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So You Think This Band SUCKS? Ep.1- WINGER
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2025
- So You Think This Band SUCKS? Ep.1 WINGER
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Reb Beach is such a monster player, Winger should have never gotten the hate they did, great music!
Love his Fusion demos
100%
.............................and it was too bad that he left the band! They were still good, but just weren't quite the same after that.
He basically created his own style of tapping like Steve Vai did....
Mike Judge is to blame for the Winger hate
Kip is also a classical composer today. He was actually nominated for a Grammy a few years ago for Best Classical Composition.
He was a ballet dancer too. Totally explains his stage moves.
Yes, (surprisingly?) Kip is an accomplished musician. His interview with Rick Beato really opened my eyes.
"Nominated". 😅
*Kip Winger - 12 String Acoustic Guitar - Proof Bar, Houston 2017*
@@cousinfrosty1157 excellent interview. Saw that and always knew Kip was more than people gave him credit for.
A few years ago, I was working in a small club. They booked Winger and I immediately picked that night to work. When I walked into the venue, they were doing soundcheck and it all sounded just like back in the day. After soundcheck, I ran into Reb a few times in a back hall by the offices and he was not only nice, but apologized to me thinking he was in my way. It was hard to work that night listening to the sold out crowd and the band sounding so tight. They never sucked.
The truth is this: anyone who has any kind of genuine knowledge about music immediately recognized just how talented the guys in Winger really were. Virtuosos, all. Reb Beach is one of the most legendary axeslingers from the 80s/90s and remains a monstrous player to this very day. Kip Winger is a classically trained musician, incredibly melodic composer and monster bass player. Rod Morgenstein is equally killer on the skins.
Yes, Winger contributed to the criticism with some questionable song titles. Or were they playing 4D chess and following the road that there's no such thing as bad publicity.
I have loved them since they first came out. Proudly. And enjoy their work and their solo efforts to this very day.
Screw everyone else. And Lars. XD
Reb Beach has also been in Whitesnake for a long time (I think?), and it's no surprise why. He's beyond amazing. (John Roth is VERY good too.)
The third one (Pull) is god tier 90s grunge metal.
I have met him, Reb and Rod. More down to earth than your local unknown musicians, I promise you. Consummate professionals and peak talent.
Pull is a masterpiece
Pull is a great album
Loved that album.
I wouldn't call Pull a grunge album.
Beavis and Butthead was the first thing that came to mind. Rick Beato interviewed Kip Winger, worth checking out. Fun video, Mike.
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Do you know how long ago that's was? Rick interviewing Kip...I'll search it up...I know Rick has 2 channels also
I actually heard them as a kid in Guitar Hero 80's first, so I wasn't aware of the hate being a thing until much more recently when I'm older, I always loved the song Seventeen for the shredding I mean those are some killer licks!
They at least became self-aware and now sing the lyrics as "She's only thirty-five".
And the Beatles too, after they saw her standing there
That's good. Reminds me of how Mick Jagger switched some "girl" references to "woman" in the 80s, "Under my Thumb" comes to mind.
Should be she's only 55 now
“She’s only 98”
To be fair, the word seventeen sings really well.
Check out the “Pull” album folks! “Blind Revolution Mad” “Down Incognito “ “No Man’s Land” and the slow song, “Spell I’m Under,” GREAT production (Def Leppards engineer) some great songs. Heavy, but melodic.
I like "Junkyard Dog" from that album. Very heavy.
Don't forget Junkyard Dog! 🤘
"Spell I'm Under" is another good one.
@@mikesteelheart”Spell”was what I couldn’t remember! Wicked guitar solo in that one.
Ritual my favourite.
Real ones know Winger were always legit. If “Prog-Hair Metal” was recognized as an official subgenre, they’d be labeled the pioneers.
100%
They were basically like if Dream Theater did pop/glam rock
What other hair bands could fit this genre?
@@Trenton2000 Racer X, Leatherwolf, Mr. Big
@@zachary_attackery I've called them Dream Theater Light more than once haha.
Kip Winger is a genius and a great artist and performer. His solo show is on my top tier list of great concerts.
I met the whole band after a concert, when they came here in Italy for the Frontier Festival, in 2025.
