Funny how you can feel the age creeping in on you. I remember vividly when the various (Hifi) magazines were lifting the veil from CVC apperance onto the market. It really was the smallest in the world and seemed pretty impossible. But then again, it came from Japan so you did expect them from their innovative nature to bring awestriking devices into the world. Heck, the Seiko TV-Watch came from Japan. The Casio SL800 creditcard sized calculator likewise.
A nice tour of some formats that we do not see all that often, such as the Technicolor CVC and Micro MV. VHS-C/S-VHS-C seemed to be fairly common here in the US for a while, always disliked it.
It’s a pity you didn’t have a large size D1, D2, D6 or DCT 3/4 inch cassette to compare that mmv one to. Or even one of the largest 2 inch quad tapes on a 14 inch spool which the AVR1 could take. Interesting to see your two boys. Have you seen the videos on UA-cam of a man from somewhere in Central Europe I think. Working on an Ampex quad machine, VR2000 I think. There’s one of him installing a mk 1 Editec in the machine. He has a son somewhere between yours in age. Not many little boys get to play with an Ampex Machine! I bought a micro mv camera recently, a DCR IP-7E, I was surprised at how sophisticated and how well built it is, it even has a colour viewfinder, which my DVCAM camera doesn’t. I suspect that they were very expensive when new. It didn’t come with the digital transfer software, so I also had to take s-video out, into my DSR 2000P DVCAM deck, very useful machine for converting between various video and audio signal formats, as well as recording and playing tapes. Considering its size, the mmv quality isn’t bad.
Three boys, count them! Yes I think I have seen the Ampex Quad chap. I compared the micromv tape to the largest video cassette I support, also of course they are both Sony and digital formats so there's a nice comparison. I have a D1 tape here but alas no machine yet. This evening I have my head in a broken DVCPRO deck, it seems to have a cassette carriage fault. I feel another UA-cam video coming on...
@@video99couk I have five professional edit recorders, DVCAM, DVCPRO 50, Betacam SP, Digital Betacam and U-Matic SP. In the last few weeks four of them have developed faults. with two of them I know what the problem is, and can fix it myself when I find time, but the Betacams will have to go in to be serviced. I paid £25 each for them, so I don't mind paying to have them fixed, but I don't drive, and they're really too heavy to move by bus. I'll have to try to find somebody who can take them by car for me. The SP is a BTS branded version of the Sony BVU75-P and very heavy. I also have a Sony BVX 10P component colour corrector which has a minor problem, but I think I can fix that myself. No problems for ages, then everything goes wrong at the same time. I've been moving things around a lot recently, up and down lots of steps, which probably hasn't helped.
Would that CVC 1/4inch tape work on a reel to reel ? I know it would be realy short and pointless, Just curious about the sound quality. That last tape you showed was so cute. Can't you use audio splicing tape on it ? It's a lot thinner.
CVC tape might work on an open reel recorder, I've never tried it and it would be a bit of a faff to set up. I do now have a reel of audio splicing tape but I think it's still too thick to run through a machine. Next time I splice one, I will try it.
It's fiddly, especially with Maxell branded tapes. But some players don't mind if you don't have the lock mechanism and spring in there, so it may not be worth the trouble. If playing back on a camcorder, then it's not necessary. However some bigger 8mm decks won't accept a tape with this spring missing.
video99.co.uk Yeah, but the gate keeps falling over. I’m afraid when I put the tape into a player or camcorder, it will fall open again and expose all of the tape.
@@MrJonguy45 It should be OK in a camcorder. However something like an EV-S9000E deck will probably not take the tape in. When taking out of a camcorder, you may have to "jiggle" the tape a little to get the front to close fully before extracting it.
I have always hated the VHS-C format however I have some family movies on the format however 2 of the tapes I have plays like this photos.app.goo.gl/kKoxrDifX2G75Jsk6 as you can see in the video the movie doesnt have any color other then black and white. I have tried playing them on a couple of diffrent vcrs however the issue still remained do you know what is causing that issue?
