Scaling Instagram Infrastructure

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  • Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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    Lisa Guo overviews Instagram's infrastructure, its history, multi-data center support, tuning uwsgi parameters for scaling, performance monitoring and diagnosis, and Django/Python upgrade.
    Download the slides & audio at InfoQ: bit.ly/2uljG8j
    This presentation was recorded at QCon London 2017.
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  • @zss123456789
    @zss123456789 4 роки тому +189

    *Timestamps*
    0:00 Introduction (Lisa Guo)
    2:21 1. Scale out
    5:11 1.1 Instagram Stack Overview
    5:46 1.2 Storage vs Computing
    6:29 1.3 Scale out: Storage
    8:13 1.4 Scale out: Computing
    8:52 1.5 Memcache + consistency issues
    12:05 1.6 DB load problem
    14:01 1.7 Memcache Lease
    15:12 1.8 Results, Challenges, Opportunities
    17:03 2. Scale up
    17:57 2.1 Monitor (Collect Data)
    20:07 2.2 Analyze (C-Profile)
    23:06 2.3 Optimize
    26:19 2.3a Memory Optimizations
    29:06 2.3b Network Latency Optimizations
    30:40 2.4 Challenges, Opportunities
    31:36 3. Scale Dev Team
    33:06 3.1 What We Want
    33:30 3.2 Tao Infrastructure
    34:33 3.3 Source Control
    36:17 3.4 How to ship code with 1 master approach?
    37:54 3.5 How often do we ship code?
    40:03 Wrap-up
    41:15 Q&A

    • @zss123456789
      @zss123456789 4 роки тому +3

      Note: My understanding for Memcache Lease is, you're allowing servers to return stale values with the knowledge of it being stale. This is different from most simple implementations of cache invalidation, which would query the db and update the cache whenever the value is stale. The philosophy here is that the stale value is still useful, and the value difference is not worth the load on the database.

    • @bogdax
      @bogdax 2 роки тому +1

      @@zss123456789 That's a very good point I haven't thought about. Thanks!

    • @juakinggg
      @juakinggg Рік тому +1

      not every hero are wearing the cape, thx !!

  • @mikejeffery8371
    @mikejeffery8371 6 років тому +191

    This was a fantastic presentation. She covered a huge amount of material in a short time. What they've done and how they've done it is very impressive.

  • @sanjeevdiitm
    @sanjeevdiitm 3 роки тому +49

    InfoQ is doing excellent job by bringing these talks to us.

  • @smonkey001
    @smonkey001 3 роки тому +6

    Every architecture video should be like this, instead of marketing BS.

  • @JamesCollins90
    @JamesCollins90 2 роки тому +3

    "I need to learn about scaling"
    *heads to youtube, finds this video*
    "Wow, I now know EVERYTHING about scaling".
    The best video on scaling infrastructure i've found so far. No jargon, no acronym's, specific detail about exactly how things are balanced, routed, managed and replicated. Love it.

  • @cpsarathe
    @cpsarathe 6 років тому +49

    That’s the great presentation . To the point and not super technical . Newbie like me in the world of architecture can understand

  • @ryan-bo2xi
    @ryan-bo2xi 4 роки тому +13

    This is a treasure box ! Thank you Miss/Mrs XYZ for the super lucid explanation.

  • @person.a
    @person.a Рік тому

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  • @yuhechen7258
    @yuhechen7258 3 роки тому +1

    Great presentation! I'm dealing with many of the scaling challenges discussed by Lisa in my organization. Although they vary and Instagram's solution does not solve my challenges, but Lisa certainly offers any view of how great companies address them.

  • @markuslenger2642
    @markuslenger2642 2 роки тому +1

    A complex topic explained in a simple way. Thank you!

  • @pareshmaniyar8273
    @pareshmaniyar8273 2 роки тому +3

    Dude, load testing on prod! What a badass move!

  • @babitarpur
    @babitarpur 5 років тому +23

    Well thought through presentation. Many takeaways.

  • @FeliciaFay
    @FeliciaFay 3 роки тому +1

    Really fantastic presentation, thanks Lisa and InfoQ!

  • @karvinus
    @karvinus 5 років тому +4

    Great presentation. Great job Lisa !

  • @rameshj9198
    @rameshj9198 3 роки тому +2

    Kudos to infoQ team for bringing such tech videos.

  • @hokcuan2390
    @hokcuan2390 Рік тому

    Amazing sharing! Kudos InfoQ❤

  • @tejasripavuluri6359
    @tejasripavuluri6359 5 років тому +2

    Awesome concise high level presentation.