Me and my band's bassist decided it would have been a good idea goin to the artist entrance-exit of the venue, where they would take their ride to the hotel, to get some of albums/instruments signed. It was their last show in Italy and we couldn't lose the chance to actually meet them. There wasn't many people with us waiting, i had my guitar and my band mate his Winger albums.
I remember specificaly that Kip Winger, before their ride was about to go to the hotel, saw me with my guitar in hands and made a wide smile on his face. So, they stopped their van in the parking lot and they came out if it to take pictures and sign stuff. They're not just excelent musicians but also big hearted people that gave inspirations to me and my band, specifically Kip Winger (who's also a classical music composer, directing orchestras) and Reb Beach (being one of my inspirations on the guitar).
It's a shame how we people act just like sheeps and pretend something sucks after hearing it out from someone else, without giving it real context. Perhaps if people weren't so close minded, Winger would have been WAY bigger.
They're my heroes and inspiration, i'll never forget them. \m/
Reb is an absolute monster. He lives near me and is a regular at the guitar shop I've worked at for the last 20 years. I've seen him play 2 feet in front of me on the shop floor countless times and it's mind blowing every time. Super nice guy too.
Sweet. Can you send this to him? 🤣🥳
Winger's third album is a very underrated record.
Pull is one of my favorite albums ever!
I saw them play the entire album last summer, and it kicked ass!
Karma had some amazing songs, too.
It’s their best. Pull is sooooooo good.
Saw that tour. Was insanely amazing.
Winger sucked? Oh, no, my friend. There was more talent in that band than the entire LA scene of the time.
Tallest kindergartener
Totally. They were just like Mr. Big...in the sense that all of the players were on the virtuoso level and they had great songs.
Unfortunately bc Mike Judd randomly had Beavis and Butthead hate Winger, it really hurt their band. Even tho Beavis and Butthead were supposed to be idiots.
@@Link-ji7kxagreed Link. Love me some B and B but they really fked Winger over in terms of pop culture!
@@ImLOG4Nhuh?
This is an awesome series! That is a great subject, and everything you said was perfectly accurate. We opened for Kip (solo, sorta) and Lita Ford a few years ago, and everyone was super cool.
I have a podcast called 1Track where I interview living composers, and I was lucky enough to interview and have a conversation with Kip a few years ago. What you said about him being a great guy is absolutely true. I, like you (I think we're about the same age) only remembered Winger from the hair metal days and Beavis & Butthead, but years later, I found out that Kip has been writing orchestral classical music. This interview turned into one of the greatest musical stories I've ever heard, and is a real testament to his talent and his desire to keep making music and to continue growing as an artist. He's the real deal, despite how he and his band were portrayed back in the 90's.
Pull and Winger IV are 2 of the best hard rock albums ever. Not to mention, Kip Winger's solo album "This Conversation Seems Like a Dream" is a masterpiece! It features guitar virtuoso Andy Timmons on lead guitar. Winger is winding it down, and Kip is concentrating on writing classical music, and a couple of years ago has been nominated for a Grammy for Best Contemporary Classical Composition for his debut Classical Release "Conversations With Nijinsky"
Winger IV might be my favorite of the post-"Pull" era albums, but Karma, Better Days Comin', and Seven all have their killer moments. For some reason, the FB groups I used to follow (back when I was still on FB) all *hated* Winger IV -I never understood their hate for that album. And yes, TCSLAD is just a really good listen. Also, UA-cam has "Making Of" videos for both Winger IV and Karma, I believe.
I saw Winger play Pull in its entirety last summer in Atlanta, and it was AMAZING!
People who say Winger sucks are only jumping on the bandwagon and most likely don’t know music
Edit: same with Warrant. Better songwriting and vocalist than most others in their ilk
As a lil kid i was obsessed with warrant. First concert i ever went to.
+1 for warrant, heaven and cherry pie don't speak for their catalog
100% this. Warrant were a great band. Big talk, In the Sticks, Uncle Tom's Cabin and so on and so forth. So many great songs.
Warrant was great! Jani Lane wrote some incredible songs. Listen to 'Bitter Pill' with the call-and-response vocals - come on! The prechorus alone in that song is better than 90% of the crap that came out that year.
