The fact that there were people on Reddit who, in spite of mounting evidence of the contrary, still insisted that that daycare center had something sketchy going on simply because they couldn't fathom the idea that they may have been wrong and would rather deny the obvious just to avoid having to admit to themselves that they were incorrect in their witch hunt is really disconcerting
Every site has it's issue, while reddit's userbase on average is mostly normal, it's extremes are pretty extreme. Not as bad as that site with the 4-leaf clover.
It’s Reddit, literally most of my interactions disagreeing with redditors would be being downvoted into oblivion while being bombbared with remarks to make themselves sound smarter while the person I’m arguing with is stubborn and sticking to his guns even if the evidence is against him, in other words it’s full of stubborn grown men who want to be right once in their life and paint the other as ignorant when it’s the other way around.
Last one makes me sick that these people can't be prosecuted, they harrassed a grieving family, there should be consequence, fucking sick. Worst part is that most of them probably don't even feel remorse, just treat it as an investigation that didn't go their way.
Suing for defamation in the US is extremely difficult. You need to prove deliberately lying, malice and damage sustained. That was one or two of them possible to prove.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting to cry at a video by Wavywebsurf but holy shit "She just kept answering out of fear of missing a call from her brother." sent me over the edge. I'm guessing it's because it reminded me that this is a real situation that actually happened to somebody and not just a funny "we did it reddit" video.
The quote by Mike Tyson applies perfectly here: " “Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”
The fact they were analyzing and scrutinizing the details of the room, but didn’t think to find his other UA-cam channels says a lot about Reddit detectives.
I remember finding that video around 2012-2013ish, and it was incredibly easy to find his other videos from there. If, I remember correctly, there was already a lengthy discussion in the comments about how the video was fake. I have no idea how they managed to screw up so badly.
The thing that has always made me irrationally angry about internet vigilantes is that unlike detectives or private detectives most times they don't investigate more than one possibility. They go set on what they believe and only look into stuff supporting that and then their first instinct is to post it online to spread rumors to more moron amateurs instead of keep it private and send it to the right authorities or the family if they really think they found something. It's all about looking smart and cool to them, not justice or the victims.
Every day care that I've ever seen has had the windows covered, assumedly because parents don't want randos spying on their kids. It's insane that anyone would think that covered day care windows are a sure sign that something nefarious is going on
That's interesting because there is a daycare in my small town who has covered windows but they let the kids play outside, and everytime I have to walk by that daycare all of the kids line up against the fence to stare at me walk down the street. I wish they had a privacy fence for the sake of everyone thats not the kids lmao.
A day care I worked at had special glass so the kids could see out, but nobody could see in. It still worried me that strangers would try and look in regardless.
I've seen this shit happen in my town. A guys truck broke down outside an elementary school and he was waiting for a tow truck. So what did people do? They started spreading rumors online that he was a child predator and outside the school. People talking about going there to kick his ass, people calling the police, people calling the school. In the end, the school had to send home a letter with every single child telling the parents to stop gossiping like 12 year old girls and to not spread rumors. It embarrassed the entire town.
@@daisyviluck7932 what good is their embarassment after the fact, when their actions could ruin somebody's life simply because these people couldn't be bothered to actually think like adults.
If I had an accusation for every parent I saw waiting outside the school on their car, my town would be full of predators! On the other hand, I remember reading a notice about a man who was seen giving candy away. It's behaviors like these which are red flags and should be addressed. People must not jump to conclusions, at least not until these red flags are noticed: repeated sighting of the unknown individual, attempts of interaction, suspicious individual taking pictures...
I genuinely started laughing at about 6:30. I know it’s a super fucked up story but Reddit detectives going “Look! This mall has stores that are a staple of nearly every mall in the entire country!” as evidence is hilarious
I went to college with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. The FBI moved so fast. They suspected it was him the first day. My college was shut down that day and had helicopters flying over it. They just didn't announce him as a suspect immediately because it would have been incredibly irresponsible because of the damage they would have done to him if they were wrong.
Idk, saying that JCPenney and Kay Jewelers being in a mall is " circumstantial evidence" is A pretty big reach considering they are probably two of the most common stores that you'll see in any mall in America. Even like random tiny town malls you will likely see those two stores together
The Sunil Tripathi story actually made me cry. In all these years, I'd never known the sister was picking up calls by these degenerates in the hopes it was her brother. Mobbed armchair detectives, especially social media ones, are disgusting and vile people.
My first thought was that it could've been closed or on break or something. Creepy vibe from the front but that's just the window placement. Thinking about it, it probably looks fun to kids though. It's on that uncanny valley line.
It's the other way around most of the time. They are biased towards women. I hate that r/amitheasshole subreddit, like why do people feel the need to tell their personal business they should be working out between them and their spouses to complete strangers with the worst marriage advices. We should disable that subreddit.
@@mijaroprime9509 that subreddit is for weak insecure men, or evil women, there is no in between. Saw a girl that said she wanted to break up with her bf after she lost weight and thought she could "do better" and OF COURSE the reddit simps SIMPED.
@@telepathickitten4653 I mean your friends are only going to mostly be biased onto your side and not really look at it with objective lenses. That's why people turn to advice forums or therapists etc. Rather than go to their yes man who will just agree blindly with everything.
Also Kay jewelers and JCPenny’s?? The two most COMMONLY found shops and anchor stores found in American malls?? 😭 how was that a bridge of evidence for them lol
@@ricezillas7012 When the internet detectives have the critical thinking skills of tube worms anything and everything counts as evidence. It doesn't need to make sense, it just needs to "feel right".
Honestly, even if Sunil really was one of the bombers, what did those "investigators" hope to accomplish by harassing his family? " Oh you were related to a maniac? Well then that means you're just as bad!" God I hate Reddit at times.
Reminds me of that South Park episode "Snuke" where a new Muslim kid comes to South Park Elementary, on the same day that a Hillary Clinton rally is taking place in South Park. Cartman automatically assumes that the new Muslim kid is going to commit an act of terrorism at the rally and goes on to harass the kid's parents, trying to figure out what they plan to do at the Hillary Clinton event. But in the episode, it is revealed that there was in fact going to be a terrorist attack via a "nuke inside Hillary Clinton's 'snizz' (vagina) called a 'Snuke'", but not by the Muslim family, but by a Russian man who is working for the British. The episode's point is supposed to be "It's ignorant to think that Muslims would only commit terrorist attacks against America because most countries in the world hate the United States, not just the middle East. One of my favorite episodes tbh
I wouldn't call the "Hey Walter" thing a hoax. They are actors, directors, and writers. This wasn't meant to stir up bullsh*t like a hoax. They made several videos and were trying to get attention from Hollywood types. It was an honest misunderstanding and thank God the authorities didn't overreact to the tip.
The female actors acting was so realistic IMO i thought it was real at first. But i trusted my gut to believe it was fake despite the convincing acting. The redditors didn’t even try proving it as fake first, they jumped the gun
True, however it was their screwup for not making a disclaimer and when the police investigated the accusation they denied responsibility which only just wasted their time and resources
In Russia people like me are called "Moralphages", but I think that videos like "Hi Walter" aren't good. Not gonna lie, but inhumanity, ruthlessness, cruelty, and atrocity existing in real world are enough for me. I understand the poor girl's mother perfectly. It's really terrible and disgusting that there are some people that can do this cruelty just for fun. I'm so tired of feeling like my head is being chainsawn. Sorry if I'm too "fluffy" for you.
The day care could have been solved by simply knocking on the door, saying "i'm looking at daycares for my kid, do you have any spaces available?" even if they say they are at capacity at the moment, i'm sure if they said "is it ok if i look inside and get an application for a waiting list?" they'd have solved it in minutes.