  • @yuchonghe3192
    @yuchonghe3192 3 роки тому +2

    One of the best presenter who I have ever seen.

  • @hengwang74
    @hengwang74 3 роки тому

    Best Talk I have seen! Thank you for sharing!

  • @enjoyalife1
    @enjoyalife1 3 роки тому +3

    Well delivered talk with clear separation of topics.

  • @jeffsaremi
    @jeffsaremi 5 років тому +1

    Extremely beneficial. Please have more of these

  • @jccourse
    @jccourse 4 роки тому +1

    it was a fantastic presentation. very clear, easy understand, and very detail,

  • @amlanch
    @amlanch 5 років тому +2

    Nice presentation. There are bunch of things that can be improved for detection of the time series jumps by Fourier transformation of the time series and comparing the two frequencies on a predetermined delta of difference.

  • @ketanshah6613
    @ketanshah6613 2 роки тому +2

    This has been such an educational video. I feel excited about the problems, everything was so well covered and explained and So many aspects were touched without any redundant data. Thank infoq for this video. Super super intereseting.

  • @rustemiskakov2973
    @rustemiskakov2973 Рік тому

    Best presentation I have ever seen! Thank you.

  • @amitcool99
    @amitcool99 3 роки тому

    Gold Video ! learned so many aspect of scaling

  • @chiranjibghorai6950
    @chiranjibghorai6950 6 років тому +1

    Excellent talk!

  • @shoumeshrawat1362
    @shoumeshrawat1362 2 роки тому +1

    Such an insightful presentaion from a developers point .. Thank you so much

  • @False41
    @False41 3 роки тому +1

    Super informative. Thank you!

  • @riteshbajaj6
    @riteshbajaj6 2 роки тому

    Easy to understand presentation. Thanks

  • @kienphan6436
    @kienphan6436 21 день тому +1

    Great talk thank you

  • @genie7941
    @genie7941 4 роки тому

    Fantastic. So insightful.

  • @placidchat7532
    @placidchat7532 5 років тому +2

    How do you do test the configurations for scale out, or is this applied to live running machines? Or are specific test machines carved out from live users?

  • @zenymax36
    @zenymax36 5 років тому +7

    Great talk. I have got some new tools and process for my work. Thank you very much.

    • @infoq
      @infoq  5 років тому +2

      Happy to hear that.

  • @RichardTMiles
    @RichardTMiles 3 роки тому +1

    she did really well. also s/o to the guy asking the very last question for answering it with his exp..

  • @Sanyat100
    @Sanyat100 2 роки тому

    easily the best presentation i ever came across in these talks

  • @cenkerdemir
    @cenkerdemir 5 років тому +3

    wow. this was a great talk!

  • @alpham6685
    @alpham6685 3 роки тому

    This is pure gold !

  • @igorborovkov7011
    @igorborovkov7011 10 місяців тому

    this planet will never recover from the Python's environmental impact

  • @filmbyben2
    @filmbyben2 2 роки тому

    Such an awesome video, thank you for sharing

  • @denkigumo
    @denkigumo 4 роки тому

    Fantastic talk! Learnt a lot.

  • @just4meonly
    @just4meonly 2 роки тому +1

    Well said "performance part of dev cycle rather than after thought.."

  • @mnchester
    @mnchester 2 роки тому

    Amazing presentation!

  • @random-characters4162
    @random-characters4162 Рік тому

    Git and code shipping approach is mind blowing ❤

  • @VaibhavPatil-rx7pc
    @VaibhavPatil-rx7pc 3 роки тому

    Great post I ever seen thanks

  • @ZhaoWeiLiew
    @ZhaoWeiLiew 5 років тому

    This was pretty insightful.

  • @obiwan_smirnobi
    @obiwan_smirnobi 2 роки тому

    Awesome talk, thank you!

  • @roshedulalamraju7936
    @roshedulalamraju7936 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for sharing 😊😊😊

  • @hemalpatel1504
    @hemalpatel1504 4 роки тому +33

    deployment to 20,000+ servers in 10 mins !!!

    • @Rxlochan
      @Rxlochan 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, just mic drop moment

  • @jpzhang8290
    @jpzhang8290 4 роки тому +2

    How would you synchronize betwen different postgresql servers? It would still cause latency issue.

  • @Kideqx
    @Kideqx 6 років тому +4

    wow! this is cool

  • @vinylwarmth
    @vinylwarmth 6 місяців тому

    This is a seriously good talk

  • @KrishnaDasPC
    @KrishnaDasPC 2 роки тому

    Brilliant talk👍

  • @valentynkuznietsov7866
    @valentynkuznietsov7866 3 роки тому

    Great talk!