I was a big fan of both bands growing up.
The next episode has to be on Stryper, another band who got unfairly labeled as "sucks" because of their popular ballads and being a "Christian" band even though the rest of their catalog was legit traditional 80s metal. Luckily both Winger and Stryper have both overcame that mischaracterization by now
yes!
And Stryper are kind of unique in that they’ve only gotten heavier with time. Of all the bands from that era, they’re standing way above most of their peers in terms of quality and consistency.
Stryper sucks bigtime, god damn they are bad
I had no opinion of Winger in the 80s, but "Blind Revolution Mad" is one of my favorite metal songs and the whole IV album was one of the most well written, performed and produced of the '00s.
Winger was the Real Deal. And Reb Beach? He's been in my top 10 for years 👍
I will say this. It takes a LOT OF BALLS to even think one is good enough to replicate, let alone try to replace George Lynch, especially during his days in Dokken. But as people don't realize, Reb Beach was asked to join Dokken, which he did for their album Erase The Slate, in 1999/2000. One of his biggest influences was George Lynch, and it actually shows in the phrasing in the solos for Seventeen, and You are the Saint, I am the Sinner, off of In the Heart of the Young. there are 3 licks in those solos that scream Lynch, and Reb pulls them off flawlessly.
As for the band, the entire band is completely underrated, as everyone is phenomenal. Morgenstein played with the Dixie Dregs, with Steve Morse, who were also huge. And before jumps on Kip Winger, they need to realize that the dude composed a couple of symphonies that were played by the Tucson Symphony Orchestra, as during that time in the grunge era of music, his wife died, so to get himself back into life, he went back to something he was doing before Winger and Alice Cooper, which was classical music and ballet. The guy has chops.. hell, the entire band has chops that those in the grunge era and those who say they suck could only WISH they had.
Agree about RB being able to hold his own with ETS! Saw D opening for Def Leppard on the ETS tour.
Dokken (and Lynch Mob) and George Lynch are also above-average talent. Amazing stuff.
Lars!
Lynch Mob should have been HUGE…Oni was like a miniature Coverdale. My friend’s cousin, Anthony, was their bass player…We all hung out on their first tour in Brooklyn at L’amour…Oni Burnt himself out and that’s when Robert stepped in (Total Machine)…
I saw Winger live recently in Australia with the original line-up, and they were phenomenal. The musicianship was out of this world - those guys can play.
Reb Beach wasn't just a shredder, but he was a riff master too. That riff in seventeen is just KILLER - one of the best of the eighties.
"PULL" was an amazing album. I wore out tapes and then CDs of it. Kip is a frigging master. A good mix of education, experience and creative wit. The other guys are top notch in their respective talents as well. But that album was and is unforgettable. Still have the CD in my center console in my driving apparatus in case my USB fucks up. :)
And he played for Alice cooper
Me too! LOVED that album
One word - KARMA. It's a hard rock classic that no one mentions. Riffs, solos, hooks, variety. Brilliant album. The next album, Better Days Coming, doesn't match Karma's brilliance, but does include Tin Soldier, one of the very best Winger songs. This video made me remember that I haven't listened to their most recent album, VII. I must do that this week 👍👍
The gall Lars Ulrich has to mock Winger when that band has a better musical pedigree and could play circles around Metallica. As for the controversy around "Seventeen", you've got to take that shit with a grain of salt. What Kip sang about in that song is what every hormonal-driven male teenager was feeling and thinking at that time. Every nerdy guy wanted to bang the hot cheerleader, but never did, so this song was their way of airing out their frustrations. I don't believe for one f**king second that this band was advocating guys acting like creeps and perverts around underage girls.
Double standard. Winger does a high school song and they're creeps. Taylor Swift has an entire catalog of high school songs and she's the biggest star.
This is actually a really good idea for a series. Looking forward to these.
Battle-stations off the Bill and Ted Bogus Journey soundtrack is damn amazing.
I'll always be unapologetic about my love of Winger. "Headed for a Heartbreak" is an absolute nostalgia bomb and has a monster guitar solo outro.
great point, brings me back when songwriting mattered and they could really play. Today we got more youtube videos of “check out my tone” than real music. Sad state of music it is.
