@@GStefanes_ the word "they" is both the general plural and genderless singular pronoun, though the sentence always acts like it's a plural. example: "they were wearing a cool hat."
Goku: Heya Best Buddy! How's it going? Vegeta: Doing great! How about you best buddy? We can talk over the training sessions. Goku: Heh sure let's go! I can actually hear Lani and MasakoX saying this in this what if
The biggest change is the imprisonment of Pickalo it made cool easier to kill because without namekian DNA Cell becomes a weaker person evin in perfect 👌 cell form because healing was one of his most useful natural abilities 😮😮 .
@@keith9005100% I found it was utter bullshit that Goku was more hard on his brother than the ego-centric, genocide enthused Vegeta. Raditz, when you read his Ki would come across as a someone who is cunning to the point of crossing into cowardice, marred by extreme insecurity, would be far easier to change than Vegeta who took a couple decades to truly mellow out and stop being such a PoS.
@@u.s.s.chucklefucker1657 I completely agree with the points you made. It's all the hard truth that needed to be said. Not only that Raditz looked alot like Vegeta but with longer hair, more muscular and taller. He was alot more intimidating than Vegeta was! Raditz will always be my favorite saiyan. He might be my favorite character of all time! I also feel like Goku would have a much better bond with his brother. Sure Raditz kidnapped his son, but Vegeta almost had everyone on earth killed. He was a much bigger threat yet he was spared. I would have atleast liked if Goku gave Raditz a chance when Goku had greatly surpassed him and brought him back. Or the fight could have gone alot differently like Masakos what if. Removing Raditz as a character completely from the story was and still is such a waste, as he was the bigger brother of Goku.
Wow, if i had a nickel for every time a Saiyan got knocked on their head and turned good i'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
Fanfiction usually depicts characters in ways they would NEVER act, and deliver it in such a cringe way. But Dragon Ball fans seem to just, understand the characters and love the entire story of Dragon Ball. I'm happy I finally found a way to enjoy Dragon Ball (I mean, besides these types of videos), but ashamed that it took the passing of one of the greatest artists of the modern age. Rest in peace, Akira Toriyama. You still impacted my childhood heavily, even if I wasn't a faithful viewer.
I've always had a weird what if that I think could work, "what if goku farmed siabamen" since gokus farms, he could've got some beans off nappa and cultivated them into powerful allys learning to grow them stronger and stronger maybe using them to train too
Yamcha: hey Goku, I was getting back into training and krillen told me that helping you farm would be a good star.. (Saibaman grabs him) Yamcha:aaaaahhh (Boom)
That's better for an alternate Timeline in a game but 100% cant happen in the series since Nappa used all of his seeds in that fight and Saibamen were stated to be genetically engineered and unless Bulma worked on them, they'd never grow stronger.
@Xtheartist465 The implication that saiyans conquer planets and can use a pod to heal most wounds, yet don't practice safe sex Don't be like saiyans kids, saiyan armour won't protect you from STDs
Part of the plan was to track down Babidi's ship, which is where Buu's sealed ball is. If they knock out Babidi's initial minions, then the wizard would not only be on high alert, would be more discreet with energy collecting, but Majin Buu would be a far bigger threat if he gains more energy than is required. By dealing with the threat before it becomes a threat, it makes things easier... in theory anyway.
I just noticed a minor plot hole, in the Majin Buu Saga, he says that Foten sweeps the junior division of the Tenkaichi Budokai but then that he wins the main tournament…
i would love to see this going into GT. imagine this vegeta becoming the vessel for Baby. and since nobody knew the old vegeta it would be very impactful.
i loved it. Vegeta had the biggest growth in the original series and didn´t get the recognition he deserved. This gave me some kind of closure at last (least).
1:39:40 a vegeta who is willing to fuse here and cooperate with goku is quite a nice change. i also did have a hunch that goku picked up on fusion dance from earlier in the what if, and it turned out to be true
Salad you are a very good dbz what if creator, you have much knowledge and mostly makes content interesting rather then just making verses up like other creators, yours actually makes sense. You and carthu dojo, and masakox are like the best what if content creators.
Yo Salad iv'e got a What IF that would be an intreting challenge for ya, What if Raditz body was found by Gero and turned into an Android, Because of the fly bots scanning all the fights Goku had on earth means that Gero would of found a easy target for his experiments, Plus can an Android Saiyan turn super saiyan because of how there body has changed, I'd think that would be an intresting concept, So you could have it that he replaces Android 16 in a sense, It would be cool to see Raditz as a good guy kinda like 17 and hanging around with the other Androids and krillin.
1:42:05 Future Raditz and Future Nappa are probably gonna help rebuild Earth where the former becomes King and successor of Furry while the latter becomes a Hollywood producer.
Great Job Salad!This was a great what if definitely one for the books!This what if got me thinking,what if Vegeta arrived during the Piccolo Jr arc,kinda like that one fan animation where Goku and Vegeta fought Broly.
