So people with like 380xp can spawn in a jet with bombs. I feel like that's the issue, they're way too cheap. Every battle at around 2 min mark you'll see a plane incoming to bomb somebody. That's not very great for the gameplay. Also a cool thing would be having something similar like naval scout plane feature. Allowing us to switch between spaa and a tank whenever we want. So you see a plane incoming, park your tank somewhere safe, jump to spaa get the plane(or get destroyed) ,and back to your tank (if no one destroyed it). But also I can see people abusing this mechanic... so I'm not sure. Or separate gamemode for tank players only, and leave mixed for everyone who enjoy it. They could allow planes to spawn right from the start. Heck they could add naval vessel as well(that probably would require special created maps), to make it truly mix. But some changes has to be done in my opinion
Perhaps just a limit on the amount of planes that can be in play at any one time. Lets say 2 per team. Once it dies it frees up a spot for another to come in. I hate planes as a tank, but love shooting them down too much to say get rid of them entirely.
I would love a separate game mode for tanks only, but I feel like it wouldn't work sadly. They need to raise the cost of spawning in planes by a huge amount, I'm talking well over 150%. And the bigger bomb load you bring in, the more it costs. I played the VFW today and I was on a 5 kill streak, then a trash revenge bomber comes back and kills me. Dude was so bad he only had one kill, but somehow was able to spawn in a good bomber and kill me. Sad state war thunder is in right now
@@ThiccYoroi I think everyone would like a tank only game mode. Problem is the entire tank community would play it lol. Then no one would have any reason to play planes (other than just liking Air battles which is probably the minority) and Gaijin would loose a whole trees worth of potential money lol.
I think the best thing about Dollar's content is that it isn't just perfect games and cool kills, he also shows when you get a bad match and you just get screwed (which makes up way more of the actual experience) and he still makes it interesting. I've been enjoying playing the game more myself since watching how he plays.
"I've been enjoying playing the game more" you should not write stuff like that in public, someone in Gaijin may see it and it will be over. They hate when people doing anything like that in War Thunder...
@@Bialy_1 But what if we ALL say we have fun, with everything, and never complain? Then will they just stop updating the game? Seems like a win-win for everyone... Btw I play for fun and am on my 641st day logging in a row. :p
The plane spam didn't really kick in until roughly two years ago. Before that in most battles you'd see one or two planes in the sky. Then that was it. It basically meant that the people flying at the time knew what they were doing on the ground to efficiently get sp and bring a plane out. Now it's just easy so people spam it.
I don't think it should be that difficult to bring planes in. It would make being an SPAA pretty boring if you only had 1 plane to shoot at all game. But you definitely shouldn't be able to afford a plane after just 1 kill. For a few reasons. 1. It creates plane spam which is annoying. 2. It means that if you aren't a very good pilot and miss a bomb drop you now have spent all your SP and your team has essentially lost a player in the first half of the game. OR you now aimlessly fly around doing not all that much and the opposing team has a numerical advantage on the ground.
@@SCREWBY92 ok but most AA is open top or made of papermache meaning if they try to retaliate against one plane, there will be three more ready to fuck em, and i dont think 4 planes targeting you is very fun, each one of them able to very easily kill you while you have to put in thrice the effort for a crit.
@@LeMeowAu yeah that's what I mean. Cause that's what happens now. But if there was a limit of 2 planes in play per team, like 2 allowed on yours and 2 allowed on the enemies, then you'd have a better chance of survival. They'd have to partner up to try take out AA, or risk getting a CAS kill with AA shooting at them.
Nah, Gaijin made most SPAA better at being a tank destroyer than actual AA. Except for the pure surface to air missile types of the higher tiers, they will always be viable in the current meta. Maybe restricting the number of planes in the air per team is a bit much, but definitely restricting how many each player can field could work. I mean if you spawn in a CAS, (fighter bomber) from then on in that game you have to use a different type, like a dedicated fighter, and that also only once. This might encourage flyers to actually do some air to air, helping teh team instead of just farming easy ground kills. Definitely increase the spawn and repair costs of planes to reflect how much damage they so easily do. Along with only spawning at the airfield. Not half way to the battle, at altitude, and full speed. This may allow the guy who killed the wanna be pilot a chance to fight off any other tanks and relocate, avoiding the revenge bombers. I think increasing the size of the tank spawn area (make it equal to 1/2-2/3rds of the map edge. Allow ground players to chose where they spawn in this larger area will give players spawning a chance to avoid the spawn campers, both ground and air varieties. The number of times I've had a late spawn and been taken out by a plane camping the spawn is ridiculous. Deliberate suicide bombing is also a problem. Planes are so cheap to spawn that a lot just turn them into guided missiles and don't care about the cost.
Still no 4k... I'm having these issuses for over a month now. On my end shows 4k is available (finished possessing) but once you click on the video it's only 1080p...
Ah yes, the AMX-13 DCA 40. Or as my friends and I call it, "the crew's portable crematorium" as the turret is loaded with 400rds of good ole 40mm that touch off real easy in my experience.
@@DOLLARplays Exactly, the long Bofors is a great multi-purpose gun. Also capable of 'frontally' penetrating a Panther A, D, or F at close range. I love doing that with 37mm and 40mm autocannons, aim just under their gun and your AP will dive through the hull roof.
It‘s just sadly a bad AA. I personaly can be very effective with fast firing guns, but the only real nation that can offer that at low br is germany. I am going to play the btr Zd to find out if it‘s any good, but haven‘t come to fo that yet. America is a total faliure in terms of AA … we need better AAs in geberal.
People who say anti-air is a counter are incorrect. It's too easy for planes to simply avoid the anti-air on the map. Only cocky pilots get shot down by them. And seems like there are three aircraft for every anti-air.
Nearly all low-tier anti-air are also ridiculously easy to kill as a plane. Most are open-topped (or worse, just having guys standing in the open like the anti-air trucks) and even the ones that are fully enclosed tend to have armour that won't hold up to a .50 cal or 20mm from even a shallow dive.
