late to use the reference monitors, I can actually mix with the M50s and amazingly, the next morning, the reference speakers sound precisely the same, with the exception of lower bass response. I have smaller ears so the cups are very comfortable. They show very little wear and as you mentioned, still sound like the first week after burn-in.
The only difference I can see between these and the "X" model is the removable cord.
If these ever broke, I'd get a new pair. Originally got them on sale for 99.00.
Thank You man❤️
Glad to help.
Wish you did something on open backs... Great video regardless.
Thanks, Albert! That’s a good idea for a future video.
Be good to hear more about the ohms options
Agree with the “on ear” comment for the ATs. My pads were dying so I just replaced them with a thicker pad which pulled them off of my ears. It made them WAAAAY more comfortable. As I am primarily a live guy these fit my bill more than the 770s. Really though? Can’t go wrong with either.
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
I've been using the DT 770 250ohm as my only studio headphones for about a year now.
I just bought the ATH-M50x intending them to just be my listening headphones while I travel. But now I use the 770s for writing, and both for mixing. I find the ATH give me a better grasp of the bass on most systems. While the 770 is great for when you need to reign in the highs
Which amplifier do you use for DT 770 250ohm if I may ask?
Great video! I have one question: Do the new M50s sound different from the 8-year old ones? By the way, I've been using the DT-990 Pros 250 and the M50x. The 990s are my go-to, but the M50s are my sssssssiblance-detector.
I've been using my 240DFs for 22 years and they still work perfectly and the surrounds haven't cracked or gotten sticky. They work for me but I wouldn't suggest others use them because, most likely, they wouldn't know how to use them for refining a mix. I switch in Tonebooster's Morphit now and then but, honestly, ''flat'' doesn't sound right in diffuse field phones, just bassier which does NOT help me to narrow in on 500hz-5.5khz or listen for cymbal/transient chirping or verb artifacts up beyond 8k. As for mixing 100% with headphones or expecting them to replace monitors, I don't see the point in not saving up a little more money and just getting a pair of Austrian Audio Hi-X50s or, preferably, X65s (I would go X65 due to their being DF). But, I get it, the DT 770 Pro is this decade's KRK (I'M YELLOW, LOOK AT ME, I'M YELLOW!) monitors, they should all come with a 1-way ticket to Jonestown, GY. I've never had such a need to feel accepted.
I didn't get the 770s because of many reports a read of the left channel going out. I ramped up a bit, and got the DT 880 Pros, and they sound good and are very comfortable,
Funny, comparisons are similar in stats with the BehringerHPX4000 and the Tascam TH-02 (which are not even close to the two you compared, but the comparison criteria are virtually the same!) I like the TH-2 because of the comfort. Leaning to get the DT 770's as my next jump!
I got myself the m50x and compliment them with the open back dt990 pro. perfect combo imo for production and the m50x are my go to DJing phones.
I have the same 2 also! Love them both, with a pad swap for the 50x. Stock are trash.
@@erichieger7386 which pads do u use now? I too don't like the stock pads on my m50x
@@akshayjuneja1987 also, there are more expensive high quality ones made specifically for AT-M50x, from Dekoni and Wicked Cushions, Brainwavz. Can't go wrong with any of them!
I forgot to mention that one of the reasons they are so great is the thickness and density of the padding, plus the size of the opening - it keep your ears farther from the drivers and creates a lot more space.
@@erichieger7386 thanks man...
I've used the dt770 pro (250ohm) for about 13 years until I moved to a free standing house where I could use speakers without bothering my neighbours 3 years ago. During the 13 years I've also bought the sennheuser hd595 that's a little lighter and airy, due the the open backed design vs closed design of the 770. The 595 is so light you often forget it's there. I used it on a diy headphone amp that could drive 600 ohm loads. The 770 could play so loud without distortion that you'd blow your ears off without noticing it, truly an on stage headphones.
The 770 base is detailed and well defined, on the hd595 too but it's slightly thinner but very close.
