@@ViciousXUSMC well...i dont know if i got a bad relay or not but it lights up like yours but it always has a short on it so it always stays in sleep mode. any suggestions?
@@greenflintriver If you used the same relay, swap your connection, it has one normally open and one normally closed. You should be opening the relay on power, so you want to wire to the normally closed connection. The lights and the clicks will let you know the relay is working. So thats the first step. The video shows all those things, so just make sure yours is mirroring what mine did, and make sure you have the jumper wire for the relay activation side, you need power to the board, and to the relay.
@@ViciousXUSMC thank you for kind reply I will keep trying . I put an ohm meter on the output side of relay and it is 0 ohm short wether power is on or off.
I ended up doing something similar on my XLS2500 but with a 3.5mm jack mounted on the chassis and everything else inside. Looks like factory installed. It accepts 3-32v DC as trigger input just like any other high end power amp.
This works well if you have a relay with dry contacts (i.e. the relay doesn't send power to the contact you close). Be aware some relays are made for lighting and are simply a remote light switch and will not act like a trigger but will send power to your connection.
Panamax power bar m8 av-pro has an 8 plug power bar, 4 plugs are controlled off a 12v trigger from your avr so easy set up for crown xls amps or external devices like hard drives you wish to shut down with one remote. Works great.
Thanks for this! Just waiting for the phoenix connector and it'll be golden. Curious, though, why the relay is needed. Couldn't you just go from the trigger directly to the pins?
Thank you so much for this guide. I am currently researching everything I needed to build and install 2 15 inch subwoofers into my existing home theater with avr as brain box to the system. For a passive big home subwoofer it seemed everyone on the internet went with these style amps because of their high watt per dollar, but one thing eluded me and it was their lack of trigger which was a hugggee buzz kill. Knowing that there's an easy solution is a life saver, will probably save me about 500 bucks over a home theater oriented external amp with 750-1000 watts a channel
Hey, nicely done and well explained. I've got a 1002 on the way and from reading the manual I know I can turn off the lights on the front, but when its in sleep with the lights on does it blink continuously or stop after a bit? I don't so much mind the lights when on, but the blinking might drive me crazy.
I wish this guide had been around when I bought my crown amp. I ended up buying an IoT Power Relay for around $35 and wired it to a USB cable plugged into a USB port on my receiver that powers on when the amp comes on. Not a bad solution for somebody who isn't comfortable with a lot of wiring.
Better Late than never :) My ultimate solution was a Panamax Pro unit that has the 12v trigger built in, since I have 6 of these in my setup, having them sequence and not be on all the time was nice. I also integrated it to my Alexa so I can turn it on/off via voice command.
How would incorporate or take your idea to a next level, making a HTPC trigger the 12v trigger you created? I want to turn on a PC and this would send the signal to power 3 amplifiers (no receiver).
Hmmm 10W is also a lot. Would expect something like 1W.... So its fine for daytime use, but its best to switch them completely off. Smart switch is a good tip!
Been using the smart switch solution for atleast a year now and no issues. I automated it with a Panamax unit with a network card so that from voice command I can turn everything on/off with the added benefit of staggering, so they turn on one after another with a couple seconds delay.
I have a couple of matrix distribution amplifiers have an input for a 12v trigger to wake them up. These rascals periodically go to stand by and I cannot shut that function off. Soooo, my answer will be to wake them up periodically (hit them in the ribs with an elbow as they are falling asleep so to speak) or perhaps keep the trigger on continuously. These seems to be a variation on what you did here but I do not have the skills to create it myself. Can you help?
If you just want to feet 12v to them, that should be easy enough. Get a 12v power supply and just wire it up using the best connector for the job. No need for fancy relays and such if always on is your goal (or use a smart switch to turn that power supply on/off when you do want them off)
I have a QSC 302 that doesn't have any kind of interface to set up a trigger, that I am aware of...and I would very much like to have the ability to do so. Is the power sensing power strip that you posted a link to able to solve that problem?
Yeah so many ways to go about it. Power sensing strip is just the easy way for most people that dont want to make things complicated. Have it connected to a device that will only be on when the amps should be on and has enough power draw to trigger it. I am using Panamax units now with advanced home automation that lets me turn them on in sequence with delay via voice command lol.
I contacted Crown and asked if there were any issues just powering the amp on and off through a master controlled powerstrip, where my AVR is the master. When the AVR is on, the rest of the powerstrip is energized. When the AVR is off, the rest of the powerstrip is off. Crown said it would be fine.
That's what I have been doing for about a year now but with a Panamax unit that is triggered by my home automation to be voice controlled. Specifically I used the Panamax so that there is a delay between them turning on/off to prevent huge surges.
Ha, not for everyone. I think it's pretty simple, and also cheap! But the most simple way is to use a power sensing smart switch or something. Just I'm a little OCD about hard powering equipment.
Got it, these amps have become popular in ht market which is what im using them for. All the home amps just have little 1/8 12v trigger chains. I wish crown or someone sold a simple plug and play solution but i guess ill have to bust out my multimeter
Worked perfectly with my 1502. Thanks that was useful.
Thanks man I was looking for this appreciated
Thank you. Going to get this.
I have been trying to do this for a month. Thank you!
Your welcome, I was hoping it would help at least someone trying to do the same.
@@ViciousXUSMC well...i dont know if i got a bad relay or not but it lights up like yours but it always has a short on it so it always stays in sleep mode. any suggestions?
@@greenflintriver If you used the same relay, swap your connection, it has one normally open and one normally closed. You should be opening the relay on power, so you want to wire to the normally closed connection.
The lights and the clicks will let you know the relay is working. So thats the first step.