Yes. The problem is either one of two things. Either you recorded it in a camcorder where the head was off track, which will cause problems playing it in other players. Or you simply recorded it in a camcorder that does not work well with other players. It is actually a pretty common thing. Turns out that not all players play at the same speeds, and will actually cause errors when playing back on other players. It is usually not a problem with SP recording, but the problems usually happen when you record a5t other speeds. For example, my brother recorded about 10 tapes with an old RCA VHS-C camcorder. All the recordings in SP play perfect on every other player, but in between recordings he would change settings and recording speeds. So one tape may start out with a perfect SP recording, then the next video on the same exact tape will be in black and white, then the next video with just flicker, then the next video he shot will be back to perfect. There will be four or five recordings on each tape, and some will play perfect, and some will not. The only way to get all of them to play perfect is in the same model RCA camcorder. I have yet to find a VCR or camcorder they will play correctly in. But again, I know what the problem is, he simply changed settings and recording speeds in between recordings, and camcorders and VCRs are known not to play well together. It is actually no different with VCR recordings, because depending on the recording speed, tapes will not play well in other VCRs. As I said, some of his recordings are in black and white as well, and oddly the speed they were recorded in conflicts so much with the VCR I have, that the TV reports it as being a PAL recording, even though it is an NTSC tape and was recorded with an NTSC camcorder. I am guessing it is a speed problem. The head could've been off track, but the speed is more likely. If the recordings are sharp and play well, just colorize them. You can find programs that colorize black and white videos.
Cvc was utter rubbish. The picture quality when it worked was not bad but my equipment failed and no one in the UK would fix it under warranty or chargeable. The problem was it was unreliable and sold as a domestic system in US and corporate in the UK at 2 to 3 times the price. Complete waste of my money.
where is cartivision? it’s from 1972 and i’ve been only exposed to jake paul’s TERRIBLE song, cartier vision. i didn’t come for a rambling british boomer who stretches talking about small VCs to 40 minutes.
Funny how you can feel the age creeping in on you. I remember vividly when the various (Hifi) magazines were lifting the veil from CVC apperance onto the market. It really was the smallest in the world and seemed pretty impossible.
But then again, it came from Japan so you did expect them from their innovative nature to bring awestriking devices into the world. Heck, the Seiko TV-Watch came from Japan. The Casio SL800 creditcard sized calculator likewise.
This video is absolutely fascinating!
This is pretty unique. Great stuff, thanks.
A nice tour of some formats that we do not see all that often, such as the Technicolor CVC and Micro MV. VHS-C/S-VHS-C seemed to be fairly common here in the US for a while, always disliked it.
It’s a pity you didn’t have a large size D1, D2, D6 or DCT 3/4 inch cassette to compare that mmv one to. Or even one of the largest 2 inch quad tapes on a 14 inch spool which the AVR1 could take.
Interesting to see your two boys. Have you seen the videos on UA-cam of a man from somewhere in Central Europe I think. Working on an Ampex quad machine, VR2000 I think. There’s one of him installing a mk 1 Editec in the machine. He has a son somewhere between yours in age. Not many little boys get to play with an Ampex Machine!
I bought a micro mv camera recently, a DCR IP-7E, I was surprised at how sophisticated and how well built it is, it even has a colour viewfinder, which my DVCAM camera doesn’t. I suspect that they were very expensive when new. It didn’t come with the digital transfer software, so I also had to take s-video out, into my DSR 2000P DVCAM deck, very useful machine for converting between various video and audio signal formats, as well as recording and playing tapes. Considering its size, the mmv quality isn’t bad.
Three boys, count them! Yes I think I have seen the Ampex Quad chap. I compared the micromv tape to the largest video cassette I support, also of course they are both Sony and digital formats so there's a nice comparison. I have a D1 tape here but alas no machine yet.
This evening I have my head in a broken DVCPRO deck, it seems to have a cassette carriage fault. I feel another UA-cam video coming on...
@@video99couk
I have five professional edit recorders, DVCAM, DVCPRO 50, Betacam SP, Digital Betacam and U-Matic SP. In the last few weeks four of them have developed faults. with two of them I know what the problem is, and can fix it myself when I find time, but the Betacams will have to go in to be serviced. I paid £25 each for them, so I don't mind paying to have them fixed, but I don't drive, and they're really too heavy to move by bus. I'll have to try to find somebody who can take them by car for me. The SP is a BTS branded version of the Sony BVU75-P and very heavy.