Well they were convinced it was a super secret spy building or something worse, like a movie they can't go walking into the lions jaws and knock on there and enter enemy territory, that would be suicide, obviously. Anways that's what they prolly thought lmao idk
I actually used to live less than a block from that daycare and I saw kids and their parents going in there every day on my way to work. It was just baffling that that thread on reddit even happened. Like I pretty much doubt any of those people that claimed they lived by it actually did and just made all of that up.
The Tripathi story has a little bit of everything; racial profiling, human tragedy, egotistical neckbeards, and no happy ending. Congratulations reddit on being less than worthless.
The fact that anyone thought the Hi Walter video was real is so ridiculous to me. The acting from the guy clearly felt like a skit; when I first saw the video without context I just thought, “huh, what an unnerving skit”, not, “OMG THIS WOMAN WAS KIDNAPPED FOR REAL WTF?!?”. Surprised that none of the “detectives” suspected that it was another creepy ARG-type video since they’re all over the place and have existed forever.
Yes and no, you are looking at it with 2022 glasses, and that mindset is shaped by falling for many hoaxes like this. Back in 2009 it was normal to believe those kinds of videos, stuff like boogie2988 and boxxy, playing characters in a UA-cam video was still a strange thing.
@@ShadowsDML That video only started getting traction around 2016-2017 (Wavy even mentions it in this video). I saw it sometime around then when people were talking about it. I could tell it was a hoax from the start.
@@tidepodpadthai2633 you'd be surprised honestly. I remember there was a story of a man who kidnapped a few women and killed them and he posted selfie of himself with pieces of the corpses online. I don't remember much about it, it was a long time ago I saw this.
I felt so sad for Sunil's family. They lived 3 different trauma in the short term. Firstly, their son was missing, secondly, the people accused their son as a bomber, thirdly, they learned that Sunil had committed suicide. 🥺
Blair Witch was also small project by a group of film students and they publicly made it look like the cast had actually gone missing. It's now a celebrated film. The Hi Walter vid didn't make any reference to an actual missing person case, Reddit did, and they get questioned by police and dubbed sickos. Pretty fucked up.
Yeah, it’s fucked up how the media pointed fingers at them and INSISTED that their video was about Kayla, then demonised them just for breaking the fake narrative.
> they get questioned by police Gonna go against the flow here, but I see nothing wrong about that. If you make a mistification about such a grim topic, you should be ready for it to backfire.
@@ChildrenOfRadiation they're not trying to say it's wrong. He stated an example before this where a group of other people did something similar and were praised for it. Meanwhile, the hi Walter vid was demonized by the media and reddit and they were called sick people. It's just a case where the people involved were treated unfairly.
I don't think that's fair. Art is an expression, and the 'Hi Walter' video wasn't meant to hurt or insult anyone. Like the man said, is John Carpenter a maniac? No. He's an artist.
The "Hi Walter" one still gets me. Not only did Reddit screw the pooch on it, but the media did them even dirtier. It was a case of bad coincidence that ruined a creative team that wanted to make simple fictional horror. Wild.
also the guy in the video was obviously acting he was not a good actor lol, the girl was convincing but yeah totally fake. also i cant believe people tried to say the girl in the video looked like the missing girl, there were like 5 pixels you couldnt see what she looked like at all
I could see enough similarities for it to be investigated further though. I mean, I don't agree with some of the things that happened, but I definitely would have notified the police in the area about the video for them to look into. The media finding who he was and leaking his info was a bad deal though.
That day care story was fucking weird. Imagine being a kid at the daycare and some weird neck beard starts peeling and taking pictures of the building and the inside through the windows.
The last one reminds me of a case where a father was accused of killing his child (I can't remember who it was) and having people harrass and accuse him for years while he was grieving. Then 5 years later a man they were sure did it confessed and suddenly everyone was so apologetic. This is what a lot of people don't get; these are real people not "cases" and you don't know them at all. What you're looking at is text on a paper or website article and not the evidence. This man suffered for years with people thinking he did something he didn't do while police had their suspicions about this other man but just couldn't confirm it publicly until he confessed. Curiosity and a sense of justice are not bad things but redditors seem to forget that only evidence can confirm it. Until you have 100% proof you should never ever treat that as the real truth.
@@rachiegoodman possibly but I think most of it was on Facebook through his friends and locals that knew him. They were all posting and commenting about it publicly and then when he was found innocent they tried to apologize acting like they didn't mean it. If I Remember the name I'll come back and let you know
Reditors really are special kids. That Sunil case.... The chin was compeltely different, 1 - Sunill had a chin in line with his nose, the bomber hada pointed forward chin 2 - You can see from under the cap (and confirmed on later photos) that the bomber had curlied hair, even though it was a month later, sunil couldn't have that hair 3 - the skin color is completely different! The bomber was pale white, sunil was ... well.. indian brown
- 10:23 She's blaming the wrong people. Patrick made a horror-movie type of video and there's nothing wrong with, she can't blame them for making a scary-movie video "just for fun". He never said it was her daughter, he never tried to claim it was or to troll her. She should be blaming the "Internet sleuths" who got her hopes up and mislead her. 😒 - 12:25 Did it occur to them at all that maybe it was a daycare that went out of business a while ago? 🤨 Have they never seen countless businesses and buildings sitting unused for years because it's more expensive to do anything with them than to just leave them idle? 🤦 - 14:19 People were disappointed that it _wasn't_ something bad? 🙄 - 14:28 I'm surprised people's tinfoil hats didn't just say those kids were decoys they sent there to sit around for a bit specifically to get the "Internet sleuths" off their backs after they saw the attention they were getting. 😒
It was a UA-cam video and no one knew it was fake. There are real victims out there, real families looking for their loved ones. He made it to be "intriguing" he said. He wanted people to believe it was real, that he truely had kidnapped and assaulted someone's loved one. He also only ever addressed it when he was questioned by the police. Surely he would've known the impact this was having, there would've been UA-cam comments and shit. He chose to say nothing and let the family believe it was their missing daughter. It wasn't a movie. He wasn't a film maker. He's a fucking idiot.
In the mother's defense, I can't blame her for that reaction, even if I don't agree with it. I can't even fathom what it must be like to have a missing child, and then one day have someone show a video like that of a girl (who's really just an actress) who resembles my missing kid, asking if it's the same person. I blame the Redditors for dragging a grieving parent into their stupid armchair sleuthing and ripping open those wounds for her with no solid evidence whatsoever. Imagine how traumatizing that must've been for her to see. Someone who's experienced a loss like that probably doesn't watch horror movies about missing/kidnapped people because it's a painful reminder of their own, very real experience.
That Boston bombing subreddit just goes to show that way too many people want to be the hero that save the day without even thinking about possible consequences
@@BlueRGuy I’ve read a lot of tropes in the books that I’ve read at home. Frankly, Constant Hero Syndrome (as this kind of black and white thinking is known in tv tropes, the net’s main website for nerds) is not allowable (at best) in public for a reason; a lot of humans think of themselves being the hero without thinking about consequences whatsoever.
@@Jakey4000 right, like the only thing that look somewhat similar is the chin and nose. Nothing else looks the same. His hair doesn’t even look like it’d grow the same way as the actual bomber’s and his cheek bone structure is completely different. They just had confirmation bias with what they thought they saw
Story 3 is awful, the pain of losing your child and then the pain of knowing he didn’t commit that crime and yet the world can only see that- disgusting.
I like how this channel talks about interesting internet topics we have all wondered about, and how it's mostly lighthearted and casual without unecessary drama added. These videos are honestly something to look forward to.