  • @Pjblabla2
    @Pjblabla2 2 роки тому

    Very informative talk

  • @pariveshplayson
    @pariveshplayson 2 роки тому

    Fantastic!!

  • @Textras
    @Textras 6 років тому

    Very good thanks

  • @pranavsharma9025
    @pranavsharma9025 2 роки тому

    Excellent talk.

  • @TheInvestmentCircle
    @TheInvestmentCircle 2 роки тому

    Wow. She is brilliant.

  • @weblancaster
    @weblancaster 6 років тому +4

    Great talk.

  • @anandt8362
    @anandt8362 2 роки тому

    Any reason why these images can't be asynchronously processed when you user uploads the image and stores different sizes in S3 buckets provided through CDN.. Thereby, you avoid processing while fetching whenever user requests .. This would further improve the processing power right .. Anyone thoughts on this ?

  • @helinw
    @helinw 5 років тому +21

    Thanks for the great talk, very clear and concise. Interestingly, some of the problem in the "scale up" section can be resolved by using a programming language more suitable for modern machines. The "scale up" section sounds like "hacks that make Python faster".

    • @MrHades2325
      @MrHades2325 4 роки тому

      I am graduating this year, so I don't have a lot experience. I feel from your comment that you have a lot of knowledge from experience. May I ask you which programming languages are more suitable for scalability in modern machines. Thank you in advance

    • @TeluguAbbi
      @TeluguAbbi 4 роки тому

      @@MrHades2325 Erlang and Scala - To name two

    • @piyh3962
      @piyh3962 3 роки тому +12

      Developer efficiency > compute efficiency

    • @jimmyadaro
      @jimmyadaro 3 роки тому

      @@piyh3962 “Move fast, break things” :)

    • @abeidiot
      @abeidiot 2 роки тому

      stupid comment. And I'm not even a python fan. It's usually academics who make such shallow statements

  • @senthilkumar5
    @senthilkumar5 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent Presentation. Insight to practical scalable challenges.

  • @quicksilver5413
    @quicksilver5413 2 роки тому

    Really good talk!

  • @driziiD
    @driziiD 5 років тому +2

    awesome to see python scaled to INSTAGRAM LEVEL

    • @xnoreq
      @xnoreq 5 років тому +8

      Only usable on a large scale when replaced with C, lol. Once again Python has proven that it is a scripting language for toying around.
      This talk is like one complaint about Python after the other:
      1) Performance is bad.
      2) Memory usage is bad. (I lol'd when she said that just the running Python code itself takes up a significant amount of memory.)
      3) GC is bad.

  • @shakeib98
    @shakeib98 2 роки тому

    At 12:05, if the memcache is invalidated then why does it need it then? Like the read and write operations are on the database server then.

  • @ddg170
    @ddg170 4 роки тому

    this is an awesome talk!!!

  • @nortrom212
    @nortrom212 9 місяців тому

    Engineers are so good at optimizations that they ultimately optimize themselves. Great presentation though...

  • @chuckywang
    @chuckywang 5 років тому +4

    Does dead code really take up that much memory? It will never be run so it doesn't affect runtime, but how much smaller would your executable be if you removed dead code?

    • @gsb22
      @gsb22 2 роки тому +1

      I think here they are talking about RAM consumption. In other compiled languages, compiler actually removes the code that will never get called, JS has tree-shaking something like that, but in case of Python, if a module is loaded into memory, Python loads on methods into memory and then this cascades. I'm not sure how much gain they could have had, but by the looks of improvements, it seems, they were building really fast and they left a lot of dead code behind which when cleaned helped them a lot. Had they been cleaning from start, they change would not be that much.

  • @ZaidaGote
    @ZaidaGote 6 років тому +1

    Awesome

  • @saurabhchopra
    @saurabhchopra 4 роки тому +4

    44:21 You guys are robust!

  • @mitotv6376
    @mitotv6376 Рік тому

    Very nice

  • @blasttrash
    @blasttrash 3 роки тому +4

    11:36 Today I learnt that you can run daemons on a database also(postgres in this case as she said).

    • @psykidellic
      @psykidellic 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, even i was not aware. I did some digging and i this is done using PgQ. instagram-engineering.com/instagration-pt-2-scaling-our-infrastructure-to-multiple-data-centers-5745cbad7834 ... under the caching section.

