I think part of the "hate" for catchers is they only play in most cases only play 120 games...at most. But, Will Contreras did appear in 152 games. So yeah he is definitely a guy in the talk of great players. But, looks like he will move to first/DH next season. But, yeah catchers do a lot and really do have a tough position to play. But, they can get more time in the lineup now with the DH and save their bodies.
If “garbage time” means the entire second half of the season then yes Dansby got back to league average in garbage time. But dude was on a tear from July-September.
Ryan disrespecting the catchers is crazy! Catcher is the absolute most important position on the field, and having a good one is absolutely vital. I think WAR underrates them if I'm being honest. There's no way Elly De La Cruz was more valuable than William Contreras.
As someone who shares a name but is not the current shortstop for the Nationals, I did have a brief moment of "wait whoa what" as Jake was deciding on Nationals names at the end. Don't follow baseball super closely but enjoy the weird trivia stuff so... didn't know there was a baseball player with my name, hilariously.
Jolly with the terrible process of ctrl-F team names instead of using the dropdown box to sort by teams. Why he made the Dejong and Paredes errors that didnt really matter
Reynolds is barely a better hitter (20 points OBP, same SLG) and they're both average defenders at their position, but Oneil gets a bump because of how much harder it is to find an above average hitting SS than it is a LF
@ That’s because Defensive Runs Saved thinks he’s somewhere between Ken Griffey Jr and Andruw Jones defensively. He was ONLY worth 6.7 fWAR because he ONLY had 11 Outs Above Average.
Two wrongs in one episode is crazy and at least they didn't affect the game. Missed because of trades and I'm guessing this video was kind of impromptu by the way it was edited and what not. My guess is the list that compiles fWAR maybe only does a player list? Otherwise... Not great
it's crazy that jolly didn't just have the list of all 30 players in front of him lol
That’s jomboy content for you. Embarrassing company
@@sportkid1547 keep on commenting doormat
@ terrible chirp. Kick rocks
@@sportkid1547nah wtf is that comeback
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Paul DeJong being the most valuable player for the White Sox after only spending half a season there is actually nuts lmao
Then was a royal 🤣
Spoilers
Turns out the team that lost 120 games doesn't have very many valuable players.
With 1.0 fWAR
Well it was only 1.0 fWAR. A player could get hot and get there in a just a few games theoretically.
I'm so proud that they made a video that didn't have a recorded intro followed by another intro
You didn't pre-prepare a list of each team's top fwar guy? That would have taken what, 2 minutes?
Ryan's disrespect for catchers is insane, Raleigh and Contreras lead their teams in both fWAR and bWAR and are essential to them
to be fair it’s a boring position
@@jaredbrinkman3343wdym a catcher makes an impact on every play. LF is the most boring by far
I think part of the "hate" for catchers is they only play in most cases only play 120 games...at most. But, Will Contreras did appear in 152 games. So yeah he is definitely a guy in the talk of great players. But, looks like he will move to first/DH next season. But, yeah catchers do a lot and really do have a tough position to play. But, they can get more time in the lineup now with the DH and save their bodies.
Jolly shouldn't be looking at the full leaderboard because it shows full seasons. You can filter the team.
There are currently 30 postition players all time who have 90+ bWAR, that would be a fun watch
With Jake in his geoguesser sweater does that mean we're getting a comeback of GeoGuys?? i really hope so.
Was just about to say the same thing hopefully the shirt means the geo god guys can return. Probably once the off-season rolls around…
If “garbage time” means the entire second half of the season then yes Dansby got back to league average in garbage time. But dude was on a tear from July-September.
Ryan singing Chappell Roan is something i need in every video going forward
Ryan disrespecting the catchers is crazy! Catcher is the absolute most important position on the field, and having a good one is absolutely vital. I think WAR underrates them if I'm being honest. There's no way Elly De La Cruz was more valuable than William Contreras.
Yeah plus there weren't even that many catchers in list. I think Ryan is underestimating how rare a good catcher with a good bat is.
Didn't Cal Raleigh have like one of the best AL Catcher seasons period? Dude hit like 100 ribbies or something.
