INFORMATION - Most of the information summed up here: www.reddit.com/r/HermitCraft/comments/1h3bgtl/iskall85_stressmonter_resignation_megathread/ - www.reddit.com/r/HermitCraft/ - hermitcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Hermitcraft_Wiki Statements: - Mefallit, Vault Hunters and Iskall community member: pastebin.com/Ln3nVRkq - Kasszi, one of Iskall's moderators: docs.google.com/document/d/1paBcGkIfDWCyHcxhDrdhEGGvtpJL8yAqBR3HCKNK7DU/edit?tab=t.0 - An (anonymous) victim has come forward, verified by Kasszi. x.com/starssoul0808/status/1860827397534159283 - A statement has been released by Kasszi on behalf of another victim: pastebin.com/Y4MZN7Nm Grian changed titles, not thumbnails. My bad - I was given incorrect information on that count. 00:34: Chapter 1 - The Announcement 01:53: Chapter 2 - The Allegations 04:27: Chapter 3 - Going Public 05:31: Skip To Here if you need to! 05:50: Chapter 4 - The Reactions 07:00: Chapter 5 - The Future
@ yeah I checked last night and put a little note in the description and pinned comment. Turns out I was given misinformation there - it was titles he removed him from (to avoid being related on search terms for ‘Iskall’ I guess)
Some guy flirts with girl, tells some lies. Now shes a 'victim' who needs her voice heard. You internet witch-hunt mobs need to get out once in a while, see the real world.
from what ive heard stress was already on the verge of leaving the server, with iskall being her main tie. i believe after finding out about all of this she decided to leave and focus on her family
I've seen stuff on tumblr talking about how the hermits handled this really well, and I agree with that, the victims trusted the hermits when they told a hermit about it, and the hermits made swift action, believing victims, confronting him, then releasing that statement about resignation only when the victims were ready, and being prompt about removing mention of him in video titles, podcast, website, etc, etc, so the victims weren't dragged through the mud with the internet ripping them apart, the hermits confronted, he resigned, so we're in the aftermath of it all, the hermits have what they need, so we might get more info, we might not, but the hermits of hermitcraft are amazing for being professional, responsible, & mature with handling all of this, so I'm glad to still be a part of the hermitcraft fan community
@@CristianCooks this isn't "cancelling" him, this is taking action to support victims of sexual harassment, which is what happened, this was parasocial behavior gone too far, this is a popular online creator making sexual advances with fans, that power dynamic makes it harassment, not just "weirdness" or "flirting", there may have not been intentionally malicious actions, but that behavior is still not ok and was deemed as such by the hermits, where he was confronted about it & resigned
@@sisi7304 "which is what happened" And they have the evidence for it?? I haven't looked into the situation, this is the first I hear of it, but if it turns out that the word of the alleged victims is all there is to it, then this very much is a cancellation.
@@buragi5441 yes, the hermit have evidence of this, the victims aren't alleged, and posted some receipts but didn't want to share all of them publicly due to the sexual nature of some of them, the hermits have what they need, that's why they posted about believing the victims, and came to the decision about confronting the now former hermit together because sexual harassment is against hermitcraft's family friendly nature, and his response was resignation, that's all it is, it's not to say people *can't* enjoy his content (tho some don't want to anyway due to what he did), so it's not cancelling him, but he is no longer a hermit and therefore if you (the generalized plural "you", not you specifically) watch him for hermitcraft, he isn't part of it now, this situation was very professionally handled as it should be for any sort of similar thing, believe victims, always
Him being removed from all content was absurd. Why are they acting like he doesn't exist now? His friends turned on him beause they care about their image? Just because of something in his personal life? These people are not even "victims" since they're not underage and, regardless of whether it's normal or inappropriate, it is him talking to other people in his personal life.
@Colijgaming removing him from content like titles or guest star eps is to prevent searches leading to those videos, the hermits weren't (afaik) turning on him, but more making sure that if people, especially parents of relatively young children, search up hermitcraft + his name, he wouldn't appear on the channels that are family friendly or for hermitcraft in general being family friendly, it's not necessarily about image in that regard, it's letting it known that sexual harassment or similar manipulative behavior is not ok for the hermits & hermitcraft, yes it was part of his personal life technically, but the victims were *fan viewers* or moderators, there's a very clear & obvious power dynamic & imbalance that makes the behaviors considered sexual assault, which on top of that, this also happened *while in a relationship with a long term partner* when talking to multiple of those fans/mods in explicit ways, and that is cheating on top of the sexual harassment, while it is correct that (afawk) there are no underage people involved, adults can absolutely still be victims of sexual harassment or assault as well as abuse & manipulation, the vast majority of sexual harassment & sexual assault (at least in the US) actually happens to college students on campuses (particularly at or just after parties where alcohol is involved), college students are over 18, but they would still be victims if harassed or assaulted, the same applies here, the victims were still deeply affected by what happened, talking to people, particularly fans, inappropriately & in sexually explicit ways is not just "something in his personal life", again, as I've said multiple times in this/these thread/replies, believe *all* victims, *always*
A lot of people thing the Hermits are taking things too far but Iskall resigned on his own and also Hermitcraft isn't like any old SMP, it's a renowned, exclusive, invite-only one known for their clean, family-friendly reputation, professionally, they have to nip this stuff in the bud, not let it fester and grow and cause some major issues down the line. They can't take risks and also, as viewers, we aren't privy to the bigger picture, just what we're given.
there is some not so family friendly stuff related to hermitcraft like bdubs whenever he puts the trucker hat on or scar in the "hotguy makes me question my lesbianism clip" or the infamous dont put that in my mouth clip and so on and so forth
The fact that he willingly resigned makes me feel like it was possibly just a big reality check for him that he was doing something wrong. All of the hermits know that the brand image of hermitcraft is family friendly and it could’ve just been iskall resigning in his own accord for the sake of hermitcraft as a whole.
I mean, I feel like if you're owning this then you're going to have to actually make a formal statement about it and like... apologize and step away? This is a pretty classic panic response, not grownup professional behavior. Like, I actually do think that what Ned from Try Guys did was worse, but his early response was at least treating it like he understood how bad he'd messed up.
@@NassifehIn all fairness, plenty of political, cultural and business figures tend to resign without much explanation after they mess up or some past inappropriate behavior comes out. In the end we don't have the full picture, so until Iskall steps forward or a full, objective statement describing what happened comes out, all we can do is wait.
@@NassifehI’d honestly rather him get help for his behavior first then respond… instead of making a half witted apology, him getting help then responding once he has had that help would be the best option
The biggest thing that I see from this is that Iskall resigned from the group. He wasn't necessarily kicked out. Due to hermitcraft being a family-friendly brand, I think both parties wanted to distance themselves to uphold those values. While it does seem tamer I chalk it up to him being creepy and being an apparent cheater. I don't think it's criminal, but still unfortunate
@@MrSinister718 when someone flirts with you and you respond by changing the subject or denying the comments then that person continues they're being harassed. You can be friends and be harassed by someone. Especially because he was her boss.
I don't get the removal of iskall from everything hermitcraft related either. Going as far as changing thumbnails and titles for a friend's poor PRIVATE relationship skills. I don't know. Something else is going on here. They could have just left it at him leaving, but everything that followed just makes the whole situation seem very fishy
@calebpillai4774 I assume it's due to implications. It's a family first brand, and those who are serious about that want to protect that brand. Even if nothing else happens with Iskall, that stain is there. If I was a hermit I would do the same thing tbh. It's damage control imo. If this was a non g to pg server I think hermits wouldn't go that far
a lot of people in this comment section need to realize that just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it's ok? Hermitcraft is a prestigious family-friendly server and a business first and foremost, the members have the right to reject someone from participating if they do something against the server's ethical code.
From my understanding iskall didn't do anything wrong.... sure it was weird that he didn't take the social cues. The video never said she asked him to stop.... and if he was in a relationship with someone else that's none of our or hermitcrafts business.
@@kyeldorries8283Unsolicited nudes? Employee power imbalance manipulation putting them in a position where they can't say stop for fear of their jobs?
@@SomeUnknowGuy I read the statement from kass, the conversation she has wasn't that weird at all there was flirting from both sides and nothing she said indicated she wasn't OK with the conversation. She put love hearts in several of her replies to iskall. I will read the rest of the statements but unless there is evidence attached they don't mean much.
I thought it was strange that he just disappeared and I remember him saying things like he is going on vacation and he broke his hand or something, and while watching Mumbo and I realized that Mumbo and everyone else stopped doing Mission possible task. Thanks for explaining it.
I don’t think the hermits knew for very long, personally. I think the Mission Possible stuff might’ve gotten old & they moved on. The prizes would’ve had to replace armor that were better on than off.
@@rynnmedia That would make sense except for two reasons, they don’t care about armor, and Mumbo said he was going to do it next episode a couple episodes ago before this stuff came up and he hasn’t mentioned it since, but you never know I might be wrong.
If Grian erases him from thumbnails six years ago, and Mumbo removes Sahara merch, and the Iskall episode from Imp & Skizz gets deleted, im starting to think there is something more behind. This was mostly akward and wierd flirting, not in my opinion, a reason to erase everything connected to him. Edit: After reading the replys, i now know that what he did was much worse than i initially thought, and i now see why they did what they did
Probably running around with their heads cut off trying not to get hermitcraft "canceled". they wont be canceled but with the world today, people are already treating this like he did something heinous. I've read all the statements and it sounds like a bunch of flirting and some advancements that were not mutual.
My best educated guess is that Iskall violated a code of coduct/ethics code. Hermitcraft is a business and all businesses have them, so it would stand to reason that this was violation since HC is meant to be family friendly.
As it sounds like iskall has send unwanted nudes to some specific fans and moderators and has become explicit in the chat. It's not published to prevent children seeing or reading it. So even though it's a more mild form of sexual harassment, it's still sexual harassment. Some might also dislike that he did that while being in a relationship, so cheating on his partner, but we don't know if they have an open relationship or not, so it's hard to say if it was cheating. But he also said in the chat with his victims, that he's not in a relation ship. So he let those, who where interested, think they have a chance of coming together with him until he ghosted them. As it sounds like, it's mostly sexually harassing people via skype by sending explicit content and playing with their feelings.
@WarpedKarma6471 i didnt know that. When he said merch related to Iskall i thought it was sahara merch. Maybe some of the merch was printed with closer repsentation of the Sahara hermits, and he removed those
*"I didn't think this was a big deal"* Yall got used to worse crimes from worse creators. Cheating on a partner and flirting with subordinates is still inappropriate behavior
lmfao snowflakes think flirting is bad, cheating and flirting happen everyday, every social media has a block button, no one is ever talking to someone online forcibly
@@wyomingpttmy brother in christ he tried to cheat on his significant other, you cant do that legal or not man, dont compare that shit to looking at someone
@@bouncyvenus If I heard it right he never met his significant other nor anybody else he was flirting with in person. I'm not even sure how clearly defined his relationship status was according to the people involved. So even if you call it cheating we should be aware that it is not on the same level of cheating as having sex outside of marriage.
iskall is the first hermit who i started watching. Through him, I started to know Mumbo, Grian, Scar, BdoubleO and many others. Just sad to see him go.
I started with Mumbo and was introduced to the Sahara gang in season 6 Grian Mumbo Iskall kept me going in tough times, and it’s rough to have something like this happen.
Btw hermitfans don't push the hermits for answers, it's better to not ask because if they wanted us to know they would tell us, it's gotta be exhausting being bombarded with speculation everytime so we should all be respectful to the hermits.
We have a right to be informed about things that may affect us, and those that have kids, have a right to know how their kids may have been affected. Leaving it as a secret just makes things worse, no one is safer.
I would love to see this as the pinned comment, as I think this is one of the most important messages for fans to see at this point as they're hearing about this. It's too often on the internet that people are more than willing to release all the "juicy details" even when it's inappropriate or unnecessary to do so. Many situations, especially those that have already been substantially dealt with, have no reason to have everything released just for the sake of satiating others' curiosity.
Despite how saddening and gross this situation is, I admire the response from the Hermitcraft gang. The way they listened to these allegations and confronted the situation really does show that they value not just having a family friendly server, but the virtue of their members. They have high standards for their members’ quality of character, which is probably the main reason their server is as respectable as it is. So proud of this gang and their responses to this messy situation
everyone should remember that "not shared publicly" is not the same as "non-existant". explicit photos were shared but victims did not want to share w the community (just showed it to hermits) due to the possinbiity of minors seeing them. we will not get "more information" "more receipts". all we need to know is that hermits (including iskall) felt that this behavior was unnacceptable for a hermitcraft member.
i think this right here is a great comment. Not about the photos part but the behavior for a hermitcraft member. What he did is not acceptable for a family friendly smp like that, but looking at the evidence it seems like its not that crazy what he actually did. This Kass person even said in their statement they loooked up to him as being a potentional partner, but when found out he was talking to someone else, they were a little annoyed. Also more context is that this happened during the covid lockdowns so i imagine he was lonely and pulling at strings. This kass person never once tried to stop any sort of advance from him and from what i see they not encouraged but continued to talk and make iskall prob feel like they had mutual feelings. I think everyone treating this like a case of a sexual assualt is full of bullshit not looking through all the evidence as of right now. Until more stuff comes out i dont think what he did was that far.
There has to be a crime for there to be a victim... even though iskall seemed to not take social cues from the information we have she never asked iskall to stop. Plus maybe he was hacked we just don't know.
@@kyeldorries8283 the thing is- we the audience won't get more information. so its better to not pretend as if what may have happened is nothing and take a look at the situation knowing that we are missing most of the details that make up the bigger picture. you kinda have to decide what this means or yourself, because we most probably wont get a definite answer (whether ull keep supporting him or not is your choice as we do not and will not know if things were actually very bad or not)
@@wa_akii6873 your right we don't have all the information and the information we do have tells us that a man in a relationship courted and flirted with several woman. Those woman also flirted and courted back. No one in their statement said i cannot show you the conversations but iskall took it too far and we asked him to stop but he didn't. They all said they felt betrayed when they found out he was in a relationship and speaking to other woman.
Sharing sex pics isn't something we did that much in my generation, but it's ridiculously common nowadays amongst teens. Making a big deal of it is light fighting the rain. There's no win in there.
My feelings on the matter as someone who only watches Iskall on other hermit povs: This seems more an issue of ethics, and boundaries. Not a legal issue or a safety issue. A lot of people seem confused because when we talk about "allegations" and ousting a creator it's usually something much worse. It makes sense that the Hermits chose to distance, but it doesnt mean that Iskall cant have a platform or that anyone needs to stop watching him. This is an issue between the affected parties. Fans just have to decide if the behavior crosses a line where they cant enjoy or respect Iskall anymore. Without any further information, nobody should be speculating the worst or trying to lump it in with more explicit allegations and crimes. Nobody should be pushing the idea that he is a danger and needs to be deplatformed. If there is more to the story then that is between Iskall and the women involved and it's up to them to decide how it's handled. When people try to equate a less severe issue with a far worse one, that's when you get people downplaying in response or becoming apathetic, because they arent judging on the actual situation, but comparing it to the worst, making it seem trivial. So if you (general, you) want people to take this seriously, dont lump it into "other minecraft allegations". Because now people will spend their time pointing out how it isnt so bad and not what happened, which does a disservice to anyone affected. Take the info as it is and decide how it affects you as a viewer, just as you would if this happened to someone you know irl. Not everything has to end in fans with pitchforks.
if he sent inappropriate materials to someone that constitutes se_ual harassment, that goes a bit further than just being creepy and not respecting boundaries
@@Operngeist1What are you trying to say here? First off, this sexual harassment is literally being creepy and not respecting boundaries. Secondly, that doesnt change anything I said. Harassment isnt assault and we would need more information to determine the level of harassment and if it makes Iskall a danger to the public or just someone who did something dumb and creepy. We are not entitled to those details.
