I charge with a regular 110v house charger and do not track the exact costs. If I bought a level 2 charger it would Track the charge amount. As a disclosure I am not a big supporter of the electric vehicle market. I do not believe the battery technology, charging technology and electrical infrastructure is ready yet. However, the plug in hybrid is the answer for today. No range anxiety and longer range for long trips with limited down time. With this said, I will give you my driving cycle averages. My wife drives around 20 miles a day for work and maybe an additional 10 miles every 2 weekdays running errands. On weekends about 40-50 miles a day with maybe 1 time a month a 200 mile trip. She averages about 1,000 per month, I would say this is the national average. We start the engine once per week to make sure the engine seals stay lubricated, we don’t have to really ever start the engine. I do it to make sure of the long term durability of the engine. I pay about an extra $25 per month on my electric bill. I put about 8 gallons of gas in about every 2500 -3000 miles which is about $32 every 3 months . Electric charging costs are cheaper than gas costs, it’s not even close. The average KW is .09-.14 depending where you live. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to charge this at a charge station where the costs to charge are really high. The battery pack is 18KW BUT only about 13KW is for the plug in part the rest is not chargeable because that is the hybrid part of the battery. My electric costs are .10 per KW. .10x13= $1.30 per charge. We charge about every other day. $1.30x15 days = $19.50. For me it is about $25 per month. Let’s add this up to every 3 month costs because that is how often I get gas. On a normal gas car I use $400 per 3 months on gas. 1000 miles per month x 3 months =3000 miles. A car that averages 30mpg combined burns 100 gallons for the 3 months. Average gas prices lately is around $4/gallon. That’s $400 per 3 months. Right now I pay about $25/month in electric costs. $25/3=$75. I fill gas up every 3 months with 8 gallons x$4/gallon=$32. So $32 for gas every 3 months plus $75 for electric = $107 over 3 months. A gas car I would pay $400 every 3 months. On this rav4 prime plug in hybrid I pay $107 every 3 months. At the time I bought this there was a $7500 federal tax credit which made the cost of the car about the same price as the gas model. MPG is short for miles per gallon, which I did calculate. New cars are coming out with MPGe. That is short for miles per gallon equivalent. That number is an estimated number based on gas and electric costs on a specified scenario. The rav4 MPGe on sticker is 94.
We bought our RAV4 Prime last October 2021. To date we are on our 3rd tank of gas. Because we are retired, we don’t put a lot of miles on the car, and like you we try to run the gas engine frequently enough to avoid issues. Having said all that, I haven’t been able to calculate MPG; however I have approximated about 850-900 miles per tank of gas. And yes, we are the envy of friends and family.
We have a 2022 RAV 4 Prime Model SE. When running just on gas when the battery is depleted we have been averaging 38-40+ MPG. On longer trips at moderate rural highway speeds 25-55 MPH I have averaged in the upper 40's MPG's just on gas when the battery is depleted. Our electric rates are only 11 cents per KWH when running just on electric.
Thanks for the comment. When I took delivery I drove it from North Carolina to Indiana. I was only getting 32MPG on that drive going 70mph through the mountain/hills in rain/snow. I don’t really count that number due to the conditions. Thanks for an update on more real life MPG’s. My wife uses this for mainly city type driving on electric only. Her work commute is 10 miles each way. She starts the engine once per week just to keep the engine seals good and to prevent the gas from going bad.
How much are you paying for the electricity you use *daily* so that you don’t have to buy gas? That’s the only real question that matters because then you need to add that number to the cost of the fuel and *THEN* you calculate the true MPG. No one seems to understand this and I’m struggling to find any videos where the math is done correctly. How much does it cost extra for you to charge the car? What’s that daily cost, since it’s a daily activity?
