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  • Michael Wittman didn't know, when he enlisted at 19, what kind of fate awaited him fighting for the Axis Powers. Regarded as one of the Nazi's most effective and feared tank commanders, his death is shrouded in mystery. How was he defeated, and by who?
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  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 3 роки тому +104

    One of the things that gets left out of the Wittman legend - is that he had a really good gunner. I would say that one of the major reasons for Wittman's success - was the skill of that gunner.
    .

    • @chriskingston4270
      @chriskingston4270 3 роки тому +15

      Bobby Voll

    • @joespeciale5875
      @joespeciale5875 3 роки тому +8

      Which, Wittman being a senior tank commander, probably was able to select the best crewmen for his team.

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw 3 роки тому +5

      @@joespeciale5875 I don't remember. The biography I read on Wittman was ... some time ago so I don't remember the details of his career. I do however remember the skill of Voll. That guy was really good.
      .

    • @tedillg1364
      @tedillg1364 3 роки тому +3

      @@joespeciale5875 Voll und Wittmann were together for much of the war. Toward the end Voll was given his own Tiger. At some point it was knocked out of the fray and Voll ended back in Witmann tank

    • @romuloambay9624
      @romuloambay9624 3 роки тому +4

      together, wittman and his gunner an enlisted personnel received the knight's cross, a very rare occurence in the german war force. .

  • @davepritchard283
    @davepritchard283 4 роки тому +93

    I watched a documentry about Kurt Knispel, he helped out a Russian POW who was getting grief off a German SS soldier, he put him in his place and his career suffered for it. A true tank commander. As an ex-Tankie myself I can respect that.

    • @clara429
      @clara429 3 роки тому +8

      Dave Pritchard , i think he was totally different to the Germany officers , long hair , and look like he did not value his range , he die at 23 years old , just a baby .

    • @berndf.k.1662
      @berndf.k.1662 3 роки тому +1

      I guess this story is rather a legend than reality to confirm the post-war narrative about the difference between Waffen SS and Wehrmacht. Or do you have clear evidence ?

    • @berndf.k.1662
      @berndf.k.1662 3 роки тому +4

      @@clara429 not really. The Luftwaffe was full of such officers and also the midget warriors of the Kriegsmarine. Besides the hair fashion gradually 1943 and radically in 1944 changed from short to long. May grandfather - Waffen SS - told me the onliest regulation was to have the ears free of hair so they combed their long hairs just back over the ears. Once in battle or after it the hairs in diarra looked the same Knispel style. By the way in 1944 no German front officer cared about things like hair order.

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 3 роки тому +56

    To Michael Wittmann's score of 138 tanks. It should be noted that he also destroyed 132 artillery and anti-tank guns, the latter of which worried him more than other tanks. So, his total kills would be 270. Quite a feat. When referring to Wittmann, and his kills we need to say, "Wittmann and his crew." They were, after all, a great team. Please note that not all of his kills were not done with a Tiger tank because his first tank was a STUG III. When the screen goes black, is that where we cut for some TV ads? "Now, gunner, don't fire until you see the serial numbers on their hull." Wittmann is the ideal example of a "Lone Wolf." Unlike Sherman crews, who painted nicknames, like "Fury" on their tanks, Tiger crews painted "Kill Rings" on the 88's gun barrel. I would like play a multi-player game with the graphics used in this video. Finally, Ian Flemming was a British intelligence officer during WW2. It's said that he used Wittman tank number, 007, when he created James Bond!

    • @brandonfields5928
      @brandonfields5928 Рік тому +2

      Guess that "Panzer chocolate" works, talk about aggressively engaging the opposition, dang.

    • @weirdopokemon2199
      @weirdopokemon2199 Рік тому

      It should also be known the German who killed more tanks them him had a attitude and stuff he killed 189 or something like that. Watch the videos on him I forgot his name. Whitman was the most decorated tank ace. He was the guy who killed the most they didn't decorate

    • @weirdopokemon2199
      @weirdopokemon2199 Рік тому +2

      Kurt knispel I believe my friend look em up

    • @CaptLiberator
      @CaptLiberator Рік тому

      pl

    • @daveybyrden3936
      @daveybyrden3936 9 місяців тому +4

      "urban legends" repeated by you as if they were facts.... "it is said..."
      Yes, "it is said" by people who don't know what they're talking about. Here, have some real facts:
      - German tank crews DID paint names on their tanks. I could show you a dozen photos of them on Tigers alone.
      - Wittman's unit was very reluctant to paint rings on their Tigers' guns. They didn't want to attract attention. That's also why they didn't have a Tiger numbered "001".
      - There is no way that Fleming would use Wittman's number "007". He wouldn't have known where or when Wittman died, and Tiger "007" didn't belong to Wittman anyway, he borrowed it that one time.

  • @Lee7559
    @Lee7559 3 роки тому +52

    His tank number was 007 !
    So he was the German James Bond but in a tank !
    How cool is that

    • @timodasbach9435
      @timodasbach9435 3 роки тому +3

      The real James Bond was Otto Skorzeny.

    • @cyrosubod2317
      @cyrosubod2317 3 роки тому

      @@timodasbach9435 bruh hes badass af

    • @barrymccokiner7559
      @barrymccokiner7559 2 роки тому +1

      He had to borrow the 007 tank. The numbers relate to squadron, troop, individual tank etc

    • @AwesomeBeatles
      @AwesomeBeatles 2 роки тому

      I heard he was shaken , not stirred

    • @holgermessner851
      @holgermessner851 Рік тому +1

      No idea. But as mentioned,the 007 was taken to write James Bond novels. When I got drafted to the German Bundeswehr in 01.1982, I heard my own social insurance number the 1st time. It ends with 007. I always had to listen to: Look there comes 007…. I didn’t gave any thoughts about it until I moved to Canada and one Immigration officer asked my social insurance number and it started again. Bond just arrived. - Anyway. Watching this history documentary I wonder myself. Absolutely no way that tanks would move without infantry protection. That was suicidal! How I know? I was a infantry tank commander and the big guys always said: After you guys!

  • @Tyrfingr
    @Tyrfingr 4 роки тому +166

    Not to be like that but. Any Ace would tell you, that they wouldn't reach their success without an ace crew behind them.