Leave it to a Redditor to be SO unaware that they think the daycare, that they are spying on, and taking pictures of kids without their knowledge, is the thing that is creepy lmfao
Anyone else not surprised that Redditors got up in a frenzy about a daycare “looking sus” and had their bubbles burst by a 4chan guy ACTUALLY investigating it?
Lmao yeah that’s hilarious but any normal individual would just go there knock and say that they are looking for a daycare for a child in their family whether it be daughter, sister whatever, then you’d ask to be shown around inside and for an application form to fill out, bam done. That is what every normal person would do who does not spend too much time online
I love how their “evidence” was one guy with an outside photo of the place and 5 anecdotes from random people and they somehow talked themselves into thinking it was a giant conspiracy
The guy in Hi Walter is a really nice dude who was a fan of horror stuff. I've spoken to him and even played RE7 with him before. The man is great at comedic timing. Literally just busted out the Hi Walter voice during the opening when you find Mia.
The last case just boggles my mind. Why would they think that this missing kid had something to do with the bombings? Did reddit users just go through missing person files looking for someone that matched the pictures of the suspects? surely there are a lot of young men that resemble the bombers in appearance. So, why Sunil? It's just fucked up, man. Rest in Peace, Sunil.
Seems like most of them were total racists or at the least xenophobes. They might argue that they were right to be racist towards the suspects because the actual guys were of a foreign background but they decided it had to have been people with foreign backgrounds before the news even came out with pictures of them. The suspects could have easily been any white right-wing extremist out there as well. There have been 267 right-wing attacks/plots since 2015 alone resulting in 91 fatalities. So many crazy ass people out there that come in all races and backgrounds.
So, why Sunil? Probably race . He was an Indian , and reddit can get extremely racist . r/greentext and r/meme depending on the time of the day targets most South & South East Asians pretty hard. Blacks used to be on the list too , and still does ... but after BLM movement its died down a lot. If you disapprove , they'll gaslight you by saying "why so serious" , "cope or seethe" etc .
They definitely targeted him because he was Brown/Indian. Reddit hates South Asians and refuses to admit it despite how obvious their collective hatred of Brown people is
I never understood how anyone could think the Hi, Walter vid was real. Everything about it screams fake. There's the guy's obviously fake tone and then there's the fact that the girl doesn't start voicing anything until he opens the door, as if she's starting on cue.
have you heard the story of genius horror special effects guru RÉMY COUTURE, master craftsman who was sued in court for corruption of the masses and won the case, in canada in the 2010s??
This is gonna sound weird but I gotta hand it to the girl for putting her heart into that scream at the end, if you just heard the audio of that it'd probably be more convincing someone was in danger. That being said yeah the dude's stilted acting should've given it away
Redditors: One of the bombers is a curly haired white man!?Well he looks just like this tan indian man with short hair who went missing a month ago, meaning he'd have no time to grow out his hair to that length but since I want it to be him, it is him.
One theme I noticed with these "Reddit detectives" is that they always jump to an assumption of guilt even when they have reasons to be doubtful or suspicious. Like they don't even take the time to do their due diligence before going straight to leaving harassing phone calls. But then again, these are "neckbeard detectives" after all. The closest they ever came to solving a major case was completing L.A. Noire on the PS3.
And here’s the thing. There are people that legitimately want that kind of mindset in our judicial system. They want guilty until proven innocent, and even then it will likely not be enough to be set free. These people are willing to end the lives of 100 men, just so they can catch the one shoplifter that stole a DVD player from a Walgreens on the corner of Main St and Kentucky Ave back in ‘09.
At least with 4chan they actually take investigating somewhat seriously. What other website you know that used camera footage just to track a guy who had his face covered who smacked someone with a bike lock
Something similar to these happened with the subreddit about the investigation of Gabby Petito's death. It had like 20 mods who went on power trips demanding to know how much each of them were contributing, to the point where some demanded to have everyone else on the team log their sleep so they could track how much time each member was spending on the "investigation". They genuinely thought that they could do better than the current investigators by just Googling shit lmao
they're a buncha power hungry crazys. Which is why subreddits always have a long list of rules and no-life moderators. Similar to over-zealous security guards that become cops.
@@swilson5320 Yeah, that happens a lot on posts with less than a thousand upvotes most of the time. The nut jobs are always the first to reply in these posts.
I love the scientific method, you know: Make an observation, form a hypothesis, and try to prove it at all costs with confirmation bias. What could go wrong?
How do you enforce it though? Even if someone commented, "I called this place" and detailed what they did, I doubt anyone could be convicted for it. The people involved all live in different states with different laws. Too much of a mess and hard to prove anything
I understand the feeling, but it’s not a good idea to make laws over this (there are laws about harassment, trespassing, etc.). If anything, one way to deal with it could be to mock them as a way to “punish” them and deter others with videos like this or comments, etc. Eventually, over time, from this treatment, more people will wake up and realize there’s more harm than good done. It should lead to, if they think they “cracked the case” they will give their information to the professionals to deal with it.
Nah. That'd be hard to enforce and could lead to some dangerous outcomes. For particularly aggressive/persistent individuals, we already have laws for that but one of the issues with all forms of "internet justicing" is that it's a collective harassment. If you're tweeting at or commenting on some guy's video because you think they're a piece of shit and suddenly you're charged with a crime bc it turns out that guy wasn't a piece of shit and your tweet or comment was considered harassment because you weren't considering that literally thousands of other people did the exact same thing, I'm sure you'd consider that an unfair ruling. Reddit detectives aren't any different than that. Just replace the moral/ethical high that most modern internet which hunters get with an intellectual high. These are shitty situations but it's not a great practice to mobilize the law to rid the world of every shitty situation.
The "Hi Walter" clip, to me, was obviously a skit (and now i know it was a hoax as well). It may have been in poor taste, but I don't think there was anything intentionally sinister about it. He just seems to have a very dark sense of humor and he seemed to be really into horror hoaxes. I feel so terribly for Kayla Berg's family. But I really do think he had no idea about the Kayla Berg case. It was an unfortunate, sad, coincidence.
It wasn't a hoax, its a short horror film. Did you NOT watch the same video I just did? They made a ton of mini movies with the same people. That's not a hoax. Just because people are retarded to think a serial killer put a snuff film on YT doesn't mean that these people did anything wrong. Like saying the movie Hostel might have had real people getting killed. smh
And the thing about the hoax is it's _believable._ Normal people will fall for this (myself somewhat included). Internet vigilantes run wild. And no one gets hurt except the victims. This kind of behavior leads to dangerous dichotomies.
Imagine if he just wanted to make his own Internet mystery and wrote the story himself, like, ouch. Hey at least now u know the girl u hired or the girl that helped u was a good actress and u guys did a pretty good job at freaking people out
@@kaylons Do you have similar feelings about the original War of The World's radio broadcast? I think at some point we can't blame the artist for actually making truely impactful art. I could argue that the algorithms that take advantage of social idea contagions are even more to blame than the talented/disturbing actors for this case. Thinking, this video would have stayed within savvy horror circles if it wasn't for the UA-cam algorithm being so aggressive and tangential. Edit* This caffinated reply of mine is totally moot if you meant the vigilanties were the ones being irresponsible or despicable. Sorry
You know there's also a daycare on my way to work that I never see anyone go in or out of but I always assumed it was just closed down. Why do people go to the craziest assumptions?