This is worded perfectly I think more people need to see this comment something that crosses an ethical boundary shouldn’t be the end of one’s career it should be up to each viewer to decide if they can still watch him and if they want to
fully agree I think people overreact way too much nowdays, things aren't black and white, it's possible that the actions cross the line where you're comfortable with watching (or associating) with 'em, that's fine, but nothing criminal being done, just moral issues and a bit of harrasment, and then volountarily leaving, not trying to come up with excuses, does imho show that he does regret it, and isn't really a bad person, on the whole, much like cheating doesn't mean you're a bad person, just a bad partner (and in this case it's debateable whether that even occurred)...should he have acted this way? no, did he actually harm anyone? no, all he did was make adult people uncomfortable in private conversations, and not act in line with the expectations of someone he hadn't ever met physically, but had had a more consensual relationship with...I've not dug through the available info, and correlated it, but there's also the question of how do you know all the allegations are true in the first place, that it was actually him, and not a hacker (as the excuse was)? jumping to conclusions without hearing out the other side is such a problem, nowdays, too...
I can confirm I just went to the hermitcraft website and iskall and stress are not in the members lineup. Which is unfortunate as we all waited all summer and part of fall for stress to come back. Her last video on the server was 3 weeks ago and when she returned to the server after her break she explained. Now we know why she’s gone again.
Edit: Stress has eliminated any means for people to comment on her videos. I have a feeling when HC11 comes around next year.. she won’t be petitioning for a return. RIP to our favorite spunky Brits adorable content. I’ll be sad not hearing the laugh and shenanigans she gets into with iskall.
@ she and iskall did everything together. I’m sure because they were so close it played a part. I believe he helped get her on the server in the first place.
Wow, this is the first I've heard of this. I thought he had just 'left' temporarily, like he did in season 9 too, to give him time to concentrate on VaultHunters. The way Etho and others discussed him permits recently was very much like they expected him to be returning. No hint of allegations or drama.
@@zealouszombie I mean, if he's not on the server, he's not using them, and they can be redistributed. Those were the rules. Seems simple to me. (And X has access to all the data files, so if the permits are in the e-chest or something, he can pull them out.)
That's so sad about iskall and stress. They will be missed. I will mostly miss stress her videos were so fun to watch and she was so funny to watch. Her laugh was contagious. I wish the both of them the best. Maybe Stress will change her mind and will return back to hermitcraft. Until than god be with her and her family and Iskall. Thanks for sharing all your amazing talented builds you shared in minecraft.
I find this both a bit surprising and not at the same time. I wrongfully assumed Iskall was busy with vault hunters, like many other commenters here, until this video came up in my recommended. At the same time, if you watched Iskall's second channel when he's setting up a prank for Joel, or talking about his family when building the guardian farm, you would know he doesn't have the same vibes as he did in earlier seasons. Like Iskall himself stated, he wanted to be a bit more personal (which is why hermitcraft moved to 2nd channel to begin with) and that truly showed. For myself I enjoyed this more relaxed Iskall, but he was also less professional which is not suitable for hermitcraft brand. Hermitcraft is a brand where "every hermit is a talented minecrafter or entertainer who aim to set a good example for a family friendly audience". I imagine if you gave Iskall the role of managing the brand given that promise, he would see himself not fitting in too well based on that second part. Sure, Grian might start wars on the server, but the moment the community gets too heated he tells them that's not ok. Iskall on the other hand is ranting about personal stories, which is nothing wrong by itself, but doesn't fit the HC brand either. I wouldn't be surprised if Iskall realized this himself, especially after the behaviour of harassments, and withdrew from the HC brand. Doesn't matter if the allegations are true or not, business wise this is the correct form of actions. I'm actually happy Hermitcraft being transparent about the issue and communicate what's going on, even if they can't share any details. It's unfortunate considering how good of an entertainer Iskall is, I've probably laughed the most whenever Iskall was on screen, but actions has consequences and it is what it is. I'm also happy for the moderators who reported on his behaviour, especially as this seemed to be early in the stage and didn't blow up to something big. Iskall needed a reality check, which this hopefully brought him, and nobody is too angry about it. Good video. While I don't really like the "dramatized" transitions with black background and red text, it is UA-cam and it should be entertaining. The information gathered was good and presented nicely, I enjoyed the tweets from Mumbo and False clarifying the situation.
It's sad but Iskall changed by the time he stopped uploading in Season 7. When he came back the way he spoke and even the way he was laughing was different; to me, at least, Season 8 and 9 sound as if he was forcing himself to laugh a lot of the time instead of laughing naturally as he did before, and it looks like he continued to deteriorate until it got to this point.
@@SirBilby It's a bit at odds with the goal of just presenting facts neutrally stated in the video, and felt odd and off with the tone. Overall good video though, just sharing that i have the same feedback as the other commenter :D
Tbh... I wasn't surprised, loke maybe surprised that something happened in HC but not too surprised it's iskall. Don't get me wrong tho, I don't hate the guy I just stopped watching him, concluding his vids aint for me. Started watching him on Sahara thing but after a while I felt something off about his mannerism... gut feels or intuition, like he's the type of guy that would attract drama, like as you mentioned he's a bit ranty... Not sure how to explain but I just felt some wrong flags on him... w/c is why I dropped him off my watchlist completely.
Same here, I too believed it was just his work with vault hunters that kept him from hermitcraft. And while it may have affected it. VH clearly wasn’t the only thing going on. It all seemed to date back to after season 7 when Iskall made the Omega Tree. I loved that tree and it was probably his last time making something huge on the server. After that he kinda just didn’t feel the same. I’m sorta glad he got to play decked out 2.
I had noticed that Iskall was inactive for a while now, but I thought that had to do with him playing in VHsmp (which I don't watch). I didn't know about all this and I'm glad that the victims have spoken out! It's certainly very sad and disappointing for me to hear these allegations, because I've been a fan of Iskall for years, but now that he is out of the picture, I hope that the rest of the Hermits can continue without the group's reputation being tarnished, because as I see it they didn't know anything before the allegations were made and they responded appropriately. So, I hope this amazing group can continue delivering to us super entertaining content, without any more allegations about anything or drama!
Yes I completely agree and am in the same boat! 😢 I don’t watch VH but did watch his Hermitcraft I’m really sad about this but I’m glad the victims came out and said something!
@@Mayasoflya if it’s serious(like a lot more than we know) they might tare his down but if its what was in the video they will probably just leave it (but biased on the thumbnails, podcast, and merch they will probably tear it down) I’m also kinda curious on how they are gonna do the permits(does the permit office just reclaim them or?)
@ It definitely breaks the immersion aspect of hermitcraft. 😒This irl stuff will be challenging for hermits to navigate. Even addressing the permit now will beg for explanation… oof, what a mess.
2 things to note. 1 Grian has not taken Iskall out of any thumbnails currently 2 Iskall is still posting vault hunters on his 2nd channel but has not responded to anything yet.
i don’t see how not taking him out of thumbnails means anything tbh even if there’s allegations he can’t just cut iskall out of the videos since for some, that’s 50% or more of the video so taking him out of thumbnails doesn’t really change anything since atp ur just hiding that he was in the videos
He was removed from that one but I can’t find any others. I believe he was only removed from the title of videos and not the thumbnails as there are plenty of video such as Saharas grand opening, some of the dragon bros videos as well as the video where Iskall and Grian make a fake Mumbo bc he didn’t show up to the meeting. I think the only episode that was changed was the golf one because it was the only one to have iskall85s name in the title.
Edit he was removed from a few others all in season 6 He was removed from episode 53 where the original title was “iskall architect lol” but was changed to “the invetation” He was also removed from episode 60. The original title was “don’t tell Iskall” and now it is “don’t tell anyone” Finally that I kind find he was removed from 93 where the original title was “I am sorry Iskall” but was changed to “dragon bros” which is the same name as another season 6 episode
@@owengifkins995speaking of dragon Bros, I wonder if Ely has responded in any way. Edit: Ely did indeed respond. Except for the thumbnail of RmR2, there's no videos of iskall's song remixes or mentions in titles or thumbnails
Ok so compared to other celebrities and what they did, he seems to be on the more (tame?) side of the spectrum. What he did is bad and he isn’t an angel ig, but it could be a lot worse. All he seems to be is an awkwardly online flirt and a cheater, still bad behavior but isn’t close to the likes of Wilbur or something.
I mean this with no I’ll intent but I feel like it is important not to compare what he has done to others. what wilbur did was worse than what iskall did but iskall still hurt people with what he did. while yes, he could have done worse that doesn’t excuse what he has done and it’s important to remember that 🫶 it’s also important to note that we don’t have all of the information nor do we really know the situation.
Did the person Iskall was harassing say that they wanted Iskall to stop? It's still bad even if they didn't, but Iskall didn't legally do anything wrong from what I can tell.
Inappropriate messages between adults and failed attempts at flirting are one thing, but I don't see how those alone could get Grien and Mumbo to remove all mention of him going back 6 years. Especially since they are/were all pretty close friends. Either something else happened that we don't know about, or it's just an issue with ethics and people not clearly setting personal boundaries from the get-go.
It's more that he kept pushing it, and was cheating on his partner in the process, not to mention sending explicit material to his fans and moderators. One moderator was clearly uncomfortable and Iskall even noticed he was changing the subject repeatedly, but kept the behavior going until it was clear it wasn't working, and went back to his commited partner. It's not illegal, it's no crime, but it's gross and really paints Iskall as a jerk. Plus, in a formal workplace with a good HR department, what Iskall did to his moderator, technically his employee, would have been frowned upon and might have gotten him into trouble. I think, if it were just one of these things (not including the explicit material, which is a step too far in my opinion unless everyone involved was okay with it), or if everyone was comfortable and consenting of the situation, it'd probably could have been explained as a misunderstanding or miscommunication, may have not resulted in him leaving the group. But I think its the combination of all these factors that ultimately led to this decision. Also he wasn't kicked out, he chose to leave. Grian and Mumbo allegedly erasing mention of him (apparently the way it was reported in the video isnt completely accurate), really has little to do with what happened and it's just needlessly fueling speculation and drawing needless scrutiny on Grian and Mumbo. What Iskall did was over the line, that much is clear even without all the details. Idle speculation beyond what we know is kind of pointless, I think. The Hermits and those affected have already said their piece and have drawn boundaries.
@PatManDX Oh yeah, I completely understand that what Iskall did was over the line and made a lot of people uncomfortable and upset with him. At first it may have been a case of people not setting clear boundaries from the get-go, which was most likely followed by a lot of downplay and avoiding the subject, as suggested by that moderators statement. The cheating and persistence of Iskall, however, is definitely a major screw up by him. That is not okay in any way.
i believe its most likely to do with their reputation and preservation of the hermitcraft group, drama can be really bad for groups like hermit craft that pride themselves on more family friendly values. that's probably why they were so thorough with cutting iskall out of the brand.
They memory holed him? Ok officially fuck those two. Mr I need vacations from playing videogames and Mr I need to travel to get inspirations for my builds in a videogame.
This is really informative, I was told something happened by the owner of our Minecraft server and we were all concerned but because I don’t use much social media I couldn’t find much
@@SirBilbyyes thank you sooo much I draw fanart and was going to draw iskal next (I’m not on a lot of drama stuff and didn’t know) but I’m so glad I saw a comment on it then this was very informative without trying to defend one side more than the other (used to watch Wilbur saw way to many explanations trying to defend him😢)
thinking of this made me extremely uncomfortable for joel and in the moment i thought it was really weird, can’t imagine how he feels about any encounters he had with him now.
@@w1ld322 In that episode, Iskall constantly flirts with him. It’s played off as a joke then, but becomes a lot more serious when you take the sexual harrassment allegations into account.
My personal take at the moment is that this is still a very private matter, and honestly, not one that the public needs to know about. All we need to know is that Iskall made some mistakes, and he decided to leave the hermitcraft server. Maybe there is some fallout between him and the other members, but we can't say that for certain. Clearly, there is still some sense of care as Mumbo and others advocated that there were no minors involved. And I want everyone to remember that you don't have to feel icky or ashamed that you enjoyed his content. He's a charismatic and hilarious guy who makes good videos.
I can't say I quite understand why this was a large enough issue to completely wipe Iskall from Hermitcraft, thumbnails and merch. It seems that, at most, he was an overbearingly awkward flirt and a cheater, so I can understand him leaving the family-friendly server. Wiping him from everything so fast and so thoroughly is odd, though, makes me think that there's more there to it if it's not just an overreaction
hmm, yes, it does feel like there might be something more to it. perhaps they're choosing to keep it quiet until they a) know for sure or b) just don't want to say some things because of the family-friendly aspect
There's plenty of UA-camrs out there way more popular than iskall that have been guilty of similar and far worse accusations and nobody has shadow banned them or scrubbed them from anything.
i had no idea about any of this. Starting this season I decided to watch (or try to watch) every member's POV and even though I watched Iskall from Mumbo's POV way back in season 7, I got reminded just how funny and hilarious he is from his S10 videos (even though sometimes it was awkward). So when he stopped making Hermitcraft videos or even showing up on other people's episodes, I thought he got burnt out like he does usually apparently. Then I found out about vaulthunters, no idea what that is so I thought he got busy with that server. It doesn't make much sense why every trace of his existence should be wiped at most for being really awkward and flirting which makes me wonder how bad those conversations were. The cheating part IS inexcusable imo. BUT the fact that every hermit did take the measures they took suggests some extra drama going on, it usually does. As for Stress I assume she wanted to support his friend
I'm a new fan who didn't really watch Iskall, but when Mumbo did a lot with Iskall earlier this season, I thought Iskall was really funny. It's so sad that we can't even have a family-friendly drama-free server.
@@stupidspinach421 I'm sorry, thats just how I read it, I guess I just misunderstood what she was saying. but, how can you be so sure that it *was* related? I don't think any of the hermits have said that her leaving was because of Iskall.
@@bcmoore671 so her best friend in the server and maybe in real life leaves the server. At the same time she leaves as well for unknown reason. And you don't think that convenient or related?
So glad to hear it! That was exactly my aim making this video. Yeah it’s weird how people are disassociating with him. Who knows - it’s not our place to speculate. I’m sure they’ll explain more. But until then I’m glad I can help spread information!!
isnt it obvious why? this is their job and its important that they maintain their good reputation in order to keep doing that job, being associated with someone with bad reputation damages that. its also just normal to not want to be associated with someone that has done something ethically wrong. this was likely both a business decision and a moral one. its not like every single video with him is being deleted either, they're just removing any direct mentions of his name from episode titles in order to publicly distance themselves from him and show solidarity with the victims
Do you all just gloss over the fact that he sent explicit photos to the victims? There’s so many comments saying “what he did wasn’t that bad, not compared to…” it is not a comparison! You don’t erase one victims pain because there are people that go through worse. He also approached all these victims as either their boss or someone they look up to which is a gross power dynamic. The hermits thought it serious enough to confront him about it. Few of them have even said it’s much worse than what’s been shown to the public. This weird defence of brushing it off as awkward flirting is gross. You don’t flirt with someone if they don’t flirt back. You don’t continuously harass them if they show no interest.