I charge with a regular 110v house charger and do not track the exact costs. If I bought a level 2 charger it would Track the charge amount. As a disclosure I am not a big supporter of the electric vehicle market. I do not believe the battery technology, charging technology and electrical infrastructure is ready yet. However, the plug in hybrid is the answer for today. No range anxiety and longer range for long trips with limited down time. With this said, I will give you my driving cycle averages. My wife drives around 20 miles a day for work and maybe an additional 10 miles every 2 weekdays running errands. On weekends about 40-50 miles a day with maybe 1 time a month a 200 mile trip. She averages about 1,000 per month, I would say this is the national average. We start the engine once per week to make sure the engine seals stay lubricated, we don’t have to really ever start the engine. I do it to make sure of the long term durability of the engine. I pay about an extra $25 per month on my electric bill. I put about 8 gallons of gas in about every 2500 -3000 miles which is about $32 every 3 months . Electric charging costs are cheaper than gas costs, it’s not even close. The average KW is .09-.14 depending where you live. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to charge this at a charge station where the costs to charge are really high. The battery pack is 18KW BUT only about 13KW is for the plug in part the rest is not chargeable because that is the hybrid part of the battery. My electric costs are .10 per KW. .10x13= $1.30 per charge. We charge about every other day. $1.30x15 days = $19.50. For me it is about $25 per month. Let’s add this up to every 3 month costs because that is how often I get gas. On a normal gas car I use $400 per 3 months on gas. 1000 miles per month x 3 months =3000 miles. A car that averages 30mpg combined burns 100 gallons for the 3 months. Average gas prices lately is around $4/gallon. That’s $400 per 3 months. Right now I pay about $25/month in electric costs. $25/3=$75. I fill gas up every 3 months with 8 gallons x$4/gallon=$32. So $32 for gas every 3 months plus $75 for electric = $107 over 3 months. A gas car I would pay $400 every 3 months. On this rav4 prime plug in hybrid I pay $107 every 3 months. At the time I bought this there was a $7500 federal tax credit which made the cost of the car about the same price as the gas model. MPG is short for miles per gallon, which I did calculate. New cars are coming out with MPGe. That is short for miles per gallon equivalent. That number is an estimated number based on gas and electric costs on a specified scenario. The rav4 MPGe on sticker is 94.
I charge with a regular 110v house charger and do not track the exact costs. If I bought a level 2 charger it would Track the charge amount.
As a disclosure I am not a big supporter of the electric vehicle market. I do not believe the battery technology, charging technology and electrical infrastructure is ready yet.
However, the plug in hybrid is the answer for today. No range anxiety and longer range for long trips with limited down time.
With this said, I will give you my driving cycle averages. My wife drives around 20 miles a day for work and maybe an additional 10 miles every 2 weekdays running errands. On weekends about 40-50 miles a day with maybe 1 time a month a 200 mile trip. She averages about 1,000 per month, I would say this is the national average.
We start the engine once per week to make sure the engine seals stay lubricated, we don’t have to really ever start the engine. I do it to make sure of the long term durability of the engine.
I pay about an extra $25 per month on my electric bill. I put about 8 gallons of gas in about every 2500 -3000 miles which is about $32 every 3 months .
Electric charging costs are cheaper than gas costs, it’s not even close. The average KW is .09-.14 depending where you live. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to charge this at a charge station where the costs to charge are really high. The battery pack is 18KW BUT only about 13KW is for the plug in part the rest is not chargeable because that is the hybrid part of the battery. My electric costs are .10 per KW.
.10x13= $1.30 per charge. We charge about every other day. $1.30x15 days = $19.50. For me it is about $25 per month.
Let’s add this up to every 3 month costs because that is how often I get gas. On a normal gas car I use $400 per 3 months on gas. 1000 miles per month x 3 months =3000 miles. A car that averages 30mpg combined burns 100 gallons for the 3 months. Average gas prices lately is around $4/gallon. That’s $400 per 3 months.
Right now I pay about $25/month in electric costs. $25/3=$75. I fill gas up every 3 months with 8 gallons x$4/gallon=$32. So $32 for gas every 3 months plus $75 for electric = $107 over 3 months.
A gas car I would pay $400 every 3 months. On this rav4 prime plug in hybrid I pay $107 every 3 months.
At the time I bought this there was a $7500 federal tax credit which made the cost of the car about the same price as the gas model.