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 4 роки тому +9

      That is why when he was awarded his medal, he accepted it with his crew present.

    • @gayle1137
      @gayle1137 4 роки тому

      Even rreyeyrrryeyrtürrteye

    • @tkgus2408
      @tkgus2408 4 роки тому +1

      You were like that

    • @vonn4017
      @vonn4017 3 роки тому +4

      Wittman kept the same crew with him. at least as long as they lived

    • @KristerAndersson-nc8zo
      @KristerAndersson-nc8zo 3 роки тому

      True but I Believe his gunner also got the Knights cross.

  • @Smitherrrrs
    @Smitherrrrs 3 роки тому +27

    when the host kept grabbing the guys collection pieces and you could see the guy was clearly reluctant to let him handle them, i cringed, that man spent his whole life collecting those pieces, if he dont want you touching them, gotta respect that

    • @Yabuddy53
      @Yabuddy53 3 роки тому +2

      Ya that was awkward

  • @buninparadise9476
    @buninparadise9476 4 роки тому +432

    Kurt Knispel was the Top ace.

    • @ronaldblythe7559
      @ronaldblythe7559 4 роки тому +13

      Oh yeah? You watched him.. and counted all of his kills?

    • @buninparadise9476
      @buninparadise9476 4 роки тому +83

      @@ronaldblythe7559 I am Kurt Knispel

    • @Mrtweet81
      @Mrtweet81 4 роки тому +7

      Don’t you read the comments before you post, this has been commented several times before you.

    • @sam8404
      @sam8404 4 роки тому +17

      @@Mrtweet81 who cares?

    • @johnwoodcock3208
      @johnwoodcock3208 4 роки тому +5

      LAH trumps all!

  • @danielfalcone7172
    @danielfalcone7172 3 роки тому +7

    Kurt Knispel was the scariest tank killer. His records are unbeatable, but yes, Wittmann was an élite so was Otto Carius. Panzer aces were superb

    • @clara429
      @clara429 3 роки тому +1

      Daniel Falconi , yes he was , and he was only 23 years old when he die, war have no winners , no even one , but i respect the valor of this men , because they were soldiers and they follow orders ,

    • @DannyBoy777777
      @DannyBoy777777 8 місяців тому

      There is no evidence for any of Knispel's claims. None.

  • @robertmaybeth3434
    @robertmaybeth3434 3 роки тому +5

    Especially at 16:16 I am amazed by your attention to detail for finding exactly where the action with Wittman's Tiger took place. Anybody that's read accounts of WW2 battles, has to wonder exactly what the terrain looked like, in this case we get to find out exactly what it looks like.

    • @daveybyrden3936
      @daveybyrden3936 3 роки тому

      Don't thank "timeline" for that.
      Thank the historians who actually went and found this out and told the rest of us.

  • @Jstepp326
    @Jstepp326 2 роки тому +4

    Great documentary first time hearing about wittman, it’s nice to hear story’s on foreign military leaders n aces, my grandfather was a Sherman tank commander who fought in Belgium , my dad and uncles said he never spoke a word about the war even when they tried to get him to and he died when I was younger so never got to talk to him about the war when I became intrigued, I mean before in a tank basically means ur on the front lines and can only imagine what they saw and experienced

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron 4 роки тому +12

    Having discovered Hans Von Luck, Carius and others of late I'm bound to say I feel this propagation of SS Unterfuhrer Wittman is wasted with his place in the mainstream history books assured . Thanks again for your work and effort uploading this.

  • @The23Anonymous
    @The23Anonymous 3 роки тому +190

    Im a German and i must give the allied tankers much respect for their bravery.
    It must be a terrible feeling of doom, terror and fear if you see your shells bouncing off into nowhere while the 88mm gun slowly takes aim for you...
    But nontheless, they continued their mission.

    • @The23Anonymous
      @The23Anonymous 3 роки тому +5

      @@1videofiend What are you talking about? Your timelink goes into nowhere special.
      And of course Wittman was brave... I mean, he is the highest decorated ace of maybe all time, so why should i point this out once more?

    • @robertmaybeth3434
      @robertmaybeth3434 3 роки тому +27

      Hello fellow German, as ethnic German, I can tell you the allied tank commanders sure did a lot of lying, or just not saying the weaknesses of the Sherman! The amazing thing was, the British captured a Tiger in perfect condition in N. Africa, had over A YEAR to analyse it, and still had no truly effective counter at all until 1945 (at which time the M26 Pershing was available in numbers). Patton decided the Sherman was good enough, since he wasn't in a Sherman crew i guess, when I believe he should have fast-tracked introduction of the Pershing tank as fast as possible! A Sherman going against a German cat, or even the Panzer IV, was almost suicidal since even the Pzkfw IV could easily outshoot the Sherman's weak gun from 1,000 meters away....

    • @williamredfern5504
      @williamredfern5504 3 роки тому +7

      @@robertmaybeth3434 England invented the tank to their loss in WW2, (my farther served right through desert and Europe) But I admire the panzer crews, Britain made rubbish tanks and be honest still do,and told lies, and also try to avoid tank battles, to have to use shermans says it all,, it's not politically correct or patriotic for me to say this but who cares,,

    • @williamredfern5504
      @williamredfern5504 3 роки тому +7

      @@robertmaybeth3434 British and US high comand should have been imprisoned for criminal incompetence,,,, in this day and age they should now named and shamed for their offspring live with,,,, For the rubbish tanks they issued to the crews to die in

    • @robertmaybeth3434
      @robertmaybeth3434 3 роки тому +5

      @@williamredfern5504 Damn right. It was Patton who chose the Sherman, since the M26 Pershing, which would have saved thousands of American lives, was not quite ready by 1944. But the M26 could, and ought to, have been fast-tracked the way the Germans did for the Panther! Patton showed a very cavalier attitude towards his men's lives, plenty of things he did shows that, the only American commander that is worse I can think of is that idiot Halsey (who sailed his fleets into hurricanes, TWICE, killing hundreds of US sailors).

  • @Mrtweet81
    @Mrtweet81 4 роки тому +202

    “One of the men killed in the action was Germany’s highest scoring panzer ace” Oh, so this is a film about Kurt Knispel then?