@@Chrisp-gn9bv You know that one fan animation “LEGEND-A DRAGON BALL TALE”?Thats what I’m talking about.If you haven’t seen it you should check it out its really good.
Of all the stories I’ve watched from this channel this maybe my favorite thus far Based on where it left off I certainly hope you build on the story that was presented 💯💯
All hail anything to do with Vegeta! Great story. What if, Freeza never destroyed planet Vegeta? Would any of DBZ happen? Surely someone would have come to check on Kakarot sooner.
This was one hell of a journey. Listened to this in the background whilst doing other shit and damn, I was hyped the more the video progressed. I love that Nappa and Raditz played a role in the end. Vegeta being good, and the hero, feels fantastic.
I know power levels weren't really mentioned, but if Turles' power hadn't changed all that much from his canon appearance, then before eating Earth's fruit, his power is stated to be 19,000, only marginally stronger than Vegeta was in canon. This is backed up by the fact that the few times we see Turles fight Goku, who supposedly has a power level of 30,000 in this movie, he isn't able to land a hit and is consistently running away. After he eats the fruit, he is able to bloody and injure Goku in just three hits and a blast, showing that he's definitely much stronger. However, his power level is listed on kanzenshuu to be "Over 300,000"... which is hilariously wrong. Because Goku uses a Kaioken x20. His power is thus 600,000. Turles still completely toys with him; with ease overpowering Goku in his first attack and incapacitating him in just a couple hits. This means that Turles MUST bare minimum be around 720,000, about 20% stronger than Goku, because this is the sort of power level difference we see for characters to be so overpowering (such as Cui, 18k, vs Vegeta, 24k). Thus, as the guide is clearly dead wrong and Turles actually got to a power of about 720,000... eating Earth's Tree of Might Fruit made him *_just under 38x stronger._* And Turles importantly only ate A SINGLE BITE of the fruit, not the whole thing. I assume Vegeta's power is only about 2000, since he thought they would only even stand a chance as Great Apes. This still results in his power becoming 76,000 if we use the same multiplier. And then with a few days to solidify his power here, then the Wrathful Form to multiply it by ten... his power would be about 760k. Far, far more powerful that 1st Form Freeza, but not enough to overpower his second form. Which lies up very perfectly with Freeza believing he could defeat Vegeta easily if he could just fight him alone. Long story short, I love how without even mentioning power levels, this actually follows with what those of us who do like numbers would expect. Very well done, especially the little addition of the Earthlings having the fruit to keep up.
@@LassanaJaiteh-p2eVegeta wasn't born at 18,000. Bardock was 10,000 approaching King Vegeta levels, and Vegeta said he surpassed his father as a child, so he couldn't be anymore. I believe in the ¿¿dizenshu?? It says that Vegetas power was 18K in the saiyan saga.
@@abdullah10951 Thats... a really good point. Goku at his 90K Namek power level was sure that he could do x10. A goku with a third of that should be able to pull it off, but probably with the strain the x20 had on Goku V Frieza.
One hypotetic scenario that would be fun to imagine is "what if trunks go back in time to stop Lapis and Lazuli's kidnappings and trained them to be z-Fighters ", it would be fun to imagine what kind of Cyborgs/Androids Gero would come with.
The base idea's neat, but I think it could have been more interesting if prince Vegeta was good for a difrent reason. I thought for a sec that you were going the route where he'd actually be "good" throughout his childhood on planet Vegeta, going on a rebelious streak towards his still rather cruel father. This could have been done due to something he'd have experienced in his formative years as a child that inspired him to be a just prince and to try and mend the ways of the Sayans, only to end up banished by both his people and a very annoyed father. I feel like that struggle would be an amazing departure from "what if we only slightly tweaked the typical Dragon Ball story like every other what if?" I think it wouldn't be that unlikely either. Seeing how the cannon Vegeta of today is a stark defender of the earth and does his very best to protect the ones he loves. Despite his bumpy road getting to this point, this only tells me that if he were to resist the influence of his race's upbringing as a child, he could very well be a force for good from the start. And we all know just how stubborn he can be, so it wouldn't be weird at all for him to rebel against the current way things are handled on Vegeta. He'd just need to have something impressive enough happen to make him WANT to try it for himself. Oddly enough... I could see this version of Vegeta being MUCH stronger then the OC one. Seeing as this one would constantly be hounded by his own race and would probably end up on the bad side of Freeza pretty early on. Meaning, he'd be doing something the OC Vegeta didn't till he met Goku. And that would be train to be stronger. Let's not forget. Vegita was a genuine prodigy among the Sayan race. OC Vegeta let that get to his head. Not unlike Freeza. There wouldn't be any of that entitlement in THIS Vegeta. Oh.... Also... Goku didn't "become good because he bumped his head", the bump basicly just hit the reset button on him. It was Gohan that used this opportunity to make him good. There's no way in hell a simple case of amnesia alone would make any Sayan raised by other Sayans to become good. They'd just be taught to be ruthless jerks all over again.