@@HellbirdIV If you are good then you can easly take more than 5 planes with anty air on low tier. The only problem is when there is 3 planes in the air and they cooperate and making attack on you in the same time. If you know how to aim, do not just sit in the spawn.. and you also need to wait for proper moment to open fire(do not give the plane info that you are there before you are ready to finish him) then the open top is not a problem. The mode when you are not fighting against other players is a good way to train you anty air skill, but not on every BR and definitly not on higher BR.
@@Bialy_1 It's too easy for planes to check area and pick solo targets. Unless you're a god on AA killing planes with burst, you're going to give clear hint for a plane to avoid if you start to shoot them. And that's the another problem, sometimes you have to trust your teammates to do AA job. At least I'm not playing ground battles to kill some fucking planes. I'm here for damn tanks
@@Bialy_1 The problem with this approach is you're not providing cover for your team, who will be getting shredded while you wait in the shadows for your perfect sneaky shot. And even "hiding" doesn't really hide you from the air. As you can see from the video, SPAA is unable to protect their team even if they eventually get the kill.
The P.7.T kicks all kinds of ass to be honest, as it's only BR 1.3. The M16 is definitely better overall, but in 2.7 it's got plenty of competition from other really good AA and faces far more dangerous ground targets it can't destroy.
@@HellbirdIV M13 is also 1.3 BR and it is much nicer AA... it is also more mobile and your driver cabin is not blocking you ability to shot the gun as much as it is the case in P.7.T. That 14mm guns have nicer punch and more penetration power but in general its much harder to play that vehicle and have fun out of it.
I played the VFW today and man, it would be an amazing tank if CAS weren't a thing. Sadly the CAS spam makes it almost impossible to play anything open top or lightly armored. You also cant play anything heavy that moves slowly because you wont be able to move away from a bomb. So basically you cant play any tanks at all in GROUND RB. Maybe if they gave us more anti airs with good proxy fuses we would have a better chance, at least that since I know gaijin wont nerf CAS, they make way too much money from it.
8:12 Me after watching 3 m22 or m18 destroying themselves after capturing a Point while I know damn well they bring the P-47 to farm more planes with bombs
Since I see a lot of comments complaining about slower firing SPAAs I'd thought I'd leave a few tips that might help. Set your zero to around 500m, follow the plane with your eyes and not the tracer, when in doubt give more lead, if the enemy plane is pretty damn far away you probably shouldn't waste your ammo unless you wanna bait them. Also, fighters of your own are generally the best counter to CAS, especially in low-mid tier. I would still like to see a cap on plane per team at any one time though (3 per team) cause it would keep people on the ground, avoid SPAA getting ganked on, and allow allied fighters at least a glimmer of hope to get rid of the enemy instead of spawning and getting insta-bonked by 4+ enemy fighters.
Been trying AA, can be quite fun-seems to research parts fast and you get dosh pretty well doo. But god damn I hate how they can keep firing on you as they crash, so they kamikazi you, take out your engines and/or crew and... blargh. What a pain. Going in with the main pack is useful though, you're pehaps less likely to get picked out for a strafing, and more importantly, you can more easily get bombers attacking the caps. Help with caps too, and it can help with the lighter vehicles too, lets the teammates focus on the bigger stuff!
@@benoitbvg2888 then why tf does the game give u a kill? It's clearly not dead (even if it won't survive to get to airbase). The solution is simple: just don't give the kill until the player is forced to J out or the plane crashes
@@benoitbvg2888 I get that, but I think it would benefit if there was a second's grace before you can't keep firing the plane's guns anymore or something. You've surely been there; they come in to dive, you almost immediately get a 'kill' but because their first few shots killed your engine/driver, you get to have the entire dive's worth of bullets, or worse.
Yeah, I usually rock the M16 at ANY BR and get a good amount of anti-air kills. One match getting 6. But as soon as I switch to the bofors of any nation. I can’t hit a single plane. Even if it’s flying right at me.
@@snake45aiman Proxy would be best, a small envelope...maybe 3m. But could just give them a fused air burst which is historically accurate...it's what they did. Or at least could do. Add a setting before deployment like convergence or bomb fuse timers to set 40mm shells to detonate at X-meters with Y-shrapnel radius baked into the munition. Keeps the Bofors firmly in WWII, but also makes it....I dunno...somewhat useful. Still ain't gonna beat .50's or fast 20mm....but will at least suck less.
Even with all anti air slots, the insurmountable skill it takes to kill a plane is a monument compared to the puddle of skill it takes for a plane to kill a tank. There are so many issues in favor of planes i can't even begin to count them, a tank only gamemode would be much apreciated by all of pure the tankers like myself. And there are LOTS of us, i think it's to the point that there is a fear that the normal realistic battles gamemode would face longer queue times when not in peak activity. But im CERTAIN, there would always be players willing to play tank only, Tank dueling is FUN, fighting ground to air is not.
@@DOLLARplays Yeah, i had a mate who played with me alot, he played sweeden and was constantly malding because of the ramp strv, the constant bombing was the final nail in the coffin for him.
Same thought here, Planes made the ground mode painful because you will at least lose one tank to air attacks while you are involved in tank duels. That made me leave the game for 2 years only to return and find out it got worse.
@@Gustav_Kuriga did you seriously just tell a guy who specified he wants to play *TANKS* because he finds *TANK* dueling fun to play a plane? absolute fucking pinnacle of human intelligence right here. second only to anything more intelligent than a lukewarm head of lettuce.
This week has been a tough one, the loss of my grandma, and university is slowly approaching wich gives me a lot of stress. But everytime I see the notification of Dollar, that stress dissapears I want to thank you dollar, for all the vids, for helping me through dark times. Keep up the work and make others like me happy through dark times.
Dollar! I love that you're widening your film memes - I cannot say I ever expected to see A Christmas Story here. I grew up with that film - so it gave me a big ol' laugh when I saw The Old Man himself. XD Keep at it, you've got excellent comedic timing!