I also have a Sony BVX 10P component colour corrector which has a minor problem, but I think I can fix that myself.
No problems for ages, then everything goes wrong at the same time. I've been moving things around a lot recently, up and down lots of steps, which probably hasn't helped.
@@srfurley *BVW-75P
Would that CVC 1/4inch tape work on a reel to reel ? I know it would be realy short and pointless, Just curious about the sound quality.
That last tape you showed was so cute. Can't you use audio splicing tape on it ? It's a lot thinner.
CVC tape might work on an open reel recorder, I've never tried it and it would be a bit of a faff to set up.
I do now have a reel of audio splicing tape but I think it's still too thick to run through a machine. Next time I splice one, I will try it.
About that VHS-C cassette. What do you mean by "unplayable"?
How do you get the lock mechanism of an 8mm tape back into place if it falls out?
It's fiddly, especially with Maxell branded tapes. But some players don't mind if you don't have the lock mechanism and spring in there, so it may not be worth the trouble. If playing back on a camcorder, then it's not necessary. However some bigger 8mm decks won't accept a tape with this spring missing.
video99.co.uk Yeah, but the gate keeps falling over. I’m afraid when I put the tape into a player or camcorder, it will fall open again and expose all of the tape.
@@MrJonguy45 It should be OK in a camcorder. However something like an EV-S9000E deck will probably not take the tape in. When taking out of a camcorder, you may have to "jiggle" the tape a little to get the front to close fully before extracting it.
What model is the mini dv you showed at 40:20?
Hi. Ok very good TANKS for this video
I have always hated the VHS-C format however I have some family movies on the format however 2 of the tapes I have plays like this photos.app.goo.gl/kKoxrDifX2G75Jsk6 as you can see in the video the movie doesnt have any color other then black and white. I have tried playing them on a couple of diffrent vcrs however the issue still remained do you know what is causing that issue?
Yes. The problem is either one of two things. Either you recorded it in a camcorder where the head was off track, which will cause problems playing it in other players. Or you simply recorded it in a camcorder that does not work well with other players. It is actually a pretty common thing. Turns out that not all players play at the same speeds, and will actually cause errors when playing back on other players. It is usually not a problem with SP recording, but the problems usually happen when you record a5t other speeds. For example, my brother recorded about 10 tapes with an old RCA VHS-C camcorder. All the recordings in SP play perfect on every other player, but in between recordings he would change settings and recording speeds. So one tape may start out with a perfect SP recording, then the next video on the same exact tape will be in black and white, then the next video with just flicker, then the next video he shot will be back to perfect. There will be four or five recordings on each tape, and some will play perfect, and some will not. The only way to get all of them to play perfect is in the same model RCA camcorder. I have yet to find a VCR or camcorder they will play correctly in. But again, I know what the problem is, he simply changed settings and recording speeds in between recordings, and camcorders and VCRs are known not to play well together. It is actually no different with VCR recordings, because depending on the recording speed, tapes will not play well in other VCRs. As I said, some of his recordings are in black and white as well, and oddly the speed they were recorded in conflicts so much with the VCR I have, that the TV reports it as being a PAL recording, even though it is an NTSC tape and was recorded with an NTSC camcorder. I am guessing it is a speed problem. The head could've been off track, but the speed is more likely. If the recordings are sharp and play well, just colorize them. You can find programs that colorize black and white videos.
Cvc was utter rubbish. The picture quality when it worked was not bad but my equipment failed and no one in the UK would fix it under warranty or chargeable. The problem was it was unreliable and sold as a domestic system in US and corporate in the UK at 2 to 3 times the price. Complete waste of my money.
It was unreliable, true. By the time the problems were sorted (Grundig VP100 was better) it was too late to save the format.
It was unreliable, true. By the time the problems were sorted (Grundig VP100 was better) it was too late to save the format.
where is cartivision? it’s from 1972 and i’ve been only exposed to jake paul’s TERRIBLE song, cartier vision.
i didn’t come for a rambling british boomer who stretches talking about small VCs to 40 minutes.
It's about SMALL cassettes, not large ones. The clue is in the title.