Salad I always like your what if scenarios it's fun and very interesting to watch and I like the content and seeing different characters having their own development and everything it's so cool and fascinating and I like the character art work it's so cool to see on your channel and it's just awesome and cool and fun and I like it 🙂
As an april fools scenario, Kami not only can instantly travel from/to the lookout and other world, but can also teleport to any place on Earth he chooses and has always known the Mafuba, just decided not to use it and let Piccolo commit mass genocide.
@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg not exactly. He did show up for the 23rd budokai and used the Mafuuba there. But that was after watching Roshi and Tien using it. Showing up just from stopping someone from killing his other half doesn't show his rightous side. It shows his selfish side. But that is a constant with Kami and pretty much every character is these what ifs. They don't act like the original characters and they know techniques they haven't learned (like instant transmission Kami) and know others they shouldn't be capable of learning (like super kaioken or MUI Vegeta). This happens because viewers like to see a new scenario every couple of months, so some basic parts (some parts that are shared between all of SaladSaiyan's scenarios) are always the same. And when he notices how out of character they are or remembers to call them out himself, he just says they are "rules imposed for this scenario." Also, remember Kami isn't "all knowing" either. He couldn't possible know if Vegeta was of a kind hearth after watching him for a couple of months. He wasn't even sure about Goku and he had watched him since he was 5. It would have been more in character to be wary of Vegeta, him being of a warrior race of psychopaths. Being able to ride nimbus isn't the only test of character Kami has needed in the past, especially if you know, it's your job to be guardian of Earth and you know the killer monkey alien knows how to fly.
Yknow, i would like it if in these "x turns good" stories, rather than making them do a 180° on their entire personality, they instead retained most of their personality. Like, example: cell turning good, we know that he kinda does his own thing, so imagine if he was sort of like an anti hero who would gladly absorb 17 and 18 again if he needed to, sort of like how frieza is still evillish evil despite teaming up with goku a few times already in dbs.
2:50 Frieza: besides I may be evil but sending a young soldier with head trauma to a battle is to much. If something will happen to that monkey then at the very least he should know who he is and what he’s doing
I can't see Nappa and Raditz being able to get away from Vegeta with a power level that's more than two times theirs. Also, canonically Frieza only sent them to planets with weaker inhabitants, lower gravity and they weren't very keen on using “weird” techniques. To contrast, I love the scenario of Raditz and Nappa staying alive and getting stronger than before and for Turles to join them with the idea of them all fighting Frieza.
@@surytheworst805 Not really. If they participate in and win the tournament, the people of earth would still know of them during the Buu Saga. So if the Spirit Bomb is still needed, ttey would probably help.
I always say "another one of my favourites" or something along those lines but tbf idk if I can pick any favourites since I like them all for their own reasons. Some I like more than others though so I'll have to make a Top 5 at some point 🦍
In the tree of might saga, goku and vegeta could've gathered the dragon balls and used them to destroy the effects of the tree while giving turles a tree of might for free.
One thing I will say... honestly I see Raditz actually being understanding about what Vegeta wanted to do right off the bat, even if Nappa didn't. The thing about Raditz is that he comes from a bloodline of [REMOVED BECAUSE UA-cam'S MODERATION ALGORITHM DOESN'T UNDERSTAND CONTEXT] saiyans as the majority of Saiyans would call it. Bardock with his code of honor and legitimate care for his people, and Gine with her kind heart and lack of the typical Saiyan battlelust. Also, remember that Raditz is a pragmatist and a coward. Because of both of these factors, I could easily see Raditz having a change of heart alongside Vegeta in this scenario, because 1. it ensures his survival and 2. he has the mental and emotional capacity to understand having a conscience, even if he doesn't listen to it half the time. I think he'd stick around out of practicality. As for Nappa, I think you've got it spot-on with him. Even if he doesn't really understand what's going on, as the Prince's appointed bodyguard and caretaker he's loyal to Vegeta to a fault. I don't think he'd just abandon Vegeta.
Who would have thought that the best thing for Vegeta and all of universe 7 was for Vegeta to receive head trauma. Its a shame that Piccolo isn't created because King Piccolo is sealed away, and Fat Buu gets killed. But it's awesome to see that Raddits, Nappa and almost all of the future timeline characters are still alive. And that there's multiple God form characters rather than just Vegeta and Goku.