Later I bought the dt770 80 ohms as I used one pair in the living room and one on the go with my smartphone, at work and upstairs. It's hard to distinguish between the 250 and 80 ohms, pretty much equal to me on a headphone amp. But on 32 ohm devices the 80 ohms has stronger base and plays higher volumes.
The 770 250 developed a crackle at loud base sounds so I tried cleaning it first (hairs stuck under the pad could cause resonances) But it did't help. I'd have to replace the drivers to fix it. They are still available, as are most of the parts like shells, the headband, cables etc. It'scalways a good sign when headphones have replacement parts available, though they're quite expensive. 2 drivers sets me back about 2/3 of the cost of new pair of headphones.
Those velour pads last about 2 years until they are too soft and grime up. You'll feel the inner pads against your ears at that point which caused some irritation. You can't wash them, they loose their stiffness and fall apart. The sennheiser hd595 has fewer parts available, and the pads could only be found on Aliexpress and were pretty good.
The head band padding fell apart on the 770 250 as well due to traveling with it in the first few years, got banged up pretty badly but still survived. I replaced all the padding and it was like new after 13 years!
There are leather pads available as well, for better isolation. Straight and coiled cables are available, but takes some soldering to install.
After I moved i prefer my diy speakers (visaton 3 way drivers, softdomes for high and mid, glassfiber for low). The sound is much better compared to these headphones. Due to covid I work from home and don't travel that much. I havea pair of etymotic hf5 in ear headphones as well. Base a bit weak but is otherwise excellent and even better noise cancellation.
After listening to the 770 again recently I've found the highs slightly fatiging campared to my speaker set. I can't listen at higher volumes for longer than half an hour while I could listen for hours with the speakers.
When new the highs are even stronger so breaking them in at high volume is a must.
It's always so funny to me how subjective the perception of headphones is. I compared the two for my purposes (electric guitar recording) and I prefer the ATs for both sound and comfort. Plus, I ALWAYS wedge the flesh at the top of my fingers in the hinge mechanism of the BD DTs. It's as if they come cursed for me.
4:34 about the M50x lack of earpad comfort that makes you switch to Beyer, yes agree. And that's the reason I change the earpad with a bigger "hole" on earpad like the Brainwavz, it can be paired with M50x, and my ears sits comfortably inside that earpad without any fatigue. It no longer be a on ear headphones but real over ear headphones.
I have DT770 pro 80 ohm and I like them. I reseantly got AKG K371 and they are also very good for the price.
I agree, the comfort of the M50s is probably it's biggest setback. Thankfully that's an easy fix, I got soft, Velvet replacement cups which boosted the comfort and did not change the sound of the headphone
As a M50X/M50XBT user (audio monitoring, general use) the stock pads I've never used for more than I think 2 days then I switched to flat leather/suade/hybrid pads (7USD each on aliexpress) are the reason I keep 3 pairs of these handy is each set of pads has a different alteration to the sound profile, now one thing I have to recommend is get hearing tests done properly before buying any headphones as knowing your physical data sheet allows you to be-able to judge equipment without having gaping blindspots.
In my 7 years of using them headbands get replaced every 1-1.5 years just a simple de-solder job, pads every year or xmas you can wash pads but the PU sheads too fast.
One thing I will note is 2.5mm locking was changed to 3.5mm non-locking and gen 1 BT is micro USB and gen 2 BT is type-c for power and these do hold charge for months and do last 2-3 days of use but BT is useless on windows directly so external transmitters are needed if you want to use it (I just have patch in points around the room for cables) though on macos and linux I've had pretty fluid experience with BT but its slightly lacking the depth of direct copper to a DAC.
I will note here these are really easy sets to modify for balanced input.
Now I will say the M50X are terrible for portability, personally I use a pair of pelter comtacts with geal pads and BT IEMs normally airpod pros when its just out and about this provides 100% sound isolation due to air gap, but full 360 position mapped amplified outside audio without taking the headphones off peltors are great for hearing protection with cut off ranges, I have wanted to make a pair with M50X drivers but its one of those long term some day projects.