It would help if SPAA before actual FCS would have something more than just luck and blinding muzzle flash to aim with. It is possible to get better with your aim but that's a rather extreme level of practice in comparison to all other types of gunnery in the game + it will only really work for the specific gun one uses most. Edit: Aircraft mouse control and 3rd person camera also makes their attack runs far too easy so there isn't a need to slow down at all, contrary to how real life attack runs would go.
At lower BRs the best anti-air is a good fighter. Most people who fly get tunnel vision for ground targets and don't really know how to fight other aircraft. I usually fly my Yak-9B in ground battles up to 7.3 but I've seriously considered bringing some of my better Yaks and more than one just to keep people out of the sky.
Tips : while you're on the tank and saw cas plane coming and dropped their bombs, quickly press escape and leave vehicle before the bombs detonate.. so they don't get the kills and hopefully they don't have enough point to spawn another vehicle.. i mean there's nothing you can do when cas targeting you with big bombs.. so i rather not giving them point than get killed by cas cancer
Those single barrel 37mm and 40mm SPAAs are incredibly tough to use. They either have a pitiable RoF or almost no ammo. They are intensely frustrating.
I love the Bofors but France could use more anti-air. Examples: AMX VCI with M55 quad mount (quad .50cal) AMX VCI with a 20mm Oerlikon KAD (same gun from R3) AMX VCI with *two* 20mm guns AMX-13 DCA with twin 30mm guns Panhard M3 with one or two 20mm guns ERC-20 Kriss with twin 20mm guns CCKW 353 with 2cm Flakvierling 38 (the Bofors truck seen in the video but with Wirbelwind firepower)
dion bouton with 75mm gun international D40 with 37mm gun citroentype23U and GMC ACK with 25mm gun somua MCG AB 140 with 4 20mm HS 404s M16 GMC with giat's twin 20mm guns amx13 with 4 20mm mg 151s and the list goes on and on...
we dont need more cold war autocannons at rank 3, we just need three things: reasonable incentives to target enemy aircraft instead of just focusing selfishly on ground kills some kind of warning that yells at the low IQ players who dont even try to lead the target crew skill based lead indicator at close range It would also help if you could actually hear planes diving on you and tell the difference between an engine just over the trees and one way above. the amount of times vehiclrs just go silent because gaijin decided to be lazy and have every gun and engine sound be composed of multiple samples playing independently using multiple audio channels. any time there are more than a dozen engines around you they start cutting out because the game engine cant handle all the necessary concurrent channels. braindead game design
There's a lot of options, and still we have only these. 2 of them are better tank destroys than aa, and that rank 1 is probably best spaa up to 8.0 lol
I ike playing AA too, except my AA usually have wings and propellers. Seriously, a fighter is the best SPAA you can get - you can even intercept CAS before they reach your team!
Brilliant Mr. DOLLARplays, simply brilliant ! You swat those nasty fly's out of the sky, my good man. Keep up the good work, and amazingly game play/edit/music/ideas ect ect. Have a nice weekend all.
Dollar and players like him make WT fun. Your videos are a great watch and I learn from them sometimes. I do keep an eye out for that Betty person just in case he needs help drop'in Palpatine.
CASncer. Spawn points needed should be raised. People cashing in too quickly is a huge problem because it completely changes the ground battle dynamic. It goes from tank v tank into tank v tank while panicking and hiding from giant bombs that kill you behind structures, anyways
Extremely true, imo fighter should be 700, CAS 800 and bomber 900, and then MASSIVE costs for payloads, the full P47 payload should be at least 400 sp, so u need 800 + 400 sp for P47, so 1200 sp. Maybe it should be even higher, cuz it isn't so hard to get 1200 sp
Frankly I think the solution is to give non-radar AA some kind of "rough" lead indicator to help shoot down planes that aren't just diving straight for you. Your sphere of influence as an AA vehicle is just so freaking tiny because of how hard leading targets is.
I feel like u should have something like a mix of naval and arcade ground lead indicator, like u have 20 or 30s of "rangefinding" and then u get indicator like arcade, but if u lose visual contact with plane, u need to rangefind again, another 20 or 30s, probably 20s is more balanced
This for Dollar, i was there 3000yrs ago, when you post meme videos on the other channel, gods be praised you have this with one of my favourite hated game ever... much love from Tiril xoxo
As a French Main I j ust want to say I love the French SPAA Tree Truly one of the best in the game AMX-13 DCA is a Beast at Anti-air and Tank Destroyer also keep it up Dollar your content is the best out there!
Well the 13 dca is so outgunned with the arrival of the btr zd for anti air duty. Though I give you that in anti tank role it's amazing I feel like the LVT 40 is a good alternative to the 13 DCA as it has 2x50 cal mounted with the gun and it makes it as strong if not stronger than the 13 DCA in my opinion.
Considering that real life anti air at that time wasn't as much as hoping for a direct hit, but more of filling the air with shrapnel. I guess you can say "it depends"
Also it's easier to drop bombs in CAS than in bombers, while bombers need to drop from high height, cuz ull be shot down otherwise, the enemy has plenty of time to run (unless it's pe8 with 5ton), CAS or any plane with a bomb can drop from low height and destroy efficiently any target, wich is cancer when it is revenge, 99% of times
Only counter to cas is a fighter and camping the airspawn. So they cant even get to the battlefield to drop their bombs. I do that sometimes just to fuck with CAS players. They dont even look around or realize you are on their 6. Before its too late. 8:43 a fighter just shrugs off a 40mm HE round. While irl that is enough to wipe off a tail of a bomber. Yep absolutely boLaNcEd
I'm 50 / 50 on planes, there always so fun to fly or to see dog fighting or dive bombin, but also so frustrating when they dive bomb you and then when half the time they slam into the ground :/ I think they should either cost more sp, or only be like 1 allowed with your line up maybe for ground rb with a higher sp cost on top.