Good Vegeta be like:
"I have a healthy rivalry with the saiyan called Son Goku"
AND I HUG MY SON EVERYDAY
And I value and love my wife 7:57
Look down
PS i always leave timestamps 9:33
Normal Vegeta: His name is kakarot
"I accept your healing to continue fighting"
I like that the reason that Vegeta liked Goku in this scenario basically boils down to ‘he’s just a little guy’
he is just a silly little guy
@@MattsAlive a funny lil’ fella
@@tylercoon1791 a goofy lil' dude
@@bakruptfern329 a comedic tiny buddy
@tylercoon1791 a humorous tiny gentleman
When they said goku and vegeta got married and the little "not with eachother" at the bottom killed me
😭
Untrue
I mean, they bicker like a married couple soooo...
I dont understand this thing of people calling each other they, is it something i missed in grammar?
Fr im asking
@@GStefanes_ the word "they" is both the general plural and genderless singular pronoun, though the sentence always acts like it's a plural. example: "they were wearing a cool hat."
Goku: Heya Best Buddy! How's it going?
Vegeta: Doing great! How about you best buddy? We can talk over the training sessions.
Goku: Heh sure let's go!
I can actually hear Lani and MasakoX saying this in this what if
I … need this to happen now. I need to hear this!!
And then vegeta wakes up in a cold sweat
The biggest change is the imprisonment of Pickalo it made cool easier to kill because without namekian DNA Cell becomes a weaker person evin in perfect 👌 cell form because healing was one of his most useful natural abilities 😮😮 .
@@toddstaples5127I think you replied to the wrong comment
@@thememenoob6426 they need a dragon short of this premise
"Oops I just dropped a toddler in a ditch! I'm such a gemini"💀💀💀
Nah, that's crazy 💀
thats crazy :|
Crazy
My dad when we went to the swimming pool:
Grandpa Gohan comes back… meets Goten💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I love how vegeta had to take two hits to the head
Fr, like one should’ve been enough 😂
nah, one for the ego and another for the general dickhead xD@@newbie1800
really had to make sure he was getting turned
@@Hungaryhip
We had to knock him in the head twice. Not because we don’t like him, but because we had a lot of evil to knock out of him.
@Starlitsoul0359 lmao indeed but now he's got mc enegery coursing through his vains
We always love when raditz gets that screen time! 🗣️
Which he deserved in the actual franchise.
@@keith9005100%
I found it was utter bullshit that Goku was more hard on his brother than the ego-centric, genocide enthused Vegeta.
Raditz, when you read his Ki would come across as a someone who is cunning to the point of crossing into cowardice, marred by extreme insecurity, would be far easier to change than Vegeta who took a couple decades to truly mellow out and stop being such a PoS.
@@u.s.s.chucklefucker1657 I completely agree with the points you made. It's all the hard truth that needed to be said.
Not only that Raditz looked alot like Vegeta but with longer hair, more muscular and taller. He was alot more intimidating than Vegeta was!
Raditz will always be my favorite saiyan. He might be my favorite character of all time!
I also feel like Goku would have a much better bond with his brother.
Sure Raditz kidnapped his son, but Vegeta almost had everyone on earth killed. He was a much bigger threat yet he was spared.
I would have atleast liked if Goku gave Raditz a chance when Goku had greatly surpassed him and brought him back. Or the fight could have gone alot differently like Masakos what if.
Removing Raditz as a character completely from the story was and still is such a waste, as he was the bigger brother of Goku.
@@keith9005 Calm down we all like raditz
i wonder if raditz inspired ssj3
Wow, if i had a nickel for every time a Saiyan got knocked on their head and turned good i'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
The legendary line
😂
If I had a Nickel every time Goku didn't kill a Monster I'd be at least a Trileinea
@@SPIDER_MIKEY_27 ah yea you haven’t watched og db
@@SPIDER_MIKEY_27buu jenemba piccolo Moro gas (indirectly) cell (indirectly) and the gynu force would like to disagree
Fanfiction usually depicts characters in ways they would NEVER act, and deliver it in such a cringe way. But Dragon Ball fans seem to just, understand the characters and love the entire story of Dragon Ball. I'm happy I finally found a way to enjoy Dragon Ball (I mean, besides these types of videos), but ashamed that it took the passing of one of the greatest artists of the modern age.
Rest in peace, Akira Toriyama. You still impacted my childhood heavily, even if I wasn't a faithful viewer.
Ikr. Dragon ball fans make the best what ifs. And the only decent ones
when it comes to fanfiction, dragon ball and knowing how characters would act, id recommend reading Dragon Ball Kakumei! best that there is
Ngl bro that aint always the case...like...at all
@@emocatlover999 kakumei has so many ooc moments.
Vegeta is always pure unadulterated badass.
I know right?
More like pure unadulterated ego
@@randomperson862 i heard that tryclops!
@@supershadow9200is that okk?
I see DBZA reference. I like. I am simple man.
"why is one purple?!" Best line ive ever seen
The answer is simple. Instead of a Great Ape transformation, he ended up with a Grape Ape form instead
@@InfernosReaperMy gawd that great ape is covered in that purp-urple!
Nah that's the grape form@@InfernosReaper
Nah, that's trunks. Looks like a fruit. Like a literal fruit.