Reb Beach is absolutely nuts at guitar
I’ve always said when it comes to greatest solos, the outro on headed for a heartbreak should be in the top five if not top 3. It is amazing. I can listen to that solo on repeat, and to see him play it, crazy! He is a beast! I’ve followed winger since the beginning.
Love reb beach and winger. I grew up watching rebs instructional tape and it's definitely my biggest influence to pick up a guitar! Cutting loose and black magic are both top tier tracks!
Great idea for a show series! Always keeping the channel fresh.
"She's only 15, she's the reason that I can't sleep. You say illegal, I say legal's never been my scene". Mötley was in the Zeitgeist as well as dozens of schlager and folk songs that time.
Your really right all in the name of Rock n roll and 17 weren't very good thoughts but hell I was 15 and 16 when those songs were huge . So It was Okay for me when I was 15 now That I'm A Grandpa no lol
That stuff was around in the 60s and 70s too unfortunately
There have been songs like that since the advent of rock and roll music. Kip even said his inspiration for Seventeen was "I saw her standing there" by the Beatles
All In The Name Of...
That Motley song was actually about Traci Lords. It's about her scandal.
I believe Kip Winger is a composer now.
He was on Rick Beato a while back
Yes, he's now a well-regarded classical composer.
My first ever concert was Kiss, Winger, and Slaughter in Houston in 1990 or something loke that. I was like 11 at the time but Reb Beach absolutely blew me away with his playing
Love Winger. Do a serious of Underrated classic rock bands - Strider, Mott the Hopple, Hydra, Les Meserables, Budgie etc
Budgie is a bloody great band
I saw Winger in 1993 at Saltair in Salt Lake City. Kip and Rod came outside and chatted with some of us waiting in line for about 20 minutes. We talked about how smelly the Great Salt Lake is (if you know, you know). Cool dudes.
Great analysis, Mike.
I gained respect for Kip seeing him play a live acoustic set @ the Midina Ent Center.
He did a fantastic job, by himself.
Joked while playing 17...at one point changing it to 35 I think.
People should lighten up on him, imo. He didn't write 17 last year.
He was a young man when he wrote it.
He put on a great show.
Thanks for the video, Mike. Your channel rules!
Winger was and still are awesome! Never thought they sucked. Also Joan Jett sings about him being 17 so it just wasn’t a social stigmatism like so many things these days that people get so bent over. It’s just music or it’s just a movie … calm down and just enjoy the creativity 🤘
Agreed about the 17 sentiment.
"17 and natures queen... You know what I mean?"
UFO
Great video! Winger was one of the bands on my rock mixed tape back in the day. Seventeen, Easy Come Easy Go, and Miles Away are still on my digital rock playlist today.
Winger was my favorite of those bands. Still listen to them today.
A local classic rock station once put together a show in which Ratt, Quiet Riot, and Kip Winger played. Kip opened and it was just him and an acoustic guitar. Not everybody had arrived yet for the audience, so it was just an intimate gathering with maybe a hundred people watching. I was literally right in front of him. He was so good. He played a few songs and spoke to us like we were his friends. He knew he wasn't the reason most of us were there. His humilty and honesty were refreshing and instantly endearing. Back in the 80s I had heard maybe three of their songs and I wasn't hugely familiar with them, but that day, he completely won my heart. I honestly didn't even stay to hear Ratt of Quiet Riot. Truthfully, I was only there because the father of my girlfriend at the time dragged us there. But I am so glad I watched Kip's entire set.
Everything that Kip Winger made since the " Pull" ( including that one) is a masterpiece. Kip is genius!
but the first 2 records are their best, you fool
Been catching your videos here and there, but I am now subbed. I want to see what you do with this series.
Btw, I love the album (and song) In the Heart of the Young. Great stuff.
Reb Beach is one of my favourite musicians of all time.. Kip Winger is a grammy nominated composer.. A great bank, with a long catalogue of awesome music, introduced to the market perhaps at the wrong time.. a time when a different lens was, some would say was needed..