He's on one of the best 4 year runs to start a career at catcher ever, maybe only behind Piazza and Bench
Ryan singing pink pony club is awesome 😂
Ryan stealing my heart singing Chappell
You all could do a WAR draft from this past year, building 1 starting lineup, using the 30 teams, one person from each team
Logan Gilbert was our real ace this year. 🔱
His splitter is disguuuuusting bro
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I swear him and Kirby are the two most fun pitchers to watch
You mean the guy with a worse ERA+ than Tanner Houck?
finally another top 30 video. these are my favorite
jake and ryan singing chappell roan was so unexpected i love it
As someone who shares a name but is not the current shortstop for the Nationals, I did have a brief moment of "wait whoa what" as Jake was deciding on Nationals names at the end. Don't follow baseball super closely but enjoy the weird trivia stuff so... didn't know there was a baseball player with my name, hilariously.
*center fielder
@@willscheib6098 So he is. Google failed me.
Shelfy taking One last Breath before he answers. Lol.
Ryan needs to put some respect on Patrick Bailey's name.
I’d love one of these on the most recent hall of famer to play with each team
As an Ms fan I knew Julio would get guessed over Big Dumper. That was a tough one to get! Great video. This is a great group for a video.
My favorite thing about this video is that all four people try to talk over each other at least once a minute. Professional content
Oh, more hate from Nicholas
@@bv6377 found one of their burners
Dear lord Jolly. Black and Yellow is a song. Pirates wear Black and Gold. We don't have much here, please get the colors right.
Jolly with the terrible process of ctrl-F team names instead of using the dropdown box to sort by teams. Why he made the Dejong and Paredes errors that didnt really matter
Jake Burger Round 3 is crazy
See how is this video more entertaining and grabbing than when u guys play that awful Mario Baseball mini game??? Lol. Love u guys
Should probably specify at some point at the start or in the title that this is position players, pitchers not included.
yep noticed this when Riley Greene got it over Skubal
I noticed that first guess with Bryce, I knew wheels had more fwar
For Cardinals: every day player Masyn Winn, other than Ryan Helsley.
there has to be something wrong with this stat if it put Oneil Cruz above Bryan Reynolds
Reynolds is barely a better hitter (20 points OBP, same SLG) and they're both average defenders at their position, but Oneil gets a bump because of how much harder it is to find an above average hitting SS than it is a LF
Riley Greene was worth a very good 5.4 bWAR. But not quite 7, I think that’s Jarren Duran.
i just checked, and Duran is at a smoking 8.7 bWAR. What a season.
@ That’s because Defensive Runs Saved thinks he’s somewhere between Ken Griffey Jr and Andruw Jones defensively. He was ONLY worth 6.7 fWAR because he ONLY had 11 Outs Above Average.
Patrick Bailey should win gold glove this year
Maybe platinum glove
So funny to me that Shohei puts up an insane year as a DH and suddenly every hater only cares about fWAR 🙄🙄🙄
1:29, Merrill, I think?
OTTO LOPEZ MENTIONED RAAAAHH
Jocob Young the best defender in the game? Mr. Daulton Varsho would like to have a word...
is it really that much effort to put together a list before filming starts?
Team of buns 😭 why you gotta do my cards like that lmao
let me give you guys a hint. Aaron Judge.
Please do not use FWAR ever again. Thank you.
Tucker was out of action for nearly 3 months and Bregman had a horrible start to the season.
Would it have killed you to take the 5 minutes needed to just gather the 30 names before the video?
It was nice to have some additional context
LMAOO
Kyler Tucker missed like half the season, crazy good when he plays but Yordan raked all season. (and I hate the Astros)
1.0 is the most fWAR on the White Sox this season?????
They lost 120+ games
Tucker missed a ton of time.
Two wrongs in one episode is crazy and at least they didn't affect the game. Missed because of trades and I'm guessing this video was kind of impromptu by the way it was edited and what not. My guess is the list that compiles fWAR maybe only does a player list? Otherwise... Not great
jolly is weird looking and smug. insane combo.
Didn't your pappy teach you to be nice?
Every video with Shelfy reminds me that Shelfy does not know ball
Let's gooo. Love this series. I give it a 30/30 A+
Fire jolly already
Do these guys sleep? Dark circle city around the eyes
Do some work before making the video.
When the Dodgers go to that little league park, Shohei Ohtani will hit 6 homeruns an 15 RBI at Yankee's stadium.
The two guys on the right stink lol
How was Lindor not named in the first go around these guys are kaughabke
the world doesn’t revolve around the mets hope that helps
These guys are what?
Why does ryan only have to do one each round?? Lmao
Did you not listen to the very clear intro? It's a snake draft/order.
He’s in the middle of
Shelfy does 2
Ryan does 1
Jake does 2
Ryan does 1
it all evens out
Is the dead pixel in the mlb logo in the background engagement bait? It's working
No Joez in the middle being harassed by Jimmy and Jake 😢