Yes!! I think so much of this is normalized now days and people think it’s okay. It’s not. It’s just not. That isn’t to say people can’t grow. He took a step back from hermit craft that’s good. We should be looking out for people and their boundaries. We shouldn’t flirt continuously if they don’t show they want too. And don’t reciprocate. Also how he did it. Guilting people for not responding and reciprocating, shutting it down and changing the subject, is gross. Withholding interaction if they don’t reciprocate. It’s all just weird.
looking through the comments, it's kinda crazy how people harrassing adults is seen as a "nothingburger" because of how normalized harassing minors has gotten in the mcyt community. guys, just bc its not criminal doesn't mean its not unethical. obviously harassing minors is worse, but that doesnt mean harassing adults is okay ??? shitty behavior is still shitty behavior even when its not illegal lol
@@smokeyangelav Sending photos in the middle of consensual flirty conversation that another person actively engages with is not harassment. It might be misreading a room, in which case it's another person's job to establish boundaries, but it's not harassment.
@@Straga_Severa you do not send explicit photos to anyone without asking first period. If you did that in person where I live, it could get you in the sex offender list. Just peeing on the side of the road can. You can not expose yourself.
@@theGIR_entertainment TFC actually went through his own drama. The Hermits had his back and worked through that. Had it only been “girl problems” with Iskall, they would have done the same. While Iskall resigned, all the other actions by Hermits and some of the statements from those on VH make it clear it was more serious. It truly sucks but he made some poor decisions and hurt many.
Okay, I'm going to address some things in this comment that I feel are important for people to know. First of all, many people have already said that part or all of the reason why Iskall's name is being erased from hermitcraft is because of hermitcraft's family friendly brand, however hermitcraft is even more than this. Much of hermitcraft's reputation relies on not just family friendliness but also on a lack of drama and controversy, and even a minor controversy that for most creators could be a bit damaging but otherwise forgotten about eventually could completely destroy hermitcraft's branding and reputation, and Iskall and the other hermits likely know this, which could be the reason why Iskall left so suddenly and the unexplained removal of his presence from earlier hermitcraft content. Secondly, there is a possibility that, if true, we will likely never know if it is, and that is that Iskall could have requested his removal from hermitcraft content for privacy reasons or for the protection of him and the other hermits or whatever. Third, it is very possible that there is something bigger, potentially more serious, that has not been publicly revealed by anyone involved. There's not much I can really say on this, but it is very much possible. Fourth, I would like to address that the term "allegations" has become a very loaded term recently, and it is important to remember that an allegation is, by definition, not something that has been definitively proven to be true. If it has been definitively proven to be true, it is no longer an allegation, an allegation is NOT an objective fact OR something completely impossible, until proven otherwise it is just a possibility. Almost everything involved here is a POSSIBILITY, the only things we know FOR SURE (as in what we can blatantly see with our own eyes and can't really challenge or disprove), is that Iskall and Stress have left and that there have been allegations of harrassment against Iskall and the removal of Iskall from some previous hermitcraft content. Pretty much everything I have said so far are also just possibilities until definitively proven otherwise. An allegation also does not have to be something serious that requires deplatforming or arrest or anything, and these allegations should not be treated like or compared to more serious allegations that other minecraft youtubers have faced. Fifth, I would like to say that there is, so far as of the time of writing this comment, nothing that shows that there are any legal issues, mainly just moral/ethical issues and potentially reputation issues. I would also like to point out that anything said within the hermitcraft server itself within a video is very rarely going to be connected to real life, so anything about anyone saying they have a problem with Iskall or something within the server prior to his resignation is just connected to the hermits' characters, not real life. Social media posts and other stuff outside of the server itself posted by the hermits or other involved people do not necessarily follow this "rule". (I say "rule" in quotes cause it's not really a rule, but you know what i mean.)
Your five points make sense. When it comes to point 1 I would like to mention that if they don't make a public statement relatively soon, they will create the greater controversy than if they kept him on while being open about it. Vagueness and untransparency is the main fuel of controversy. Of course if there is some bigger ethical/legal thing happening then that could be an issue too, but even then they should be as transparent as possible to reduce controversy as much as possible.
@@Moe_Posting_Chad they have young community members and it was happening in the community. As far as I know in this point of time the Hermitcraft crew act cautious and some fans overblow it.
This is so heartbreaking. I liked Iskall. Didn't watch his videos, but adored the dynamic between him, Grian and Mumbo. My dear Architechs. Not even Hermitcraft is safe from the "dirty sock drawers" stuff anymore...
Hermitcraft is what it is for good reason. They are strict, if a person wanted to get in, they would have to be invited by everyone on the server. They are strictly family friendly and are some of the oldest and most well known members of the larger community (Philza once said that he doesn’t think he could get in, just because he swears too much for the servers family friendly atmosphere). You can imagine that if a person is being a creep then it may put the others on the server off, but what’s important is that he left on his own, its normal to remove a member that left from the title card. For Mumbo and Grian there may be something personal about it, which would be why they reacted so strongly (strongly isn’t the right word), in which case we have no way of knowing(and no right to know) why they reacted the way they did, or it could just be that those two are some of the more popular members with an image to uphold, both understandable in my eye. For Grian it may be him being super family friendly as that is what he strives for and it could be to avoid drama that comes with this community. All reasoning I think is reasonable, the oldest server in the community (I believe, I’ll be surprised if it isn’t), it stands for the vision that was built when the server was built, and the idea that this community is in large part underaged.
Though I am sad that Hermitcraft isn't spared from drama and controversy, I do find comfort that it wasn't blown out of proportion, and it was resolved peacefully and (relatively) quietly
I honestly feel like I'm missing something. Everyone is acting like this is some super serious offense, but it sounds like the dude just hit on women while he had a girlfriend. That obviously makes him a jerk to his girlfriend, but why are the other women being called "victims"? I'm not a smart man. Someone help me out here.
@@Alex-mc7sx "he sexually harassed people" - Can you point me to where this happened? All the texts I saw posted were little more than really bad flirtation. Dude definitely has no game, but is that really sexual harassment? Perhaps there's more info on this that I just haven't seen? Admittedly, I'm not fully up to speed on all this. "manipulated several of them" - Yeah, I can agree with that. "and abused his power" - OK here's where you lose me again. What "power" does this guy have? Where these paid employees of his? Or just volunteer moderators? It does make a difference. Not trying to be argumentative here. Just trying to learn more about the situation because "sexual harassment" is a very strong accusation.
This is honestly one of the more tame minecraft youtuber dramas out there. All parties handled it respectfully, the perpetrator took logical actions and didnt deny or gaslight, and the bystanders simply cleaned up the remaining mess. All in all, Hermitcraft really handled this well.
Assuming everything stated is true - I don't endorse what Iskall allegedly did as moral. Assuming everything stated is true - I don't endorse what Iskall allegedly did as cool. However, I also don't see rejecting flirtations and promises as equal to victimhood, either. I'm troubled by the lack of clear evidence against Iskall, but I'm willing to weigh this assuming it's true. I'm also troubled by the amount of ad hominem attacks being thrown at everyone and anyone who doesn't share in thinking this amounts to victimhood or SA. By this standard, if a girl flirts with me and I reject her advances (and maybe she isn't single), I'm a "victim". I surely don't think so. I just think rejecting her makes me moderately intelligent. Circling back, now - I might see victimhood if there was evidence to sustain that. Even if I accept all that is alleged, I'm not seeing victimhood yet. I wonder what harsh name-calling is about to be levied against me for thinking so.
@@Alex-mc7sx I would believe the screenshots if the screenshots actually showed anything that amounted to victimhood but they don't. Much ado about nothing. Like I said in the beginning, I'm assessing this from the position that everything they said was true in the first place. Maybe you missed that.
I didnt even know about this until i got recommended a video about a lawryer explaining iskall regination. eithier im out of the loop or they kept this hush hush
@@SirBilby you should look into grian and iskall's history I have noticed grian and iskall always had a certain awkwardness to them like they didnt get along. After Hermitcraft 7, you barely can see iskall or grian interacted with each other in season 8 or 9. Grian also didnt invite iskall to join his life series even though they had history and got along with each other during season 6 and 7. Only did I see both grian and iskall interact (awkwardly) in Hermitcraft 10 since iskall had a project where he needed every hermit to participate in placing a block. So if grian didn't get along with iskall then there were already signs or red flags behind the scene even before this controversy happened.
to say he was a beloved member of the Minecraft community would be an understatement. this is really sad to see and i hope everyone involved is now ok and happy.
@@Shirokroete His career wasn’t ended, he chose to resign from Hermitcraft after the other members confronted him about it (and let’s be real, he’s barely been active on the server for the past few years anyway, this was probably just the straw to break the camel’s back). nothing stopping him from continuing his channel with other stuff
I mean a mod is not exactly labor... but regardless uh you certainly can. i imagine if she said "Nah bro I'm not really into you like that..." i would think both parties would have moved on with their lives.
@@wyomingptt Labor in this context means work, and if you've ever moderated you'll know it can be a lot of work. And it doesn't matter at all if the work is voluntary or paid.
Kind of sad to see, I was picking up on some red flags from him lately and I was hoping it didn't mean anything. I guess online fame and working alone from home isn't a good combination, I can imagine the loneliness and a lack of real social skills leading to something like this. Not that that justifies anything, but I hope he can be better
I’m not gonna lie, I legitimately cried when I first heard the news. I’ve grown up with Hermitcraft from 2018 (very early s6) to this day, and as the years went on and I became more aware that the world isn’t all sunshine and rainbows, I thought Hermitcraft was going to be the one place free of this kind of drama, since it is a family friendly server, and everyone both on the server and in the fandom are absolute angels to each other. And I’m a Grian girlie, so ArchiTechs and Sahara were life back then, but of course, nothing in life ever quite goes the way you want it to, does it?
I get 12 year olds are overdramatic but I mean saying HermitCraft is now somehow tainted is a bit overreactive imo. Iskall has barely even been on the server for the last two seasons. Besides if you look at a list of former HC members, there's been others who've had some sort of controversy. So its not the first time.
People keep saying it's because Hermitcraft is "family friendly." No this is an ethical (and yes, also legal) issue. A person in a position of power "flirting" with employees (even if he was single) is not okay unless that person in power is DAMN sure that employee is ok with it. Companies have contracts for people to sign when having office relationships over different levels JUST FOR THIS REASON! They would have a legal case to press charges for harassment, because that position of power allows them to be potentially abusive or pressure a person into complying/enduring, but that legal action is not happening. The Hermits simply asked for clarifications and Iskall resigned. If you have a problem with that... you'd be fine with your strange boss making advances on you or one of your loved ones being stuck in that situation I guess? Seems sad.
A lesson I learned a long time ago is you may think you know a person but you do not truly know who they really are on the inside. I hate that this happened to the victims but at the same time I'm glad they found the courage and strength to step forward and bring this situation to light. I'm not sure what will happen going forward but I think we can all agree that Iskall deserves diorite for Christmas
So courageous. So brave. I sincerly hope they can somehow rebuild their lives and get themselves to a better place. I would like to say to them, the worst is over and we are here to help them get the justice they deserve!
This honestly breaks my heart. I honestly never thought Iskall would do something like this, but after reading the replies and links in the description, it speaks for itself. I know my naivety to want to believe the best in people will catch up to me like this, but Iskall? I’d never of guessed. Why would he’d have done something so stupid and use his platform (and abuse it) to try to forcibly flirt with women who clearly weren’t always interested? 😢 (This is from the perspective of a woman who has felt that kind of pressure from a man. It isn’t easy to stand up for yourself nor fun)
"Pronouncing things wrong" Can you give specific examples? Are you aware that accents exist? I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, and "timing" may just be from slightly clunky editing. Also an AI channel wouldn't reply to comments lmao
@@jammyjimmy666 The owner is probably lying just using an AI to create the voice so their own voice isn't on the internet and it sounds like an English accent to me tbh
@@jammyjimmy666 you can hear audio clipping, along with cadences and audio quirks that only appear within ai voices. it's less "specific examples" and more experience with ai voices, which this video seems to mirror.
My Two Cents: He was asked about it and Chose to resign, he wasn't kicked or banned, he decided to leave. Besides that, it just seems like a cheating scandal, he'll be fine - People will most likely forget abt it since so far, no minors are involved. (Because, sadly that's how internet drama works)
Am I supposed to be morally invested in the private life of a man that is a stranger to me, and I am supposed to dump that emotional investment because some other literal stranger said so? And you a third stranger are morally lecturing me and the rest of the audience? Why does it feel like I am one of the only adults in the room?
In the documents shared, there were only accusations and recapping what was said. "Paraphrasing ". I have yet to see proof of wrong doing. If you are asking people to cancel someone, we deserve more than "trust me, he is bad". Im not defending iskall. If he did something wrong. I would just like the facts/proof before i kick someone to the curb.
@@farmerchunk2661 I hear this - it can be difficult when there is a lack somewhat of such evidence. However, all the parties involved have confirmed that they do exist, and the hermits have seen them. They’ve just withheld them as it is a family friendly community. It’s possible more info will be released soon. But it’s super important that we don’t disbelieve the victims either - this happens all too often! We just have to wait and see (hence this video does not share my personal opinion!)
From what the hermit craft account said, they obviously did some of their own investigations. I trust they found a solid amount of evidence to justify the response. Up and leaving when questioned isn’t exactly the response of an innocent man.
Bro iskall.... I used to love this guy's video and i thought he was just on another project and busy with vault hunter. Its still very unclear if iskall SA a person or did that person gave the consent for now im glad its not a minor
Bro chill 😂, he was flirting online… with an adult.. did nothing wrong, you can’t give consent for a text message 😅. Sure the messages were weird, but he probably just doesn’t know how to talk to women 😂.
@@Luke_Skvwalkerin what world is sending someone unwanted nudes flirting? That’s something you do with a committed partner not some person you’re remotely interested in
Thank you for this video. I had no idea about this. I’m a big fan of hermitcraft but don’t really keep up with the things that go on outside the server. Now knowing what’s happened, from your video and some cursory research elsewhere, I’m proud of the Hermits for how they have handled the situation, and proud of those affected by Iskall’s behaviour. As someone who has been in a situation similar to what they went through, I know how hard it is to speak about it, whether through shame, guilt, or disbelief. To anyone who is or has been in such a situation, may the universe guide to find the strength to overcome. Remember you are loved.
@@Labyrinth_Props you’re welcome! Glad it helped. Thanks so much for the comment. What you say is absolutely true and a very important message to get across!
Honestly as much as the hermits say that Stress was not involved, it still seems a bit strange that she also chose to leave at that time, knowing that she and Iskall were kinda close to my knowledge, or at least the collaborated a lot. Idk how she would be involved but still very strange.
I had no idea this had happened. Two of my favourite Hermits no longer on the server, this hits hard. I feel bad for Stress, cause it's obviously effected her and saw it as a reason to leave after being so patchy at certain points throughout the year. I hope she'll be okay. 😢
I know some are saying that Mumbo overreacted by taking down the Sahara merch, etc, but I personally respect his decision. That being said, I'm glad I got my Sahara merch when I could, and I'm really sorry for those who weren't able to. Grian is the one who got me into hermitcraft, and Sahara will always be one of my favorite storylines from any of the seasons, alongside the 1.14 village race to build height between Grian, Mumbo, and Iskall. It may be a bit sour now, but the memory of watching it for the first time will always stick around.
Random thought - removing the Iskall-related merch could be Rights/Profit-sharing related. Anything sold by Hermits that Iskall could be considered as contributing to, he might potentially be able to claim his share of the revenue from, and that would be very difficult to figure out.