    • @theundenaiblebobtheundenai1911
      @theundenaiblebobtheundenai1911 4 роки тому +27

      Yeah indeed Kurt knispel , you also watch marc Felton production

    • @Mrtweet81
      @Mrtweet81 4 роки тому +10

      theundenaiblebob theundenaiblebob You know it, Dr. Felton is the man! But he called him Kurt Knipsel though...

    • @ricardocorbie6803
      @ricardocorbie6803 4 роки тому +26

      Kurt was the man,, but this warrior was ostracized by his superiors because he fought But hated mistreatments of the vanquished! He went unrecognized!! Whereas Whitman was heralded!! Such a shame!!

    • @pillager6190
      @pillager6190 4 роки тому +6

      @@ricardocorbie6803 ah. That answered my question. SS v. Wehrmacht. Thx

    • @Tellgryn
      @Tellgryn 4 роки тому

      @@ricardocorbie6803 Wrong as I posted below much of what you think you know of him is made up.

  • @hamonryechinaski180
    @hamonryechinaski180 3 роки тому +43

    Can you imagine how things would have gone with anything like parity of numbers or without allied domination of the skies?
    The abilities of even the scratch German battle groups and their commanders are immense. It has to be respected.

    • @noahsagutch8314
      @noahsagutch8314 2 роки тому +6

      Tigers had lots of problems with them
      They'd break down lots and spare parts were rare
      If you got them they'd brake anyways
      Fuel was rare as well
      They weren't unstoppable machines that everyone thinks they are
      Yes they were deadly but not indestructible

    • @harveybrown37
      @harveybrown37 2 роки тому +2

      Artillery superiority and logistics alone were enough.

    • @austinmartin5446
      @austinmartin5446 Рік тому

      @@harveybrown37 no air superiority not artillery

  • @darkryde1
    @darkryde1 3 роки тому +5

    Wittman was certainly the most glamorised German tank ace. Someday I hope to go see the combat area.

  • @OddityDK
    @OddityDK 4 роки тому +24

    The moral grandstanding at the end was uncalled for. I don’t need to be reminded who the bad guys were, thank you. Nothing about Wittman’s heroism, courage or abilities need to be viewed in the light of who he fought for or why, it’s irrelevant in that context.

    • @cybereus836
      @cybereus836 4 роки тому +11

      It was super unnecessary. We get it he fought for the Germans and was part of an SS Panzer Battalion. Doesn't make him any less brave, or any less of a hero.

    • @terrynolan5831
      @terrynolan5831 4 роки тому +4

      its completely within context and worth reminding people, you don't think that ...your opinion , not mine

    • @cybereus836
      @cybereus836 4 роки тому +9

      @@terrynolan5831 it's really not? He was a Tank Ace for a country that didn't end up on the right side of things. He's fighting the war not leading it.

    • @LTA_Design
      @LTA_Design 4 роки тому +5

      They were indoctrinated they thought they were fighting for the good guys just like America thought they were the “good guys” in Vietnam and the British thought they were when they were colonising

    • @daveyev5300
      @daveyev5300 3 роки тому

      @@LTA_Design Yeah we thought wrong, should've cleaned the land before colonising.

  • @TheRhoads6
    @TheRhoads6 4 роки тому +14

    Editor: How many explosions should we add?
    Director: Yes.

    • @andrewescocia2707
      @andrewescocia2707 3 роки тому

      the cgi is so damn good, it's like watching a movie

    • @Seygem
      @Seygem 3 роки тому

      @@andrewescocia2707 lmao. It really isn't.

    • @andrewescocia2707
      @andrewescocia2707 3 роки тому

      @@Seygem wow look at mr fancy pants with his 21st century movies

    • @Seygem
      @Seygem 3 роки тому

      @@andrewescocia2707 lmao. look at any "modern" game, movie, or even a lot of other documentaries. they outshine this. by far. it's not like watching a movie, it's like watching an early 2000s documentary. (outstanding coincidence, given what this is)

    • @andrewescocia2707
      @andrewescocia2707 3 роки тому

      @@Seygem lmao indeed friend lmao all afternoon

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo6793 3 роки тому +3

    Brave tanks officer with faithfulness emotions he had of his leader at that time...nice video thanks for sending

  • @mxblyxky
    @mxblyxky 3 роки тому +8

    What happened is that General SS Panzer Meyer in the desperation of the situation, sent Wittmann on a suicide mission. Even the powerful Tiger can't move without monitoring the armored infantry in half-track vehicles, which has a much larger field of vision and protects the tanks from stealth attacks. Nor has there been a vanguard of Clarifiers with light, fast armored vehicles whose mission is to recognize the terrain ahead and avoid surprise attacks and ambushes. So the tigers, contrary to the classic rules of combat that had existed since Alexander the Great and during the Roman Empire, where there were expert clarifiers officers, advanced without any auxiliary protection and with limited vision, relying only on luck and fell into a crossfire ambush where the tanks were fireflies of sufficient caliber to destroy them.

    • @bepolite6961
      @bepolite6961 Рік тому

      Controversy still exists over whether it was a Canadian or British Firefly that accounted for Wittman and the three other Tigers destroyed with him in his attack. One thing is for certain though. It was the British 17 pounder mounted in the Shermans that did the work.

  • @justcallmesuzzie
    @justcallmesuzzie 2 роки тому +2

    Someone I know was a tanker in the early to mid 1980's and I remember him studying the tactics of this tank commander and talking about it to me.

  • @fatdad64able
    @fatdad64able 4 роки тому +10

    It must be devastating for morale when you cannot rely on your tank to protect you and to realize that you're not fighting on equal terms as far as armour and gunpower.

    • @unnaturalselection8330
      @unnaturalselection8330 4 роки тому +2

      On the other hand, it also has to do a number on the morale when you destroy 4 enemy tanks, the 5th one gets you, and you realize that from a production standpoint, you just lost the materiel battle anyway.

  • @shiloh6519
    @shiloh6519 4 роки тому +4

    Very well done, and the ending was spot on. Thank you

  • @coloringwithd
    @coloringwithd 4 роки тому +27

    I want to say this was interesting but perhaps I should say informational. I lost a lot of family in that war. It's really sad. War sucks.