Dollar, you have the most well edited vids of any WT CC, hands down. All the little edits, especially the generous use of Mr. Bean and Arnold lmaoo. Keep up the good work man! Look forward to your videos, whenever a new one drops I actually scream, stay fast and lob brass m8 o7 🙏
Anytime! I hadn’t heard of Tarkov till I watched one of your vids a couple years back now, and I decided to play it specifically because I loved your content on it lol. You’re one of those people who is just designed to bring others joy, and I strive to be that. I hope you have a great day man 🤘
man going into 7.0+ battle with a 4.3 spaa is pain especially with slow rate of fire guns. Hope to see more spaa for the trees that need it : France obviously, Italy, UK need it aswell, Sweeden too but I don't know if they have any options for that. Also you could have taken the LVT4-40 to get the french derpy spaa Quartet :) I agree on the bomb loaded plane spawn point being maybe too low. Someone thought of a limitation of planes in the air per team (like in arcade) it could be nice anyway nice video as always
The P.7.T is so funny to me. Like, "Hey, France, build an AA platform, but our only requirement is that it can aim up, the direction most enemy planes will be approaching from." France: ... [immediately beefs it]
I'm always using 2 anti-air vehicles because I'm so done about plane spamming I'm at rank 3.7 but gosh I can't even imagine hows plane spamming on higher ranks
I've only been playing this for 4 days and I can say it's really fun. I see how people can be upset at the grind to the most ba things but it's a fun journey so far
@@nonethelessfirst8519 Just wait when you gonna start noticing the Russian BIAS and the premium vehicle BIAS... not to mention the ATGM and helicopters on the higher BR.
Dollar my friend, you said it yourself! If you can’t beat them, join them. Get into a fighter with beefy guns and melt incoming planes that want to bomb teammates. Light vehicle scouts and then hop into either a heavier fighter or a twin engine. Some good ones are the Fw-190s, J7W2, Typhoon (20mms), p51s (also 20mms), P-38, f-82, bf-110, me-410, A7M2, SM-91/92, and the VB-10s. These planes will not let you down :)
So people with like 380xp can spawn in a jet with bombs. I feel like that's the issue, they're way too cheap. Every battle at around 2 min mark you'll see a plane incoming to bomb somebody. That's not very great for the gameplay.
Also a cool thing would be having something similar like naval scout plane feature. Allowing us to switch between spaa and a tank whenever we want. So you see a plane incoming, park your tank somewhere safe, jump to spaa get the plane(or get destroyed) ,and back to your tank (if no one destroyed it). But also I can see people abusing this mechanic... so I'm not sure.
Or separate gamemode for tank players only, and leave mixed for everyone who enjoy it. They could allow planes to spawn right from the start. Heck they could add naval vessel as well(that probably would require special created maps), to make it truly mix.
But some changes has to be done in my opinion
Perhaps just a limit on the amount of planes that can be in play at any one time. Lets say 2 per team. Once it dies it frees up a spot for another to come in. I hate planes as a tank, but love shooting them down too much to say get rid of them entirely.
A separate game mode I feel like would end up like naval, very very long ques
I would love a separate game mode for tanks only, but I feel like it wouldn't work sadly. They need to raise the cost of spawning in planes by a huge amount, I'm talking well over 150%. And the bigger bomb load you bring in, the more it costs. I played the VFW today and I was on a 5 kill streak, then a trash revenge bomber comes back and kills me. Dude was so bad he only had one kill, but somehow was able to spawn in a good bomber and kill me. Sad state war thunder is in right now
yep, planes too cheap they should ask maybe 30%-50% more of points to get one
@@ThiccYoroi I think everyone would like a tank only game mode. Problem is the entire tank community would play it lol. Then no one would have any reason to play planes (other than just liking Air battles which is probably the minority) and Gaijin would loose a whole trees worth of potential money lol.
I think the best thing about Dollar's content is that it isn't just perfect games and cool kills, he also shows when you get a bad match and you just get screwed (which makes up way more of the actual experience) and he still makes it interesting. I've been enjoying playing the game more myself since watching how he plays.
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"I've been enjoying playing the game more" you should not write stuff like that in public, someone in Gaijin may see it and it will be over. They hate when people doing anything like that in War Thunder...
the thing is, ___Betty___ has to play about 50-100 matches per video, so he can get enough scenes with him dying...
he just too gud to die!
@@Bialy_1 But what if we ALL say we have fun, with everything, and never complain? Then will they just stop updating the game? Seems like a win-win for everyone...
Btw I play for fun and am on my 641st day logging in a row. :p
rule #1 about war thunder. you don’t have fun. ~ 10 year vet
There is only one Mr. Dollar and he must be protected at all times, guys. This man is a treasure. ❤
He's fully capable of protecting himself, have you seen how swol he is? :v
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The plane spam didn't really kick in until roughly two years ago. Before that in most battles you'd see one or two planes in the sky. Then that was it. It basically meant that the people flying at the time knew what they were doing on the ground to efficiently get sp and bring a plane out. Now it's just easy so people spam it.
Good old days. Did Gaijin changed SP requirements?
I don't think it should be that difficult to bring planes in. It would make being an SPAA pretty boring if you only had 1 plane to shoot at all game. But you definitely shouldn't be able to afford a plane after just 1 kill. For a few reasons.
1. It creates plane spam which is annoying.
2. It means that if you aren't a very good pilot and miss a bomb drop you now have spent all your SP and your team has essentially lost a player in the first half of the game. OR you now aimlessly fly around doing not all that much and the opposing team has a numerical advantage on the ground.
@@SCREWBY92 ok but most AA is open top or made of papermache meaning if they try to retaliate against one plane, there will be three more ready to fuck em, and i dont think 4 planes targeting you is very fun, each one of them able to very easily kill you while you have to put in thrice the effort for a crit.
@@LeMeowAu yeah that's what I mean. Cause that's what happens now. But if there was a limit of 2 planes in play per team, like 2 allowed on yours and 2 allowed on the enemies, then you'd have a better chance of survival. They'd have to partner up to try take out AA, or risk getting a CAS kill with AA shooting at them.
Nah, Gaijin made most SPAA better at being a tank destroyer than actual AA.
Except for the pure surface to air missile types of the higher tiers, they will always be viable in the current meta.
Maybe restricting the number of planes in the air per team is a bit much, but definitely restricting how many each player can field could work. I mean if you spawn in a CAS, (fighter bomber) from then on in that game you have to use a different type, like a dedicated fighter, and that also only once. This might encourage flyers to actually do some air to air, helping teh team instead of just farming easy ground kills.