I am using the M50XBT2. After replacing the upgraded headphone cable with an earphone amplifier, it not only listens to music at home, but also makes travel (Bluetooth) and entertainment more convenient.
After comparing both headphones and thinking for month which one to buy I'm happy to say that I bought them both 😁
Si solo los quiero para disfrutar la música en mi celular cual de esos es mejor? Se que no están hechos para eso, pero quiero saber cual de esos dos seria mejor para escuchar musica
Hi brother, does dt 770 have nice bass? Love your channel btw
Currently own the TYGR 300rs ams love them, wanna go with a closed back option aswell probably gonna go with the 770 Pro 80 ohms, since I heard they have nice boomy fast hitting sub bass. And dont sound muddy
They make larger pads for the M50s for less than $20 that are much bigger than the originals and it actually improved the sound isolation and also the bass response. Much much better seal after I upgraded those pads.
Yeah I've gotten my ear pads from Wicked Cushions purely for comfort reasons. They also sell some covers for the headbands which stops them from becoming all flakey over time.
Hi Scott, do you have a link where i can buy those Pads ?
Can you post a link to exactly those pads? Thanks
Ditto, link to those pads? Thanks!
Bro you cant post shit like this and not provide link
I have a fairly big head and the M50s are the most comfortable headphones I have ever used. They are also much more biased where the Beyerdynamics are a bit bright - might be good for trying to hear things, but I would never use them for a final mix. That said I was thinking of switching my casual listening set over to the DT 770 Pro but in this day in age if I am spending over $50 on headphones, they should have a detachable cable although my original M50s with the original cable did last me 14 years.
You can buy replacements for everything for both. Even cloth pads for the ATX. I have both and you can wash the cloth pads.
I haven’t tried both, but own the ATH-40X and it was great until I tried the YAMAHA MT5 and bought the MT8. The MT8 has a very balanced response with some brilliance
I have em both straight from sweetwater...Thru the universal audio twin duo...the beyerdynamic is way more comfortable when keeping em on but dont pack the punch the mx 50 does..Both great but been using the audio technicas more
I‘ve got both of them, the Audio Technical 50 in a little older version. I agree completely with what you say.
Thanks, GAD!
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
@@fam.7971 of course, why not if there is a headphones input jack!
When I tested m40x (pretty same as m50x but flatter) and dt 770 the detail in 770 was far superior compared to m40x, but the dt were also more colored than m40x so I went with m40x. I already had couple hifi systems in home, so I didnt need another one
Great review. I was wondering what would you recommend that would be best for watching movies?
I definitely prefer the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro for movies! Much easier to listen to over an extended period of time.
I had used m50 for 3 years and then 770 for 8 years and now thinking to return back to audio-technica
nice video !
I have both... but recently I add to my "collection" the Sennheiser HD 560s which to me overcomes them both. Very neutral while musical and detailed, with a great soundstage and very comfortable as well. Just a bit more expensive, but definetely it's worth.
Aren't they open back? Do they leak a lot of sound? My setup is in the living room and I'm in a 1bedroom apartment. Will that disturb my roommate? Also because my conversations with my friends aren't always pg (and the games I play)
@@traderboi3954 they are open back, but the HD 569 version is closed-back. From what I can tell they seem the same in all other ways but I could be wrong.
Sadly they are not very good if you like metal genre music
Hd560s is definitely not neutral, for your taste is
I went with the M50's and just brought a pair of WC(Wicked Cusions) replacement ear pads. They are way softer/thicker and I haven't noticed any audio difference. Because they are bigger they don't hurt my ears.