    • @dkolle3446
      @dkolle3446 4 роки тому +10

      it really is! My grandfather served in the german navy, his brother in the army and I used to play with a model of the Bismarck he had at his home...don't listen to anybody who says war is some sort of an option!
      I was very young but you could tell what an impact these years had on him...so many young men lost their lifes and the ones that survived were robbed of their youth and innocence!

    • @menwithven8114
      @menwithven8114 3 роки тому +3

      @@dkolle3446 I'm an American of German descent and had family fighting on both sides! Michael Wittmann was my great uncle and actually came very close to fighting Wittmanns for the Americans. I hold the same last name and have talked to the vets on the American side of my family about him. They all held him in extremely high regard.

  • @rodneyjones7387
    @rodneyjones7387 4 роки тому +28

    Kurt knispel had the most kills but because he introvened when ss guard mistreatment of a Soviet soldier. From that point on he was treated differently never received a knights Cross and was awarded medals much slower.

    • @robertmaybeth3434
      @robertmaybeth3434 3 роки тому +2

      for whatever good the medals are good for except prestige. I submit that once you had the Iron cross, you could show it to a whole lot of people before you met somebody that understood the different grades of the iron cross ("Iron cross; ironcross with diamonds; then iron cross with diamonds, swords, pearls, cubit zirconium and pez dispenzer attached" etc.)

    • @williamredfern5504
      @williamredfern5504 3 роки тому +4

      @@robertmaybeth3434 Here in GB I obtained an Iron Cross with the crown and 1914 and below the eagal of the Third Riech 1939,, I don't know who received it ,,also a German paratroopers helmet found on a riverbank in scilly plus many more items,, but I treat them with the same respect as my late farthers medals,,

    • @williamredfern5504
      @williamredfern5504 3 роки тому

      More fool him

    • @hypedpanther6464
      @hypedpanther6464 3 роки тому

      He was also a sudeten german, not a pure blood german.

  • @simonac688.
    @simonac688. 3 роки тому +7

    Has a proud Canadian i must honor these brave Men ...Thank You

  • @johnadams5489
    @johnadams5489 4 роки тому +7

    The UK solder that destroyed the first three Tiger tanks crossing that field said that "Anyone that goes into another country to kill is a criminal. They may have been heroes to them, but not to me". Well said. Excellent investigation. Wittman's tank was hit with an armor piecing round from the Canadians at 143 meters away, the fuel and ammunition exploded and blew the turret off the tank. The crew all perished.

    • @inpersonaDK
      @inpersonaDK 4 роки тому

      ....and we all know UK once where an Empire :) Anyway wast of so many young strong men in the western world be course of these power and hungry elites

    • @rodrigogalecio8928
      @rodrigogalecio8928 4 роки тому +4

      Well said: "Anyone that goes into another country to kill is a criminal", I agree, and so, the British Empire is the biggest crime in history!

    • @Mrtweet81
      @Mrtweet81 4 роки тому +2

      So the British soldier was a criminal, since he went into France to kill people?

    • @pillager6190
      @pillager6190 4 роки тому +1

      @@Mrtweet81 by his personal opinion? Yes. Not mine

    • @mottthehoople693
      @mottthehoople693 4 роки тому

      @@rodrigogalecio8928 hes was an old man..definitely dead now

  • @bombasticlovalova3186
    @bombasticlovalova3186 4 роки тому +4

    One of the best documentary. Well explained. Must Watch if you love WW 2 history.

    • @zirkoleonardi129
      @zirkoleonardi129 4 роки тому

      Jose how can you say it is "one of the best" . Please explain.

  • @williamredfern5504
    @williamredfern5504 3 роки тому +21

    In 1944 France my farther was Brittish artillery gun spotter, at close quarters he watched 6 US shermans taken out 3 at a time by a single Tiger, Later it was hit by an RAF plane with a rocket, when he checked it out there were quite a few rings painted round the gun barrel,, round the turret it said ,,May the Valkyries take Me,,
    if Valhalla exists I guess they will be there,,

  • @raminrezaei1893
    @raminrezaei1893 4 роки тому +5

    Nice documentary , thanks for uploading it , I really enjoyed watching it , please upload more ww2 documentaries like this

  • @adriantowe278
    @adriantowe278 3 роки тому +7

    His gunner Bobby wall was the best he could not have done it without him he survived the war respect Bobby rip

  • @user6008
    @user6008 3 роки тому +21

    So, Wittman drove right into an ambush. Which was a fitting end for someone so skilled at ambushing allied tanks. live by the sword, die by the sword.

    • @jmy7622
      @jmy7622 2 роки тому

      A fitting end? He was hyped up by propaganda, there were many other very capable German tankers but as with their pilots they usually fought until they died or the war ended , no rotation.It seems he fought by the rules, I would have liked for him to survive, he would have had some good stories to tell, but it was war but I don't wish death on anyone unless they're a war criminal.

  • @bokajtob96
    @bokajtob96 3 роки тому +13

    Note: The host is mispronouncing "Leibstandarte" : it should sound like "Laib..." not "Leeb..." Saying "Leebstandarte" is like saying the Love guards not the Body (Life) guards.

  • @johnleary4597
    @johnleary4597 4 роки тому +15

    We should give the gunners the same treatment as the commanders, same with drivers and radioman, theyre a unit working together. With one of them removed the tank is not functional any longer.

  • @unballisticr.i.pdadloveand7055
    @unballisticr.i.pdadloveand7055 4 роки тому +3

    Well Documented and put together 👌

  • @fabiosunspot1112
    @fabiosunspot1112 2 роки тому +1

    The fighting in normandy became so intense that over a million men was slugging it out in a 50 mile area,this was a fight to the death, despite popular believe they wasn't many tigers in normandy, while the allies had thousands of shermans the germans had less than one hundred tigers in normandy...

  • @Sturminfantrist
    @Sturminfantrist 4 роки тому +203

    Highest scoring tank ace is a lie , Kurt Knispel was the highest Ace

    • @222welder
      @222welder 4 роки тому +18

      It took less than 30 seconds for the writers to get something wrong.

    • @tonyromano6220
      @tonyromano6220 4 роки тому +1

      Wasn’t Kurt actually artillery?

    • @222welder
      @222welder 4 роки тому +8

      @@tonyromano6220 I'm fairly certain that Knispel was just a tanker. Wittman, however, started in armored cars and did some time in assault guns I think. My memory might be failing me though.