For the people saying "he as adult flirted with other adults, I don't see anything wrong here" few things: 1. I doubt this is EVERYTHING that has happened. I think most of it is still kept secret for the sake of HC, Iskall and potential victims (Iskall was good friends with several hermits, something more major has to happen for them to part ways). This way Iskall can still do content creation and not be labeled as offender. He "officially" left HC himself and it's for you to believe it or not. This is most mature way of separating for both him and HC and some things should just not be available to public. 2. HC would have had even bigger scandal, if they did nothing. Imagine these news would spread. Now "family friendly" server has an alleged offender as a member and nothing is being done. How would that look?
If Iskall was not a "Minecraft influencer" these people would have laughed at his messages and moved on with their lives. Cringey and/or aggressive flirting is really all I saw. That is what he did. Other then the supposed "inappropriate photo" what did he really do wrong. If the poster would have clearly set a boundary and said "Dude.. No.." I imagine he would have moved on, but instead they go out of their way to avoid doing that. Which is fine obviously, but then they act like they're some sort of victim. And you can't really just say "Oh I'm sure he did other stuff so he deserves X". I mean that's how the internet works I get it, but it shouldn't be like that lol. The second reason is the real reason he's gone. Iskall is barely on the server, and they didn't want to put a black mark on their kid friendly brand.
"I doubt this is EVERYTHING that has happened" And I doubt that literally *ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS EVER.* This is playground bullshit and yall shoulda left it back in Kindergarten!
@@andreamaral9725 Then that is on *YOU* to *ENFORCE* that *BOUNDARY* for *YOURSELF.* Its not my business nor is it anyone else's what Iskall does privately. This is a genuine slippery slope and more of people believe in this "nothing to hide nothing to fear." And it is getting really old.
The core four I followed on Hermitcraft were Mumbo, Grian, Iskall, and Tango. They were all so bubbly and just overall very pleasing to watch. I watched every Hermitcraft video from them that released. Eventually, I started losing the luxury of free time to watch UA-cam and it boiled down to three, sadly leaving Tango out. I heard about Vault Hunters, but was a little skeptical, I thought it to be too much of a deviant from my taste. Soon I broke down and watched one, then watched all, then followed it as it released. Yet again, my free time started slipping away, as what happens as a child grows, but I didn't even realize that I wasn't watching Iskall anymore. It finally hit me at one point that he wasn't uploading and I was like "man, where'd he go? What a shame..." I stumbled across this video and my heart dropped. This shattered my perspective on many things, and I'm 18. You were my childhood, Iskall. You got me through the Hell of school during Covid. Damn you, why did you do this? I will still cherish the memory of the fun Vault Hunter guy, but that is completely split and separate of what you have become.
Okay, so, the TL;DR is that Iskall flited with/at some people in his community, some reciprocated, one(so far) didn't, allegedly he was cheating by doing this, but he claims not to have a partner? From what has been shared so far, and after looking through the megathread on reddit, the only victim is the mod who never reciprocated the flirting back, which can/should be viewed as harassment, the other 2 are valid in feeling hurt but are still adults at the end of the day and engaged in mutual flirting. BUT, it seems very clear to me that there is a lot more "explicit" information that has yet to be revealed publicly. Speculation would be that there are more people involved, more explicitly, and potentially some coercion/blackmail. As of now, I'll hold my breath and hope it's only what we've seen so far, and people are distancing themselves to maintain their image, rather than something more having occurred.
Dang, thank's for making this video! I was just on a call with a freidn last night and he told me that Iskall was in a controversy. I looked it up and found this. It's crazy that not even Hermitcraft is safe from drama.
I don't think this is drama, the hermits aren't putting him on blast or slandering him. They were presented with allegations, they probably talked about it as a group like all their meetings, and Iskall chose to leave voluntarily. I think as a community we need to accept what happened and not assume more than is shared.
Its real important that people say stuff when they're uncomfortable, makes it a lot less likely that more people end up being victims. No need to feel guilty, your emotions are important and valid, if you feel uncomfortable just say so!
@@L4w1 I have been watching since Mindcrack slowly dissolved. Why would I not be a fan for having a strong bias AGAINST cancel culture and spreading DRAMA about the Hermit's PERSONAL PRIVATE LIVES? What is actually wrong with you? Are you some teenager that was raised by an ipad? Is that why you think this way?
@@That_Gunner560 So you have no real capacity to defend your own terrible ideas? That's sad for you. Fact is. This is a rude exchange between adults. There is literally nothing more to this, but asocial people like you must turn it into some grand victimization! Do you really not have a life? Are you so cordial and even tempered that you have never been rude or had an embarrassing exchange with someone else? Don't lie to me, everyone has had these awkward exchanges. How would you like it if your every misspeaking or bad joke was amplified on social media by A-Logs and used to force you out of your business relationships? You are such a slimy worm.
It was literally mentioned they tried going over to different topics. It is not a 'no' question, if there is no 'yes' there has not been a 'no'. Also- power dynamics. They were his MODS.
@ I disagree. If they felt uncomfortable they should’ve said so and made their feelings clear. How else could he change his behavior? And they were his mods so what? They didn’t get paid as far as I know.
Nah the issue is the women he flirted with were his employees per say. Additionally he kept trying to be flirty with them when they tried making it clear they were not interested. That’s the issue.
@@olliemcdowell4503 Its really not. Many twitch mods for large streamers are paid to moderate, as they need to set aside their time every stream and be on constant alert. So it very much is a Boss and employee situation. Iskall was flirting with employees, with people who he has a power dynamic with, while cheating on someone who actually loved him, and being a creep. Things like these can get you fired from your workplace, and he chose to resign when confronted, he wasnt kicked out, he resigned.
Thank you for taking the time and making an effort to compile this, I was quite confused when everything suddenly got shoved in my face and couldn't quite figure out why everything was happening all at once :')
Considering his inactivity on Hermitcraft and his focus on the VH SMP, why did they reach out specifically to Hermitcraft? That's like calling someone's boss to tattle that they didn't wear a seatbelt when you drove with them. If it involved illegal activity, then you go to the police. It seems more like jilted love interests trying to drag his name through the mud in response to feeling betrayed. And with the mod, it seems she wasn't interested but instead of shutting down the advances with a clear no, she played along at arm's distance. It's not a "gotcha" if you baited out your evidence because the other person thought things were mutually consensual.
Actually based. Too many comments here condemning him with a lack of concrete evidence of any real wrongdoing. To be fair, I didn't read the documents, but if they didn't say "stop," or make their discomfort known, they can't possibly be a 'victim'. If anything, iskall would be a victim of defamation. Hoping more damning evidence doesn't come out, but until it does, some of these people in this comments section need to chill out.
Considering how the rest of the world functions-with all kinds of creeps working in big companies and all the workplace drama I hear IRL-this feels tame. The guy made a mistake by behaving like that, yes, but I still wish him the best and hope everyone involved can recover.
This is so disappointing. Im glad the hermits reacted maturely and are handling the situation with care. I was wondering why I hadn’t seen him in other hermits videos for a while…. Gosh. I just hope Stress is doing well at this time and is not being affected by anything going on.
am i the only one who doesnt see the severity here? no minor where involved, no sex fotos where sent, nobody got violent. flirting with somebody over text isnt a crime, even when its only onesided. people seem to forget that on the internet, you can always block and walk away. the internet needs to be studied for its obsession with nonexistent drama
I very much appreciate you just presenting the facts and not expanding to guesses and assumptions that might not be true like so many other videos would.
i feel there is something more to this story. Theses stories are so recent that it begs the question why Iskall left so suddenly- like he was trying to hide something more…
Why no one talkes about evidence? There is no good evidence against Iskall right now, just some words that we must believe to be true. Presented screeenshots are just some of-context mess. If she worries about kids, so there are a lot of 18+ platforms where she can post full screenshots. I can't believe her words just because she said so! My opinion can be changed if a good evidence is presented, but right now I can only hope that Iskall will be alright, wish him all the best!
I just want to say huge respect to you for pulling this video together in such a kind and respectful way. It's refreshing to get the facts presented in an unbiased way, and also see compassion for victims and those caught in the crossfire, as well as you signposting how people can get help. Just really lovely, thank you
Most I see is him being weird and doing too much, but the other person can just tell them to stop messaging them or something, either something is being hidden or this is exaggerated a lot :(
As it sounds like iskall has send unwanted nudes to some specific fans and moderators and has become explicit in the chat. It's not published to prevent children seeing or reading it. So even though it's a more mild form of sexual harassment, it's still sexual harassment. Some might also dislike that he did that while being in a relationship, so cheating on his partner, but we don't know if they have an open relationship or not, so it's hard to say if it was cheating. But he also said in the chat with his victims, that he's not in a relation ship. So he let those, who where interested, think they have a chance of coming together with him until he ghosted them. As it sounds like, it's mostly sexually harassing people via skype by sending explicit content and playing with their feelings.
I don’t have twitter and had no clue what was going on…. I knew Iskall hadn’t streamed or posted a video in a while, but I assumed he had IRL problems. I never expected THIS.
INFORMATION
- Most of the information summed up here: www.reddit.com/r/HermitCraft/comments/1h3bgtl/iskall85_stressmonter_resignation_megathread/
- www.reddit.com/r/HermitCraft/
- hermitcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Hermitcraft_Wiki
Statements:
- Mefallit, Vault Hunters and Iskall community member: pastebin.com/Ln3nVRkq
- Kasszi, one of Iskall's moderators: docs.google.com/document/d/1paBcGkIfDWCyHcxhDrdhEGGvtpJL8yAqBR3HCKNK7DU/edit?tab=t.0
- An (anonymous) victim has come forward, verified by Kasszi. x.com/starssoul0808/status/1860827397534159283
- A statement has been released by Kasszi on behalf of another victim: pastebin.com/Y4MZN7Nm
Grian changed titles, not thumbnails. My bad - I was given incorrect information on that count.
00:34: Chapter 1 - The Announcement
01:53: Chapter 2 - The Allegations
04:27: Chapter 3 - Going Public
05:31: Skip To Here if you need to!
05:50: Chapter 4 - The Reactions
07:00: Chapter 5 - The Future
I checked and grian still has thumbnails with iskall85 ... season 6 episode 53 he is on it but also ep. 67, 80, 71,72,99,102...
@ yeah I checked last night and put a little note in the description and pinned comment. Turns out I was given misinformation there - it was titles he removed him from (to avoid being related on search terms for ‘Iskall’ I guess)
Some guy flirts with girl, tells some lies. Now shes a 'victim' who needs her voice heard. You internet witch-hunt mobs need to get out once in a while, see the real world.
Btw, in regards to 2:23, did you mean you were gonna set up chapters in the video, so you could easily see where the next chapter was?
Thank you for posting the sources. Reading those is... Unsettling as someone who's loved iskalls interactions with mumbo and grian over the years.
from what ive heard stress was already on the verge of leaving the server, with iskall being her main tie. i believe after finding out about all of this she decided to leave and focus on her family
She’d been mostly mia since s8 anyway and the only one I never subbed to. Wonder how their builds on s10 are going to be handled…
@@JamesOfEarthI’d assume just left there? At least for stress no real reason to get rid of thek
I'm a bit behind on all this, why was Strees on the verge of leaving?
@@leventeborbely7120 i think just lost interest and other time commitments? i think a major chunk was wanting more time with her kids
I will miss her accent
This is such a shame. The old Iskall & Mumbo End-busting streams were some of my favorite livestreams I've ever watched.
The dragon bros are no more.
do you even end bust 🎵
mhmm
mumbo is woke now xD
Season Six Architechs. Those three's videos got me through tough times.
I've seen stuff on tumblr talking about how the hermits handled this really well, and I agree with that, the victims trusted the hermits when they told a hermit about it, and the hermits made swift action, believing victims, confronting him, then releasing that statement about resignation only when the victims were ready, and being prompt about removing mention of him in video titles, podcast, website, etc, etc, so the victims weren't dragged through the mud with the internet ripping them apart, the hermits confronted, he resigned, so we're in the aftermath of it all, the hermits have what they need, so we might get more info, we might not, but the hermits of hermitcraft are amazing for being professional, responsible, & mature with handling all of this, so I'm glad to still be a part of the hermitcraft fan community
@@CristianCooks this isn't "cancelling" him, this is taking action to support victims of sexual harassment, which is what happened, this was parasocial behavior gone too far, this is a popular online creator making sexual advances with fans, that power dynamic makes it harassment, not just "weirdness" or "flirting", there may have not been intentionally malicious actions, but that behavior is still not ok and was deemed as such by the hermits, where he was confronted about it & resigned
@@sisi7304 "which is what happened" And they have the evidence for it?? I haven't looked into the situation, this is the first I hear of it, but if it turns out that the word of the alleged victims is all there is to it, then this very much is a cancellation.
@@buragi5441 yes, the hermit have evidence of this, the victims aren't alleged, and posted some receipts but didn't want to share all of them publicly due to the sexual nature of some of them, the hermits have what they need, that's why they posted about believing the victims, and came to the decision about confronting the now former hermit together because sexual harassment is against hermitcraft's family friendly nature, and his response was resignation, that's all it is, it's not to say people *can't* enjoy his content (tho some don't want to anyway due to what he did), so it's not cancelling him, but he is no longer a hermit and therefore if you (the generalized plural "you", not you specifically) watch him for hermitcraft, he isn't part of it now, this situation was very professionally handled as it should be for any sort of similar thing, believe victims, always
Him being removed from all content was absurd. Why are they acting like he doesn't exist now? His friends turned on him beause they care about their image? Just because of something in his personal life? These people are not even "victims" since they're not underage and, regardless of whether it's normal or inappropriate, it is him talking to other people in his personal life.
@Colijgaming removing him from content like titles or guest star eps is to prevent searches leading to those videos, the hermits weren't (afaik) turning on him, but more making sure that if people, especially parents of relatively young children, search up hermitcraft + his name, he wouldn't appear on the channels that are family friendly or for hermitcraft in general being family friendly, it's not necessarily about image in that regard, it's letting it known that sexual harassment or similar manipulative behavior is not ok for the hermits & hermitcraft, yes it was part of his personal life technically, but the victims were *fan viewers* or moderators, there's a very clear & obvious power dynamic & imbalance that makes the behaviors considered sexual assault, which on top of that, this also happened *while in a relationship with a long term partner* when talking to multiple of those fans/mods in explicit ways, and that is cheating on top of the sexual harassment, while it is correct that (afawk) there are no underage people involved, adults can absolutely still be victims of sexual harassment or assault as well as abuse & manipulation, the vast majority of sexual harassment & sexual assault (at least in the US) actually happens to college students on campuses (particularly at or just after parties where alcohol is involved), college students are over 18, but they would still be victims if harassed or assaulted, the same applies here, the victims were still deeply affected by what happened, talking to people, particularly fans, inappropriately & in sexually explicit ways is not just "something in his personal life", again, as I've said multiple times in this/these thread/replies, believe *all* victims, *always*
A lot of people thing the Hermits are taking things too far but Iskall resigned on his own and also Hermitcraft isn't like any old SMP, it's a renowned, exclusive, invite-only one known for their clean, family-friendly reputation, professionally, they have to nip this stuff in the bud, not let it fester and grow and cause some major issues down the line. They can't take risks and also, as viewers, we aren't privy to the bigger picture, just what we're given.
yeah, i agree. seems to be lots of talk of legality which i think is stupid. its a case of ethics rather than legality imo.
there is some not so family friendly stuff related to hermitcraft like bdubs whenever he puts the trucker hat on or scar in the "hotguy makes me question my lesbianism clip" or the infamous dont put that in my mouth clip and so on and so forth
@@Tired_Tortilla yeah, but Iskall did sexual harassment on his fans and employees soo..