Definitely increase the spawn and repair costs of planes to reflect how much damage they so easily do. Along with only spawning at the airfield. Not half way to the battle, at altitude, and full speed. This may allow the guy who killed the wanna be pilot a chance to fight off any other tanks and relocate, avoiding the revenge bombers.
I think increasing the size of the tank spawn area (make it equal to 1/2-2/3rds of the map edge. Allow ground players to chose where they spawn in this larger area will give players spawning a chance to avoid the spawn campers, both ground and air varieties. The number of times I've had a late spawn and been taken out by a plane camping the spawn is ridiculous.
Deliberate suicide bombing is also a problem. Planes are so cheap to spawn that a lot just turn them into guided missiles and don't care about the cost.
He's ascended beyond anti air.. he's reached the level of ANTI EVERYTHING
SPAE lol
AA : Extremely sweaty trying to take down a plane.
Plane: Sipping coffee while pressing space bar.
Still no 4k... I'm having these issuses for over a month now. On my end shows 4k is available (finished possessing) but once you click on the video it's only 1080p...
It's fine don't ask me i just watching in 480 :)
Play planes urself, why not. It's cool, trust me)
I think only 3 people watch it in 4k so in my opinion don't bother going above 2k I use 1080p all the time
When i do AA i sometimes use the sight to make it easier to hit planes.
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Ah yes, the AMX-13 DCA 40. Or as my friends and I call it, "the crew's portable crematorium" as the turret is loaded with 400rds of good ole 40mm that touch off real easy in my experience.
Also over 90 pen goes through everybody's side armor ar that br 👌🏻
@@DOLLARplays Exactly, the long Bofors is a great multi-purpose gun. Also capable of 'frontally' penetrating a Panther A, D, or F at close range. I love doing that with 37mm and 40mm autocannons, aim just under their gun and your AP will dive through the hull roof.
ZSU-57-2: "first time?"
It‘s just sadly a bad AA. I personaly can be very effective with fast firing guns, but the only real nation that can offer that at low br is germany. I am going to play the btr Zd to find out if it‘s any good, but haven‘t come to fo that yet. America is a total faliure in terms of AA … we need better AAs in geberal.
The M19 and M42 with their ammo on the outside: “Pitiful”
People who say anti-air is a counter are incorrect. It's too easy for planes to simply avoid the anti-air on the map.
Only cocky pilots get shot down by them. And seems like there are three aircraft for every anti-air.
at the mid range the only true anti air is a fighter plane on your side who plays air RB for fun
Nearly all low-tier anti-air are also ridiculously easy to kill as a plane. Most are open-topped (or worse, just having guys standing in the open like the anti-air trucks) and even the ones that are fully enclosed tend to have armour that won't hold up to a .50 cal or 20mm from even a shallow dive.
@@HellbirdIV If you are good then you can easly take more than 5 planes with anty air on low tier. The only problem is when there is 3 planes in the air and they cooperate and making attack on you in the same time.
If you know how to aim, do not just sit in the spawn.. and you also need to wait for proper moment to open fire(do not give the plane info that you are there before you are ready to finish him) then the open top is not a problem.
The mode when you are not fighting against other players is a good way to train you anty air skill, but not on every BR and definitly not on higher BR.
@@Bialy_1 It's too easy for planes to check area and pick solo targets. Unless you're a god on AA killing planes with burst, you're going to give clear hint for a plane to avoid if you start to shoot them.
And that's the another problem, sometimes you have to trust your teammates to do AA job. At least I'm not playing ground battles to kill some fucking planes. I'm here for damn tanks
@@Bialy_1 The problem with this approach is you're not providing cover for your team, who will be getting shredded while you wait in the shadows for your perfect sneaky shot. And even "hiding" doesn't really hide you from the air. As you can see from the video, SPAA is unable to protect their team even if they eventually get the kill.
Aaah yeah, my exact same experience with Anti Air vs Air.
*Hit*, *hit* and another *hit* a second before being strafed/bombed back to garage :')
Playing that 4x HMG SPAA really makes you realise how good the m16 is.
The P.7.T kicks all kinds of ass to be honest, as it's only BR 1.3.
The M16 is definitely better overall, but in 2.7 it's got plenty of competition from other really good AA and faces far more dangerous ground targets it can't destroy.
@@HellbirdIV M13 is also 1.3 BR and it is much nicer AA... it is also more mobile and your driver cabin is not blocking you ability to shot the gun as much as it is the case in P.7.T.
That 14mm guns have nicer punch and more penetration power but in general its much harder to play that vehicle and have fun out of it.
@@HellbirdIV the P.7.T lacks the elevation to make it a decent AA.
Anti air is the most vulnerable to airplanes and choppers. The targeting in ground RB for air should be more like arcade
Or at least give the enemy planes markers like in RB air
I played the VFW today and man, it would be an amazing tank if CAS weren't a thing. Sadly the CAS spam makes it almost impossible to play anything open top or lightly armored. You also cant play anything heavy that moves slowly because you wont be able to move away from a bomb. So basically you cant play any tanks at all in GROUND RB. Maybe if they gave us more anti airs with good proxy fuses we would have a better chance, at least that since I know gaijin wont nerf CAS, they make way too much money from it.
I feel you mate. Well they could just simply increase SP requirements for CAS. But you're right, that's their money maker
Or you can finally move to Tank sim, where's limited amount or lives and much harder control for CAS (also balance is better)
Maybe they could give the flakbus that experimental proxy fuse 88 shell that was in development
I love to watch the shiny, festively adorned planes get yeeted out of the sky. Awesome!
Hats off to whoever edits your videos. I literally have never watched one of these videos without laughing. The comedic timing is so on point
Thanks 😉
8:12
Me after watching 3 m22 or m18 destroying themselves after capturing a Point while I know damn well they bring the P-47 to farm more planes with bombs
7:50 I love the scenes where a German tank drives around the corner with German music. And BOOM! silence 😂😂😂
Since I see a lot of comments complaining about slower firing SPAAs I'd thought I'd leave a few tips that might help. Set your zero to around 500m, follow the plane with your eyes and not the tracer, when in doubt give more lead, if the enemy plane is pretty damn far away you probably shouldn't waste your ammo unless you wanna bait them.