Great vid! I got to get up onstage with them and play the last song of their set at Medina Entertainment Center about 5-6 years ago. Reb gave me his guitar and he played Kips bass, and we went into VH - "Ain't Talkin Bout Love." Such a blast!
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He ruined Whitesnake
@@moodlefyfulNah, whomever fired John Sykes ruined Whitesnake.
Sometime around 1984, I was living in Tampa. I went to a drum clinic with Tommy Aldridge at the old Thoroughbred Music superstore. Tommy decided to bring Rudy Sarso along to play, which I found unusual for drum clinics. During the clinic, the store announced the winner of a contest called the "best guitarist in Tampa Bay." A young Reb Beach took the stage to receive his award, to all the snickers of the crowd. He had short, new-wave style hair and wore a black Miami Vice style suit with rolled up sleeves and bangles on his wrists, all in the midst of a definite metal audience. The scoffing stopped when he was invited to jam with Tommy and Rudy. Scoffing turned to dropped jaws as Reb began to wail. I had no idea what I was witnessing at the time. Obviously that relationship with Tommy and Rudy continued through the years as he went on to play with David Coverdale.
I only saw them live last month here in Perth, Western Australia. Some awesome musicianship on display
My first rock concert was Winger and they absolutely rocked! To this day still one of best performances I've seen.
Kip Winger in an interview talking about Seventeen, "I'm just saying, people are like, 'Oh, how dare you sing this song?' I'm like, 'It's a pop song, man.' You know, it was just a fun pop song. I stole the lyric from Kingdom Come; they had a song on their album called '17' - I was writing the song and I was out of ideas."
I think the reason no one gives the Stray Cats any flack over "Sexy & 17" is because the narrator of the song is clearly in high school, saying "I ain't goin' to school, it's much too early for me" and how he and his friends "Are gonna do a little number on the teacher when she turns her back. We're gonna cut out of class, meet the girls by the railroad track". We have no such reference in "Seventeen" so we automatically assume that it's an adult lusting over a 17-tear-old girl. Nowadays, that's "creepy and ick". Back then, I went to school with girls who all had eyes for Kip and didn't give a rip about any creep factor.
I remember seeing the video for "Madalaine" as a MTV World Premiere Video and, immediately after, went to the "wrecka stow" and got the cassette. I spent the next five months learning the rhythm guitar parts. Never missed a Winger show in my area and even got to play a couple of festivals where they were a headliner. I'd still stand up front on Reb's side of the stage, trying to see if I missed anything and still as amazed as I was the first time I heard them.
Ummm, Rod Morganstein is/was the drummer for the band The Dixie Dregs with a pretty good guitar player known as Steve Morse!! Rod can absolutely, definitely hold his own. Listen to Off the Top, Cruise Control, The Wabash Bash, and more. Not many people play that kind of kickass jazz/rock anymore.
He also played with Jordan Rudess in Rudess Morganstein Project before Jordan joined Dream Theater. Winger is just a tiny piece of what he's capable of.
@@RyanMaziarz Absolutely!! He's a player.
I have a buddy who played guitar for Alice Cooper when Kip Winger was his bassist, he has nothing but good things to say about him and Kip even trusted him with help finding the members of Winger when Alice was about to change his lineup in the late 80s.
Love the new series and the evolving content. Winger had the coolest off time riffs while still being good songs. One of the best concerts ever, but made it so I never needed to hear any Kiss song again. San diego Kiss,Winger, Slaughter. Dana the bass player in Slaughter was amazing and they were awesome, then Winger came up and just destroyed, era of solo sections in the set and between having Paul Taylor playing crazy keyboards and then trading off lines with reb beach and Rod drummer from Dixie Dregs going crazy they were awesome,fired up. Then... After 2+ hours of kiss songs I decided I was over kiss. Sad But True😉
Very curious to see the upcoming bands in this series.
I've literally stopped listening to any UA-camr critic that says Winger sucks. The members of that band are STILL rocking all these years later AND their musicianship is LITERALLY top-notch...actually world-class level. Thanks for covering this - this showcases your honesty and musical integrity.
What about all the UA-camrs who are just thinking it? You'd be down to less than ten channels.
This is a hell of a good concept!
