Irish Fiddle Tutorial - Trebles
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2013
- This is a brief overview on trebles in Irish fiddle. This will probably be the most useful for fiddlers and violinists already familiar with the instrument and just starting to learn the Irish style.
Trebles are a common ornament, and when written out, look like two sixteenth notes and an eighth note. They help the fiddle mimic the sound of the pipes. This video goes through three places where trebles can fit in a tune. First, to dress up a boring quarter note, especially if it's on an open string. Second, to hide in between two eighth notes. And third, an "altered treble" can fill the place of a quarter note and sound a bit more like a roll.
sheet music for the reel: thesession.org/tunes/380
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It's extremely generous of you to share these short tutorials. I have played Irish fiddle for close to 10 years, but I learned all of my tunes "straight" and without the influence of other trad musicians to help acquire any real style. It's hard - and daunting, and embarrassing - to learn ornamentation so long after the fact. Your videos have been an incredible blessing! Thank you.
My favourites are 'Spootiskerry' and 'Willafjord'. I was told that the rhythm for Willafjord is to resemble "A piddee cheel ganning doon the pavement wi yn fit in the stank." Translated,'a small man walking with one foot on the sidewalk and the other in the gutter.' Shetland music has a real uniqueness about it.
A synonym of triplet then?
Thanks a lot Katie.
I never was very good on triplets or trebles.
A video on it is very helpful to master them.
I love Da Slockit Licht as well. And that description of Willafjord's rhythm is so charming!
Thanks so much for taking the time to post these helpful lessons, Katie! I've been working on Woody Guthrie's version of "The Sailor's Bonnet", (fiddling on the song done by the Great Kevin Burke!!), and between this lesson and your lesson on rolls, I think I've finally figured out some of the stuff Mr. Burke was doing on the fiddle. Now I've just got to study these two lessons for about a week and put some practice in to really get them down. Again, thanks SO much!!!!!
I'm Scots and this tune was one of the first I learned and it was to get an idea of these sort of grace note trebles and rolls. I understand this tune came from The Shetlands.
Oh!!!... That trick is very useful!!!... i'll try it... Thanks Katie!!! God bless you!!!
Excellent discussion and demonstration. It's a lifelong learning curve. Thank you.
Many thanks for the great tutorial here!! Very useful!! I'm about to apply it on Tam Lin, still have difficulties, though...
Thanks. So many wonderful tunes come from the Shetlands. Have you heard "Da Bride is a Bonnie Ting?" It's gorgeous.
I'm wantin' to learn the fiddle. Being of Scots-Irish decent and listening to that music and old souther folk music, it has driven me to want to do this.
Great tutorial. I’m getting good on note choices, but it’s time to step it up with ornamentation!
Very helpful! I've been wondering how to do treble versions 2 and 3; I can hear them on recordings but have been a little mystified up to this point on how to stick them in tunes. Thanks!
haha! that's bass-ackwards. :) you are truly blessed. AND YES, great point about bowing. It's important to prepare for whatever ornaments you're using by orienting the bow the right direction. You might want to slur an eighth note into a roll on an up-bow, or slur some notes in advance leading to a treble to land on a down bow. (Unless you're David).
0:20 [To loop Katie's gorgeous playing of the tune!]
Thank you so much! Your video explained so much to me.
AMAZING!!! OMG i loved it!!!
Thank you so much!!! This is so helpful!
if that works! also, the smoother trebles are more common in certain regions in Ireland, like Galway or Clare. The grittier trebles are more common up north where the playing starts to sound a bit more Scottish (in my inexpert opinion).
wonderful. thank you. you're my inspiration! i'm a beginner and i'm having a hard time figuring out where you're doing the treble and where the roll in both your tutorials. would there be any chance at all to get sheet music for rolls and trebles with T and R written above the notes?
Is the gritty one also known as a "burl", or is that something different? You have a very clear presenting style, thanks for great tutorials!
Great tutorials....is the Treble and the Bowed Triplet really the same?
It might be helpful to use a phrase to say along with the rhythm of a tune. If you can say "Generator" or another 4-syllable word along with the beat, it's a reel. Reels have simple meter. If you can say "Mexico" or another 3-syllable word along with the beat, it's a jig. Jigs have complex meter (the beats are subdivided into 3 eighth notes.)
Do you Katie or anyone else know a video where they teach rolls and cuts for the guitar in Irish trad?
I looked for one recently but found none.
Cheers.
Hi katie!!! I'm having a good learning with your videos... Thanks!!! But... I have a question... Could you explain the difference (Maybe trough video) between jigs and reels? Yes, i can hear the difference about the sound, but i'm talking about patterns, i can understand the rythm of a jig, but i can´t with the reels. Sorry for my poor english... greetings from México!
Funnily enough, I find doing trebles on the up-bow much easier than the down-bow. Definitely not gifted, just topsy-turvy. In both cases, the notes leading into the treble are important to ensure you are bowing in the right direction when the treble comes; those leading notes may need to be slurred. Anyway, great tutorial :)
How many years of practice has it taken you to get to where you are? Im thinking about starting fiddle pretty late in life. Ty
I forgot to mention Da Slockit Licht, by Tom Anderson, nearest translation 'The Extinguished Light' about the depopulation of his birthplace. Although a fairly simple tune, most musicians either play it slightly too fast to try to keep the rhythmic flow or miss the Shetland rhythm thing and it ends up more classical than it should. Just wondering how do you feel about Strathspeys, Scots fiddlers love them, every other tradition seems to be a bit baffled by them?
We were taught Humpity Dumpity. A trick I still use today.
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