Also, fighters of your own are generally the best counter to CAS, especially in low-mid tier. I would still like to see a cap on plane per team at any one time though (3 per team) cause it would keep people on the ground, avoid SPAA getting ganked on, and allow allied fighters at least a glimmer of hope to get rid of the enemy instead of spawning and getting insta-bonked by 4+ enemy fighters.
Been trying AA, can be quite fun-seems to research parts fast and you get dosh pretty well doo. But god damn I hate how they can keep firing on you as they crash, so they kamikazi you, take out your engines and/or crew and... blargh. What a pain. Going in with the main pack is useful though, you're pehaps less likely to get picked out for a strafing, and more importantly, you can more easily get bombers attacking the caps. Help with caps too, and it can help with the lighter vehicles too, lets the teammates focus on the bigger stuff!
That's because you killed the plane, not the pilot. If he's still shooting at you, shoot at him back while aiming the pilot.
@@benoitbvg2888 then why tf does the game give u a kill? It's clearly not dead (even if it won't survive to get to airbase).
The solution is simple: just don't give the kill until the player is forced to J out or the plane crashes
@@benoitbvg2888 Plane shouldn't have any right to shoot back after the game decides they are destroyed. They are too strong anyways
@@EPE77U I'd prefer something like that. AND limit the amount of planes each team can bring at the same time (like 2 or 3 max)
@@benoitbvg2888 I get that, but I think it would benefit if there was a second's grace before you can't keep firing the plane's guns anymore or something. You've surely been there; they come in to dive, you almost immediately get a 'kill' but because their first few shots killed your engine/driver, you get to have the entire dive's worth of bullets, or worse.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that can't hit the broad side of a barn with those damnable Bofors.
Should they get fused shells???
Yeah they should got proximity But that probably too op cas players gonna reeee
@@snake45aiman i mean, they cried because of the Begleit so now the HE-VT shells for that got nerfed as well
That would definitely level the playingfield
Yeah, I usually rock the M16 at ANY BR and get a good amount of anti-air kills. One match getting 6. But as soon as I switch to the bofors of any nation. I can’t hit a single plane. Even if it’s flying right at me.
@@snake45aiman Proxy would be best, a small envelope...maybe 3m. But could just give them a fused air burst which is historically accurate...it's what they did. Or at least could do. Add a setting before deployment like convergence or bomb fuse timers to set 40mm shells to detonate at X-meters with Y-shrapnel radius baked into the munition.
Keeps the Bofors firmly in WWII, but also makes it....I dunno...somewhat useful. Still ain't gonna beat .50's or fast 20mm....but will at least suck less.
Mr. Dollar graces us with another video! Truly a blessed day to be alive! All seriousness, keep it up Dollar, your videos always give me a good laugh.
Seeing shot down Cas planes, now that does bring a smile to my face.
Even with all anti air slots, the insurmountable skill it takes to kill a plane is a monument compared to the puddle of skill it takes for a plane to kill a tank.
There are so many issues in favor of planes i can't even begin to count them, a tank only gamemode would be much apreciated by all of pure the tankers like myself.
And there are LOTS of us, i think it's to the point that there is a fear that the normal realistic battles gamemode would face longer queue times when not in peak activity. But im CERTAIN, there would always be players willing to play tank only, Tank dueling is FUN, fighting ground to air is not.
I'm sure some people would come back to the game If we would get ground only mode
@@DOLLARplays Yeah, i had a mate who played with me alot, he played sweeden and was constantly malding because of the ramp strv, the constant bombing was the final nail in the coffin for him.
Bring a fighter.
Same thought here, Planes made the ground mode painful because you will at least lose one tank to air attacks while you are involved in tank duels.
That made me leave the game for 2 years only to return and find out it got worse.
@@Gustav_Kuriga did you seriously just tell a guy who specified he wants to play *TANKS* because he finds *TANK* dueling fun to play a plane?
absolute fucking pinnacle of human intelligence right here. second only to anything more intelligent than a lukewarm head of lettuce.
if only each AA was 2 br lower...the things you could do for anti air support.
this is not ground battle...its air battle with tiny use of tanks.
I always get a little sad when the video ends, your content is just so good and funny, thanks dollar for making my day!
I love how even the driver of the AA truck is leaning back. Like, keep your eyes on the road, mate.
Its always good when Dollar plays french
Always a good time when Dollar plays....................................anything.
"whistling in French" 😅😅 my man makes it every time so interesting and enjoyable to watch)
This week has been a tough one, the loss of my grandma, and university is slowly approaching wich gives me a lot of stress.
But everytime I see the notification of Dollar, that stress dissapears
I want to thank you dollar, for all the vids, for helping me through dark times.
Keep up the work and make others like me happy through dark times.
I'm sorry for your loss. Wish you the best for the future. Keep your head up.
May she Rest i heaven o7
Damn sorry for your loss buddy, may she rest in peace. You'll get through it💪🏻
@@DOLLARplays You are such a nice man dollar🙏👑
Sorry for your lost man❤️ I know it's hard but think about the good memories you created together 🙏❤️
Dollar! I love that you're widening your film memes - I cannot say I ever expected to see A Christmas Story here. I grew up with that film - so it gave me a big ol' laugh when I saw The Old Man himself. XD Keep at it, you've got excellent comedic timing!
We need more heroes to slap the pesky planes out of our War Thunder tank battle skies
the biggest cancer is not the plane spam but friendly aircraft spaming need cover while flying as far away from friendly aa as possible.
It would help if SPAA before actual FCS would have something more than just luck and blinding muzzle flash to aim with. It is possible to get better with your aim but that's a rather extreme level of practice in comparison to all other types of gunnery in the game + it will only really work for the specific gun one uses most.