There's a daycare very similar like that in my old city, bright colors (this one is hot pink), kids aren't outside, blinds on the windows. It's a daycare in the hood. They're keeping their kids safe given the area. Where I was born, wasn't in a big-ish city, so it does look "weird" at first but given the context it is perfectly logical. The Utah daycare also looks urban. God forbid we paint our buildings fun colors and try to keep weird peepers out of the windows *ahem*
I still can’t believe people actually thought Sunil looked liked him. The noses are complete different shape, the actual criminal had curly hair, and Sunil had a mole on his left cheek, finally his jawline is a lot more sharp. Like cmon people just look with your eyes
Reddit is known for being a safe space for racist neckbeards, they probably saw a brown man and saw that was enough qualification to accuse him of any terrorist attack going on in America. They looked nothing alike
Kayla Berg's mother has no business blaming the MAKERS of the video. They never said anything about Kayla or her disappearance. It was the Reddit "detectives" who made the connection and got her hopes up for no reason.
Her being convinced the woman in the video is her daughter shows she didn't even take time and effort to examine the video because there's no way a real and caring parent would mistake someone else as their child
@@megatron8561 much as I agree that she shouldn’t be blaming the video creators, I have to disagree with this. she was desperate, her child was missing. brains have a habit of seeing what they want to see
@@cosmosisrose I agree, hearing what she said is irritating, and what she said may have even been irresponsible, but claiming she’s not a caring mother because of this is just dumb, she’s clearly grieving, and given false hope like this causes old feelings to resurface.
I think she meant in general about these kind of videos and people who make them, saying how can they do such videos just for enjoyment or hobby. Not that I agree with her but I can somehow understand why she thought and said that. Even in 2012 UA-cam was still a relatively new form of media where everyone can upload anything and she being an older generation, especially grieving mother had very different mindset about it. The same way older people especialy in the 2000s were trying to twist video games that they're cause of violence or people who play them are just childish and immature. That goes even today but to a lesser extent than it was back then.
The Sunil case really sounded like it was propelled by racism. Sunil didn't look anything like the actual culprit, and that's me with bad eyesight even just glancing at the side-by-side. The fact that Reddit purposefully went looking for someone vaguely "foreign" to accuse really says it all.
yeah, they looked nothing alike. the criminal's hair was much too long to be Sunil for a month long growth, his hair was lighter than Sunil's, his skin was much lighter than Sunil's, and Sunil had a large mole on his cheek that the criminal didn't have. ridiculous that they looked at the two and thought they were the same.
I remember the night of the Boston situation. The internet was absolutely going wild and there were "updates" coming from everywhere. It was pure insanity. RIP Sunil.
It wasn’t a prank. It was a horror skit of a guy kidnapping a girl and in his mind it was a mutual date. It had no relation to the events of the actual disappearance
Resources like Reddit are great for extremely cold cases (like 70+ years on), finding lost media, or other things...but current and actively investigated events (or baseless conjecture) are a real problem. There are plenty of mysteries to investigate that don't have any sort of real potential for negative consequences. I'm pretty active in TipofmyTongue, which is a Subreddit dedicated to helping people find pieces of media that they only have partial recollection of. No one's lives are gonna get ruined by trying to remember what show had the talking piece of cheese, or which flash movie had Isaac Newton dancing to JPop.
@@HaydenX Can you eloborate please? I googled and couldn't find him dancing to jpop. You meant Flash like the super hero or like flash the thing internet browsers used to use?
Shoutouts to that subreddit for finally helping me rewatch a movie I hadn't seen since my childhood! (It was Journey To Melonia in case anyone is interested, I freaking love it and highly recommend it.)
This has been going on far before Reddit even existed. Just look at the guy who was blamed for supposedly taking part in the Olympics bombing all because he was the only one to call it in as looking like a suspicious package. Completely ruined his life just to find out he had absolutely nothing to do with it but by then it was too late and this poor guys life was completely ruined.
I understand that Kayla Berg's mother was hurting, but her attempt to sue the makers of the video is nothing short of her selfishly projecting her own hurt onto others.
@@awkwardnerd. It doesn't even sound like it was a joke, it was a film project. And why bother putting a trigger warning on a video that they weren't even expect to be seen by many people, let alone go viral because of a change in the algorithm? The mother was 100% in the wrong for blaming these two innocent people for "traumatizing" her. It's not even like they made the video with her in mind.
I'm from the area that Kayla Berg went missing from. She's around my age, and growing up, every single supermarket and place with a bulletin board in the area had a MISSING: KAYLA BERG poster that Wavy featured in the video at 6:06. In 2016 there were still posters hanging around town looking for her years later. That was the time that reddit discovered that video and started putting the theories out there, to the point that it made the news and the Antigo (pronounced colloquially in the area ANN-tuh-GOH instead of ANN-tee-GOH) PD were checking it out. I vividly remember watching the video for the first time, immediately sending it to my friends and freaking out a bit about it, constantly checking my Facebook and news sites for more articles. Everybody suddenly was lighting up their feeds with this video and articles looking for Kayla again. My friends and I talked about it non-stop and wanted so badly to see this come to a conclusion, since not even our town, but the entirety of Central Wisconsin had been wondering for almost ten years what happened to her. Every shred of news that came out, we were reading it and sharing it. We were as fooled as anybody else, because we wanted there to be progress, tens of thousands of people knew her name and her face, and thought this was a breakthrough. Then the other shoe dropped and the conclusion came about. Once that got publicized, all the attention came back around and she still wasn't found... That was the point that we really lost faith she'd ever be found. I hope I'm wrong, and failing that, I hope her poor mother finds peace with the growing almost-certainty of never seeing her again. If anybody's curious about more details of her final night that she was seen, Kayla was last known to be smoking marijuana with one of her friends as they drove around Wausau. She was dropped off at the abandoned home of her ex-boyfriend (the boyfriend was 19 at the time) and never seen again. She knew that her ex-boyfriend had relocated from that home, as Kayla had visited the rental home he was residing in prior to that night. It's still a mystery why she insisted on being dropped off there, but the man who dropped her off sticks firm to his story on the matter. I really wish she would've been found, and I felt some serious disdain for the video creators for the first couple of days, but it's not their fault. To sue the creators, punish them for trying to create and do something, that wasn't fair. Apologies for the long-winded comment but, I don't know who might like a closer perspective of those events as they unfolded in real-time. Stupid ass redditors.
They still have a poster up in Antigo by the fairgrounds. Kinda haunting it is still up tbh. I am from a small town 25 minute south of Antigo and would see it everyday going to work. Wouldn’t imagine what it is like to be the parents.
Okay, Reddit may have been wrong about the video, but from what was know, it could very well be real. They were right to investigate it, even if turned out to be a dead end.
Day care owner: "Hmm we just started this day care and bought this building, what can we do to make the kids short stays with us a little less scary? I know a bright paint job and fun windows!" Reddit: "IT'S A PEDOPHILE RING!"
I mean, if actually trained and experienced detectives can get it wrong, it's no surprise that a set of groupthinking, biased amateurs can mess up this badly.
@@embryonic7692 And there's the twitter user whining about race unrelated. You people are the real racists, seeing as you're constantly fixated on race.
The one about the daycare is messed up, I used to walk past that building all the time. It's just a freaking daycare, when I first heard about it I was actually shocked that people were calling it a weird building. Not to mention I seen kids there all the time. So whoever made that post to begin with clearly never get out of the house.
10:29 this part always pissed me off. Like I know she's grieving but these people didn't make something to try and relate to her daughters' disappearance People are allowed to make short-form horror content jesus christ.
Yeah it sucks when people say things like that. When you boil it all down, nobody should make any stories/skits/jokes/whatever with that logic. We've all lost people one way or another, we can't just shut down creativity for it.
i can see how, after everything she had been through with the video, she could see the video itself as a sick joke. it was introduced to her not as a normal youtube video, but as a possible lead into where her daughter went. i dont agree with her, but god i feel for her. poor woman
@@wilburainsley4922 Yeah I think you put it fairly man, It all depends on how the story was told to her by the 'reporters' who wanted their 'grieving mother' shot.