EGGPLANT
I've always had a weird what if that I think could work, "what if goku farmed siabamen" since gokus farms, he could've got some beans off nappa and cultivated them into powerful allys learning to grow them stronger and stronger maybe using them to train too
That's a great idea for a mobile game, don't know if someone did this
Yamcha: hey Goku, I was getting back into training and krillen told me that helping you farm would be a good star..
(Saibaman grabs him)
Yamcha:aaaaahhh
(Boom)
@@kingbidoof7619i'm 💀 💀💀
@@kingbidoof7619 It’s a pretty good point to end off on too.
That's better for an alternate Timeline in a game but 100% cant happen in the series since Nappa used all of his seeds in that fight and Saibamen were stated to be genetically engineered and unless Bulma worked on them, they'd never grow stronger.
1:42:18 Cue to Vegeta and Bulma having a nice sleepover with a massive Galick Gun blasting through the roof again.
ayo- teamfourstar?
"the fuck's a condom"
@Xtheartist465 The implication that saiyans conquer planets and can use a pod to heal most wounds, yet don't practice safe sex
Don't be like saiyans kids, saiyan armour won't protect you from STDs
Vegeta: I was wearing my armor!!
I think Shin’s plan to let energy get absorbed is absurdly stupid and unnecessary. Just knock them out and wait for Babbidi to send more minions
Yeah
Well, if they did that, then Babidi would probably be on high alert because of sudden interference.
@@LloydTheZephyrian And? He still has to go to them to get the energy required
@@keithshepard3 He'd be a lot more careful about it, though, which could mean he goes about things far more discreetly.
Part of the plan was to track down Babidi's ship, which is where Buu's sealed ball is. If they knock out Babidi's initial minions, then the wizard would not only be on high alert, would be more discreet with energy collecting, but Majin Buu would be a far bigger threat if he gains more energy than is required. By dealing with the threat before it becomes a threat, it makes things easier... in theory anyway.
I just noticed a minor plot hole, in the Majin Buu Saga, he says that Foten sweeps the junior division of the Tenkaichi Budokai but then that he wins the main tournament…
Didn't he address it as the divisions getting mixed together to allow the tournament to continue?
This is the all saiyan brawl we deserved, shout out salad Saiyan for possibly the best what if dragonball battle ever!!!
i would love to see this going into GT.
imagine this vegeta becoming the vessel for Baby. and since nobody knew the old vegeta it would be very impactful.
i loved it. Vegeta had the biggest growth in the original series and didn´t get the recognition he deserved. This gave me some kind of closure at last (least).
I feel like Raditz and Nappa would have stayed on earth if Goku had mentioned how good the food is.
Fr
Shouldve taken the april fools to another level by making Vegeta have a plan to give everyone Amnesia to make them good
Frrrr
That would be funny.
1:39:40 a vegeta who is willing to fuse here and cooperate with goku is quite a nice change. i also did have a hunch that goku picked up on fusion dance from earlier in the what if, and it turned out to be true
Alternative Title : What if VEGETA Was a MAIN CHARACTER? (Full Story)
Technically, he is a main character, just not the protagonist.
@@ghastlyanarchy1720 oh yea that's true
@@ghastlyanarchy1720 so, what about "what if VEGETA was a MAIN-ER CHARACTER? (Full Story)"
@@Chryssantha lmao. You might just be on to something
what if vegeta was the mainest character
42:02 i like how bro had to clarify "not with eachother" 💀
Next salad saiyan project: What if Goku was gay?
Yeah imagine that...
@@kodyshaw6991 💀
This is actually a pretty neat scenario, April fools joke or not. Always grateful for these full story videos dude 🤙
Vegeta: Look at me! I'm the main character now!
Goku: You certainly are best buddy!
Salad you are a very good dbz what if creator, you have much knowledge and mostly makes content interesting rather then just making verses up like other creators, yours actually makes sense. You and carthu dojo, and masakox are like the best what if content creators.
yes
Don't forget masakox
Ay, GokuT23 is pretty good /j
@@lunaschosen3557 sorry I haven't watched him before
@@superllkidyt1153You should look him up. His "What if the Ginyu Force Turned Good?" is one of his most popular.
Yo Salad iv'e got a What IF that would be an intreting challenge for ya, What if Raditz body was found by Gero and turned into an Android, Because of the fly bots scanning all the fights Goku had on earth means that Gero would of found a easy target for his experiments, Plus can an Android Saiyan turn super saiyan because of how there body has changed, I'd think that would be an intresting concept, So you could have it that he replaces Android 16 in a sense, It would be cool to see Raditz as a good guy kinda like 17 and hanging around with the other Androids and krillin.
Kinda fire
Would have*
I think that this is the earliest I've ever caught a video like this... not what I expected, but I will never complain about salad saiyan.