I own both of these, I wear glasses, and I live in a significantly tropical climate where heat and humidity is high over a third of the year. The ear pads of the 'pleather' are inferior to the plush, however you can easily halve or quarter the timeframes for longevity mentioned on both of these in this environment. One other thing I should mention is that the rubber/plastic sheaths on the thin wiring of the DT770 80hms quickly deteriorates after a certain point in this climatic setting. That said, electrical tape and silicon wrap has temporarily fixed this in an inelegant, but effective, manner on my DT770s. I'm really pleased with the sound quality of both of these, however neither are really built to last in a tropical clime. Thankfully, both companies provide spare parts. Overall, I still tend towards the DT770 80Ohms as my preferred option if wired, but the bluetooth version of the MX50x definitely has advantages in non-critical listening environments. I should point out that I use Sonarworks Reference software (non-sponsored) for each of these to balance out any ingrained idiosyncrasies that come with each headphone when mixing/mastering.
Thanks for sharing your perspective on this! Very helpful!
I'd have a dilemma between having the detachable cord and the overall better comfort of the DT 770s
My DT770 250 ohm connected to JDS Labs Atom amp connected to Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 connected to a PC using (customized) oratory1990 impulse response loaded in Equalizer APO is extremely good at everything.
I went through around 10 different styles of cheapo chinese earpads to find ones that fix the discomfort of the m50x's while still sounding nice. I ended up with these leather pads that are an inch tall and really thick with narrow conical insides, which eliminated most of the reverb I found in other large leather pads. They can be pretty sweaty, but really comfortable otherwise.
I actually got the m50x for pc gaming and live streaming and couldn’t be happier, but the beyer dynamics were my second choice
Beyerdynamic for me 770 & 990 at both 80 and 250 ohms so two pair for the chair and four pairs for the talent, the 990s are nice for e-drummers and for some mixing but usually I mix with my genelec near field
Sony MDR-7506 are my go tos for the natural sound they give. I have the AT M50 and M40. Both are still great as I use them for monitoring my acoustic drum kit.
I have the Sony MDR-7509s. I'm guessing they're similar to yours. But I much prefer the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250ohms, though it's nice to have various pairs for reference when mixing.
Correction: I actually do have 7506s too. They're in my Ultraphone headsets which I highly recommend (the drummer for the Steve Miller band made a company where he put the 7506 insides into an ear protection headset. Great for drummers as it blocks basically all sound)
Thanks for the info Kyle! I use the Sennheiser 280HD Pro, because I've invested enough on speakers & room treatment, so they are reference only for tweaking & going on the road. I constantly try to give students this kind of comparisons so they can choose according to their needs and goals. Audiotechnica, Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic are probably the best entry headphones (that will be useful for years) one can get. Have you tried Focal, or Adam?
Thanks for watching, Juan Carlos!
I haven’t tried Focal or ADAM headphones. They look very nice and comfortable though. Have you tried them?
Thank you Sir, informative. I've been wondering what to get as a second headset for recording. I currently use 770 Pros 80 ohm with good amplification (Arcam A8). I used to use Sennheiser Professional HD 25 as they have a great balance, however they do not match up for longevity, they have an odd two prong plug to each driver, that ends up not working, DO NOT get the HD 25, they don't last even though they sound more accurate, sorry, you have no idea where I'm coming from. As a professional recording engineer (retired).
I've had the ATH-M50x for a couple years now and they started to hurt my head so baddddd + the velvet / velour cushions we had to buy separetly is unusable ... full of hairs and craps that won,t go away even after loads of cleaning... I'm getting the DT 770 Pro for my birthday and cannot wait to try them !
I use the DT 770 Pro (80 Ohms) with the Mayflower ARC MK2 on my desktop PC and really enjoy them. Sometimes it feels tight on my head but I really enjoy the sound it produces. I would just adjust the headphones slightly and it's fine, then repeat.
can I use HD770 80 ohm with Presonus Studio 24C audio interface in your opinion ?? And on IPAD-PRO 2020 ??
I have tried the DT 770 Pro in both 80 and 250 Ohm. Recommended them a few times to happy recipients who prefer listening to music like Jazz or Classical Music.