@ all I was saying was that family friendly wasn’t really the right choice of words
they aren't family friendly and have had a lot of issues ua-cam.com/video/PdYsyt8bb24/v-deo.htmlsi=vWQYrDyjfN66Qe-C
Not even Hermitcraft is save from allegations and drama. I really hope this doesn't affect the amazing minecraft group negatively
Same I thought they’d be untouchable by this stuff. I’m sure they’ll be okay tho
I really Hope so. They have to be!!!
I mean I guess we should’ve expected this, also I thought there was some drama in the past with GenerikB
@@UltraDivine4 And IAmSp00n (Not Sp00nerism)
As long as there is mumbo jumbo, we will know HermitCraft is safe.
The fact that he willingly resigned makes me feel like it was possibly just a big reality check for him that he was doing something wrong. All of the hermits know that the brand image of hermitcraft is family friendly and it could’ve just been iskall resigning in his own accord for the sake of hermitcraft as a whole.
I mean, I feel like if you're owning this then you're going to have to actually make a formal statement about it and like... apologize and step away? This is a pretty classic panic response, not grownup professional behavior. Like, I actually do think that what Ned from Try Guys did was worse, but his early response was at least treating it like he understood how bad he'd messed up.
@@NassifehIn all fairness, plenty of political, cultural and business figures tend to resign without much explanation after they mess up or some past inappropriate behavior comes out.
In the end we don't have the full picture, so until Iskall steps forward or a full, objective statement describing what happened comes out, all we can do is wait.
@@Nassifeh tbf this is a thousand times better than what we've seen from other content creators and public figures with these accusations
Or he just gave up if this was nothing but mere petty betrayal and backstab. Resignation isn't admittance of guilt.
@@NassifehI’d honestly rather him get help for his behavior first then respond… instead of making a half witted apology, him getting help then responding once he has had that help would be the best option
I didnt think hermitcraft would get drama, and certainly not iskall, man i will miss him
happened before.
@@babybaby250 when and what?
@@GuusA cant remember specifics but its was years and years ago
@@GuusA u can find other yt vids on former hermicraft members some people did recap on past members
It's a real shame this all didn't play out in Bdubs courthouse. It would've been nice to see Iskall get off based on redstone objections.
The biggest thing that I see from this is that Iskall resigned from the group. He wasn't necessarily kicked out. Due to hermitcraft being a family-friendly brand, I think both parties wanted to distance themselves to uphold those values. While it does seem tamer I chalk it up to him being creepy and being an apparent cheater. I don't think it's criminal, but still unfortunate
It's kinda silly and stupid to call someone being flirted with, a victim.
@@MrSinister718 when someone flirts with you and you respond by changing the subject or denying the comments then that person continues they're being harassed. You can be friends and be harassed by someone. Especially because he was her boss.
I don't get the removal of iskall from everything hermitcraft related either. Going as far as changing thumbnails and titles for a friend's poor PRIVATE relationship skills. I don't know. Something else is going on here. They could have just left it at him leaving, but everything that followed just makes the whole situation seem very fishy
@calebpillai4774 I assume it's due to implications. It's a family first brand, and those who are serious about that want to protect that brand. Even if nothing else happens with Iskall, that stain is there. If I was a hermit I would do the same thing tbh. It's damage control imo. If this was a non g to pg server I think hermits wouldn't go that far
@@MrSinister718 Ever heard of sexual harassment?
a lot of people in this comment section need to realize that just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it's ok? Hermitcraft is a prestigious family-friendly server and a business first and foremost, the members have the right to reject someone from participating if they do something against the server's ethical code.
I second this massively. And not just in this instance particularly either
From my understanding iskall didn't do anything wrong.... sure it was weird that he didn't take the social cues. The video never said she asked him to stop.... and if he was in a relationship with someone else that's none of our or hermitcrafts business.
@@kyeldorries8283Unsolicited nudes? Employee power imbalance manipulation putting them in a position where they can't say stop for fear of their jobs?
@@kyeldorries8283don't just watched a video and think you have 100% of the information go read what the victims have shared
@@SomeUnknowGuy I read the statement from kass, the conversation she has wasn't that weird at all there was flirting from both sides and nothing she said indicated she wasn't OK with the conversation. She put love hearts in several of her replies to iskall. I will read the rest of the statements but unless there is evidence attached they don't mean much.
I thought it was strange that he just disappeared and I remember him saying things like he is going on vacation and he broke his hand or something, and while watching Mumbo and I realized that Mumbo and everyone else stopped doing Mission possible task. Thanks for explaining it.
He even said in the podcast he hasn’t quit??
no wonder i noticed no hermits wore mission possible's collectibles anymore
I don’t think the hermits knew for very long, personally. I think the Mission Possible stuff might’ve gotten old & they moved on. The prizes would’ve had to replace armor that were better on than off.
@@rynnmedia That would make sense except for two reasons, they don’t care about armor, and Mumbo said he was going to do it next episode a couple episodes ago before this stuff came up and he hasn’t mentioned it since, but you never know I might be wrong.
@@lukelexer8041 how many days before the news broke out was that episode he said that in? I must’ve forgotten that
If Grian erases him from thumbnails six years ago, and Mumbo removes Sahara merch, and the Iskall episode from Imp & Skizz gets deleted, im starting to think there is something more behind. This was mostly akward and wierd flirting, not in my opinion, a reason to erase everything connected to him.
Edit: After reading the replys, i now know that what he did was much worse than i initially thought, and i now see why they did what they did
Probably running around with their heads cut off trying not to get hermitcraft "canceled". they wont be canceled but with the world today, people are already treating this like he did something heinous. I've read all the statements and it sounds like a bunch of flirting and some advancements that were not mutual.
My best educated guess is that Iskall violated a code of coduct/ethics code. Hermitcraft is a business and all businesses have them, so it would stand to reason that this was violation since HC is meant to be family friendly.
it's interesting because mumbo still has sahara merch in promo stuff.... oops?
As it sounds like iskall has send unwanted nudes to some specific fans and moderators and has become explicit in the chat. It's not published to prevent children seeing or reading it. So even though it's a more mild form of sexual harassment, it's still sexual harassment. Some might also dislike that he did that while being in a relationship, so cheating on his partner, but we don't know if they have an open relationship or not, so it's hard to say if it was cheating. But he also said in the chat with his victims, that he's not in a relation ship. So he let those, who where interested, think they have a chance of coming together with him until he ghosted them. As it sounds like, it's mostly sexually harassing people via skype by sending explicit content and playing with their feelings.
@WarpedKarma6471 i didnt know that. When he said merch related to Iskall i thought it was sahara merch. Maybe some of the merch was printed with closer repsentation of the Sahara hermits, and he removed those
*"I didn't think this was a big deal"* Yall got used to worse crimes from worse creators. Cheating on a partner and flirting with subordinates is still inappropriate behavior
lmfao snowflakes think flirting is bad, cheating and flirting happen everyday, every social media has a block button, no one is ever talking to someone online forcibly
Soon we'll be cancelling people for looking at another person lol
@@wyomingpttmy brother in christ he tried to cheat on his significant other, you cant do that legal or not man, dont compare that shit to looking at someone
@@bouncyvenus If I heard it right he never met his significant other nor anybody else he was flirting with in person. I'm not even sure how clearly defined his relationship status was according to the people involved. So even if you call it cheating we should be aware that it is not on the same level of cheating as having sex outside of marriage.
It's bad but it's not irredeemable
iskall is the first hermit who i started watching. Through him, I started to know Mumbo, Grian, Scar, BdoubleO and many others.
Just sad to see him go.
Same here :(
Same here too
same, i found hermitcraft from him when he joined in s4 i think
I started with Mumbo and was introduced to the Sahara gang in season 6
Grian Mumbo Iskall kept me going in tough times, and it’s rough to have something like this happen.
@@sanga1380 I started when grain joined because I used to like all of his building videos
i respect the rest of the hermits so much. they handled this situation amazingly and maturely.
Yeah, more people shpuld be like the hermits in these types of situations
I dont want maturely. I want another episode of BDubs courtroom and the Objection heads or tails machine.
Well they are not kids. So its reasonable they handled it correctly
@@MrSinister718what he didn isn't a game.
they didnt
“please skip to the timestamp shown on screen”
*no timestamp*
No timestamps, no links, no nothing.
@@grammeland1 theres both timestamps and links as a pinned comment
@@Alex-mc7sxno actual chapters, AI voice, horrendous audio quality.
The constant zooming in and out was so annoying as well
Btw hermitfans don't push the hermits for answers, it's better to not ask because if they wanted us to know they would tell us,
it's gotta be exhausting being bombarded with speculation everytime so we should all be respectful to the hermits.
@@kingsockrat8543 second this. Thanks for saying it
@@SirBilby Pin it, that way more people see it
We have a right to be informed about things that may affect us, and those that have kids, have a right to know how their kids may have been affected. Leaving it as a secret just makes things worse, no one is safer.
yeah but "the hermits" arent our friends are they?
I would love to see this as the pinned comment, as I think this is one of the most important messages for fans to see at this point as they're hearing about this. It's too often on the internet that people are more than willing to release all the "juicy details" even when it's inappropriate or unnecessary to do so. Many situations, especially those that have already been substantially dealt with, have no reason to have everything released just for the sake of satiating others' curiosity.
Thats so disappointing....The guy seemed so chill
@@CEOofTired it is a shame.
He probably is a chill person, its unfortunate that he was also a predator.
@@LauFiuhow is he a predator, all he did was flirt with some women, and you make it sound like he’s a bad as a pedophile
@@daeldelus532 Haven’t you seen the video of him?
@@GilderoyLockhard You haven’t seen the video of him???
Despite how saddening and gross this situation is, I admire the response from the Hermitcraft gang. The way they listened to these allegations and confronted the situation really does show that they value not just having a family friendly server, but the virtue of their members. They have high standards for their members’ quality of character, which is probably the main reason their server is as respectable as it is. So proud of this gang and their responses to this messy situation
everyone should remember that "not shared publicly" is not the same as "non-existant". explicit photos were shared but victims did not want to share w the community (just showed it to hermits) due to the possinbiity of minors seeing them. we will not get "more information" "more receipts". all we need to know is that hermits (including iskall) felt that this behavior was unnacceptable for a hermitcraft member.
i think this right here is a great comment. Not about the photos part but the behavior for a hermitcraft member. What he did is not acceptable for a family friendly smp like that, but looking at the evidence it seems like its not that crazy what he actually did. This Kass person even said in their statement they loooked up to him as being a potentional partner, but when found out he was talking to someone else, they were a little annoyed. Also more context is that this happened during the covid lockdowns so i imagine he was lonely and pulling at strings. This kass person never once tried to stop any sort of advance from him and from what i see they not encouraged but continued to talk and make iskall prob feel like they had mutual feelings. I think everyone treating this like a case of a sexual assualt is full of bullshit not looking through all the evidence as of right now. Until more stuff comes out i dont think what he did was that far.
There has to be a crime for there to be a victim... even though iskall seemed to not take social cues from the information we have she never asked iskall to stop. Plus maybe he was hacked we just don't know.
@@kyeldorries8283 the thing is- we the audience won't get more information. so its better to not pretend as if what may have happened is nothing and take a look at the situation knowing that we are missing most of the details that make up the bigger picture. you kinda have to decide what this means or yourself, because we most probably wont get a definite answer (whether ull keep supporting him or not is your choice as we do not and will not know if things were actually very bad or not)
@@wa_akii6873 your right we don't have all the information and the information we do have tells us that a man in a relationship courted and flirted with several woman. Those woman also flirted and courted back. No one in their statement said i cannot show you the conversations but iskall took it too far and we asked him to stop but he didn't. They all said they felt betrayed when they found out he was in a relationship and speaking to other woman.
Sharing sex pics isn't something we did that much in my generation, but it's ridiculously common nowadays amongst teens. Making a big deal of it is light fighting the rain. There's no win in there.
My feelings on the matter as someone who only watches Iskall on other hermit povs: This seems more an issue of ethics, and boundaries. Not a legal issue or a safety issue.
A lot of people seem confused because when we talk about "allegations" and ousting a creator it's usually something much worse. It makes sense that the Hermits chose to distance, but it doesnt mean that Iskall cant have a platform or that anyone needs to stop watching him.
This is an issue between the affected parties. Fans just have to decide if the behavior crosses a line where they cant enjoy or respect Iskall anymore.
Without any further information, nobody should be speculating the worst or trying to lump it in with more explicit allegations and crimes. Nobody should be pushing the idea that he is a danger and needs to be deplatformed. If there is more to the story then that is between Iskall and the women involved and it's up to them to decide how it's handled. When people try to equate a less severe issue with a far worse one, that's when you get people downplaying in response or becoming apathetic, because they arent judging on the actual situation, but comparing it to the worst, making it seem trivial.
So if you (general, you) want people to take this seriously, dont lump it into "other minecraft allegations". Because now people will spend their time pointing out how it isnt so bad and not what happened, which does a disservice to anyone affected.
Take the info as it is and decide how it affects you as a viewer, just as you would if this happened to someone you know irl. Not everything has to end in fans with pitchforks.
Yeah, I too think this is more of w violation of a code of ethics the Hermits maintain more than anything.
if he sent inappropriate materials to someone that constitutes se_ual harassment, that goes a bit further than just being creepy and not respecting boundaries
@@Operngeist1What are you trying to say here? First off, this sexual harassment is literally being creepy and not respecting boundaries. Secondly, that doesnt change anything I said. Harassment isnt assault and we would need more information to determine the level of harassment and if it makes Iskall a danger to the public or just someone who did something dumb and creepy. We are not entitled to those details.
This is worded perfectly I think more people need to see this comment something that crosses an ethical boundary shouldn’t be the end of one’s career it should be up to each viewer to decide if they can still watch him and if they want to
fully agree
I think people overreact way too much nowdays, things aren't black and white, it's possible that the actions cross the line where you're comfortable with watching (or associating) with 'em, that's fine, but nothing criminal being done, just moral issues and a bit of harrasment, and then volountarily leaving, not trying to come up with excuses, does imho show that he does regret it, and isn't really a bad person, on the whole, much like cheating doesn't mean you're a bad person, just a bad partner (and in this case it's debateable whether that even occurred)...should he have acted this way? no, did he actually harm anyone? no, all he did was make adult people uncomfortable in private conversations, and not act in line with the expectations of someone he hadn't ever met physically, but had had a more consensual relationship with...I've not dug through the available info, and correlated it, but there's also the question of how do you know all the allegations are true in the first place, that it was actually him, and not a hacker (as the excuse was)? jumping to conclusions without hearing out the other side is such a problem, nowdays, too...
I really appreciate how this information was presented: calm, non-biased, and with plenty of content warnings.
I can confirm I just went to the hermitcraft website and iskall and stress are not in the members lineup. Which is unfortunate as we all waited all summer and part of fall for stress to come back. Her last video on the server was 3 weeks ago and when she returned to the server after her break she explained. Now we know why she’s gone again.
Edit: Stress has eliminated any means for people to comment on her videos. I have a feeling when HC11 comes around next year.. she won’t be petitioning for a return. RIP to our favorite spunky Brits adorable content. I’ll be sad not hearing the laugh and shenanigans she gets into with iskall.
@@cassie05 it is sad. One does wonder why she left, but I’m sure she had good reasons, and they’re potentially not ours to know
@ she and iskall did everything together. I’m sure because they were so close it played a part. I believe he helped get her on the server in the first place.
@@cassie05 yeah feels like it
@@cassie05are you the Cassie mentioned in the video? Just curious.
Wow, this is the first I've heard of this. I thought he had just 'left' temporarily, like he did in season 9 too, to give him time to concentrate on VaultHunters. The way Etho and others discussed him permits recently was very much like they expected him to be returning. No hint of allegations or drama.