1:42:05 Future Raditz and Future Nappa are probably gonna help rebuild Earth where the former becomes King and successor of Furry while the latter becomes a Hollywood producer.
King Raditz, baby!! Woo!
I wonder if Nappa would make a king job movie lol
Great Job Salad!This was a great what if definitely one for the books!This what if got me thinking,what if Vegeta arrived during the Piccolo Jr arc,kinda like that one fan animation where Goku and Vegeta fought Broly.
Z OR SUPER?
@@Chrisp-gn9bv You know that one fan animation “LEGEND-A DRAGON BALL TALE”?Thats what I’m talking about.If you haven’t seen it you should check it out its really good.
wdym@@Chrisp-gn9bv
@@Chrisp-gn9bv technically z
Of all the stories I’ve watched from this channel this maybe my favorite thus far
Based on where it left off I certainly hope you build on the story that was presented 💯💯
All hail anything to do with Vegeta! Great story. What if, Freeza never destroyed planet Vegeta? Would any of DBZ happen? Surely someone would have come to check on Kakarot sooner.
Thumbnail goes hard, story goes even harder 🔥
2:91:30
Nappa is tall, bald, bulky, and cruel.
Cabba is small, skinny, and has a full head of hair and kind.
these two are pretty much the opposite.
This was one hell of a journey. Listened to this in the background whilst doing other shit and damn, I was hyped the more the video progressed. I love that Nappa and Raditz played a role in the end. Vegeta being good, and the hero, feels fantastic.
Came for the Vegeta. Stayed for the cool thought out story.
I love the fact that Vegeta cares about his little brother.
Listened to the whole series last week.
Now rewatching the movie, absolutely fantastic 👌
Jiren: esentially, im letting both of you go for now
Goku and vegeta: thank kami he did not do it
Honestly? I love it! This is my first time seeing your stories, and I'm glad I'm here!
Best scenario hands down. Salad continues to deliver!
I know power levels weren't really mentioned, but if Turles' power hadn't changed all that much from his canon appearance, then before eating Earth's fruit, his power is stated to be 19,000, only marginally stronger than Vegeta was in canon. This is backed up by the fact that the few times we see Turles fight Goku, who supposedly has a power level of 30,000 in this movie, he isn't able to land a hit and is consistently running away.
After he eats the fruit, he is able to bloody and injure Goku in just three hits and a blast, showing that he's definitely much stronger. However, his power level is listed on kanzenshuu to be "Over 300,000"... which is hilariously wrong. Because Goku uses a Kaioken x20. His power is thus 600,000. Turles still completely toys with him; with ease overpowering Goku in his first attack and incapacitating him in just a couple hits. This means that Turles MUST bare minimum be around 720,000, about 20% stronger than Goku, because this is the sort of power level difference we see for characters to be so overpowering (such as Cui, 18k, vs Vegeta, 24k).
Thus, as the guide is clearly dead wrong and Turles actually got to a power of about 720,000... eating Earth's Tree of Might Fruit made him *_just under 38x stronger._* And Turles importantly only ate A SINGLE BITE of the fruit, not the whole thing.
I assume Vegeta's power is only about 2000, since he thought they would only even stand a chance as Great Apes. This still results in his power becoming 76,000 if we use the same multiplier. And then with a few days to solidify his power here, then the Wrathful Form to multiply it by ten... his power would be about 760k. Far, far more powerful that 1st Form Freeza, but not enough to overpower his second form. Which lies up very perfectly with Freeza believing he could defeat Vegeta easily if he could just fight him alone.
Long story short, I love how without even mentioning power levels, this actually follows with what those of us who do like numbers would expect. Very well done, especially the little addition of the Earthlings having the fruit to keep up.
Vegeta shouldn’t be weaker because his power level of 18,000 is what he was born with so he should be significantly stronger than this
@@LassanaJaiteh-p2eVegeta wasn't born at 18,000. Bardock was 10,000 approaching King Vegeta levels, and Vegeta said he surpassed his father as a child, so he couldn't be anymore.
I believe in the ¿¿dizenshu?? It says that Vegetas power was 18K in the saiyan saga.
@@FlxmeT mb I meant his power level as an adult is 18k
not kaio ken 20x in the original japanese its 10x and it makes sense because goku’s power level is only 30000 he cant learn 20x that fast
@@abdullah10951 Thats... a really good point.
Goku at his 90K Namek power level was sure that he could do x10. A goku with a third of that should be able to pull it off, but probably with the strain the x20 had on Goku V Frieza.
Love it! The rivals become buddies!
One hypotetic scenario that would be fun to imagine is "what if trunks go back in time to stop Lapis and Lazuli's kidnappings and trained them to be z-Fighters ", it would be fun to imagine what kind of Cyborgs/Androids Gero would come with.