Also tried a few Sennheisers, Sonys, Koss, Bose and Bower Wilkins Headphones just to mention a few that are either a popular choice or really good on their own.
Notable mention... the Koss Porta Pros always amaze me as a compact on Ear Headphone.
But back to those two legendary Headphones ... i just bought my third pair of M50s ... my second one beeing the BT2 Variant ...which truly sounds like it is indeed wired... if you use LDAC 960kbps.
My original pair of M50s was now 14 years old and i have used it at least a few hours every day... at home, on the go ... just always.
Why did i replace them for a new pair of M50 (in the M50x Gunmetal variant :))? Because they sound so much more fun... they work for films, also Jazz and Classical Music ... although the sound stage is not nearly as wide as on the DT 770 Pros or the DT990 for that matter and the clarity is also not as defined.
But exactly this clarity is for my preferred types of music too much, too airy,... i love that DnB, Techno, Rap and Trap or any type of EDM sounds like you are in the club.
Huge Speaker style bass, nothing distorted, nice but tight soundstage that can become quite a bit wider with the proper recording.
This btw. also makes them quite useable for fast FPS Shooter Games... positional audio is still decent while explosions sound like real explosions.
Airier Headphones or the good sounding but very fragile Steelseries Headsets do not reproduce mids and especially low frequencies quite punchy but still not overexposed like the M50 do.
Back to my final Audio verdict as i drifted over to why i also like to use them for really everything else.
I like my audio clean, neutral and undistorted but still dirty, so when the fat baseline hits, it really hits you.
So i have the peace in mind that i do not care if i listen to Simon & Garfunkel, Lil John, A$AP Rocky, The Prodigy, John Spencer Blues Explosion, ELO, Justice, Die Antwoord, Dj Shadow, Slipknot, Trampsta, Massive Attack, Dj Fresh, Autechre, Chicago, Schoolboy Q and whatnot... it all just sounds so right. Not only clean but also fun.
Mind you the DT 770s will manage to play quite a few of these Artists just fine too,... but take the song Bassline Junkie from Dizzee Rascal ... the bass will not "be buzzin" on the DT 770 Pros ...
so that is definately a song that sounds just weird on the DT-770 Pro.
John Spencer also sounds in general nicer on the M50s although the DT770 also do a good job but they do create a different experience for the listener.
So if you want a "always on" wide soundstage with pristine separation (perfect to dissect every single instrument track) and brilliant treble ... go get the DT 770 Pro´s ... they do feel more comfortable and a bit more premium.
But i just cannot quit the M50s ... they sound so much more fun to me and when i need some bangers instead of the 4th coffee... the DT 770 just do not cut it.
Comfort was a problem in the end with my 14 year old ones ... but both new ones feel really nice.
At the very first day i should have given the Headband a little strech as the fit will hurt after a few hours if you have a rather big head like me.
Now a few days in this does not bother me.
Quite curious ... the Earpads from the BT2DS Variant are quite noticeable softer and feel really nice throughout a 10 hours office day (Mic is really really good for Teams and i can dual pair my phone and notebook).
Still the M50 Earpads will be comfortable enough, even for longer sessions as long as they are fresh, be sure to replace them as soon as you feel the inner cup putting pressure on your ears.
There are also quite a few high quality after market earcups available for the M50s ... but that sounds like a research of its own which i have been too lazy to do yet.
Great review! 👍🏻 Thanx a lot. Just a tiny little remark from a native German: "Beyer" in the brandname "Beyerdynamic" is pronounced like "fire", not like "layer". I hope it is clear what I mean 😊😇.
I'm looking to upgrade from KRK headphones to the DT 770s soon, the KRKs were the only ones available at my local music store so I got em, I only use em for making beats
Great video. What is the difference in sound between the 250 ohm and 80 ohm? Just curious? Thanks
BD DT-990 Edition 250, but I don't work in audio domain, just an enthusiast that likes clarity (First pair where replaced because of a defect in left HP after one year of use)