Cardinal Francis Arinze on the Extraordinary and Ordinary forms of the Mass

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  • @brian_mahinda
    @brian_mahinda 7 років тому +74

    I just love Card Arinze and how he expresses everything clearly.

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you......

  • @keithjeffries7349
    @keithjeffries7349 3 роки тому +18

    A true prince of the Church who articulates Church teaching without any ambiguity. He is wise and pastoral, brimming with common sense and a holy man. Bless him

  • @robbingcars9140
    @robbingcars9140 4 роки тому +42

    This explanation of the Mass is one of the reasons I’m currently in RCIA

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому +1

      Beloved, I don't know you in person Rob k, but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you....

    • @Lucas.Ankney
      @Lucas.Ankney 3 роки тому +1

      Welcome!

  • @paulyosef7550
    @paulyosef7550 6 років тому +58

    SHOULD BE OUR POPE.

    • @michaelmack1195
      @michaelmack1195 5 років тому +9

      Ours would be a holier and more authentic Church if he were!

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому +1

      Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you......

    • @michaelhaywood8262
      @michaelhaywood8262 23 дні тому

      @@michaelmack1195 He's 92 years old

  • @ynmm3798
    @ynmm3798 11 місяців тому +3

    Perfectly said thanks. God bless

  • @rebeccaharrah7827
    @rebeccaharrah7827 10 місяців тому +3

    Love this wise Cardinal

  • @christina507
    @christina507 6 років тому +19

    Deo Gratias for Cardinal Arinze! He is just so wonderful!

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person christina but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......

  • @1369buddy
    @1369buddy 3 роки тому +7

    I met C. Arenzi back in the early 90s at Steubenville. He was seated in a church , no one was near him. I figured they were intimidated. I was a volunteer at this event. I figured let's sit & talk with him
    So I sit next to him , shook his hand & chatted with him for 10 minutes or so. I was a wildman at this time. What struck me is that he was interested in my Sawzall. I had to cut the tops of off the 50 gallon garbage cans, in order to get the bags out.
    It was a memorable event. Ad he brought a message from JP2 that was for the Volunteers. JP2 gave us an absolution for our past sins.
    It was truly amazing

  • @kellymontgomery1293
    @kellymontgomery1293 11 місяців тому +2

    just impossible not to love this man

  • @debbie2027
    @debbie2027 5 років тому +16

    I LOVE THIS CARDINAL !!!!!!!

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......

  • @s.lajoie9961
    @s.lajoie9961 5 років тому +16

    Very well said in my opinion. As someone who has witnessed the pros and cons of both firsthand, I look forward to the day when both forms can be celebrated together with reverence and solemnity.

    • @Sherlock910
      @Sherlock910 5 років тому +3

      Honestly, I would love to see that! It's sad to say that there are a lot of people who would actually lambast that idea for differing reasons. On one side, you would have more progressive-minded Catholics who think that the Tridentine Mass is retrograde and a relic of the past that should have no bearing on our present time. On the other hand, you have traditionalists who believe that the Tridentine Mass should be restored as the only acceptable form of celebrating Mass in the Latin Rite. I happen to agree with neither view, though I do sympathize more with the traditionalists. The reason I am not fully on board with the traditionalists is because of time. It's been over fifty years since the end of the Second Vatican Council and fifty years since the inauguration of the Roman Missal of 1969. There is no way that we would be able to turn back the clock and go back to celebrating the Tridentine Mass as the only form. We have gone too far to go back. No matter what traditionalists say, it's too late to change the past. We can only work with what we have. We have the ancient Tridentine Mass and the Novus Ordo. The restoration of the Sacred in our time can only happen once we pick up the Sacred Tradition that's been handed to us and use it at its full disposal. Ideally, that means embracing the Extraordinary Form and the Ordinary Form of the Mass as Pope Benedict XVI has asked us to.

  • @charliepickard7798
    @charliepickard7798 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorites of all time, love Cardinal Arinze

  • @ayushdas7447
    @ayushdas7447 4 роки тому +6

    This is very convincing. Thank God for I came across this video today.💞

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person Flos carmeli, but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you....