The most infuriating thing about this is the daycare story. It all started because one idiot said they had a “weird” feeling about a business he has nothing to do with. Thats the product of looking for anything to try and find something creepy where it isnt.
You know what else is really messed up about this story? People are skulking around taking pictures and stuff trying to find out what's going in this daycare right? Literally anyone could have just walked right in the front door during regular business hours to inquire about things such as their rates and the kind of activities they do there and stuff like that. It's a business. That's what they do.
Yeah it's annoying to see how quickly people are to judge based on looks, without any knowledge of the person or place. Like if it makes you so curious and creeped out by the place, why not just call the number or walk in the damn place to see what's up? As for the building looking unusual for a daycare, it's just a victim of history and being old. There was an old doctor's office in my childhood hometown that looked like someone's house and was painted orange. The history behind it was that it was originally a family house then changed into a Mexican restaurant, and eventually into a doctor's clinic. Literally just a victim of time. Makes you wanna believe that some of these redditors really have never set foot outside
The day care story started out being amusing to me. There's a day care near me that my family calls the creepy day care. We also joke about it being some sort of front. My mother in law even told me if I sent my kids there, she would call CPS. I have only seen kids outside of it once in 10 years. However, it's all fun and games until the internet starts stalking a place and ruining lives
"We did it reddit!!" The online detective proclaimed. The only problem is though.... they didnt actually do anything, matter of fact, they screwed up massively. Fast forward to 2022, and I feel the latter part happens at a much higher frequency
Using the word "hoax" to describe the Hi Walter video feels disingenuous, would you call movies hoaxes? It was an amateur horror video, they had no knowledge of the Kayla Berg case and so didn't set out to portray any aspect of it.
but when you watch a movie, you know that it is a movie. this youtube video was made to look real which is kind of tasteless in my opinion. they easily could have made a disclaimer in the video that it is not real and it wouldn't have gotten the negative attention.
@@glitzerkeks6390 As far as I understand, a "hoax" has to correspond to an actual event that happened. The movie clip did not correspond to anything actual, so it was not a hoax ( i.e. pretending to be the missing girl). The makers of the clip didn't even know about the missing girl or that their choice of actress looked anything like her.
Except that Reddit is almost entirely "hands off" and literally let the "moderators" of the subreddits run everything. They only issued an "apology" because this situation hit the news in such a big way. Otherwise, they wouldn't even have issued an apology, because they genuinely didn't care until it became a PR disaster.
@@Raphael_Bizmann Not sure how my stating that Reddit tends to be "hands off" suddenly became a reason for you to be angry over all of the other platforms. My statement still stands, I just wasn't bringing other platforms into it. You're right, though. Reddit is just like UA-cam, Twitter, and facebook. They all have a "hands off" policy until a situation becomes a PR disaster. Still not sure what you're mad about...
People want a great big mystery to solve so badly - go read some Sherlock. Leave real life tragedies out of it. All of the energy these people (both 4chan and reddit) used to find some culprit to an issue they crafted in their minds could be used to do literally anything else.
@@thatguybrody4819 the reason 4chan seems more successful at these things than reddit is because for 4chan, all the threads only last about 24 ish hours at best (if successful) or even a hour (if unsuccessful) before being 404'd. So someone would have to gather significant outrage and emotional investment from various posters to keep a form of anti-hype to keep threads going at all hours for days With Reddit, threads can stay dormant and get picked up again for years, and so wannabe internet sleuths can pick up what amounts to a possible nothing-burger whenever they want for however long they want The way 4chan is alot more time-sensitive than Reddit makes insubstantial sleuthing die alot more quickly (not saying it NEVER happens, but I see it alot more on Reddit)
@@almond3066 4chan also don't really have a reputation driven motive for investigating. Aka no head honcho "expert" to lead the investigation while people with legitimate reason against the "evidence" are kicked out.
I’ve only watched the first example so far, but how good is the collective Reddit detective community if they can’t discover past videos made by the same creator?!
I think some else in another comment made a great point, they’re only looking for evidence that backs what they believe rather than holistically looking at all options
I'm a journalist. I once investigated the identity of this anonymous bad guy that had gained some notoriety. And I thought I had him. SO many things pointed to him, so many signs... it simply couldn't be merely a coincidence. Some people advised me to start publishing my findings. But I wanted to find definitive proof, no matter the absolute mountain of circumstantial evidence. And wouldn't you know it, he wasn't the guy. I dug a lot more and ended up on entirely the wrong track. It could not be him. Because I'm a professional, I never would have exposed an innocent man, but had internet sleuths been doing this investigation, his life would've been ruined. No matter how certain you are: coincidence DOES exist.
Some people really don't understand the phrase, "Innocent until proven guilty." Some people follow, "Guilty until proven innocent." They really just don't understand, huh.
@@scotterboi9 that depends. In a court of law, obviously, someone shouldn't be found guilty without ample evidence. But there's also people who translate "guilty until proven innocent" into "media can't report on accusations, only facts". And that narrative, I think, is dangerous because it favours the powerful and discredits the weak. So: I agree depending on how far you take it.
@@murderalphabetinc.5162 yes. There's a lot of bad journalists, sensation seekers. "Journalist" is an unprotected term, so anyone can just claim to be one, unlike 'doctor' or 'attorney'. I called myself a professional, that doesn't mean I consider everyone who calls themselves a journalist to be one. I work for and with reputable, ethical news media who don't publish anything until they've built a solid case. It's part of my moral code as a journalist and as a person.
@@BrianStorm742 "reputable ethical news media" I also work for fantasy pirates that ride unicorns into battle against the enemies of the Galactic Federation. Both statements are about as realistic.
About the FunTime building/windows: This is common for most independent daycares. So people can't look in and take photos without permission. A lot of daycares will simply use full-size fun imagery like cartoony schoolhouses or animals, but for some it's just easier to use blinds.
It's hilarious that so many people think there are all these serial killers on the internet just openly posting footage of their actual crimes on UA-cam.
The Dear Walter video was creepy enough that it was worth looking into. Even the police thought so. Other serial killers have done things like send taunting letters to the police or the newspapers. Jack the Ripper, The Zodiac Killer, and The BTK Killer to name a few. A youtube video would be the modern equivalent.
@@MakerInMotion bro what. No it wouldn't maybe a video message directed to someone who has power on the case or can spread the news they wanted it to be known they were out there killing and provoke the people chasing them. Not just make it so anyone can see with 0 context besides his name is Patrick has a friend named Walter and has a girl locked up that no one knows who it is.
@@MakerInMotion The police probably thought to look into it because of the mass suspicion it was getting. If no one had said anything, or had just saw it as the horror project that it was, then I imagine the police wouldn't really care.
In short: -An innocent UA-cam actor was framed for kidnapping -A suspicious daycare turned out to be a daycare (well, who'd have thought?) and a dead man gets framed for bombings. Yeah, Reddit, you screwed up big time.
The thing is, I can completely understand noticing the circumstantial similarities between the hi Walter and Kayla Berg case, and I'm glad it was raised to police for further investigation. The police even had a fair response, but I'm disgusted by the way it was handled by the wannabe detectives and media trying to smear the creators. Would they be saying the same of it were a scene from a horror movie mistaken for being posted by some random channel?
Well it’s because Reddit is full of idiots. Who like to play detective but have no investigational skills. they typically go with the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep which is not the sign of any sort of detective.