I ENTIRELY FORGOT HE HAS PERMITS, I Wonder How That Will Play Out Actually
@@zealouszombie I mean, if he's not on the server, he's not using them, and they can be redistributed. Those were the rules. Seems simple to me. (And X has access to all the data files, so if the permits are in the e-chest or something, he can pull them out.)
@@zealouszombie Etho made Shady-E’s
@@smokeyangelav Mmmm I See
That's so sad about iskall and stress. They will be missed. I will mostly miss stress her videos were so fun to watch and she was so funny to watch. Her laugh was contagious. I wish the both of them the best. Maybe Stress will change her mind and will return back to hermitcraft. Until than god be with her and her family and Iskall. Thanks for sharing all your amazing talented builds you shared in minecraft.
I find this both a bit surprising and not at the same time. I wrongfully assumed Iskall was busy with vault hunters, like many other commenters here, until this video came up in my recommended.
At the same time, if you watched Iskall's second channel when he's setting up a prank for Joel, or talking about his family when building the guardian farm, you would know he doesn't have the same vibes as he did in earlier seasons. Like Iskall himself stated, he wanted to be a bit more personal (which is why hermitcraft moved to 2nd channel to begin with) and that truly showed. For myself I enjoyed this more relaxed Iskall, but he was also less professional which is not suitable for hermitcraft brand.
Hermitcraft is a brand where "every hermit is a talented minecrafter or entertainer who aim to set a good example for a family friendly audience".
I imagine if you gave Iskall the role of managing the brand given that promise, he would see himself not fitting in too well based on that second part.
Sure, Grian might start wars on the server, but the moment the community gets too heated he tells them that's not ok. Iskall on the other hand is ranting about personal stories, which is nothing wrong by itself, but doesn't fit the HC brand either. I wouldn't be surprised if Iskall realized this himself, especially after the behaviour of harassments, and withdrew from the HC brand. Doesn't matter if the allegations are true or not, business wise this is the correct form of actions.
I'm actually happy Hermitcraft being transparent about the issue and communicate what's going on, even if they can't share any details. It's unfortunate considering how good of an entertainer Iskall is, I've probably laughed the most whenever Iskall was on screen, but actions has consequences and it is what it is. I'm also happy for the moderators who reported on his behaviour, especially as this seemed to be early in the stage and didn't blow up to something big. Iskall needed a reality check, which this hopefully brought him, and nobody is too angry about it.
Good video. While I don't really like the "dramatized" transitions with black background and red text, it is UA-cam and it should be entertaining.
The information gathered was good and presented nicely, I enjoyed the tweets from Mumbo and False clarifying the situation.
@@shirazoul hey, tysm for the feedback and taking the time to write. Guess I like it a bit dramatic!
It's sad but Iskall changed by the time he stopped uploading in Season 7.
When he came back the way he spoke and even the way he was laughing was different;
to me, at least, Season 8 and 9 sound as if he was forcing himself to laugh a lot of the time instead of laughing naturally as he did before, and it looks like he continued to deteriorate until it got to this point.
@@SirBilby It's a bit at odds with the goal of just presenting facts neutrally stated in the video, and felt odd and off with the tone. Overall good video though, just sharing that i have the same feedback as the other commenter :D
Tbh... I wasn't surprised, loke maybe surprised that something happened in HC but not too surprised it's iskall. Don't get me wrong tho, I don't hate the guy I just stopped watching him, concluding his vids aint for me.
Started watching him on Sahara thing but after a while I felt something off about his mannerism... gut feels or intuition, like he's the type of guy that would attract drama, like as you mentioned he's a bit ranty... Not sure how to explain but I just felt some wrong flags on him... w/c is why I dropped him off my watchlist completely.
Same here, I too believed it was just his work with vault hunters that kept him from hermitcraft.
And while it may have affected it. VH clearly wasn’t the only thing going on.
It all seemed to date back to after season 7 when Iskall made the Omega Tree.
I loved that tree and it was probably his last time making something huge on the server. After that he kinda just didn’t feel the same.
I’m sorta glad he got to play decked out 2.
I had noticed that Iskall was inactive for a while now, but I thought that had to do with him playing in VHsmp (which I don't watch). I didn't know about all this and I'm glad that the victims have spoken out!
It's certainly very sad and disappointing for me to hear these allegations, because I've been a fan of Iskall for years, but now that he is out of the picture, I hope that the rest of the Hermits can continue without the group's reputation being tarnished, because as I see it they didn't know anything before the allegations were made and they responded appropriately. So, I hope this amazing group can continue delivering to us super entertaining content, without any more allegations about anything or drama!
Iskall was inactive because of VH he was posting videos on his second chanal daily up until exactly a day before this happened.
Yes I completely agree and am in the same boat! 😢 I don’t watch VH but did watch his Hermitcraft I’m really sad about this but I’m glad the victims came out and said something!
I wonder what will happen to their builds on Hermitcraft?
@@Mayasoflya if it’s serious(like a lot more than we know) they might tare his down but if its what was in the video they will probably just leave it (but biased on the thumbnails, podcast, and merch they will probably tear it down) I’m also kinda curious on how they are gonna do the permits(does the permit office just reclaim them or?)
@ It definitely breaks the immersion aspect of hermitcraft. 😒This irl stuff will be challenging for hermits to navigate. Even addressing the permit now will beg for explanation… oof, what a mess.
I really hate how the day before this happened I thought “man I hope we see Iskall come back and do some funny stuff soon” and then boom, gone.
2 things to note.
1 Grian has not taken Iskall out of any thumbnails currently
2 Iskall is still posting vault hunters on his 2nd channel but has not responded to anything yet.
i don’t see how not taking him out of thumbnails means anything tbh even if there’s allegations he can’t just cut iskall out of the videos since for some, that’s 50% or more of the video so taking him out of thumbnails doesn’t really change anything since atp ur just hiding that he was in the videos
Iskall hasn't posted anything since the drama started. As well he was removed from some of Grians titles (like the golfing episode in season 6).
He was removed from that one but I can’t find any others. I believe he was only removed from the title of videos and not the thumbnails as there are plenty of video such as Saharas grand opening, some of the dragon bros videos as well as the video where Iskall and Grian make a fake Mumbo bc he didn’t show up to the meeting. I think the only episode that was changed was the golf one because it was the only one to have iskall85s name in the title.
Edit he was removed from a few others all in season 6
He was removed from episode 53 where the original title was “iskall architect lol” but was changed to “the invetation”
He was also removed from episode 60. The original title was “don’t tell Iskall” and now it is “don’t tell anyone”
Finally that I kind find he was removed from 93 where the original title was “I am sorry Iskall” but was changed to “dragon bros” which is the same name as another season 6 episode
@@owengifkins995speaking of dragon Bros, I wonder if Ely has responded in any way.
Edit: Ely did indeed respond. Except for the thumbnail of RmR2, there's no videos of iskall's song remixes or mentions in titles or thumbnails
Ok so compared to other celebrities and what they did, he seems to be on the more (tame?) side of the spectrum. What he did is bad and he isn’t an angel ig, but it could be a lot worse. All he seems to be is an awkwardly online flirt and a cheater, still bad behavior but isn’t close to the likes of Wilbur or something.
I mean this with no I’ll intent but I feel like it is important not to compare what he has done to others. what wilbur did was worse than what iskall did but iskall still hurt people with what he did. while yes, he could have done worse that doesn’t excuse what he has done and it’s important to remember that 🫶
it’s also important to note that we don’t have all of the information nor do we really know the situation.
Yeah, still feel really bad for those affected but thankfully it's nothing too crazy
Thats how it starts. They test the waters to see what they can get away with.
Yeah, but hermitcraft has always been highly regarded. They want to keep their reputation as high as possible due to the mainly child audience
Did the person Iskall was harassing say that they wanted Iskall to stop? It's still bad even if they didn't, but Iskall didn't legally do anything wrong from what I can tell.
Inappropriate messages between adults and failed attempts at flirting are one thing, but I don't see how those alone could get Grien and Mumbo to remove all mention of him going back 6 years. Especially since they are/were all pretty close friends.
Either something else happened that we don't know about, or it's just an issue with ethics and people not clearly setting personal boundaries from the get-go.
It's more that he kept pushing it, and was cheating on his partner in the process, not to mention sending explicit material to his fans and moderators. One moderator was clearly uncomfortable and Iskall even noticed he was changing the subject repeatedly, but kept the behavior going until it was clear it wasn't working, and went back to his commited partner. It's not illegal, it's no crime, but it's gross and really paints Iskall as a jerk. Plus, in a formal workplace with a good HR department, what Iskall did to his moderator, technically his employee, would have been frowned upon and might have gotten him into trouble. I think, if it were just one of these things (not including the explicit material, which is a step too far in my opinion unless everyone involved was okay with it), or if everyone was comfortable and consenting of the situation, it'd probably could have been explained as a misunderstanding or miscommunication, may have not resulted in him leaving the group. But I think its the combination of all these factors that ultimately led to this decision.
Also he wasn't kicked out, he chose to leave. Grian and Mumbo allegedly erasing mention of him (apparently the way it was reported in the video isnt completely accurate), really has little to do with what happened and it's just needlessly fueling speculation and drawing needless scrutiny on Grian and Mumbo. What Iskall did was over the line, that much is clear even without all the details. Idle speculation beyond what we know is kind of pointless, I think. The Hermits and those affected have already said their piece and have drawn boundaries.
@PatManDX Oh yeah, I completely understand that what Iskall did was over the line and made a lot of people uncomfortable and upset with him.
At first it may have been a case of people not setting clear boundaries from the get-go, which was most likely followed by a lot of downplay and avoiding the subject, as suggested by that moderators statement.
The cheating and persistence of Iskall, however, is definitely a major screw up by him. That is not okay in any way.
“Just an issue with ethics”
Yes those pesky ethics
i believe its most likely to do with their reputation and preservation of the hermitcraft group, drama can be really bad for groups like hermit craft that pride themselves on more family friendly values. that's probably why they were so thorough with cutting iskall out of the brand.
They memory holed him? Ok officially fuck those two. Mr I need vacations from playing videogames and Mr I need to travel to get inspirations for my builds in a videogame.
This is really informative, I was told something happened by the owner of our Minecraft server and we were all concerned but because I don’t use much social media I couldn’t find much
@@OkayKoda_off thanks for the kind words! That’s exactly what I was going for. Glad I could help and be informative!
@@SirBilbyyes thank you sooo much I draw fanart and was going to draw iskal next (I’m not on a lot of drama stuff and didn’t know) but I’m so glad I saw a comment on it then this was very informative without trying to defend one side more than the other (used to watch Wilbur saw way to many explanations trying to defend him😢)
It's nice to see a video addressing drama that isn't needlessly drawn out.
Joel’s season 10 episode 15 takes on a whole new tone with this context.
I had the same thought. 🙈
thinking of this made me extremely uncomfortable for joel and in the moment i thought it was really weird, can’t imagine how he feels about any encounters he had with him now.
What do u mean
@@w1ld322 In that episode, Iskall constantly flirts with him. It’s played off as a joke then, but becomes a lot more serious when you take the sexual harrassment allegations into account.
that scene is not going to be looked at the same way for sure
watching this wearing my old sahara hoodie, you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain...
Really? A villain? 😂
@@FireJach its a quote homie
My personal take at the moment is that this is still a very private matter, and honestly, not one that the public needs to know about. All we need to know is that Iskall made some mistakes, and he decided to leave the hermitcraft server. Maybe there is some fallout between him and the other members, but we can't say that for certain. Clearly, there is still some sense of care as Mumbo and others advocated that there were no minors involved.
And I want everyone to remember that you don't have to feel icky or ashamed that you enjoyed his content. He's a charismatic and hilarious guy who makes good videos.
I can't say I quite understand why this was a large enough issue to completely wipe Iskall from Hermitcraft, thumbnails and merch. It seems that, at most, he was an overbearingly awkward flirt and a cheater, so I can understand him leaving the family-friendly server. Wiping him from everything so fast and so thoroughly is odd, though, makes me think that there's more there to it if it's not just an overreaction
Yeh he's a player and a cheat. How they fell for that sweat is puzzling
hmm, yes, it does feel like there might be something more to it. perhaps they're choosing to keep it quiet until they a) know for sure or b) just don't want to say some things because of the family-friendly aspect
Flirting is illegal now....
There's plenty of UA-camrs out there way more popular than iskall that have been guilty of similar and far worse accusations and nobody has shadow banned them or scrubbed them from anything.
Hermitcraft is meant to be family-friendly. A lot of kids watch HC. Any type of sexual misconduct should be dealt with harshly in such an atmosphere.
i had no idea about any of this. Starting this season I decided to watch (or try to watch) every member's POV and even though I watched Iskall from Mumbo's POV way back in season 7, I got reminded just how funny and hilarious he is from his S10 videos (even though sometimes it was awkward). So when he stopped making Hermitcraft videos or even showing up on other people's episodes, I thought he got burnt out like he does usually apparently. Then I found out about vaulthunters, no idea what that is so I thought he got busy with that server.
It doesn't make much sense why every trace of his existence should be wiped at most for being really awkward and flirting which makes me wonder how bad those conversations were. The cheating part IS inexcusable imo. BUT the fact that every hermit did take the measures they took suggests some extra drama going on, it usually does. As for Stress I assume she wanted to support his friend
I'm a new fan who didn't really watch Iskall, but when Mumbo did a lot with Iskall earlier this season, I thought Iskall was really funny. It's so sad that we can't even have a family-friendly drama-free server.
false has confirmed stress leaving was not related to the iskall situation
@@bcmoore671 don't be silly of course it's related. False said Stress left willingly, she didn't say it wasn't related
@@stupidspinach421 I'm sorry, thats just how I read it, I guess I just misunderstood what she was saying. but, how can you be so sure that it *was* related? I don't think any of the hermits have said that her leaving was because of Iskall.
@@bcmoore671 so her best friend in the server and maybe in real life leaves the server. At the same time she leaves as well for unknown reason. And you don't think that convenient or related?
For anyone wondering, community is 90% sure stress left due to her having like an actual functioning and good family
MAN BAD!
stress leaving wasn't really a surprise, she's always put her family first.
its nice to have this info together
i wonder why theres been so much scrubbing going on?
So glad to hear it! That was exactly my aim making this video. Yeah it’s weird how people are disassociating with him. Who knows - it’s not our place to speculate. I’m sure they’ll explain more. But until then I’m glad I can help spread information!!
@SirBilby the people watching this video are thankful for you having made it :D
@@lts_avery tysm rlly appreciate it
@SirBilby ofc :))
isnt it obvious why? this is their job and its important that they maintain their good reputation in order to keep doing that job, being associated with someone with bad reputation damages that. its also just normal to not want to be associated with someone that has done something ethically wrong. this was likely both a business decision and a moral one. its not like every single video with him is being deleted either, they're just removing any direct mentions of his name from episode titles in order to publicly distance themselves from him and show solidarity with the victims
Do you all just gloss over the fact that he sent explicit photos to the victims? There’s so many comments saying “what he did wasn’t that bad, not compared to…” it is not a comparison! You don’t erase one victims pain because there are people that go through worse.
He also approached all these victims as either their boss or someone they look up to which is a gross power dynamic.
The hermits thought it serious enough to confront him about it. Few of them have even said it’s much worse than what’s been shown to the public. This weird defence of brushing it off as awkward flirting is gross. You don’t flirt with someone if they don’t flirt back. You don’t continuously harass them if they show no interest.