  • @ipso-kk3ft
    @ipso-kk3ft 4 роки тому +12

    Let all Rites of the Church influence and grow one another, indeed! The Byzantine and Ordinariate Use rites come to mind. Plus the beautiful OF liturgies by Fr. Longnecker and Fr. Jay Scott Newman's parishes. We also need people like Cdl. Zuppi and Abp. Cordileone to bridge new priests to the EF via the FSSP, etc.

  • @brad42948
    @brad42948 3 роки тому +3

    Such a straight-talking pastor, wonderful.

  • @leoniea138
    @leoniea138 Рік тому +2

    Yes we be open to what Holy Mother Church says providing its not telling us to go protestant

  • @hervedavidh4117
    @hervedavidh4117 4 роки тому +15

    Long Live Cardinal Arinze. Wish the radicalist traditionalist listen to you!

    • @Medico9814
      @Medico9814 4 роки тому +1

      Amen 💯

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......

  • @gopinathanaugustinemunusam911
    @gopinathanaugustinemunusam911 6 років тому +14

    Very clearly expressed. Every celebrant today should watch this interview with His Eminence to understand what the root problem is?

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you.......

  • @sophiachavez3377
    @sophiachavez3377 3 роки тому +4

    Such a good explanation of what is important in the Mass. I am so glad he points out that clapping and recognition of man’s achievements are not appropriate in the Mass.

    • @barthchima4263
      @barthchima4263 Місяць тому

      Mass period should be given to God completely. It's just one thirty minutes. We can celebrate ourselves other times.

  • @swoosh1mil
    @swoosh1mil 3 місяці тому

    Amen, your Eminence!

  • @keithjeffries7349
    @keithjeffries7349 3 роки тому +1

    Words of wisdom from an erudite and pragmatic catholic.

  • @josephcostello493
    @josephcostello493 Рік тому +2

    Here is Holy man worthy to be our next Pope! May God bless him always.😊

  • @leiph129
    @leiph129 6 років тому +15

    Brilliantly explained.

  • @irodjetson
    @irodjetson 3 роки тому +7

    I love how he makes it very clear that the issues of the Traditional Latin Mass are NONE! and it's more excelente in the 4 purposes of the mass, since a priest mumbling Latin is an impossibility since the people in the parish should be instructed to follow the mass with their missals in Latin. Yet he stresses a lot the fact that the novus ordo mass could be very misused and transformed into an show, and make the priest and company into some type of performers.
    In another videos he makes clear how Communion Kneeling and on the tongue is the preferred form, yet in MOST churches it seems to not be the case that it is the "preferred" form...
    It's true that the Church decides how we adore and what kinds of prayers and lectures are permited and that could change, it is also true that Pope Pius V condemned anybody who made changes to the Mass in the Quo Primum Tempore, and it is also true that people can abuse the changes made in the liturgy and also true that the last has happened and continues to happen.

  • @edshakespeare9122
    @edshakespeare9122 3 роки тому +7

    Man has 4 obligations to GOD 1. Adoration 2. Thanksgiving 3.Contrition 4. Petition
    Rosary Scapular traditional Mass...!!

  • @_Breakdown
    @_Breakdown 2 роки тому +2

    This was recorded 4 years ago... I wonder what Cardinal Arinze would make of pope francis’ recent decree demanding that the Extraordinary Form (Traditional Latin Mass) be forbidden from being offered in Church?

    • @_Breakdown
      @_Breakdown Рік тому

      @@christopherrodgers3616 and Pope Benedict specifically told every local priest that he didn’t need a bishop’s permission to offer the TLM. Why the “micromanaging”? There’s always a REASON. A priest should not need “approval” to offer a Mass - - especially when the overwhelming majority of Masses are of the novus ordo. God Bless.