    • @michaelsexton70
      @michaelsexton70 4 роки тому +9

      a quick wikipedia check notes that the numbers for both Kurt Knispel and Michael Wittman are in question.

    • @PlacidDragon
      @PlacidDragon 4 роки тому +4

      @@michaelsexton70 They are always going to be (same as the air aces having their numbers questioned, etc)..

  • @evilfingers4302
    @evilfingers4302 4 роки тому +19

    Michael Wittmann wasn't the only Tank Ace that racked up more than 100 confirmed tank kills, there were others, such as Kurt Knispel and Otto Carius.

    • @suzyqualcast6269
      @suzyqualcast6269 3 роки тому +2

      Forget thee not Sgt Ernst Barkmann, an expert with a wrecked panzer in Normandy.

    • @selfdo
      @selfdo 2 роки тому

      @@suzyqualcast6269 Barkmann's Corner.

    • @bepolite6961
      @bepolite6961 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, but they were not SS, if they had been, they would have been wearing has much neck jewellery has Wittman.

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh 3 роки тому +58

    Kurt Knispel was the Germans top boy not Wittman.

    • @frankdietz9413
      @frankdietz9413 3 роки тому +6

      You actually cant tell who scored higher. Both of them never counted the tanks they destroyed. This is just estimated and could be way lower or higher for both of them.
      And by the way, knispel was a gunner for most of his kills, not a commander.

    • @hanschouwman4536
      @hanschouwman4536 3 роки тому +2

      @@frankdietz9413 he became a commander only he hit an ss man for mistreatment of a Russian POW

    • @YKNDR34D
      @YKNDR34D 3 роки тому

      yes

    • @jeffreywhite7899
      @jeffreywhite7899 3 роки тому

      My vote is for Otto Carius.

    • @tarl1812
      @tarl1812 3 роки тому

      It's a debate that will never get resolved most never keep track unlike fighter pilots, but in a photo of Wittman it shows his tank and circles on the barrel counting his kills so he did seem to have counted so his total of 135 is most likely correct, how many Kurt got 168?? All were exceptional Tank men which died in battle.

  • @dillingersam588
    @dillingersam588 3 роки тому +4

    Great Documentary
    Thank you so much 😀

  • @myunknownland9272
    @myunknownland9272 3 роки тому +1

    This is so interesting, I thank you for posting.

  • @dockmasterted
    @dockmasterted 3 роки тому +3

    As you all should know, In German the letters W and V the sounds when spoken are switched .... So the "W" in WITTMAN is pronounced like a "v" ... making Wittman ....Vittman

  • @markb3806
    @markb3806 4 роки тому +4

    Even with the 17 pounder, the Firefly was not an equal of the Tiger I. The Tiger was still a somewhat better tank than the Sherman (once on the battlefield). It's thicker armor meant that it could take out a Firefly from distances beyond a Firefly's ability to penetrate the Tiger I's armor. The Firefly had a better gun than the Sherman for certain and could take out a Tiger I but it was not an equal on the battlefield.

    • @springamerican3757
      @springamerican3757 4 роки тому +2

      Not on that day it wasn't.

    • @daveyev5300
      @daveyev5300 3 роки тому

      Shermans were good at hiding, right place at the right time.

    • @joshuabrown3525
      @joshuabrown3525 10 місяців тому +2

      The problem was that the Black Baron was so close to them at about 170 meters that even those small guns could knock him out. Let's not forget that the Canadians with their short barrelled 76mm guns still could do damage, and in the right place; he had no chance. Of course, the Canadians didn't even know who the heck this guy was. They saw a tiger and a they knocked it out.

  • @dioraranel2000
    @dioraranel2000 4 роки тому +2

    I live in Sherbrooke (home base for the Sherbrooke Fusiliers regiment - now hussars). Never heard that story before. But we still have ''The Bomb'' as a reminder of these incredible times.

    • @suzyqualcast6269
      @suzyqualcast6269 3 роки тому

      Maybe read After the Battle Panzers in Normandy, Eric Lefevres. Jean Paul Pallud identified the site of Wittman wreck and his and his crews bodies, thereupon to be interred at la Cambe.

    • @dioraranel2000
      @dioraranel2000 3 роки тому

      @@suzyqualcast6269 Ohhh thanks for the tip. Just ordered a used copy.

  • @benjaminc8789
    @benjaminc8789 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting to see all the exhibits of his tank . But he’s keen handling that AP shell lol

  • @rayruiz5871
    @rayruiz5871 3 роки тому +3

    My understanding Whitman yes is an ace but Kurt was the Ace of aces of tankers in the German military Panzers. Both were terrifying to face

  • @TestAccount-wn2tc
    @TestAccount-wn2tc 3 роки тому +7

    At 13:04 a Soviet IS-2 is shown firing, but is presented as a Firefly.

  • @heritage_isimportant7297
    @heritage_isimportant7297 2 роки тому +1

    Absolute top notch investigation by Norm Christie

  • @kathygrey1433
    @kathygrey1433 3 роки тому +7

    You have to admit that his rampage at Villers-Bocage was pretty hilarious - sight! BOOM! Sight! BOOM! Sight! BOOM! The crew was probably laughing inside their tank, it was just so ridiculously easy.

    • @waynerobert7986
      @waynerobert7986 26 днів тому

      Wittmann lost 5 very expensive Tigers that day at Villers Bocage. The German losses that day were more expensive than the British losses.

  • @bobsagget823
    @bobsagget823 4 роки тому +11

    My father was wounded in the Bocage 25 Aug, 1944. He was in the 29th Division, 115th Infantry, Company F. He was wounded by a mortar shell tree burst. I still have the piece of shell.

  • @fabiosunspot1112
    @fabiosunspot1112 2 роки тому +4

    Whitman ended up holding up the british for weeks with that one brave move,he was awarded the iron cross with oak leaves and diamonds the highest award given to any tank commander at that time, isn't that something 🤭🤔

    • @rons4778
      @rons4778 2 роки тому

      And achieved absolutely nothing

  • @DavidLee-xi1of
    @DavidLee-xi1of Рік тому +2

    Awesome investigation. Germany had several great tank commanders. Whittman knew it was a suicide mission. He knew the odds were against him.