FRFR
Yes!! I think so much of this is normalized now days and people think it’s okay. It’s not. It’s just not. That isn’t to say people can’t grow. He took a step back from hermit craft that’s good. We should be looking out for people and their boundaries. We shouldn’t flirt continuously if they don’t show they want too. And don’t reciprocate. Also how he did it. Guilting people for not responding and reciprocating, shutting it down and changing the subject, is gross. Withholding interaction if they don’t reciprocate. It’s all just weird.
None of which were provided, regardless of reason, making them useless as an argument.
They may as well not exist
looking through the comments, it's kinda crazy how people harrassing adults is seen as a "nothingburger" because of how normalized harassing minors has gotten in the mcyt community. guys, just bc its not criminal doesn't mean its not unethical. obviously harassing minors is worse, but that doesnt mean harassing adults is okay ??? shitty behavior is still shitty behavior even when its not illegal lol
This is disturbing how any interaction between a man and a woman becomes "harrassment" when woman complains.
@@Straga_Severa sending inappropriate photos is not an interaction and it is indeed sexual harassment, especially when someone is your boss.
@@smokeyangelav Sending photos in the middle of consensual flirty conversation that another person actively engages with is not harassment. It might be misreading a room, in which case it's another person's job to establish boundaries, but it's not harassment.
@@Straga_Severa you do not send explicit photos to anyone without asking first period. If you did that in person where I live, it could get you in the sex offender list. Just peeing on the side of the road can. You can not expose yourself.
You know what's crazier?? Believing everything. Accusations have been weaponized, therefore scrutiny is required.
6:47 out of topic for a second but I am glad that they still kept TFC as a ghost in the banner
@@theGIR_entertainment yeah I was thinking that when I made the vid.
@@theGIR_entertainment TFC actually went through his own drama. The Hermits had his back and worked through that. Had it only been “girl problems” with Iskall, they would have done the same. While Iskall resigned, all the other actions by Hermits and some of the statements from those on VH make it clear it was more serious. It truly sucks but he made some poor decisions and hurt many.
Okay, I'm going to address some things in this comment that I feel are important for people to know.
First of all, many people have already said that part or all of the reason why Iskall's name is being erased from hermitcraft is because of hermitcraft's family friendly brand, however hermitcraft is even more than this. Much of hermitcraft's reputation relies on not just family friendliness but also on a lack of drama and controversy, and even a minor controversy that for most creators could be a bit damaging but otherwise forgotten about eventually could completely destroy hermitcraft's branding and reputation, and Iskall and the other hermits likely know this, which could be the reason why Iskall left so suddenly and the unexplained removal of his presence from earlier hermitcraft content.
Secondly, there is a possibility that, if true, we will likely never know if it is, and that is that Iskall could have requested his removal from hermitcraft content for privacy reasons or for the protection of him and the other hermits or whatever.
Third, it is very possible that there is something bigger, potentially more serious, that has not been publicly revealed by anyone involved. There's not much I can really say on this, but it is very much possible.
Fourth, I would like to address that the term "allegations" has become a very loaded term recently, and it is important to remember that an allegation is, by definition, not something that has been definitively proven to be true. If it has been definitively proven to be true, it is no longer an allegation, an allegation is NOT an objective fact OR something completely impossible, until proven otherwise it is just a possibility. Almost everything involved here is a POSSIBILITY, the only things we know FOR SURE (as in what we can blatantly see with our own eyes and can't really challenge or disprove), is that Iskall and Stress have left and that there have been allegations of harrassment against Iskall and the removal of Iskall from some previous hermitcraft content. Pretty much everything I have said so far are also just possibilities until definitively proven otherwise. An allegation also does not have to be something serious that requires deplatforming or arrest or anything, and these allegations should not be treated like or compared to more serious allegations that other minecraft youtubers have faced.
Fifth, I would like to say that there is, so far as of the time of writing this comment, nothing that shows that there are any legal issues, mainly just moral/ethical issues and potentially reputation issues. I would also like to point out that anything said within the hermitcraft server itself within a video is very rarely going to be connected to real life, so anything about anyone saying they have a problem with Iskall or something within the server prior to his resignation is just connected to the hermits' characters, not real life. Social media posts and other stuff outside of the server itself posted by the hermits or other involved people do not necessarily follow this "rule". (I say "rule" in quotes cause it's not really a rule, but you know what i mean.)
Yeah ok im not reading all of that at 7 am
Your five points make sense. When it comes to point 1 I would like to mention that if they don't make a public statement relatively soon, they will create the greater controversy than if they kept him on while being open about it.
Vagueness and untransparency is the main fuel of controversy. Of course if there is some bigger ethical/legal thing happening then that could be an issue too, but even then they should be as transparent as possible to reduce controversy as much as possible.
@@dewaldsteyn1306 No one cares. Why bother commenting
This makes me think less of the Hermitcraft brand. Why does what the Eceleb do in his private life affect his professional life?
@@Moe_Posting_Chad they have young community members and it was happening in the community.
As far as I know in this point of time the Hermitcraft crew act cautious and some fans overblow it.
6:36 is easily disproven by actually going to Grain’s channel, he is very much still in many of season 6’s thumbnails
The creator confirmed on another chain thagvit was thw titles not the thumbnails and that he was misinformed
This is so heartbreaking. I liked Iskall. Didn't watch his videos, but adored the dynamic between him, Grian and Mumbo. My dear Architechs. Not even Hermitcraft is safe from the "dirty sock drawers" stuff anymore...
Hermitcraft is what it is for good reason. They are strict, if a person wanted to get in, they would have to be invited by everyone on the server. They are strictly family friendly and are some of the oldest and most well known members of the larger community (Philza once said that he doesn’t think he could get in, just because he swears too much for the servers family friendly atmosphere). You can imagine that if a person is being a creep then it may put the others on the server off, but what’s important is that he left on his own, its normal to remove a member that left from the title card. For Mumbo and Grian there may be something personal about it, which would be why they reacted so strongly (strongly isn’t the right word), in which case we have no way of knowing(and no right to know) why they reacted the way they did, or it could just be that those two are some of the more popular members with an image to uphold, both understandable in my eye. For Grian it may be him being super family friendly as that is what he strives for and it could be to avoid drama that comes with this community. All reasoning I think is reasonable, the oldest server in the community (I believe, I’ll be surprised if it isn’t), it stands for the vision that was built when the server was built, and the idea that this community is in large part underaged.
Though I am sad that Hermitcraft isn't spared from drama and controversy, I do find comfort that it wasn't blown out of proportion, and it was resolved peacefully and (relatively) quietly
I honestly feel like I'm missing something. Everyone is acting like this is some super serious offense, but it sounds like the dude just hit on women while he had a girlfriend. That obviously makes him a jerk to his girlfriend, but why are the other women being called "victims"?
I'm not a smart man. Someone help me out here.
No, you're right. This is a total nothing-burger.
Cause anime women are weird as hell
cause he sexually harassed people, manipulated several of them and abused his power.
@@Alex-mc7sx "he sexually harassed people" - Can you point me to where this happened? All the texts I saw posted were little more than really bad flirtation. Dude definitely has no game, but is that really sexual harassment? Perhaps there's more info on this that I just haven't seen? Admittedly, I'm not fully up to speed on all this.
"manipulated several of them" - Yeah, I can agree with that.
"and abused his power" - OK here's where you lose me again. What "power" does this guy have? Where these paid employees of his? Or just volunteer moderators? It does make a difference.
Not trying to be argumentative here. Just trying to learn more about the situation because "sexual harassment" is a very strong accusation.
This is honestly one of the more tame minecraft youtuber dramas out there. All parties handled it respectfully, the perpetrator took logical actions and didnt deny or gaslight, and the bystanders simply cleaned up the remaining mess. All in all, Hermitcraft really handled this well.
Assuming everything stated is true - I don't endorse what Iskall allegedly did as moral.
Assuming everything stated is true - I don't endorse what Iskall allegedly did as cool.
However, I also don't see rejecting flirtations and promises as equal to victimhood, either.
I'm troubled by the lack of clear evidence against Iskall, but I'm willing to weigh this assuming it's true.
I'm also troubled by the amount of ad hominem attacks being thrown at everyone and anyone who doesn't share in thinking this amounts to victimhood or SA.
By this standard, if a girl flirts with me and I reject her advances (and maybe she isn't single), I'm a "victim". I surely don't think so. I just think rejecting her makes me moderately intelligent.
Circling back, now - I might see victimhood if there was evidence to sustain that. Even if I accept all that is alleged, I'm not seeing victimhood yet.
I wonder what harsh name-calling is about to be levied against me for thinking so.
Id believe multiple old friends dropping him and several screenshots are proof but ok
@@Alex-mc7sx I would believe the screenshots if the screenshots actually showed anything that amounted to victimhood but they don't. Much ado about nothing. Like I said in the beginning, I'm assessing this from the position that everything they said was true in the first place. Maybe you missed that.
This was the last person id expect allegation to pop up against. This is really sad
I didnt even know about this until i got recommended a video about a lawryer explaining iskall regination. eithier im out of the loop or they kept this hush hush
@@CasmsVR yeah I only heard from a friend. Pretty much nothing on yt about it
@@SirBilby you should look into grian and iskall's history
I have noticed grian and iskall always had a certain awkwardness to them like they didnt get along. After Hermitcraft 7, you barely can see iskall or grian interacted with each other in season 8 or 9. Grian also didnt invite iskall to join his life series even though they had history and got along with each other during season 6 and 7.
Only did I see both grian and iskall interact (awkwardly) in Hermitcraft 10 since iskall had a project where he needed every hermit to participate in placing a block.
So if grian didn't get along with iskall then there were already signs or red flags behind the scene even before this controversy happened.
@ that’s really interesting you say that. I hadn’t spotted that. Thanks for the info! Might do a spot of research into that one!!
@@CasmsVR I remember noticing that when season 7 came around
@@CasmsVR youre making things up about people you dont know
to say he was a beloved member of the Minecraft community would be an understatement. this is really sad to see and i hope everyone involved is now ok and happy.
People don't know how power dynamics work. You cannot make se@$al advances to a person who does labor for you.
Thank you omfg someone said it
@@Shirokroete His career wasn’t ended, he chose to resign from Hermitcraft after the other members confronted him about it (and let’s be real, he’s barely been active on the server for the past few years anyway, this was probably just the straw to break the camel’s back). nothing stopping him from continuing his channel with other stuff
I mean a mod is not exactly labor... but regardless uh you certainly can. i imagine if she said "Nah bro I'm not really into you like that..." i would think both parties would have moved on with their lives.
Yes you can. There's no law against it. These modern attitude towards relationships are part of why the birthrate has plummeted.
@@wyomingptt Labor in this context means work, and if you've ever moderated you'll know it can be a lot of work. And it doesn't matter at all if the work is voluntary or paid.
Kind of sad to see, I was picking up on some red flags from him lately and I was hoping it didn't mean anything. I guess online fame and working alone from home isn't a good combination, I can imagine the loneliness and a lack of real social skills leading to something like this. Not that that justifies anything, but I hope he can be better
Im really happy for the info, i was sorta in the dark, nice to see all available info be collected into one spot, thanks
@@heroar5471 you’re welcome! Really glad to hear that and that this helped as it was my primary aim!
This is a very well-madw video. Especially from a subscriber with only 1k subs. Hope you make it, man!
@@ArrowMaster_ tysm! Only just hit 1k today. But this video kinda blew up ig!
@@SirBilby you deserve it bro🔥keep it up
@ hey thanks man will do!
2:21 theres no timestamp
or links
Theres time stamps in the description! :)
@@KrowsFantasy oh cool, but shouldn't have that been specified it would have been in the description at least
@@ARandomHedgehog yeah. It probably would've been easier of it was specificed where they were. I found them after the video while just being nosy.
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I’m not gonna lie, I legitimately cried when I first heard the news. I’ve grown up with Hermitcraft from 2018 (very early s6) to this day, and as the years went on and I became more aware that the world isn’t all sunshine and rainbows, I thought Hermitcraft was going to be the one place free of this kind of drama, since it is a family friendly server, and everyone both on the server and in the fandom are absolute angels to each other. And I’m a Grian girlie, so ArchiTechs and Sahara were life back then, but of course, nothing in life ever quite goes the way you want it to, does it?
I get 12 year olds are overdramatic but I mean saying HermitCraft is now somehow tainted is a bit overreactive imo. Iskall has barely even been on the server for the last two seasons. Besides if you look at a list of former HC members, there's been others who've had some sort of controversy. So its not the first time.
Hermitcraft handled the situation very well, if it helps
wow... this hurts a lot but im glad hermits were able to take care of this. I'm glad though people were about to speak up!
People keep saying it's because Hermitcraft is "family friendly." No this is an ethical (and yes, also legal) issue. A person in a position of power "flirting" with employees (even if he was single) is not okay unless that person in power is DAMN sure that employee is ok with it. Companies have contracts for people to sign when having office relationships over different levels JUST FOR THIS REASON! They would have a legal case to press charges for harassment, because that position of power allows them to be potentially abusive or pressure a person into complying/enduring, but that legal action is not happening. The Hermits simply asked for clarifications and Iskall resigned. If you have a problem with that... you'd be fine with your strange boss making advances on you or one of your loved ones being stuck in that situation I guess? Seems sad.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the incredibly brave survivors of Iskall's flirting!
This is so sad,I wish everyone the best, I hope iskall is okay, I hope stress is okay and I hope the rest of the hermits are okay
Remember everyone we don't know what's going on in the hermits personal life, so do NOT question them about this, and let them handle this.
A lesson I learned a long time ago is you may think you know a person but you do not truly know who they really are on the inside. I hate that this happened to the victims but at the same time I'm glad they found the courage and strength to step forward and bring this situation to light. I'm not sure what will happen going forward but I think we can all agree that Iskall deserves diorite for Christmas
So courageous. So brave. I sincerly hope they can somehow rebuild their lives and get themselves to a better place. I would like to say to them, the worst is over and we are here to help them get the justice they deserve!
This honestly breaks my heart. I honestly never thought Iskall would do something like this, but after reading the replies and links in the description, it speaks for itself. I know my naivety to want to believe the best in people will catch up to me like this, but Iskall? I’d never of guessed. Why would he’d have done something so stupid and use his platform (and abuse it) to try to forcibly flirt with women who clearly weren’t always interested? 😢
(This is from the perspective of a woman who has felt that kind of pressure from a man. It isn’t easy to stand up for yourself nor fun)
This is an AI channel, I felt like smth was weird, but the voice has some weird moment of pronouncing things wrong and also timing
I felt the same thing
"Pronouncing things wrong" Can you give specific examples? Are you aware that accents exist? I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, and "timing" may just be from slightly clunky editing. Also an AI channel wouldn't reply to comments lmao
@@jammyjimmy666 The owner is probably lying just using an AI to create the voice so their own voice isn't on the internet and it sounds like an English accent to me tbh
there's the chance they just didn't want to use their own voice
@@jammyjimmy666 you can hear audio clipping, along with cadences and audio quirks that only appear within ai voices. it's less "specific examples" and more experience with ai voices, which this video seems to mirror.
My Two Cents: He was asked about it and Chose to resign, he wasn't kicked or banned, he decided to leave. Besides that, it just seems like a cheating scandal, he'll be fine - People will most likely forget abt it since so far, no minors are involved. (Because, sadly that's how internet drama works)
Why is that a bad thing?
he made several people uncomfortable by essentially using his status??? how is that 'just a cheating' thing??
Am I supposed to be morally invested in the private life of a man that is a stranger to me, and I am supposed to dump that emotional investment because some other literal stranger said so? And you a third stranger are morally lecturing me and the rest of the audience?