The video shows all those things, so just make sure yours is mirroring what mine did, and make sure you have the jumper wire for the relay activation side, you need power to the board, and to the relay.
@@ViciousXUSMC thank you for kind reply I will keep trying . I put an ohm meter on the output side of relay and it is 0 ohm short wether power is on or off.
I ended up doing something similar on my XLS2500 but with a 3.5mm jack mounted on the chassis and everything else inside. Looks like factory installed. It accepts 3-32v DC as trigger input just like any other high end power amp.
This works well if you have a relay with dry contacts (i.e. the relay doesn't send power to the contact you close). Be aware some relays are made for lighting and are simply a remote light switch and will not act like a trigger but will send power to your connection.
Thank you for the tip .
Panamax power bar m8 av-pro has an 8 plug power bar, 4 plugs are controlled off a 12v trigger from your avr so easy set up for crown xls amps or external devices like hard drives you wish to shut down with one remote. Works great.
Thanks for this information. I have a Crown XLS 2502 and this is exactly what I've been looking for.
Thanks for the great tip about the relay and easy walkthrough. Just ordered from your links.
Cool video thank you
Thanks for this! Just waiting for the phoenix connector and it'll be golden. Curious, though, why the relay is needed. Couldn't you just go from the trigger directly to the pins?
I wonder if a smart power strip would also work to turn on the crown when the preamp comes on 🤔
Thank you so much for this guide.
I am currently researching everything I needed to build and install 2 15 inch subwoofers into my existing home theater with avr as brain box to the system. For a passive big home subwoofer it seemed everyone on the internet went with these style amps because of their high watt per dollar, but one thing eluded me and it was their lack of trigger which was a hugggee buzz kill. Knowing that there's an easy solution is a life saver, will probably save me about 500 bucks over a home theater oriented external amp with 750-1000 watts a channel
Hey, nicely done and well explained. I've got a 1002 on the way and from reading the manual I know I can turn off the lights on the front, but when its in sleep with the lights on does it blink continuously or stop after a bit? I don't so much mind the lights when on, but the blinking might drive me crazy.
Can you make video on how you plug in the smart Strip outlets
thank you for this video, could you make me a small diagram of the connection of the wires on the module? Thanks a lot
I wish this guide had been around when I bought my crown amp. I ended up buying an IoT Power Relay for around $35 and wired it to a USB cable plugged into a USB port on my receiver that powers on when the amp comes on. Not a bad solution for somebody who isn't comfortable with a lot of wiring.
Better Late than never :) My ultimate solution was a Panamax Pro unit that has the 12v trigger built in, since I have 6 of these in my setup, having them sequence and not be on all the time was nice.
I also integrated it to my Alexa so I can turn it on/off via voice command.
@@ViciousXUSMC do you have the model number of the Panamax unit you ended up with?
EDIT: nevermind, found your other video ;)
How would incorporate or take your idea to a next level, making a HTPC trigger the 12v trigger you created? I want to turn on a PC and this would send the signal to power 3 amplifiers (no receiver).
Has anyone found a project box that this will fit in that is not too big? If so, got pics?
Hmmm 10W is also a lot. Would expect something like 1W.... So its fine for daytime use, but its best to switch them completely off. Smart switch is a good tip!
Been using the smart switch solution for atleast a year now and no issues.
I automated it with a Panamax unit with a network card so that from voice command I can turn everything on/off with the added benefit of staggering, so they turn on one after another with a couple seconds delay.
I have a couple of matrix distribution amplifiers have an input for a 12v trigger to wake them up.
These rascals periodically go to stand by and I cannot shut that function off. Soooo, my answer will be to wake them up periodically (hit them in the ribs with an elbow as they are falling asleep so to speak) or perhaps keep the trigger on continuously.
These seems to be a variation on what you did here but I do not have the skills to create it myself. Can you help?
If you just want to feet 12v to them, that should be easy enough. Get a 12v power supply and just wire it up using the best connector for the job.
No need for fancy relays and such if always on is your goal (or use a smart switch to turn that power supply on/off when you do want them off)
@@ViciousXUSMC might a 12v power supply give too much current?
@@sdsmall1984 No, current is a determination of the load.
Amps never fry a device, voltage does.
The load will determine how many amps are drawn.
I have a QSC 302 that doesn't have any kind of interface to set up a trigger, that I am aware of...and I would very much like to have the ability to do so. Is the power sensing power strip that you posted a link to able to solve that problem?
Yeah so many ways to go about it.
Power sensing strip is just the easy way for most people that dont want to make things complicated.
Have it connected to a device that will only be on when the amps should be on and has enough power draw to trigger it.
I am using Panamax units now with advanced home automation that lets me turn them on in sequence with delay via voice command lol.
I contacted Crown and asked if there were any issues just powering the amp on and off through a master controlled powerstrip, where my AVR is the master. When the AVR is on, the rest of the powerstrip is energized. When the AVR is off, the rest of the powerstrip is off. Crown said it would be fine.
That's what I have been doing for about a year now but with a Panamax unit that is triggered by my home automation to be voice controlled.
Specifically I used the Panamax so that there is a delay between them turning on/off to prevent huge surges.
Is there a way to make it stop blinking when in sleep mode?
Yes it’s in the settings
Adcom gfa5500 doesn't have a trigger out or in .
I might as well just build a whole new amp at this point! Theres got to be a simpler way.
Ha, not for everyone. I think it's pretty simple, and also cheap! But the most simple way is to use a power sensing smart switch or something.
Just I'm a little OCD about hard powering equipment.
Got it, these amps have become popular in ht market which is what im using them for. All the home amps just have little 1/8 12v trigger chains. I wish crown or someone sold a simple plug and play solution but i guess ill have to bust out my multimeter