  • @bobbyoty
    @bobbyoty 3 роки тому +2

    soldier like that should have serve the benefit of humanity and not the evil that exist in our midst.

  • @usalives2562
    @usalives2562 4 роки тому +11

    A real hero of the world we need more like Wittman!

    • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
      @bezahltersystemtroll5055 4 роки тому +2

      Meh. I think we need more brilliant scientists.

    • @neganrex5693
      @neganrex5693 4 роки тому +1

      @@bezahltersystemtroll5055 We need scientists that can get it right from time to time than push idiot agendas on command.

    • @shad0wrune
      @shad0wrune 4 роки тому +2

      No we don’t. All are fine 6 feet under.

    • @springamerican3757
      @springamerican3757 4 роки тому

      You mean more dead Nazi's?

  • @xracingleague
    @xracingleague 4 роки тому +8

    Actually it explode itself because the Tiger cannot contain the pure AWESOMENESS of Michael Wittmann

    • @pillager6190
      @pillager6190 4 роки тому

      LOL. Maybe a Tiger II or JagdTiger could've ??

    • @mottthehoople693
      @mottthehoople693 4 роки тому

      Id say Wittman and his crew had a game of soggy sao...after being away from their loved ones for so long.... and wittman packed such awesomeness he blew his own tanks turret off

  • @scottyfox6376
    @scottyfox6376 3 роки тому +2

    QF 17pdr (76.2mm) equipping the "FireFly" was a good gun but I personally think that saying that a FireFly was as good as a Tiger 1 is stretching it abit. The Tiger2's 88mm was definitely superior & this is easily seen if you compare the 88mm shell sizes between a Tiger1 to a Tiger2.

    • @Seygem
      @Seygem 3 роки тому

      Your comment makes absolutely 0 sense.
      First of all; shell size doesn't mean better gun.
      Secondly, how are you determining how good/bad the 17pdr is if you compare the 88s on tiger one and two?

  • @michaelmace924
    @michaelmace924 4 роки тому +1

    I wasn't sure if I saw this before or not until I heard this dude say, "About 50 yards?" If you pay attention to him, every time he tries guessing the distance it's 50 yards everytime & he does it in this video like 5 to 8 times but it feels like 10.

  • @alanle1471
    @alanle1471 3 роки тому +4

    Wittman was the best SS tank ace. Kurt Knispel was by far the best German tank ace.

  • @cavscout62
    @cavscout62 4 роки тому +12

    And what of Kurt “Panzer”Meyer? Ah, there he is.

    • @dickvansteijn4115
      @dickvansteijn4115 4 роки тому +3

      He got that monicer because he fell of a roof during his training and was uningured. That man is built like a tank the comment was. Hence Panzer Meyer

  • @sunsets4990
    @sunsets4990 3 роки тому +2

    there were lots of Ace in the German ranks, Wittman, Knispel and Peiper.

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 2 роки тому +2

    I have been studying WW2 for 40 years and have a bookcase full of books on the SS. I have never read of Wittmann referred to as the Black Baron.

    • @freddieclark
      @freddieclark 6 місяців тому

      That's because the term was made up long after the end of the war.

  • @6412mars
    @6412mars 4 роки тому +66

    Is Kurt Knispel all but forgotten?

  • @nrom5960
    @nrom5960 4 роки тому +32

    What beautiful scenery for such destruction! I love the history In Europe and the historic buildings.

    • @rogerjohnson8707
      @rogerjohnson8707 4 роки тому +2

      In 2018 and 2019 I spent several weeks going through the WWI battle fields of France and Belgium. Beautiful country. Never particularly thought much of that part of the world but it made a believer out of me. Paris, not so much.

    • @W.A.T.P...55
      @W.A.T.P...55 4 роки тому +2

      I'm British and I love the fact my country has such history..I don't always like the things I learn,,but it's mostly amazing and historic things I find out

    • @shanebeckett3557
      @shanebeckett3557 3 роки тому +3

      @@rogerjohnson8707 immigration has almost killed western Europe your lucky you atleast got to see it before Islam tales over

    • @inthemaze7441
      @inthemaze7441 3 роки тому

      D you should be proud! I’m American and can’t think of a better alliance.

    • @andilemuthe1658
      @andilemuthe1658 3 роки тому

      History of blood and suffering?? Nothing to be proud of

  • @k.l.mckenna3200
    @k.l.mckenna3200 3 роки тому +2

    I have to disagree with the gentleman at the end of the program, who stated that anyone who comes into another country and kills, is a criminal. Soldiers are given orders and being honorable men, they must obey those orders. At the end of the war, the victors get to write the history, and then they decide who the criminals were. You can fault the leaders but you cannot fault the soldiers...

    • @researchpatrol1437
      @researchpatrol1437 2 роки тому

      As determined at Nuremberg "just following orders" is not a valid excuse.

  • @michaelmeyer6503
    @michaelmeyer6503 4 роки тому

    Great video! more,more

  • @barryfletcher7136
    @barryfletcher7136 3 роки тому +5

    I doubt you check comments on a video from May, but I thought you did an excellent investigation and forensic re-creation of the battlefield in question. Some speculation is a given, but your conclusion is the most likely scenario to be true.

  • @hakon_brennus_wolff106
    @hakon_brennus_wolff106 3 роки тому +11

    13:04 You guys used a clip with an IS-3. Michael Wittman never saw one of those I promise lol.

    • @centurion1314
      @centurion1314 3 роки тому

      Agreed. The IS-3 wasn't used during the War.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 3 роки тому

      Crewed by Midgets and carrying little ammunition, I believe.

    • @Theywaswrong
      @Theywaswrong 3 роки тому

      Doesnt matter one whit...mann

    • @Seygem
      @Seygem 3 роки тому

      @@Theywaswrong it does matter a whole lot. a channel that wants to seem professional can't make mistakes like that.

  • @marcswanson7066
    @marcswanson7066 Рік тому +1

    Well done, very informative.

  • @patricklemire9278
    @patricklemire9278 Рік тому +1

    Amazing parallels to the death of The Red Baron

  • @noablaespano
    @noablaespano 4 роки тому +17

    Is easier to be an ace tanker when you have a superior tank.