Why does it feel like I am one of the only adults in the room?
@@Moe_Posting_Chad buddy, it's a youtube comments section. no one is lecturing anyone
@@captainalieth You are a midwit and your ideas are not worth considering.
In the documents shared, there were only accusations and recapping what was said. "Paraphrasing ". I have yet to see proof of wrong doing. If you are asking people to cancel someone, we deserve more than "trust me, he is bad".
Im not defending iskall. If he did something wrong. I would just like the facts/proof before i kick someone to the curb.
@@farmerchunk2661 I hear this - it can be difficult when there is a lack somewhat of such evidence. However, all the parties involved have confirmed that they do exist, and the hermits have seen them. They’ve just withheld them as it is a family friendly community. It’s possible more info will be released soon. But it’s super important that we don’t disbelieve the victims either - this happens all too often! We just have to wait and see (hence this video does not share my personal opinion!)
There is proof. The chat logs exist. Should look into what authority bias is. It also applies to perceived celebrities.
@@SirBilby id rather the hermits remain professional rather than jumping onto the drama bandwagon.
From what the hermit craft account said, they obviously did some of their own investigations. I trust they found a solid amount of evidence to justify the response. Up and leaving when questioned isn’t exactly the response of an innocent man.
When did anyone ask you to cancel him?
Bro iskall.... I used to love this guy's video and i thought he was just on another project and busy with vault hunter.
Its still very unclear if iskall SA a person or did that person gave the consent
for now im glad its not a minor
Same! Mostly seems to be messages rn but we will see
dude, there is still a pretty big step between harassment and SA, lets not blow things out of proportion.
@@simpson6700 very true.
Bro chill 😂, he was flirting online… with an adult.. did nothing wrong, you can’t give consent for a text message 😅. Sure the messages were weird, but he probably just doesn’t know how to talk to women 😂.
@@Luke_Skvwalkerin what world is sending someone unwanted nudes flirting? That’s something you do with a committed partner not some person you’re remotely interested in
Thank you for this video. I had no idea about this. I’m a big fan of hermitcraft but don’t really keep up with the things that go on outside the server.
Now knowing what’s happened, from your video and some cursory research elsewhere, I’m proud of the Hermits for how they have handled the situation, and proud of those affected by Iskall’s behaviour. As someone who has been in a situation similar to what they went through, I know how hard it is to speak about it, whether through shame, guilt, or disbelief.
To anyone who is or has been in such a situation, may the universe guide to find the strength to overcome. Remember you are loved.
@@Labyrinth_Props you’re welcome! Glad it helped. Thanks so much for the comment. What you say is absolutely true and a very important message to get across!
Honestly as much as the hermits say that Stress was not involved, it still seems a bit strange that she also chose to leave at that time, knowing that she and Iskall were kinda close to my knowledge, or at least the collaborated a lot. Idk how she would be involved but still very strange.
you know what guys at least it's not minors. this is progress
the fact that this is considered a positive is just sad.
it's not a positive it's just less of a negative
I had no idea this had happened. Two of my favourite Hermits no longer on the server, this hits hard. I feel bad for Stress, cause it's obviously effected her and saw it as a reason to leave after being so patchy at certain points throughout the year. I hope she'll be okay. 😢
I know some are saying that Mumbo overreacted by taking down the Sahara merch, etc, but I personally respect his decision.
That being said, I'm glad I got my Sahara merch when I could, and I'm really sorry for those who weren't able to. Grian is the one who got me into hermitcraft, and Sahara will always be one of my favorite storylines from any of the seasons, alongside the 1.14 village race to build height between Grian, Mumbo, and Iskall. It may be a bit sour now, but the memory of watching it for the first time will always stick around.
Random thought - removing the Iskall-related merch could be Rights/Profit-sharing related. Anything sold by Hermits that Iskall could be considered as contributing to, he might potentially be able to claim his share of the revenue from, and that would be very difficult to figure out.
For the people saying "he as adult flirted with other adults, I don't see anything wrong here" few things:
1. I doubt this is EVERYTHING that has happened. I think most of it is still kept secret for the sake of HC, Iskall and potential victims (Iskall was good friends with several hermits, something more major has to happen for them to part ways). This way Iskall can still do content creation and not be labeled as offender. He "officially" left HC himself and it's for you to believe it or not. This is most mature way of separating for both him and HC and some things should just not be available to public.
2. HC would have had even bigger scandal, if they did nothing. Imagine these news would spread. Now "family friendly" server has an alleged offender as a member and nothing is being done. How would that look?
If Iskall was not a "Minecraft influencer" these people would have laughed at his messages and moved on with their lives. Cringey and/or aggressive flirting is really all I saw. That is what he did. Other then the supposed "inappropriate photo" what did he really do wrong. If the poster would have clearly set a boundary and said "Dude.. No.." I imagine he would have moved on, but instead they go out of their way to avoid doing that. Which is fine obviously, but then they act like they're some sort of victim.
And you can't really just say "Oh I'm sure he did other stuff so he deserves X". I mean that's how the internet works I get it, but it shouldn't be like that lol. The second reason is the real reason he's gone. Iskall is barely on the server, and they didn't want to put a black mark on their kid friendly brand.
offender? which offense did he commit?
@@jacobschweiger5897 i see you
"I doubt this is EVERYTHING that has happened"
And I doubt that literally *ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS EVER.* This is playground bullshit and yall shoulda left it back in Kindergarten!
@@andreamaral9725 Then that is on *YOU* to *ENFORCE* that *BOUNDARY* for *YOURSELF.* Its not my business nor is it anyone else's what Iskall does privately. This is a genuine slippery slope and more of people believe in this "nothing to hide nothing to fear." And it is getting really old.
The core four I followed on Hermitcraft were Mumbo, Grian, Iskall, and Tango. They were all so bubbly and just overall very pleasing to watch. I watched every Hermitcraft video from them that released. Eventually, I started losing the luxury of free time to watch UA-cam and it boiled down to three, sadly leaving Tango out. I heard about Vault Hunters, but was a little skeptical, I thought it to be too much of a deviant from my taste. Soon I broke down and watched one, then watched all, then followed it as it released. Yet again, my free time started slipping away, as what happens as a child grows, but I didn't even realize that I wasn't watching Iskall anymore. It finally hit me at one point that he wasn't uploading and I was like "man, where'd he go? What a shame..." I stumbled across this video and my heart dropped. This shattered my perspective on many things, and I'm 18. You were my childhood, Iskall. You got me through the Hell of school during Covid. Damn you, why did you do this? I will still cherish the memory of the fun Vault Hunter guy, but that is completely split and separate of what you have become.
Okay, so, the TL;DR is that Iskall flited with/at some people in his community, some reciprocated, one(so far) didn't, allegedly he was cheating by doing this, but he claims not to have a partner? From what has been shared so far, and after looking through the megathread on reddit, the only victim is the mod who never reciprocated the flirting back, which can/should be viewed as harassment, the other 2 are valid in feeling hurt but are still adults at the end of the day and engaged in mutual flirting.
BUT, it seems very clear to me that there is a lot more "explicit" information that has yet to be revealed publicly. Speculation would be that there are more people involved, more explicitly, and potentially some coercion/blackmail. As of now, I'll hold my breath and hope it's only what we've seen so far, and people are distancing themselves to maintain their image, rather than something more having occurred.
UA-camrs/content creators should never, ever engage in this kind of conversation or behavior with fans or community members
@@_BangDroid_ Why?
Dang, thank's for making this video! I was just on a call with a freidn last night and he told me that Iskall was in a controversy. I looked it up and found this. It's crazy that not even Hermitcraft is safe from drama.
I don't think this is drama, the hermits aren't putting him on blast or slandering him. They were presented with allegations, they probably talked about it as a group like all their meetings, and Iskall chose to leave voluntarily.
I think as a community we need to accept what happened and not assume more than is shared.
@@lukthelukiamluk you’re welcome!
@@cencent2189 absolutely
@@cencent2189 You're right, I suppose "controversy" would be a more accurate description
I am absolutely shocked by this. I noticed the change to the hermitcraft banner and was just expecting a change to inactive hermit's on the wiki
its a shame what happened, but we should let the hermits sort this out without the audience getting involved.
Its real important that people say stuff when they're uncomfortable, makes it a lot less likely that more people end up being victims. No need to feel guilty, your emotions are important and valid, if you feel uncomfortable just say so!
Oh but you see if they say nothing the next day they can shout their victim-hood from Twitlonger! The clout they would get would be incredible!
@@Moe_Posting_Chad real question, r u even a hermitcraft fan?
@@Moe_Posting_Chad I was thinkin it, glad you had the balls to say it lmao
@@L4w1 I have been watching since Mindcrack slowly dissolved.
Why would I not be a fan for having a strong bias AGAINST cancel culture and spreading DRAMA about the Hermit's PERSONAL PRIVATE LIVES?
What is actually wrong with you? Are you some teenager that was raised by an ipad? Is that why you think this way?
@@That_Gunner560 So you have no real capacity to defend your own terrible ideas? That's sad for you. Fact is. This is a rude exchange between adults. There is literally nothing more to this, but asocial people like you must turn it into some grand victimization!
Do you really not have a life? Are you so cordial and even tempered that you have never been rude or had an embarrassing exchange with someone else? Don't lie to me, everyone has had these awkward exchanges. How would you like it if your every misspeaking or bad joke was amplified on social media by A-Logs and used to force you out of your business relationships?
You are such a slimy worm.
I don’t get it. Did they ever tell iskall to stop or they were uncomfortable? It seems he was expecting to read their minds from text
It's hard to pass up an opportunity to become a _victim_ though.
That's what I'm always wondering lol, Grown ass women lacking responsibility.
It was literally mentioned they tried going over to different topics. It is not a 'no' question, if there is no 'yes' there has not been a 'no'. Also- power dynamics. They were his MODS.
@ I disagree. If they felt uncomfortable they should’ve said so and made their feelings clear. How else could he change his behavior? And they were his mods so what? They didn’t get paid as far as I know.
@@Alex-mc7sx Voluntary discord mods lol. They are grown women and they should have acted like it. Not doing hoops around it by changing topics.
Let me get this straight. An undesired man awkwardly flirts with a couple of women too much and makes them feel uncomfortable....
Is that it?
Nah the issue is the women he flirted with were his employees per say.
Additionally he kept trying to be flirty with them when they tried making it clear they were not interested.
That’s the issue.
@@darth3911nah he's kinda iskall guy all the time so its kinda ok if you know him. But set boundaries is important
@@darth3911 calling twitch moderators an employee is a crazy stretch
@@olliemcdowell4503 Its really not. Many twitch mods for large streamers are paid to moderate, as they need to set aside their time every stream and be on constant alert. So it very much is a Boss and employee situation. Iskall was flirting with employees, with people who he has a power dynamic with, while cheating on someone who actually loved him, and being a creep. Things like these can get you fired from your workplace, and he chose to resign when confronted, he wasnt kicked out, he resigned.
yes, that's it. dude basically flirted to much.
Thank you for taking the time and making an effort to compile this, I was quite confused when everything suddenly got shoved in my face and couldn't quite figure out why everything was happening all at once :')
Considering his inactivity on Hermitcraft and his focus on the VH SMP, why did they reach out specifically to Hermitcraft? That's like calling someone's boss to tattle that they didn't wear a seatbelt when you drove with them.
If it involved illegal activity, then you go to the police. It seems more like jilted love interests trying to drag his name through the mud in response to feeling betrayed. And with the mod, it seems she wasn't interested but instead of shutting down the advances with a clear no, she played along at arm's distance. It's not a "gotcha" if you baited out your evidence because the other person thought things were mutually consensual.
Actually based. Too many comments here condemning him with a lack of concrete evidence of any real wrongdoing. To be fair, I didn't read the documents, but if they didn't say "stop," or make their discomfort known, they can't possibly be a 'victim'. If anything, iskall would be a victim of defamation.
Hoping more damning evidence doesn't come out, but until it does, some of these people in this comments section need to chill out.
@@markfarmer7534 That's what I'm saying
power. dynamics. They were his MODS. They couldve lost their JOB. Also, how is it not known that the police handles these situations so HORRIBLY?
@Alex-mc7sx is a twitch mod a job? Seems a lot more like a hobby to me...
Considering how the rest of the world functions-with all kinds of creeps working in big companies and all the workplace drama I hear IRL-this feels tame. The guy made a mistake by behaving like that, yes, but I still wish him the best and hope everyone involved can recover.
There is nothing to recover from..... Because nobody was injured except Iskall who has been canceled. A disgusting communist practice.
This is so disappointing. Im glad the hermits reacted maturely and are handling the situation with care. I was wondering why I hadn’t seen him in other hermits videos for a while…. Gosh.
I just hope Stress is doing well at this time and is not being affected by anything going on.
am i the only one who doesnt see the severity here? no minor where involved, no sex fotos where sent, nobody got violent.
flirting with somebody over text isnt a crime, even when its only onesided. people seem to forget that on the internet, you can always block and walk away.
the internet needs to be studied for its obsession with nonexistent drama
From the accounts of the people involved, sex photos were sent
I very much appreciate you just presenting the facts and not expanding to guesses and assumptions that might not be true like so many other videos would.
@@Verne105 tysm, you’re welcome! That was my aim.
i feel there is something more to this story. Theses stories are so recent that it begs the question why Iskall left so suddenly- like he was trying to hide something more…
I was wondering when one of the HC members would end up involved with something..
I mean, old HC members have gotten into something
That already happened in the past lol, sadly.. not the first time!
Man I loved watching his vault hunters videos years ago and now I’m devastated 😢
I'm confused, what even is the allegation? That he was flirting?
Flirting implies consent. It was sexual harassment.
@@Jorbanana The whole point of flirting is establishing consent.
@@thomasdiehlen77 That's what I said.
essentially he just harassed someone by flirting to much.
Why no one talkes about evidence? There is no good evidence against Iskall right now, just some words that we must believe to be true. Presented screeenshots are just some of-context mess. If she worries about kids, so there are a lot of 18+ platforms where she can post full screenshots. I can't believe her words just because she said so! My opinion can be changed if a good evidence is presented, but right now I can only hope that Iskall will be alright, wish him all the best!
I just want to say huge respect to you for pulling this video together in such a kind and respectful way. It's refreshing to get the facts presented in an unbiased way, and also see compassion for victims and those caught in the crossfire, as well as you signposting how people can get help. Just really lovely, thank you
Honestly I always had this weird feeling about him. He seemd somehow off to me, had all these weird pauses and burn outs. I never fully trusted him.
What did he even do wrong?? Try to date adult people online? Did I miss something he did? Nothing seems illegal
Most I see is him being weird and doing too much, but the other person can just tell them to stop messaging them or something, either something is being hidden or this is exaggerated a lot :(
It seems that the allegations is about him trying to date when he's already have a partner, in other words, cheating
workplace harassment.
Not illegal, but manipulative and not a good look.
As it sounds like iskall has send unwanted nudes to some specific fans and moderators and has become explicit in the chat. It's not published to prevent children seeing or reading it. So even though it's a more mild form of sexual harassment, it's still sexual harassment. Some might also dislike that he did that while being in a relationship, so cheating on his partner, but we don't know if they have an open relationship or not, so it's hard to say if it was cheating. But he also said in the chat with his victims, that he's not in a relation ship. So he let those, who where interested, think they have a chance of coming together with him until he ghosted them. As it sounds like, it's mostly sexually harassing people via skype by sending explicit content and playing with their feelings.
I don’t have twitter and had no clue what was going on…. I knew Iskall hadn’t streamed or posted a video in a while, but I assumed he had IRL problems. I never expected THIS.