I live in Rhode Island and I remember when the Reddit case happened, the family was harassed for a little bit. This is one of the main reasons why I fucking hate Reddit
And that's why I am against vigilantism. Leave this kind of thing to professionals, and treat everyone as innocent until proven guilty. The internet made these witch hunts even worse.
You'd say that until a pedo or rapist ruined the life of a vulnerable person you know. You'd say that until you see THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF POLICE FORCES THESE DAYS I don't need to make a wall of text to make my point if I made it without trying Have a nice day
@@_3tr1k_ It's worse than that, some people were accusing random people in photographs because they were looking in the opposite direction of the street, the bar for "looking suspicious" was under the Earths mantle.
That last story was so depressing. :( I was honestly hoping that the silver lining could be that the missing kid's identity being spread so wide that maybe it would help in finding him alive.
Thats why I always tell my brother not to join this type of internet forum or groups about crime because 100% these "Detectives" are total dickwads that ruin someone's life, if you see a missing person or videos that shows actual crime like kidnapping please report to the police so they can handle this type of cases.
That daycare one is just out of this world I’ve never seen anybody in the daycare although I’ve only looked at it from 12 AM to 5 AM and I’ve never seen a single soul inside how could this be
You can tell how Reddit messes up the “investigations” by taking a suspicion and doing everything they can to prove it. Instead of actually trying to disprove their theories they look for any thing that can support their claims. Take the first case for ex, instead of trying to discover who created the videos or why, they went straight to the accusation of kidnapping and searched missing persons reports till they found a picture of a girl that could resemble that in the video. Leaving it to be flawed from the very start.
Well yea, if you work under the assumption guilty till proven innocent and not the other way around, it makes it more emotional involved and tunnel vision into trying to find anything to support you claim, instead of being passive and seeing if there's anything to disprove it and working backwards step by step to solve it and see where the conclusion lies
Even if you thought that was a legit kidnapping video, what they should have done is report it to the police. I mean, what if it WAS real, but it was a different girl? The police should have the resources to sort that out.
That first one, all they did was try to create a horror short. I don't think that they deliberately did it to upset Kayla Berg's friends and family. The second one is just weird. Someone says that a place is "a bit creepy", and these people try break ins, harass the business operator etc. Its absolutely none. Even if you believe that someone's family member is a horrible criminal, why would you harass that person? It wouldn't be their fault. In any case, people should really accept that they do not have the investigative skills to actually help. That poor boy had had enough awful experiences, and then his name was dragged through the mud.
Reddit has censored the word "Groomer" as of 24 hours ago. Which is troubling when you find out that several reddit mods have been arrested for crimes against children
I hate siding with the admins cause they're pieces of shit, but the reason they did that is exactly what this video is talking about. Reddit has recently grown a culture of people accusing random celebrities (usually gay ones) of being "groomers" with zero evidence. I imagine the admins are attempting to prevent something like the stuff that happened in this video from happening again.
Everything about the Boston marathon bombing was the worst day for Reddit and shows how quickly a mob can form when there is no leadership and it’s just a random group of people with a vendetta.
Did you see the photo of the race and what it said about the runner running towards the finish line? "What's he running from? Doe he know something?"😂🤣😂🤣😂 a real person thought that 🤣😂
I’d also mention the Elisa Lam armchair investigation. Pablo Veraga, aka death metal artist Morbid, was accused of killing her despite not being in the country when she supposedly died due to online investigators. It crippled his music career and ruined his life. Not sure if it stemmed from Reddit but it deserves an honorable mention regardless.
He also had troubles writing songs about death since then. He was actually staying in the Hotel she was staying, but her story was just tragic, not a homicide
The last one really made me emotional. Poor guy was dealing with alot and just wanted to be free from the pain he was probably dealing with and ppl were senselessly accusing him of being a terrorist AFTER death. I'm at a loss for words on that one.
The DM article about the Hey Walter video is one of the most disgusting pieces of "journalism" I have ever seen. They frame the video like an intentional hoax made solely to distress the mother of a missing girl. It includes lots of unnecessary, disparaging comments about the home and appearance of man in the video. I feel bad for the creators because they were just doing what many, many filmmakers have done over the years. If anything, the media and the internet detectives were to blame for hurting the girl's mother. It should have been quietly handled by the police instead of blowing up into a big ordeal without any real evidence.
@@phairygirl that was the point of their video, they were trying to get noticed by producers and hollywood. shouldve confirmed that the video was real before they sent journalists to harass the guys who made the video
I actually found it funny. (The video). It was OBVIOUS it was a (bad) comedy video. That poor family were victimized all over again by these so called investigators. The You Tubers did nothing wrong, the timing was just wrong. They would've had no idea about the missing girl.
@@phairygirl Yes, this is definitely the first time someone has made a fake movie but played it off as completely real. Well, except Cannibal Holocaust. And Ghostwatch. And the Blair Witch Project. And a shit ton of other art projects that are initially supposed to fool gullible audience members.
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The fact that there were people on Reddit who, in spite of mounting evidence of the contrary, still insisted that that daycare center had something sketchy going on simply because they couldn't fathom the idea that they may have been wrong and would rather deny the obvious just to avoid having to admit to themselves that they were incorrect in their witch hunt is really disconcerting
*to, not of
Every site has it's issue, while reddit's userbase on average is mostly normal, it's extremes are pretty extreme. Not as bad as that site with the 4-leaf clover.
@@Cluke6 Most people on 4chan are being ironic, while most of Reddit actually believe their bullshit.
It’s Reddit, literally most of my interactions disagreeing with redditors would be being downvoted into oblivion while being bombbared with remarks to make themselves sound smarter while the person I’m arguing with is stubborn and sticking to his guns even if the evidence is against him, in other words it’s full of stubborn grown men who want to be right once in their life and paint the other as ignorant when it’s the other way around.
Confirmation bias
Last one makes me sick that these people can't be prosecuted, they harrassed a grieving family, there should be consequence, fucking sick. Worst part is that most of them probably don't even feel remorse, just treat it as an investigation that didn't go their way.
oh yeah I guaruntee they don't give a fuck. they would most likely pass the buck on every other user while not even acknowledging their own part.
@@ophionnox1582 Yeah, something like
"I mean, I didn't call so it's not my fault, I was just trying to help"
80% of reddit users are kids lying about their age and everything else all for attention
There is a lot of stuff on the net that isn't producing the outcomes we want.
Suing for defamation in the US is extremely difficult.
You need to prove deliberately lying, malice and damage sustained. That was one or two of them possible to prove.
That's so sad the sister kept answering the phone to those random redditors cause she feared she might miss a call from her brother. It's disgusting
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Yeah, I wasn't expecting to cry at a video by Wavywebsurf but holy shit "She just kept answering out of fear of missing a call from her brother." sent me over the edge. I'm guessing it's because it reminded me that this is a real situation that actually happened to somebody and not just a funny "we did it reddit" video.
Redditors man...
It’s actually quite hilarious LOL
@@Mario87456 what kind of human are you?
The quote by Mike Tyson applies perfectly here: " “Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”
Word. I love that line as well 👍
I can see Mike Tyson punching a Reddit neck beard
U mean Mike "small neck" Tyson I could whoop that mans small neck half asleep
@@jamesAGarfield608 youd do notin coward
@@jamesAGarfield608You unironically proved his comment.
The fact they were analyzing and scrutinizing the details of the room, but didn’t think to find his other UA-cam channels says a lot about Reddit detectives.
Truest thing I've read all day.
Lmao
I remember finding that video around 2012-2013ish, and it was incredibly easy to find his other videos from there. If, I remember correctly, there was already a lengthy discussion in the comments about how the video was fake. I have no idea how they managed to screw up so badly.
Basically that this detectives suck shit.