    • @_Breakdown
      @_Breakdown Рік тому

      @@christopherrodgers3616 Out of 300 men who occupied the chair of St. Peter 21 of them were deemed anti-popes. Wolves in sheep’s clothing - - who Christ warned us would enter the Church and lead people astray. If you have difficulty understanding that Pope Benedict ENABLED / EMPOWERED any + all Catholic priests to perform the Extraordinary Rite - and Bergoglio did IN FACT *CURTAIL* it - - by requesting “permission slips” (treating priests like grade school kids needing a hallway pass to use the restroom) - - for a Mass that has been offered *for over 400 years* - - and you don’t understand how that CURTAILING is DISCRIMINATORY, CONTRADICTORY, IRREVERENT, DELIBERATE, FASCISTIC + MEAN-SPIRITED - - then I hope you ask God for the Spirits of Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding. In the meantime, I’ll take a moment to offer you some knowledge: There are 22 OTHER LITURGICAL RITES in communion with the Roman Catholic Church (Coptic, Alexandrian, Byzantine, Assyrian, Ethiopian, Antiochian, Malankaran, Armenian, Macedonian, Russian, Ukrainian, etc, etc, etc) - - *AND NONE OF THOSE 22 RITES REQUIRE A PRIEST TO GET PERMISSION FROM HIS BISHOP IN ORDER TO OFFER THOSE MASSES* - - all of which are VERY VERY DIFFERENT FROM the novus ordo Mass. And NONE OF WHICH ARE IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. Only the TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS was singled out. Why do think he would only target that one liturgical form - and not the 22 others? Let’s see... could it be because of the fact that parishioners EN MASSE have been leaving the Ordinary (novus ordo) Rite and flocking to the Extraordinary (Traditional Latin) Rite? Don’t answer - just dwell on it for a while. 🕊

  • @etherealcatholic5711
    @etherealcatholic5711 7 років тому +10

    Why doesn't Cardinal Arinze ordain priests and consecrate bishops in the Traditional rite of Holy Orders?

  • @mariad6955
    @mariad6955 6 років тому +31

    Yes but we all know the hostility against the traditional rite! Lets not pretend that it doesn't happen!

    • @HAHA-rm3ii
      @HAHA-rm3ii 6 років тому +7

      Maria D And visa versa!

    • @mariad6955
      @mariad6955 6 років тому +10

      Notnow 212 i dont think that if you request to have a novus ordo marriage or baptismal rite in Rome you will get denied! So clearly not vise versa! Im not talking about lay people but clerics!

    • @HAHA-rm3ii
      @HAHA-rm3ii 6 років тому +1

      Maria D well I was talking about lay people. NOT Rome.

    • @Databygeorge
      @Databygeorge 5 років тому +4

      @@mariad6955 Priests are people too. Yes, there is hostility in both directions. And there are clergy that are as in love with the Extraordinary Rite as others are in the Ordinary Rite. I've known a few. We have a long way to go with both Clergy and Laity. I hope I can find ways to be supportive of both forms of the Liturgy.

  • @AndrewReynolds-e9g
    @AndrewReynolds-e9g Рік тому

    Sounds great

  • @Luminosity94
    @Luminosity94 3 роки тому +1

    "Many people make problem for themselves"

  • @mizzyroro
    @mizzyroro Рік тому +1

    I am not a Catholic but I find this tension in the Catholic church surrounding the different forms of the mass interesting. I have a question? Did Vatican II forbid the Tridentine mass or was it always permissible?

    • @joshringsell1235
      @joshringsell1235 Рік тому +1

      It was always permitted, but a culture of hostility towards it grew after Vatican II and remains today

  • @aldscabrera2947
    @aldscabrera2947 4 роки тому +2

    AMEN

  • @Abraham-uk4xy
    @Abraham-uk4xy 25 днів тому +1

    The Latin mass should be the ordinary form and the novo ordus vernacular mass should be the extraordinary form.
    Now it's the opposite. Both should be offered in parallel.

  • @magnuseng3345
    @magnuseng3345 3 роки тому +2

    His name and title is not Cardinal Francis Arinze, it is Francis Cardinal Arinze. Like Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

  • @maryprochilo4498
    @maryprochilo4498 10 місяців тому

    Yes! 👏👏👏🙏🙏

  • @lizzie5824
    @lizzie5824 3 роки тому +2

    Hello can I use this video ?