I felt like he would still be stoic but able to put up with Goku’s bs more of the time
Hi Salad I Love all your vids and you inspired me to make dragon ball edits
Dude this is sick, very well done!
i can see good vegeta hugging his brother and him being all confused
April Fools Scenarios Are one of the best
when i saw vegeta i knew it was gonna be a good video
Wow how have I never actually thought of this concept
something about the ENTIRE ginyu force being off-screen'd is so funny to me
We makin it out of the frieza force with this one ‼️
Vegeta: i have no friends 😔
Goku:hey its me goku
Vegeta:i now have a friend
Canon Vegeta hearing this Vegeta talking to Krillin: LISTEN TO ME, KAKAROT! I’M USING HIS F*CKING NAME!
The base idea's neat, but I think it could have been more interesting if prince Vegeta was good for a difrent reason. I thought for a sec that you were going the route where he'd actually be "good" throughout his childhood on planet Vegeta, going on a rebelious streak towards his still rather cruel father. This could have been done due to something he'd have experienced in his formative years as a child that inspired him to be a just prince and to try and mend the ways of the Sayans, only to end up banished by both his people and a very annoyed father.
I feel like that struggle would be an amazing departure from "what if we only slightly tweaked the typical Dragon Ball story like every other what if?"
I think it wouldn't be that unlikely either. Seeing how the cannon Vegeta of today is a stark defender of the earth and does his very best to protect the ones he loves. Despite his bumpy road getting to this point, this only tells me that if he were to resist the influence of his race's upbringing as a child, he could very well be a force for good from the start. And we all know just how stubborn he can be, so it wouldn't be weird at all for him to rebel against the current way things are handled on Vegeta. He'd just need to have something impressive enough happen to make him WANT to try it for himself.
Oddly enough... I could see this version of Vegeta being MUCH stronger then the OC one. Seeing as this one would constantly be hounded by his own race and would probably end up on the bad side of Freeza pretty early on. Meaning, he'd be doing something the OC Vegeta didn't till he met Goku. And that would be train to be stronger. Let's not forget. Vegita was a genuine prodigy among the Sayan race. OC Vegeta let that get to his head. Not unlike Freeza. There wouldn't be any of that entitlement in THIS Vegeta.
Oh.... Also... Goku didn't "become good because he bumped his head", the bump basicly just hit the reset button on him. It was Gohan that used this opportunity to make him good.
There's no way in hell a simple case of amnesia alone would make any Sayan raised by other Sayans to become good. They'd just be taught to be ruthless jerks all over again.
Lol I love how this is basically "what if Vegeta was the MC" and I love it so, so so much
A remake of this what if after daima would be amazing
Salad I always like your what if scenarios it's fun and very interesting to watch and I like the content and seeing different characters having their own development and everything it's so cool and fascinating and I like the character art work it's so cool to see on your channel and it's just awesome and cool and fun and I like it 🙂
Alternative title: What happens when Vegeta is the main character and I'm all for it!
57:34 nice a Grape ape, or is it a great Grape, or a Grape Grape?
Would love to read a continuation of this timeline into GT maybe even some of the fanimations after GT
Frieza has unlocked a power beyond ultra instinct, becoming black transcended him beyond his limitations as a white lizard ...
how does he forget everything but remember how to disable the tracking that he somehow knows about
ma guy you actually gave me a heart attack i thought this sound effect was a rocket alarm 2:14:45
I like the theory that turles is Goku if he didn’t hit his head
I’m sad Gogeta just slaughtered the androids unprovoked. RIP Marron, you deserved the chance to see your badass father
As an april fools scenario, Kami not only can instantly travel from/to the lookout and other world, but can also teleport to any place on Earth he chooses and has always known the Mafuba, just decided not to use it and let Piccolo commit mass genocide.
@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg not exactly. He did show up for the 23rd budokai and used the Mafuuba there. But that was after watching Roshi and Tien using it. Showing up just from stopping someone from killing his other half doesn't show his rightous side. It shows his selfish side. But that is a constant with Kami and pretty much every character is these what ifs. They don't act like the original characters and they know techniques they haven't learned (like instant transmission Kami) and know others they shouldn't be capable of learning (like super kaioken or MUI Vegeta). This happens because viewers like to see a new scenario every couple of months, so some basic parts (some parts that are shared between all of SaladSaiyan's scenarios) are always the same. And when he notices how out of character they are or remembers to call them out himself, he just says they are "rules imposed for this scenario."
Also, remember Kami isn't "all knowing" either. He couldn't possible know if Vegeta was of a kind hearth after watching him for a couple of months. He wasn't even sure about Goku and he had watched him since he was 5. It would have been more in character to be wary of Vegeta, him being of a warrior race of psychopaths. Being able to ride nimbus isn't the only test of character Kami has needed in the past, especially if you know, it's your job to be guardian of Earth and you know the killer monkey alien knows how to fly.