MPG is short for miles per gallon, which I did calculate. New cars are coming out with MPGe. That is short for miles per gallon equivalent. That number is an estimated number based on gas and electric costs on a specified scenario. The rav4 MPGe on sticker is 94.
We bought our RAV4 Prime last October 2021. To date we are on our 3rd tank of gas. Because we are retired, we don’t put a lot of miles on the car, and like you we try to run the gas engine frequently enough to avoid issues. Having said all that, I haven’t been able to calculate MPG; however I have approximated about 850-900 miles per tank of gas. And yes, we are the envy of friends and family.
So far it’s been a great car.
We have a 2022 RAV 4 Prime Model SE. When running just on gas when the battery is depleted we have been averaging 38-40+ MPG. On longer trips at moderate rural highway speeds 25-55 MPH I have averaged in the upper 40's MPG's just on gas when the battery is depleted. Our electric rates are only 11 cents per KWH when running just on electric.
Thanks for the comment. When I took delivery I drove it from North Carolina to Indiana. I was only getting 32MPG on that drive going 70mph through the mountain/hills in rain/snow. I don’t really count that number due to the conditions. Thanks for an update on more real life MPG’s.
My wife uses this for mainly city type driving on electric only. Her work commute is 10 miles each way. She starts the engine once per week just to keep the engine seals good and to prevent the gas from going bad.
How much are you paying for the electricity you use *daily* so that you don’t have to buy gas? That’s the only real question that matters because then you need to add that number to the cost of the fuel and *THEN* you calculate the true MPG.
No one seems to understand this and I’m struggling to find any videos where the math is done correctly.
How much does it cost extra for you to charge the car? What’s that daily cost, since it’s a daily activity?
I charge with a regular 110v house charger and do not track the exact costs. If I bought a level 2 charger it would Track the charge amount.
As a disclosure I am not a big supporter of the electric vehicle market. I do not believe the battery technology, charging technology and electrical infrastructure is ready yet.
However, the plug in hybrid is the answer for today. No range anxiety and longer range for long trips with limited down time.
With this said, I will give you my driving cycle averages. My wife drives around 20 miles a day for work and maybe an additional 10 miles every 2 weekdays running errands. On weekends about 40-50 miles a day with maybe 1 time a month a 200 mile trip. She averages about 1,000 per month, I would say this is the national average.
We start the engine once per week to make sure the engine seals stay lubricated, we don’t have to really ever start the engine. I do it to make sure of the long term durability of the engine.
I pay about an extra $25 per month on my electric bill. I put about 8 gallons of gas in about every 2500 -3000 miles which is about $32 every 3 months .
Electric charging costs are cheaper than gas costs, it’s not even close. The average KW is .09-.14 depending where you live. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to charge this at a charge station where the costs to charge are really high. The battery pack is 18KW BUT only about 13KW is for the plug in part the rest is not chargeable because that is the hybrid part of the battery. My electric costs are .10 per KW.
.10x13= $1.30 per charge. We charge about every other day. $1.30x15 days = $19.50. For me it is about $25 per month.
Let’s add this up to every 3 month costs because that is how often I get gas. On a normal gas car I use $400 per 3 months on gas. 1000 miles per month x 3 months =3000 miles. A car that averages 30mpg combined burns 100 gallons for the 3 months. Average gas prices lately is around $4/gallon. That’s $400 per 3 months.
Right now I pay about $25/month in electric costs. $25/3=$75. I fill gas up every 3 months with 8 gallons x$4/gallon=$32. So $32 for gas every 3 months plus $75 for electric = $107 over 3 months.
A gas car I would pay $400 every 3 months. On this rav4 prime plug in hybrid I pay $107 every 3 months.
At the time I bought this there was a $7500 federal tax credit which made the cost of the car about the same price as the gas model.
MPG is short for miles per gallon, which I did calculate. New cars are coming out with MPGe. That is short for miles per gallon equivalent. That number is an estimated number based on gas and electric costs on a specified scenario. The rav4 MPGe on sticker is 94.