  • @cindyrobertson8542
    @cindyrobertson8542 5 років тому +8

    Arinze for Pope

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person Cindy Robertson but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you....

    • @_Breakdown
      @_Breakdown 2 роки тому

      He’d make a spectacular Pope!

    • @michaelhaywood8262
      @michaelhaywood8262 23 дні тому

      @@_Breakdown but he's 92 years old. I love Cl Arinze but consider that he is too old.

    • @_Breakdown
      @_Breakdown 23 дні тому

      @ it’s not his AGE - - it’s whether he still has his FACULTIES. And since there’s every indication that he DOES - - he’d make an excellent Pope to shepherd the flock. ALSO - - the fact that he’s 93 is fine bc - it means that (more likely than not) his service as pontiff would be briefer than others. JP1’s pontificate was only 30 days.

  • @frvincentchittilapillymcbs9291
    @frvincentchittilapillymcbs9291 3 роки тому +2

    Jesus said love God first then Yousef then neighbours. This priority must be at least in the Eucharist.

  • @leoniea138
    @leoniea138 10 місяців тому

    True

  • @kellymontgomery1293
    @kellymontgomery1293 11 місяців тому

    am i missing something? or is he saying that Trads are good to go?

  • @annachmielewski1491
    @annachmielewski1491 5 років тому +1

    💙

    • @cardinalfrancisarinze9747
      @cardinalfrancisarinze9747 4 роки тому

      Beloved, I don't know you in person Anna chmielewski but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a somebody in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now he or her time is up in Jesus name, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation ( PALERMO ORPHANAGE.) Palermo in Italy before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their account details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp them now on ( +393511410096) tell them you want to help them . For it is not by might not by in power but of the spirit faith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you....

  • @franciscakerubo3587
    @franciscakerubo3587 4 роки тому +1

    My Daddy on 🌞⛅ Earth 😍🤩🌎🌍🌏🌎🌕🌖🌔🌙🌕😍🌟❤️🌹🍇❤️🌹 🍇

  • @MerylViolaBravoFeminism
    @MerylViolaBravoFeminism 6 років тому +3

    Condemning.... is not a UNION!

  • @AndrewReynolds-e9g
    @AndrewReynolds-e9g Рік тому

    The next pope

  • @a.t.c.3862
    @a.t.c.3862 2 роки тому +1

    "We trust the Church, every good Catholic will remain flexible..." not what we're getting from the Latin Massers post Traditiones custodes. Rome has spoken.

  • @John-iq2zt
    @John-iq2zt 2 роки тому +4

    Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi (70%+ of Novus Ordo Catholics don’t believe in the Eucharist).
    Figure it out.

  • @etc3776
    @etc3776 4 роки тому +6

    Putting the Catholic Mass on par with the protestantized Mass is not something I can accept now.

  • @michaelpena8845
    @michaelpena8845 11 місяців тому +1

    The Novus ordo needs to go

  • @jimbart76
    @jimbart76 5 років тому +3

    What a great man. I wish he was the Pope instead of Francis the Destroyer.

    • @hillaryekene891
      @hillaryekene891 5 років тому +5

      Be careful how you use you words on Him you are not his employer

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 4 роки тому

      "the Vague" is more proportionate, more definite, and ironically less vague.
      Hateful traddies sure have a propensity to vagueness. Perhaps he is having an influence on you?

    • @Medico9814
      @Medico9814 4 роки тому +2

      It doesn’t surprise me to see people like you JAMES B , I remember even St. John Paul 2 has many against his way but still he became one of the best pope of our time . Let’s pray for our church and it’s people Amen 🙏

    • @nick_ikenma
      @nick_ikenma 3 місяці тому

      You shouldn't be saying that, bro.

  • @niyeen6317
    @niyeen6317 5 років тому

    Would potential violence modify this?

  • @niyeen6317
    @niyeen6317 5 років тому

    Would potential violence modify this?