@@SupaKoopaTroopa64 it's reddit
Reddit is one of the biggest hive minds
The thing that has always made me irrationally angry about internet vigilantes is that unlike detectives or private detectives most times they don't investigate more than one possibility. They go set on what they believe and only look into stuff supporting that and then their first instinct is to post it online to spread rumors to more moron amateurs instead of keep it private and send it to the right authorities or the family if they really think they found something. It's all about looking smart and cool to them, not justice or the victims.
There is nothing irrational about that anger.
Yeah man, you found the secret.
Preach it man /s 🤔
It's no wonder EDP's still free, because those other two mfs botched the sting op and didn't send the info to the cops
The prisons are full of innocent people because it's not just reddit who are like that it's the prosecuting attorneys, judges, DAs, police, et cetera.
Alot of redditors think like that
Every day care that I've ever seen has had the windows covered, assumedly because parents don't want randos spying on their kids. It's insane that anyone would think that covered day care windows are a sure sign that something nefarious is going on
That's interesting because there is a daycare in my small town who has covered windows but they let the kids play outside, and everytime I have to walk by that daycare all of the kids line up against the fence to stare at me walk down the street. I wish they had a privacy fence for the sake of everyone thats not the kids lmao.
A day care I worked at had special glass so the kids could see out, but nobody could see in.
It still worried me that strangers would try and look in regardless.
Yet redditors creepered on em anyways
Now that i think about it, most daycares i went to didn't have windows. One was just a prefab trailer building. It makes sense tbf.
The windows could be covered for nap time
I've seen this shit happen in my town. A guys truck broke down outside an elementary school and he was waiting for a tow truck. So what did people do? They started spreading rumors online that he was a child predator and outside the school. People talking about going there to kick his ass, people calling the police, people calling the school.
In the end, the school had to send home a letter with every single child telling the parents to stop gossiping like 12 year old girls and to not spread rumors. It embarrassed the entire town.
At least they had enough sense to be embarrassed, even if after the fact
@@daisyviluck7932 what good is their embarassment after the fact, when their actions could ruin somebody's life simply because these people couldn't be bothered to actually think like adults.
@@BL00DYME55 good point. I guess because mostly these days people double down on their wrongness rather than show any remorse at all 🫤
@@daisyviluck7932 depressing that thats the new standard
If I had an accusation for every parent I saw waiting outside the school on their car, my town would be full of predators! On the other hand, I remember reading a notice about a man who was seen giving candy away. It's behaviors like these which are red flags and should be addressed. People must not jump to conclusions, at least not until these red flags are noticed: repeated sighting of the unknown individual, attempts of interaction, suspicious individual taking pictures...
I genuinely started laughing at about 6:30. I know it’s a super fucked up story but Reddit detectives going “Look! This mall has stores that are a staple of nearly every mall in the entire country!” as evidence is hilarious
This mall has a Spencer’s and a Hot Topic! It MUST be the exact same mall!
I thought the EXACT SAME THING! I rolled my eyes so hard I got a migraine!
@@therealCrazyJake its funny cuz that mall used to have spencers and hot topic as well
Might as well say "This mall has a parking lot! Case Closed! We got the guy!"
My local mall has both of those stores I better call the police.
I went to college with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. The FBI moved so fast. They suspected it was him the first day. My college was shut down that day and had helicopters flying over it. They just didn't announce him as a suspect immediately because it would have been incredibly irresponsible because of the damage they would have done to him if they were wrong.
That's cause they were FBI informants after all, at least his brother was.
they knew who did it already, because they helped plan and fund it
@@rust44 who's brother?
I would love to know this info
@@theholydoge7616
How about you spend 45 seconds and look up the name from the op, that might help. Instead of asking people to Google for you!
@@baconstrips6260 He didn't ask anybody to search for anything for him - he just asked who's brother the first reply was referring to lmao.
Idk, saying that JCPenney and Kay Jewelers being in a mall is " circumstantial evidence" is A pretty big reach considering they are probably two of the most common stores that you'll see in any mall in America. Even like random tiny town malls you will likely see those two stores together
My mall has those two stores as well, but I live nowhere near there
That's my thought as well.
Can confirm. Lakeside Mall, Mi and Great Lakes Crossing, Mi both have [or had] those 2 stores inside...
strangely not for me. JCPenney everywhere, but only like 3 Kay Jewelers in my entire state (on the opposite side from where I live, of course)
@@xEvilRaptorx damn all the JC Penny stores closed like a decade ago around here.
The Sunil Tripathi story actually made me cry. In all these years, I'd never known the sister was picking up calls by these degenerates in the hopes it was her brother. Mobbed armchair detectives, especially social media ones, are disgusting and vile people.
They act like they found facial similarities, but no. It was clearly about his ethnicity
@@alexcompton314 Completely the wrong ethnicity though, Sunil was Indian and the bombers Chechens
@@alexcompton314 yeah they didnt even look remotely similar
Exactly they didn't look similar at all!
I think the Redditors, who were grown adults, looking through the windows and taking pictures of children were more creepier than the daycare itself
this is standard redditor behaviour
when you flip reddit backwards you get tidder, and what does that sound like?
*twitter* ...no wonder nothing good happens on both sites.
@@dr.pepper45 titter?????
My first thought was that it could've been closed or on break or something. Creepy vibe from the front but that's just the window placement. Thinking about it, it probably looks fun to kids though. It's on that uncanny valley line.
@@kittygoesWOOF I feel most daycares are built like that so that creepy Redditors won't stare inside and take photos of kids
"There was also a Kay Jewelers and a JC Penney in the mall where she was missing"
Yeah, they're in every mall
I'll bet Patrick drove past a McDonald's and a Starbucks after he kidnapped her, too.
@@harrymason4300 and a gas station.
Right next to the gamestop and the disney store respectively
@@jaxonfletcher7424 which was located next to the walmart which had a subway inside of it.
Legit
"Me and my wife have a small issue that can be solved with communication"
Reddit - "Divorce her!!"
It's the other way around most of the time. They are biased towards women. I hate that r/amitheasshole subreddit, like why do people feel the need to tell their personal business they should be working out between them and their spouses to complete strangers with the worst marriage advices. We should disable that subreddit.
@@mijaroprime9509 that subreddit is for weak insecure men, or evil women, there is no in between. Saw a girl that said she wanted to break up with her bf after she lost weight and thought she could "do better" and OF COURSE the reddit simps SIMPED.
@@mijaroprime9509 It's for people with no friends to talk to so they just spew it all on Reddit.
@@mijaroprime9509 There are just as many anti woman subs as anti man.
@@telepathickitten4653 I mean your friends are only going to mostly be biased onto your side and not really look at it with objective lenses. That's why people turn to advice forums or therapists etc. Rather than go to their yes man who will just agree blindly with everything.
Amazing the work that the “hi Walter” Redditors managed to do to identify the wrong person, but they couldn’t watch any of the creators other videos 😂
Also how they literally went through the list of all the missing people in the US until they cherrypicked one that matched their narrative.
Also Kay jewelers and JCPenny’s?? The two most COMMONLY found shops and anchor stores found in American malls?? 😭 how was that a bridge of evidence for them lol
@@ricezillas7012 When the internet detectives have the critical thinking skills of tube worms anything and everything counts as evidence. It doesn't need to make sense, it just needs to "feel right".
@@chimpinaneckbracePretty much third grade me randomly tossing scientific bullshit together thinking I'm gonna win the nobel prize
Honestly, even if Sunil really was one of the bombers, what did those "investigators" hope to accomplish by harassing his family? " Oh you were related to a maniac? Well then that means you're just as bad!"
God I hate Reddit at times.