    • @hertzair1186
      @hertzair1186 4 роки тому +12

      ...it helps, but skill is required

    • @iconicyard1311
      @iconicyard1311 4 роки тому +2

      why did it take the allies so long to make a tank to match the tiger.the Russians were the most successful.

    • @samb2052
      @samb2052 4 роки тому +5

      lobo de la suerte Because they didn’t need to. Building thousands of Shermans which could be shipped more efficiently, made more sense than hundreds of heavy tanks which need more shipping. Furthermore, the Allies were generally able to manoeuvre around German heavy tanks and stroke at their weaknesses. It’s the difference between strategy and tactics.

    • @tekay44
      @tekay44 4 роки тому

      and, much more experience.

    • @mjoelnir58
      @mjoelnir58 4 роки тому +4

      Not so easy if you are outnumbered 10 to 15 times by your opponents.Plus air superiority.

  • @sdferh
    @sdferh 2 роки тому +4

    I had the pleasure to work alongside a panzer mechanic Billy Hoffman, for many yrs , when I was young lad , the man was a genius on the tools.

  • @grahamcox8385
    @grahamcox8385 Рік тому +1

    Imagine that you are moving into a area that was declared safe and then wittmann bursts out of nowhere in his tiger tank, I personally would be grateful if I survived the encounter

  • @howardsend6589
    @howardsend6589 2 роки тому +1

    Tank ace drives over open field with no cover? Maybe had just had enough of the war knowing the end was near … perhaps his journey into Valhalla as one interviewed soldier says?

  • @pillager6190
    @pillager6190 4 роки тому +7

    All in all. I hate that he died in an ambush. He's was an enemy, but he was a warrior, if a warrior is to die in violence it should be head on!
    He was a great killer, a good leader, and has mustered out of the German army and has gone to his next life, hoping for mercy and fearing justice. .
    . . Just like all the dead.

    • @bobsagget823
      @bobsagget823 4 роки тому +1

      My father was wounded in the Bocage 25 Aug, 1944. He was in the 29th Division, 115th Infantry, Company F. He was wounded by a mortar shell tree burst. I still have the piece of shell.

    • @dickvarga6908
      @dickvarga6908 4 роки тому +1

      He got as good as he gave others.

  • @slimchancetoo
    @slimchancetoo 4 роки тому +9

    "his death is shrouded in mystery. How was he defeated, and by who?" and so the legend began.

    • @Dave-jj3fk
      @Dave-jj3fk 3 роки тому

      Let me tell you a story of darth wittman the ace

  • @buildmotosykletist1987
    @buildmotosykletist1987 4 роки тому +2

    The truth is that Whittman escaped that's why his body was never found. He could see the war was lost so he found a British uniform, persuaded a British soldier named Fleming to help him escaped to England where he changed his name to James, James Bond and kept his favourite number 007.

  • @richardwalling845
    @richardwalling845 4 роки тому +2

    Well done.

  • @weylandyorks3204
    @weylandyorks3204 4 роки тому +38

    Don't you just love the way these people use their phraseology? Terrifying? How about Brilliant or Heroic? Just because he was the so-called enemy shouldn't make his deeds any less amazing than those of our own!

    • @hypocriticalnihilist645
      @hypocriticalnihilist645 4 роки тому +12

      No! He was on the other side! He was, therefore, 100% complicit in all decisions and actions made by the upper echelon of the opposing military force, thus making him an evil monster.
      My grandfather, low-level soldier serving in an artillery unit, clearly was a bloodthirsty, murderous, villainous, psychopathic anti-semite of the highest order.

    • @hypocriticalnihilist645
      @hypocriticalnihilist645 4 роки тому +5

      @GStates You're one of the people who reads a joke on a UA-cam comments page and then ascribes a bunch of crazy things to it, that even if they were true you would have no way of knowing.

    • @superLoafOX
      @superLoafOX 4 роки тому +6

      GStates I think @Hypocritical Nihilist was being sarcastic dude

    • @user-mz6ts4xn6i
      @user-mz6ts4xn6i 4 роки тому +4

      Victors write history. little do the bluepilled sheeple know that the bad guys won the great war...... That's what we are seeing unroll in Europe

    • @user-mz6ts4xn6i
      @user-mz6ts4xn6i 4 роки тому +5

      @@ColonelHoganStalag13 He is sarcastic dude. No soldier is to blame for a world war where they are forced to participate. There are many sides of history, you only live in the one written by the victors. I also have tons of NSDAP family members who were really kind and great people who achieved tons of things that benefit alot of people today. Yet if i mention it, people inadvertently believe that they were evil monsters without thought of mind. Reality is way way more complex than you seem to perceive it.

  • @johnaitken7430
    @johnaitken7430 4 роки тому +1

    Your pieces are brilliant..honest and with respect...thankyou.

    • @zirkoleonardi129
      @zirkoleonardi129 4 роки тому

      I see this as a hypocrite see from 44:00

    • @johnaitken7430
      @johnaitken7430 4 роки тому

      Zirko Leonardi I’ve seen many of his productions and while made for a tv audience his respect for those who fought, either side, is genuine..it’s not current UA-cam influencer stuff or style so the age shows a bit

  • @ivan7453
    @ivan7453 3 роки тому +2

    I disagree with the feeling that Whittman in death should not be romanticised as the presenter proposes. He was not a war criminal. He was simply a soldier fighting a war. We should not detract from his memory. His memory should be cherished as we respect our own fallen.

  • @gerritverbeek5720
    @gerritverbeek5720 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for putting out a documentary with free, public access. However, you don't need to say his full name every 30 seconds... the intro was a bit tedious.

  • @eribertorivera3507
    @eribertorivera3507 4 роки тому +7

    I still like the King Tiger tanks

    • @lisajohnson9456
      @lisajohnson9456 4 роки тому

      I would love one then we would see who gets cut up on the road.

    • @AlreadyTakenTag
      @AlreadyTakenTag 4 роки тому

      What about ZE TRANSMISSION

  • @mahonishizumi5608
    @mahonishizumi5608 3 роки тому +2

    Out of curiosity after Michael Wittman gets mentioned several times in Girls und Panzer, I was lead here.

  • @jonnboimuhfucka
    @jonnboimuhfucka 3 роки тому +2

    Man... that man had a serious uni-brow.... so prominent and on display for all to gaze upon.