Edit: Aircraft mouse control and 3rd person camera also makes their attack runs far too easy so there isn't a need to slow down at all, contrary to how real life attack runs would go.
People would hate this idea but honestly planes in GRB should be limited to 1st person view, would make bombing and stuff take actual skill.
Surprised to see someone use the Highground meme so nice in that situation. :)
Nice video as always Dollar and show the planes who´s the boss! ;D
At lower BRs the best anti-air is a good fighter. Most people who fly get tunnel vision for ground targets and don't really know how to fight other aircraft. I usually fly my Yak-9B in ground battles up to 7.3 but I've seriously considered bringing some of my better Yaks and more than one just to keep people out of the sky.
Oh man I get absolutely shredded at 1.0 trying to fly CAP
Simple solution. Limit planes to cockpits only. Add more smoke clouds and other weather effects.
for me the best anti air is a fighter with decent climb and energy retention
It's so interesting how he makes War Thunder look easy, but when I going to do something like this I immediately get obliterated across the map
Tips : while you're on the tank and saw cas plane coming and dropped their bombs, quickly press escape and leave vehicle before the bombs detonate.. so they don't get the kills and hopefully they don't have enough point to spawn another vehicle.. i mean there's nothing you can do when cas targeting you with big bombs.. so i rather not giving them point than get killed by cas cancer
Can't wait until that get's fixed like ejecting in planes.
I love dollar’s editing, especially the perfectly cut screams
Those single barrel 37mm and 40mm SPAAs are incredibly tough to use. They either have a pitiable RoF or almost no ammo. They are intensely frustrating.
thats why the only aa that im currently using is the russian 2.7 aa (dont know the name rn)
Wonderful editing, delightful moments !
I love the Bofors but France could use more anti-air. Examples:
AMX VCI with M55 quad mount (quad .50cal)
AMX VCI with a 20mm Oerlikon KAD (same gun from R3)
AMX VCI with *two* 20mm guns
AMX-13 DCA with twin 30mm guns
Panhard M3 with one or two 20mm guns
ERC-20 Kriss with twin 20mm guns
CCKW 353 with 2cm Flakvierling 38 (the Bofors truck seen in the video but with Wirbelwind firepower)
The bofors was a mistake.
dion bouton with 75mm gun
international D40 with 37mm gun
citroentype23U and GMC ACK with 25mm gun
somua MCG AB 140 with 4 20mm HS 404s
M16 GMC with giat's twin 20mm guns
amx13 with 4 20mm mg 151s
and the list goes on and on...
yet we have nothing between 1.7 and 8.0 (usefull at least)
we dont need more cold war autocannons at rank 3, we just need three things:
reasonable incentives to target enemy aircraft instead of just focusing selfishly on ground kills
some kind of warning that yells at the low IQ players who dont even try to lead the target
crew skill based lead indicator at close range
It would also help if you could actually hear planes diving on you and tell the difference between an engine just over the trees and one way above. the amount of times vehiclrs just go silent because gaijin decided to be lazy and have every gun and engine sound be composed of multiple samples playing independently using multiple audio channels. any time there are more than a dozen engines around you they start cutting out because the game engine cant handle all the necessary concurrent channels. braindead game design
There's a lot of options, and still we have only these. 2 of them are better tank destroys than aa, and that rank 1 is probably best spaa up to 8.0 lol
I ike playing AA too, except my AA usually have wings and propellers.
Seriously, a fighter is the best SPAA you can get - you can even intercept CAS before they reach your team!
Hey! Will you ever play with the Ho-I? It is a beast in 2.0, it is moblie, has some armor, good gun depression, and 480 grams of TNT is a 75mm ammo.
Brilliant Mr. DOLLARplays, simply brilliant ! You swat those nasty fly's out of the sky, my good man. Keep up the good work, and amazingly game play/edit/music/ideas ect ect.
Have a nice weekend all.
I’ve always hated how difficult it is to actually hit a plane with AA in this game, compared to how easy it is to kill an AA with a plane.
More like how it is hard to kill planes with any ground vehicle compared with how easily a plane kills any ground target
That Thumbnail is just pure art, love Dollar's humor.
Thats pretty much how it goes when I try to do dedicated AA. Frustratingly inconsistent results.
First the star wars memes and now the Oblivion memes. The videos just keep getting better man!
Well... the planes still invencibles... even for BETTY...
Dollar and players like him make WT fun. Your videos are a great watch and I learn from them sometimes. I do keep an eye out for that Betty person just in case he needs help drop'in Palpatine.
And this is why I have stopped playing tanks entirely. The air is far too oppressive and unbalanced.
Dollar is seriously one of the only War Thunder players I enjoy watching. The humor, edits, gameplay, and that sweet... Sweet accent... I love it lol
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Dollar getting in AA:
« I’m doing my part »
i’m glad i can finally watch this new video! thanks betty!
The baguette guided you're hand.
Really cool to post a video on french tanks for the fête nationale and an amazing one in addition couldn't ask more.
This is a dream come true.Dollar playing a full french lineup THANK YOU!
CASncer. Spawn points needed should be raised. People cashing in too quickly is a huge problem because it completely changes the ground battle dynamic. It goes from tank v tank into tank v tank while panicking and hiding from giant bombs that kill you behind structures, anyways
Extremely true, imo fighter should be 700, CAS 800 and bomber 900, and then MASSIVE costs for payloads, the full P47 payload should be at least 400 sp, so u need 800 + 400 sp for P47, so 1200 sp. Maybe it should be even higher, cuz it isn't so hard to get 1200 sp
Frankly I think the solution is to give non-radar AA some kind of "rough" lead indicator to help shoot down planes that aren't just diving straight for you. Your sphere of influence as an AA vehicle is just so freaking tiny because of how hard leading targets is.