@@sergiobricenosthe mafuba was created by mutito, roshi and shin's master
@@Eminster exactly. Hence why it makes no sense for kamisama to use it in this scenario at that point in time.
this vid was actually god tier, watched it anytime I got the chance and j finishing it up rn
Hold up. "I'm such a gemini"? The freak does that mean? What are you trying to say here? 0:49
Real nice video Salad. Keep up the super work!!
Best way to turn a bad guy good: *hit them in the head and they get amnesia!*
i gotta do that
You know it’s an April fools when Vegeta is taller than Goku
Vegeta looks friendly 🤣 while pulling that evil smirk 😆
I just found this series yesterday and watched it all yesterday lol
Good Vegeta Video 😎😎
Yknow, i would like it if in these "x turns good" stories, rather than making them do a 180° on their entire personality, they instead retained most of their personality. Like, example: cell turning good, we know that he kinda does his own thing, so imagine if he was sort of like an anti hero who would gladly absorb 17 and 18 again if he needed to, sort of like how frieza is still evillish evil despite teaming up with goku a few times already in dbs.
Frieza only did for his own goals, and hes still pure evil
2:50 Frieza: besides I may be evil but sending a young soldier with head trauma to a battle is to much. If something will happen to that monkey then at the very least he should know who he is and what he’s doing
goku and vegeta but both of them call eachother best buddies
I find it halarious that you just haddd to hit vegeta's head 2 times gotta give the child a realllll concusion
What if yamcha hit his head got addicted to training and continued to be relevant?
finally the full story, was waiting for that one
You know, this makes me wonder, what if Tarble was sent to earth?
I can't see Nappa and Raditz being able to get away from Vegeta with a power level that's more than two times theirs. Also, canonically Frieza only sent them to planets with weaker inhabitants, lower gravity and they weren't very keen on using “weird” techniques. To contrast, I love the scenario of Raditz and Nappa staying alive and getting stronger than before and for Turles to join them with the idea of them all fighting Frieza.
What if the Z-Fighters participated in the 24th world tournament? (Hercule never becomes popular, Videl and Gohan meet early...)
That would be so fun, everyone probably dies to buu tho
Would it have taken in place while they were in space or... during the Saiyan Saga? When did Hercule become the champ?
@@SoraDonaldGoofy99 I think some time before the Androids attacked/in the 3 years they trained for the androids arrival.
@@surytheworst805 Not really. If they participate in and win the tournament, the people of earth would still know of them during the Buu Saga. So if the Spirit Bomb is still needed, ttey would probably help.
I always say "another one of my favourites" or something along those lines but tbf idk if I can pick any favourites since I like them all for their own reasons. Some I like more than others though so I'll have to make a Top 5 at some point 🦍
Salad loves giving them wrath full in these what if's and i love it
42:01 Seems like the bromance isn't over
1:29:51 WHY DOES BOLMA HAVE A CIGHERET?!?!
“ Whis isn’t entirely sure, Whis isn’t entirely sure “
Turviz back at it again eating all the Christmas spirit.
I absolutely loved this concept of a story. Especially it focused more on vegeta as the main protagonist... It's peak 👌👌👌👌👌
In the tree of might saga, goku and vegeta could've gathered the dragon balls and used them to destroy the effects of the tree while giving turles a tree of might for free.
Imagine if the stories you made the characters became playable in dragon Ball Legends
Yes
49:15 MasakoX would be proud. Nappa being the voice of reason. 👌
Also, long haired boi and big bald boi become Super Saiyan. Always a W.
😂😂😂 =1:52 that fart tho🤣
nice little dude:D
One thing I will say... honestly I see Raditz actually being understanding about what Vegeta wanted to do right off the bat, even if Nappa didn't. The thing about Raditz is that he comes from a bloodline of [REMOVED BECAUSE UA-cam'S MODERATION ALGORITHM DOESN'T UNDERSTAND CONTEXT] saiyans as the majority of Saiyans would call it. Bardock with his code of honor and legitimate care for his people, and Gine with her kind heart and lack of the typical Saiyan battlelust. Also, remember that Raditz is a pragmatist and a coward. Because of both of these factors, I could easily see Raditz having a change of heart alongside Vegeta in this scenario, because 1. it ensures his survival and 2. he has the mental and emotional capacity to understand having a conscience, even if he doesn't listen to it half the time. I think he'd stick around out of practicality.
As for Nappa, I think you've got it spot-on with him. Even if he doesn't really understand what's going on, as the Prince's appointed bodyguard and caretaker he's loyal to Vegeta to a fault. I don't think he'd just abandon Vegeta.
Who would have thought that the best thing for Vegeta and all of universe 7 was for Vegeta to receive head trauma. Its a shame that Piccolo isn't created because King Piccolo is sealed away, and Fat Buu gets killed. But it's awesome to see that Raddits, Nappa and almost all of the future timeline characters are still alive. And that there's multiple God form characters rather than just Vegeta and Goku.
Alternative title: "What if Vegeta was a chill dude?"