Keep rockin 🤘
As a life long Metal head. I appreciate Winger more now than I did in the 80s. Reb shreds and Kip has more talent than most.
i met Kip at one of those Rock Camp things..he was my counsellor. He was very complimentary of my playing and was really a great guy. He is a great player in terms of singing and bass. I was pretty impressed with him ...i should make a vid, "15 hours with Kip Winger" LOL
Winger is way too talented for the shit they got. And it started way before the Nothing Else Matters video and Bevin and Butthead. People hated on them for being over produced pretty boys.
Every single one of them is super talented. And a couple of years ago they put out a killer album.
Seeing them live with borrowed gear was amazing. Any band with Rod Morganstein on drums cannot be anything but great
My Sharona has the line "I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind"
Yes, it does. However, Sharona Alperin was 19 years old when 'My Sharona' was released. Still young, but not seventeen young.
Also, that song is 32% badass guitar solo.
Winger was my older sisters favorite band. I sold newspaper subscriptions when I was 13 and used my money to buy us tickets to go see them at the vic in Chicago. It was bad ass. They're still one of my favorite bands and pull is one of my favorite records. It's right there in between panteras the great southern trend kill and kiss unmasked. Amazing musicians and songwriters.
Stryper was also criminally underrated. Songs like Fallen, Legacy, Caught in the middle, All for one etc. turn heads🤘🏼
My alarm clock wakes me up to Stryper's Fallen.
Reb amazing !! I learned the intro to time to surrender! Amazing stuff!!
I believe another reason Winger was made fun of was because Kip used has bass as a prop in the video Seventeen rather than really playing it.
That was really what did it. Beavis and Butthead was big when I was in JR High and I really did like Winger and I knew that they were a very talented band but they were hard to swallow because of the corny videos and Kip Winger's constant prancing around with his bass, not to mention the band name. I still listen to Winger these days but it always amazes me how they never seem to notice the weirdness and lameness of their earlier videos.
Like a necklace
Thank you for this! There’s a clip of them doing “17” on some MTV show that’s just exquisite. Top form, one and all. Kip was the $hit.
Yea. at the time I thought Seventeen was cool, but back in those days if you were a guy you weren't supposed to like bands like that. Lol. Thing is I started playing guitar at 18 and over the years I revisited hair metal and heard them with fresh ears. Winger didn't hit until maybe a year or two ago (I'm 50) and OMFG they are amazing! Can't believe you didn't mention Kip writes full symphonies and I think he even received an award! Kip and Reb musically are forces of nature!
Seventeen _was_ cool. And IS cool.
This is a good idea for a series. Looking forward to how it progresses.
They're one of the most talented bands of all time.
Kipp was a good dude. Hung with him for an afternoon years ago when he was playing a solo show at a big festival. He's now winning awards for his classical compositions. who knew?!
The greatest musicians in the world can’t overcome terrible songs
My sentiments exactly
All I got to say is it's good to see everyone still shredding and this:
Kip Winger - 12 String Acoustic Guitar - Proof Bar, Houston 2017
For me, my issue with Winger came much more from the _video_ for Seventeen vs. the lyrics. Between the generic "performance" video and Kip Winger flashing the whitest teeth in rock & roll, they just screamed corporate rock to me from day one. That said, I might give their later stuff a listen & see if they pulled a Warrant and saved their best for after the fame.
Also, being named "Kip" is an instant downgrade if you want to be a rocker.
Pull is peak Winger. Check out Junkyard Dog.
Great video! Just wish you mentioned the song that turned me on to them “can’t get enuff”. Killer track in my opinion. But well done. They definitely deserved more respect!
Everyone that says Winger sucks, never really heard an album of them. Insane musicians and great songwriters.
A much needed series!
Count me in! 👍 Fonz
warrant rocks
Dog Eat Dog was an absolute masterpiece
Reb Beach was known as being a hugely down to earth and hilarious dude from Pittsburgh. I remember one of the guitar magazines did an interview with him around 1990 and he insisted on picking them up from the airport himself in his brand new Subaru Legacy. 😅 They made a big deal about how much he loved his downright non-rockstar, pedestrian vehicle.
Winger never sucked. It's unfortunate that Beavis and Butthead destroyed the band.