  • @deerew23
    @deerew23 5 років тому

    This is interesting

  • @cozzbie
    @cozzbie 4 роки тому

    Wonder how they do code reviews if everyone works from one branch

  • @pursuitofcat
    @pursuitofcat 3 роки тому

    26:04 Is this statement correct? "We run n processes where n is greater than the cpu cores of the system." I thought we should have at most the same number of processes as the number of cores.

  • @That__Guy
    @That__Guy 3 роки тому +2

    I started sweating when she talked about the single branch tactic

    • @payaljain4015
      @payaljain4015 8 місяців тому

      you got that ? if yes can you please explain

  • @ankitsolomon
    @ankitsolomon 5 років тому

    Could someone pls post link for the article mentioned by author related to disabling garbage collection?

    • @infoq
      @infoq  5 років тому

      This article could be useful: www.infoq.com/articles/Java_Garbage_Collection_Distilled

  • @karnveerayush
    @karnveerayush 5 років тому

    Fantastic presentation, lot was covered in very short span of time.
    Is there anyone point me more such content here on UA-cam. Thanks.

    • @infoq
      @infoq  5 років тому +2

      There is similar content available on infoq.com

  • @Sunshine_1998
    @Sunshine_1998 2 роки тому

    Go Lisa!!

  • @pizza-cat1337
    @pizza-cat1337 4 роки тому +5

    Everyone commits on master and it doesn't go wrong... that's impressive haha.

    • @jimmyadaro
      @jimmyadaro 3 роки тому

      Testing EVERYTHING 😂

    • @payaljain4015
      @payaljain4015 8 місяців тому

      @@jimmyadaro but dev at one time is it ?

  • @audi88
    @audi88 6 років тому +3

    Instead of having every django d1, d2 competing to go the db for a cache refresh and causing the 'thundering herd', the d1,d2s should only check for data in memcache. It can be the job of memcache or an external service to refresh the data (independent of d1,d2s) from the DB. memcache can continue to serve old or stale data to d1,d2, while in parallel - load the data from DB and then invalidate the old data in a transactional block. Of course for a short time till invalidation you may have double the size of data in you memcache. It is sort of similar on what memcache-lease is doing, but I think d1,d2s should be kept to focus on memcache rather than speaking to the db and causing 'herd' problem.

    • @matt_not_fat
      @matt_not_fat 5 років тому +5

      I don't agree, because cache is more expensive than DB. And like the speaker said, data access is local to region many times. If you eagerly update the memcache with the entire dataset you have to then deal with the huge amount of storage you require, not to mention that scaling out the memcache cluster (or any change in the hardware in that cluster) would take forever, because you need to prewarm the cache. If you don't do that you end up with a lazy population strategy, which is exactly what she is suggesting. You also amortize the cost of the first slow query. It's win win.

  • @yuhechen7258
    @yuhechen7258 3 роки тому +2

    Lisa didn't discuss about the postgres data sharding. Is it possible to store meta data and handle queries for billions users in just one postgres instance? Any idea?

    • @evgeni-nabokov
      @evgeni-nabokov 3 роки тому +1

      10:20 She mentioned sharding by hash of user id.

  • @akshatjainbafna
    @akshatjainbafna Рік тому

    TAO is a Distributed Graph based database not a Relational database. Their are nodes and links for relations

  • @MendaSpain
    @MendaSpain 6 років тому +11

    Wow, 20,000 web servers where the code is deployed with 40-60 rollouts per day

    • @mostafaelmadany8046
      @mostafaelmadany8046 6 років тому +2

      a huge work behind the scenes

    • @aeshi001
      @aeshi001 6 років тому +3

      definitely interested on how they manage to do this

  • @arunsatyarth9097
    @arunsatyarth9097 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice presentation. But I wish she wouldnt say Data Centre and Region interchangably.

  • @cafeliu5401
    @cafeliu5401 5 років тому +26

    Can anybody see my comment? Am I trapped on a single Datacenter in SGP?

  • @Joso997
    @Joso997 5 років тому +1

    How does it know if it should wait or use stale value?

    • @gsb22
      @gsb22 2 роки тому

      Exactly. If every Django uses the stale data, memcache will never get updated.
      [Edit] : I think, if a request comes and no other "fill" request is being processed, then this request gets the DB access whereas other requests that are coming when the previous one was still filling, they get stale data and once the fill up is done and new like gets added and DB is updated, then the cycle starts.
      Example - Request R1 comes, no other requests are doing the "fill" process, memcache allows this requests to hit DB and do the fill up, meanwhile if R2,R3,...R100 comes, memcache says, their is already a fill process in work and you can fckk off with this stale value or wait till this "fill" process is done and then you would be treated as R1 and you get to query the data.
      Anyone who didnt get this, feel free to comment, I'll try different way to explain this then.