    • @scottyfox6376
      @scottyfox6376 3 роки тому +1

      Bathe in the Glory of the Unibrow..👀

  • @looseunit1615
    @looseunit1615 4 роки тому +6

    I think today the tendency for people to hero worship men like Wittman has less to do with politics and more to do with the man as a warrior in a time that was full of warriors on both sides.

  • @uweyaa
    @uweyaa 4 роки тому +9

    Michael Wittmann
    rest in VALHALLA
    with your Friends.
    You never forgotten.

    • @rowangovender1895
      @rowangovender1895 4 роки тому +1

      uweyaa Remember , who and what he fought for. Before you admire him, you hear what that British tanker said in the end of the documentary.

    • @KBauer-cs1rh
      @KBauer-cs1rh 3 роки тому +4

      @@rowangovender1895 May I remind you that Great Britain leads the chart starting the most wars of all times terrorizing many Countries while Germany is pretty much at the bottom of that list. And it was also Great Britain to tell the Polish not to agree to anything the Germans offered while they continued to kill thousands of Germans in those areas that became polish after WW1. And as long as nobody talks about all this, the real instigators living among us still work to create one conflict after another. Cecil Rhodes, Alfred Milner, Churchill and their "Round Table Society" stand guilty as charged.

    • @Pifferfish
      @Pifferfish 3 роки тому

      @@KBauer-cs1rh That's some premium whataboutism.

    • @KBauer-cs1rh
      @KBauer-cs1rh 3 роки тому

      @@Pifferfish Are you referring to this video?

    • @Pifferfish
      @Pifferfish 3 роки тому

      @@KBauer-cs1rh I'm referring to you refusing to acknowledge why the Germans were fighting, and what for. "But whatabout--" 1/10 attempt at deflecting.

  • @M3ill4rs
    @M3ill4rs 3 роки тому

    At 8:30 the translation is wrong. The narrator talks about a "stronger tank unit" , not a heavy tank division.

  • @suzyqualcast6269
    @suzyqualcast6269 3 роки тому

    Jean Paul Pallud found the site, Wittman and his crews remains, thereupon deposited at la Cambe.
    As related in Eric Lefevres After the Battle volume: Panzers in Normandy..

  • @JDSFLA
    @JDSFLA 4 роки тому +3

    Otto Carius was another top German tank ace (150 kills). I read his book, "Tigers in the Mud" but in truth it was pretty boring. He died not long ago in 2015 at the age of 92.

  • @billyleroy2465
    @billyleroy2465 4 роки тому +11

    Norm Christie is a great host!

    • @vonn4017
      @vonn4017 3 роки тому

      not really..cant pronounce the name of the man he is documenting correctly

  • @erikracz4162
    @erikracz4162 10 місяців тому +1

    This video never mentioned Whitmans record on the Russian front, or explained how he was able to operate the Tiger Tank at the rate he did. He got his iron cross for incinerating over a a hundred Russian tank crews!

  • @markmark2163
    @markmark2163 4 роки тому +7

    He's a hero.

  • @winnietheshrew2957
    @winnietheshrew2957 4 роки тому +9

    2:58 The "ei" in Leibstandarte is pronounced as in "wipe" or "gripe". The "e" at the end of Standarte is unstressed, but clearly audible. The Timeline guy just dropped it entirely.

    • @krell2130
      @krell2130 3 роки тому +1

      he's probably given a script to read and reads to the best of his ability and knowledge base

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 4 роки тому +4

    Killing tanks isn't the most amazing thing he did with a Tiger tank. The most amazing thing he could do with it was to keep it running!

    • @markmitchell450
      @markmitchell450 3 роки тому

      @K Will they weren't the most reliable thing and difficult to repair

  • @derekbenson81
    @derekbenson81 2 роки тому +2

    We’re just gonna forget about Kurt Knispel then? Alright then

  • @jwtm99
    @jwtm99 4 роки тому

    The field on this side and the field on that side. So frustrating. I think, but do not know, that the majority of the Panzers were advancing on the West side of N158, and Whittman was on the East. Need a map spotting the wall and where each pzkpfw was destroyed.

  • @evandotterer4365
    @evandotterer4365 4 роки тому +8

    If the allies did not have control of the sky’s when they invaded France we would had no chance against the German tanks.

    • @JohnSmith-kz8yo
      @JohnSmith-kz8yo 4 роки тому +7

      sure..you control the air you also pretty much control the ground

    • @stastu6484
      @stastu6484 3 роки тому

      Buddy there was like 100 tigers on the entire western front, most were panzer 4s and besides the Allies had lots of 76 shermans and fireflies, they were just so rarely needed as there were so few "wunderwaffle" tanks like the tigers and panthers

  • @douglasanderson2894
    @douglasanderson2894 4 роки тому +6

    I always thought that Kurt Knispel
    was the greatest panzer ace...

  • @billcallahan9303
    @billcallahan9303 4 роки тому +1

    Sure Vittman was a great Panzer Ace but what about Kurt Kniespel? Surname spelling may be wrong. Killed on the Ostfront but more tanks destroyed than Vittman. One rarely hears Kniespel's name mentioned anywhere. Then there was the Stuka tank killing Ace who topped them both, Rudell.

  • @hnaaewas543
    @hnaaewas543 2 роки тому +1

    His courage... sir I like all his strategies.

  • @reginaldmcnab3265
    @reginaldmcnab3265 3 роки тому +11

    "When this war is over we will be accused of an infinity of murder as if all men at war everywhere hadn't behaved the same way" The book "The Forgotten Soldier

    • @jameszeschke2182
      @jameszeschke2182 3 роки тому +3

      An awsome book about a French-German caught in a war few wanted

    • @reginaldmcnab3265
      @reginaldmcnab3265 3 роки тому +2

      Very interesting book! The first book that I had read that was not by an allied soldier but from a German soldier.

    • @joespeciale5875
      @joespeciale5875 3 роки тому +1

      And it’s the cowardly Neville Chamberlain diplomats, the so-called statesmen, that actually create the conditions ripe for war and mass murder.

    • @olivernorth7418
      @olivernorth7418 3 роки тому

      I forgot when Americans soldiers murdered 6 million jews, I thought they only executed small numbers of SS prisoners in retribution