They didnt destroy it. By 1993 most people had already moved on.
Winger kicks ass. I saw them open for Tom Keifer two years ago. That face you see as my profile no longer exists b/c Reb Beach's shredding melted it off for good. In The Heart of the Young is an all time classic album start to finish.
I'll fight anyone who says Winger sucks. I mean, what the fuck? And not only the usual "they're virtuosos on their instruments." It's great fucking songs, great hooks and an awesome live performance.
I thought for sure when you mentioned Easy Come, you were going to say Hangin' On. I bought the debut when it came out, even though I was starting to dive into heavier bands (my user name prob gave that away) but I still liked all kinds of rock and metal (still do) and when I gave the disc a spin the first time, Hangin' On just blew me away. That fret intro into that phrasing riff, holy shit!
It landed 1/2 way down on "side 2" and I always wondered why that was not a side 1 song, and thought it should have been the first single! Like launch out of the gate; first song on the album, first single with that intro, the heavy based line comes in, come on!
If any one here is watching this out of curiosity of the band, go query up Hangin' On now and crank it, you will not be disappointed.
Winger are brilliant, Reb Beach is amazing. “Junkyard Dog” is heavier than anything Metallica have ever done. Fact! 😊
Winger was my first concert.
Small venue in Indianapolis so i was right up front on Reb's side of the stage. He has been one of my biggest influences from the first note I heard.
Side note to that concert. They had the very underrated band "Sweet FA" open for them.
All around a great show.
Musicians know what a killer band Winger was . The newer " made a deal with the devil" track was killer as well!!
Just go see Winger live. I saw them in the early 90s and again a few years ago. Such a great live band. Everyone singing along, band nailing every song. Kips voice has matured but he nails everything. Such a cool band (I say this as a die hard thrash fan).
Just clicked play, and I'll already say you don't need to sell me on Winger. I heard them as a Senior in highschool when they broke out in 88/89, and had the chance to really absorb the music before Beavis and Butthead (and grunge) ruined their careers. Reb Beach's guitar playing can melt glass at 20 paces, and the whole group together makes such an awesome noise. Kip Winger is an underrated musician and songwriter-- any clips of he and Reb working together should easily demonstrate that, and there are at least a couple examples out there on youtube for the curious.
Glad you're giving them a fair shake on your channel, man!
Saw a doc on Kip Winger a while back and the man is an extremely accomplished musician and composer! I was amazed! He plays a lot more than bass and has written symphonies and I believe movie scores as well as his own solo projects within the rock genre. Even though he’s been nominated for a Grammy for his symphony, I still don’t think he gets nearly enough credit for being a monster musician and a really cool dude…
I graduated in 1991, my 1st band recorded rehearsal over one of their tapes!! Hated them back then, now that I'm older I've gained an appreciation of Winger and most hair metal I hated in high school!!
I wasn’t always a Winger fan back in the day, but when Seven came out in 2023, I thought the whole album was amazing. It felt like they knew what I was going through in life, and wrote it just for me. Just like the lyrics say, “it all comes back around”. Truer words were never spoken.
Cool series idea!
Totally agree on your acessment. Winger showed up as the hairband door was closing and alternative rock/grunge was coming on the scene - and yeah, totally agree that a great looking dude with a cool first name was gonna get roasted. I used to crank up Can't Get Enough when it first hit, the riffs were killer, still a favorite jam from that era!
As a lifetime musician - Winger, to me, is truly every bit a "musicians" band, more than anything else. The level of legendary musicianship and incredible talent that every member of this band possesses, far exceeds countless many of the bands from the original "hair band" era and beyond. Kip Winger is a true inspiration to millions of fellow musicians and fans. Reb Beach and John Roth are both easily in the top 20 greatest guitarists in rock music. Rod Morgenstein is an absolute incomparable machine behind the kit. The fact that the band Winger may be considered a "suck" band by many, says more about those people than it does the band.
Thanks for spotlighting a criminally underrated band. As has already been stated here numerous times, the bona fides of the musicians in this band stand on their own. Sadly, they've got wrapped up their farewell tour. And thanks for the love for 'Easy Come, Easy Go' -- what a song!