  • @kevin8918
    @kevin8918 4 роки тому +1

    OMG, the source control part is surprising. It looks like ig is a giant monolithic app with one code base. Why not break it out at early phase

    • @jimmyadaro
      @jimmyadaro 3 роки тому

      Because the “move fast, break things” philosophy

  • @jaywelborn
    @jaywelborn 11 місяців тому

    20k servers updated in 10 minutes.
    I need another talk about just that

  • @tamborelconejo
    @tamborelconejo 3 роки тому +1

    Someone can say where can we find more information about that git single-master approach?

    • @gsb22
      @gsb22 2 роки тому

      It's simple, usually if you are working on a feature, you create a branch from master and then work on it and then after ages, you merge it back into master. What they did was, instead of branching out, every commit would go to master, so basically your commits have to be stable, but need not to be complete, so this way, if someone starts working next day, they already have the changes u committed which reduces future merge issues.

    • @tawfiknasser1348
      @tawfiknasser1348 2 роки тому

      @@gsb22 This sound like not the best approach. what about code review ? or in case reverting only one commit after you pushed your 100 stable commit. now imagine after reverting this commit(for some reason) the feature is crashing ! shall your revert all the 99 commit ? should you fix and commit and push in the same day ? i mean, this can cause more issues than it may help.

    • @gsb22
      @gsb22 2 роки тому

      @@tawfiknasser1348 you can cherry pick to revert a commit. And yes, this method has problems but this us the tradeoff they went with

  • @kevintran6102
    @kevintran6102 4 роки тому

    How can they handle conflict when using a single branch?

    • @gsb22
      @gsb22 2 роки тому

      they push frequently, so merge conflicts are small and easy to fix. If two branches are merged after a month of development on them, then that's shit storm whereas if they are regularly updated with master, less conflicts.

  • @hammad8053
    @hammad8053 3 роки тому +1

    "Don't count the servers, make the servers count"

    • @jimmyadaro
      @jimmyadaro 3 роки тому

      That’s easy when you have a multimillionaire contract with a cloud computing provider (and/or own your own bare-metal servers).

    • @gsb22
      @gsb22 2 роки тому +1

      @@jimmyadaro I think what it meant was, dont say we have 10k servers so the load will get handled, say that every server is running 100% efficiently.

    • @jimmyadaro
      @jimmyadaro 2 роки тому

      ​@@gsb22 Sure, that makes sense, but still, they are capable of pay per really-high-scale servers.

  • @ucretsiztakipci6612
    @ucretsiztakipci6612 Рік тому

    36:00

  • @jayleejw1801
    @jayleejw1801 Рік тому

    This convinces me that even Python can be scaled as a global distributed system. Stop saying python sucks guys

  • @Roshen_Nair
    @Roshen_Nair 2 роки тому

    Bookmark: 12:00

  • @zeroows
    @zeroows Рік тому

    Use Rust :)

  • @hardikmahant7353
    @hardikmahant7353 3 роки тому

    In Instagram, Requests = Djangos? @15:02

  • @PankajMishra-ey3yh
    @PankajMishra-ey3yh 6 років тому

    I am fairly new to django and don't know whether I will be able to understand all these complex stuff one day or not :-(

    • @cpsarathe
      @cpsarathe 6 років тому +1

      Pankaj Mishra with experience and repeated watching you will .

    • @zolongOne
      @zolongOne 4 роки тому

      You will

    • @jimmyadaro
      @jimmyadaro 3 роки тому

      Were you able to do so? lol

    • @PankajMishra-ey3yh
      @PankajMishra-ey3yh 3 роки тому +1

      @@jimmyadaro I changed to the DataScience domain later lol

  • @monukumar-du1mv
    @monukumar-du1mv 5 років тому +1

    11:56 I think the solution where the cache is invalidated is not even a solution because the Memcache will be empty all the time. This is because whenever a comment is registered for a post, the cache is invalidated. Would anyone clarify?

    • @fabianoenglerneto129
      @fabianoenglerneto129 5 років тому +4

      It's not the entire cache that is invalidade, it's just the cache for the specific object, for example the comments of a single post only

    • @monukumar-du1mv
      @monukumar-du1mv 5 років тому

      @@fabianoenglerneto129 Thanks!