I feel like u should have something like a mix of naval and arcade ground lead indicator, like u have 20 or 30s of "rangefinding" and then u get indicator like arcade, but if u lose visual contact with plane, u need to rangefind again, another 20 or 30s, probably 20s is more balanced
This for Dollar, i was there 3000yrs ago, when you post meme videos on the other channel, gods be praised you have this with one of my favourite hated game ever... much love from Tiril xoxo
I love using that first anti air from. France fully upgraded its traverse speed is insane
Another great video master Betty watched it doing my garden this morning
Love your videos Dollar
As a French Main I j ust want to say I love the French SPAA Tree Truly one of the best in the game AMX-13 DCA is a Beast at Anti-air and Tank Destroyer also keep it up Dollar your content is the best out there!
Well the 13 dca is so outgunned with the arrival of the btr zd for anti air duty.
Though I give you that in anti tank role it's amazing
I feel like the LVT 40 is a good alternative to the 13 DCA as it has 2x50 cal mounted with the gun and it makes it as strong if not stronger than the 13 DCA in my opinion.
You know tha plane SPAM is bad when 2 of the biggest WarThunder UA-camrs have started making anti-CAS videos :D
Who's the other?
specially great vid as always brother, keep it like that i love you
5:10 is AHHH transition always make me chuckle
Something tells me these slow firing slow turret rotation vehicles were never meant to shoot down fighters but bombers
I’m just stoked $$ is in star citizen.
Hope he creates an org for us plebes. Crewing a kraken will be awesomesauce
Great content!!! Keep it up :D
i wonder if real life anti air guns were this uneffective
Considering that real life anti air at that time wasn't as much as hoping for a direct hit, but more of filling the air with shrapnel. I guess you can say "it depends"
Well, real life had alot of them shooting at the sky at the same time and eventually hit a bomber
I think the main problem is how easy it is to drop a bomb. Especially with bombers like pe8
Just increase spawn cost, fixed pretty easily, only actual good players who get some kills will be able to spawn it
Also it's easier to drop bombs in CAS than in bombers, while bombers need to drop from high height, cuz ull be shot down otherwise, the enemy has plenty of time to run (unless it's pe8 with 5ton), CAS or any plane with a bomb can drop from low height and destroy efficiently any target, wich is cancer when it is revenge, 99% of times
Only counter to cas is a fighter and camping the airspawn. So they cant even get to the battlefield to drop their bombs. I do that sometimes just to fuck with CAS players. They dont even look around or realize you are on their 6. Before its too late.
8:43 a fighter just shrugs off a 40mm HE round. While irl that is enough to wipe off a tail of a bomber. Yep absolutely boLaNcEd
If I ever saw dollar plays in a game I would go AA and protec him from CAS.
Perfect outro and beautiful vid keep it going mate
Thank u dollar for all your videos keep going, once more the editing is Legendary
Best editing on youtube! Always so funny!
Always makes me happy seeing a new Dollarplays video
The most exciting things in Dollars videos is soundtracks))
I love it.
Anti-Air bois! if there's enough of us out there we can Balance War Thunder ourselves. Great vid as always!
Again really good video, thank you it made my day^^
I'm 50 / 50 on planes, there always so fun to fly or to see dog fighting or dive bombin, but also so frustrating when they dive bomb you and then when half the time they slam into the ground :/ I think they should either cost more sp, or only be like 1 allowed with your line up maybe for ground rb with a higher sp cost on top.
I also had a thought, alot of the bombs end up in spawn, maybe a longer spawn protection specifically against bombs and plane cannons would help.
Palpatine just bullying you again. We need Master Betty's help pushing him back.
Another wonderful video DOLLAR.
I wanted go to bed and sleep but this crazy guy Upload a freaking Video...
Been waiting patiently for your upload, and it didn't disappoint at all.
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Dollar, you have the most well edited vids of any WT CC, hands down. All the little edits, especially the generous use of Mr. Bean and Arnold lmaoo. Keep up the good work man! Look forward to your videos, whenever a new one drops I actually scream, stay fast and lob brass m8 o7 🙏
Thanks man 💪🏻
Anytime! I hadn’t heard of Tarkov till I watched one of your vids a couple years back now, and I decided to play it specifically because I loved your content on it lol. You’re one of those people who is just designed to bring others joy, and I strive to be that. I hope you have a great day man 🤘
That's the way I love dollar plays, after suffering doing comebacks big time!))
0:19 [THANOS]: "Fine... I'll Do It Myself..."
man going into 7.0+ battle with a 4.3 spaa is pain especially with slow rate of fire guns. Hope to see more spaa for the trees that need it : France obviously, Italy, UK need it aswell, Sweeden too but I don't know if they have any options for that.
Also you could have taken the LVT4-40 to get the french derpy spaa Quartet :)
I agree on the bomb loaded plane spawn point being maybe too low. Someone thought of a limitation of planes in the air per team (like in arcade) it could be nice
anyway nice video as always
The P.7.T is so funny to me. Like, "Hey, France, build an AA platform, but our only requirement is that it can aim up, the direction most enemy planes will be approaching from."
France: ... [immediately beefs it]
That poor AR234 had no idea what he had coming 🤣
I'm always using 2 anti-air vehicles because I'm so done about plane spamming I'm at rank 3.7 but gosh I can't even imagine hows plane spamming on higher ranks
It's enjoyable climbing / getting into cheeky spots with an AA.
Now play the AMX DCA 40 as a tank destroyer :>
thanks for a video today. I was sad today and that helped me!
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You make a game I never gave much thought to, seem like a blast. love your videos man.
I've only been playing this for 4 days and I can say it's really fun. I see how people can be upset at the grind to the most ba things but it's a fun journey so far
@@nonethelessfirst8519 Just wait when you gonna start noticing the Russian BIAS and the premium vehicle BIAS... not to mention the ATGM and helicopters on the higher BR.
Once again delivered perfectly thanks for your work.👍🏻
The new joker memes are golden. Keep using them in videos!
Dollar my friend, you said it yourself! If you can’t beat them, join them. Get into a fighter with beefy guns and melt incoming planes that want to bomb teammates. Light vehicle scouts and then hop into either a heavier fighter or a twin engine. Some good ones are the Fw-190s, J7W2, Typhoon (20mms), p51s (also 20mms), P-38, f-82, bf-110, me-410, A7M2, SM-91/92, and the VB-10s. These planes will not let you down :)