I believe the people who harassed Sunil's family are bad people who just wanted a justification (at least in their minds) to harass people.
Reminds me of that South Park episode "Snuke" where a new Muslim kid comes to South Park Elementary, on the same day that a Hillary Clinton rally is taking place in South Park. Cartman automatically assumes that the new Muslim kid is going to commit an act of terrorism at the rally and goes on to harass the kid's parents, trying to figure out what they plan to do at the Hillary Clinton event. But in the episode, it is revealed that there was in fact going to be a terrorist attack via a "nuke inside Hillary Clinton's 'snizz' (vagina) called a 'Snuke'", but not by the Muslim family, but by a Russian man who is working for the British.
The episode's point is supposed to be "It's ignorant to think that Muslims would only commit terrorist attacks against America because most countries in the world hate the United States, not just the middle East. One of my favorite episodes tbh
The thing is a lot of "good" people think that acting like an a** h*** for "righteous" reasons is the proper thing to do.
@@michaelboyle7281 I have never heard such a well-worded synopsis of that episode until now. Bravo, good sir!
The faces don't even match as well. The real bomber doesn't have a mole but Sunil does 🤦♂️
I wouldn't call the "Hey Walter" thing a hoax. They are actors, directors, and writers.
This wasn't meant to stir up bullsh*t like a hoax. They made several videos and were trying to get attention from Hollywood types.
It was an honest misunderstanding and thank God the authorities didn't overreact to the tip.
At first I thought it was just a spooky ARG.
I'm also really glad the authorities properly looked into this before making hasty decisions.
The female actors acting was so realistic IMO i thought it was real at first. But i trusted my gut to believe it was fake despite the convincing acting. The redditors didn’t even try proving it as fake first, they jumped the gun
True, however it was their screwup for not making a disclaimer and when the police investigated the accusation they denied responsibility which only just wasted their time and resources
In Russia people like me are called "Moralphages", but I think that videos like "Hi Walter" aren't good. Not gonna lie, but inhumanity, ruthlessness, cruelty, and atrocity existing in real world are enough for me.
I understand the poor girl's mother perfectly. It's really terrible and disgusting that there are some people that can do this cruelty just for fun.
I'm so tired of feeling like my head is being chainsawn. Sorry if I'm too "fluffy" for you.
@@AsrielDremurrBomj I dont judge. Its not my thing either, but I respect artistic expression. In America, we call them moral stick bundles. 🙂
We did it Reddit! We ruined innocent lives!
Fuck Reddit mods!
This is a certified reddit moment
@@seanfooch6475 you just earned yourself a like
Updoot
This gets a hecking updoot!
How many Redditors do you think reached out after to apologize to the family after the real suspects were revealed?
0
Apologies? Reddit has never heard of such.
And by the way, do they ever happen to get anything right?
@@rigelb9025 yes, but rarely and if they are wrong they aren't sorry and if they are right they don't care who they accuse
To get the right person, if innocent people get caught in the cross fire they don't care lol
The day care could have been solved by simply knocking on the door, saying "i'm looking at daycares for my kid, do you have any spaces available?" even if they say they are at capacity at the moment, i'm sure if they said "is it ok if i look inside and get an application for a waiting list?" they'd have solved it in minutes.
Jokes on you most redditors dont know how to talk to people.
Well they were convinced it was a super secret spy building or something worse, like a movie they can't go walking into the lions jaws and knock on there and enter enemy territory, that would be suicide, obviously. Anways that's what they prolly thought lmao idk
or, they could just mind their own fucking business
Seems to be a nice way to get assassinated, as well, which I'll say is still better than idk dying of microplastics, but still not ideal
@@megamaggotman7025 This is the truest thing that anyone's ever said lmao.
I actually used to live less than a block from that daycare and I saw kids and their parents going in there every day on my way to work. It was just baffling that that thread on reddit even happened. Like I pretty much doubt any of those people that claimed they lived by it actually did and just made all of that up.
They are redditors they don’t see people come in or out because they don’t go outside
I just liked to believe some mf spurred on that conspiracy just to make redditors look like pedos for swarming around a day care.
I am 99.999999% certain that he already covered this daycare story ages ago. He is recycling stories now? Shame. Our boy is getting lazy.
The redditors who never saw people entering or leaving probably wake up in midafternoon after the daycare is done with its daily business.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 do you have a link? I've been watching wavy for a while and I don't remember ever hearing that story before
It's truly amazing how much damage a bunch of people with main character syndrome can do to other people.
Imagine doing a shitton of work and research, and not only be wrong, but also be referred to as "redditor".
What anime does to a mf
At least 4chan actually gets it right
@@jytvreal ...most of the time
If somebody thought they were a main character, they would probably be doing other things than sitting on reddit all day tbh
The Tripathi story has a little bit of everything; racial profiling, human tragedy, egotistical neckbeards, and no happy ending. Congratulations reddit on being less than worthless.
And asshole mods still acting like they did nothing wrong
The fact that anyone thought the Hi Walter video was real is so ridiculous to me. The acting from the guy clearly felt like a skit; when I first saw the video without context I just thought, “huh, what an unnerving skit”, not, “OMG THIS WOMAN WAS KIDNAPPED FOR REAL WTF?!?”. Surprised that none of the “detectives” suspected that it was another creepy ARG-type video since they’re all over the place and have existed forever.
Yes and no, you are looking at it with 2022 glasses, and that mindset is shaped by falling for many hoaxes like this. Back in 2009 it was normal to believe those kinds of videos, stuff like boogie2988 and boxxy, playing characters in a UA-cam video was still a strange thing.
@@ShadowsDML
You thought boxxy and boogie were real personalities and not online fictional characters 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You sad s.o.b.
@@ShadowsDML That video only started getting traction around 2016-2017 (Wavy even mentions it in this video). I saw it sometime around then when people were talking about it. I could tell it was a hoax from the start.
@@tidepodpadthai2633 you'd be surprised honestly. I remember there was a story of a man who kidnapped a few women and killed them and he posted selfie of himself with pieces of the corpses online. I don't remember much about it, it was a long time ago I saw this.
Don't think youve ever watched a sketch
I felt so sad for Sunil's family. They lived 3 different trauma in the short term. Firstly, their son was missing, secondly, the people accused their son as a bomber, thirdly, they learned that Sunil had committed suicide. 🥺
He drowned, didn’t necessarily commit.
@@Macachee I feel like someone drowned him… you don’t just drown like that
@@Macachee but Unlike 4chan and Reddit, UA-cam doesn’t have a internet vigilante branch so we could care less
@@jytvreal he was depressed
@@deadpirateroberts9937 because of reddit?
Blair Witch was also small project by a group of film students and they publicly made it look like the cast had actually gone missing. It's now a celebrated film. The Hi Walter vid didn't make any reference to an actual missing person case, Reddit did, and they get questioned by police and dubbed sickos. Pretty fucked up.
Yeah, it’s fucked up how the media pointed fingers at them and INSISTED that their video was about Kayla, then demonised them just for breaking the fake narrative.
> they get questioned by police
Gonna go against the flow here, but I see nothing wrong about that. If you make a mistification about such a grim topic, you should be ready for it to backfire.
@@ChildrenOfRadiation they're not trying to say it's wrong. He stated an example before this where a group of other people did something similar and were praised for it. Meanwhile, the hi Walter vid was demonized by the media and reddit and they were called sick people. It's just a case where the people involved were treated unfairly.
I don't think that's fair. Art is an expression, and the 'Hi Walter' video wasn't meant to hurt or insult anyone. Like the man said, is John Carpenter a maniac? No. He's an artist.
@@bopppp5704 I was talking specifically about the police involvement here. I believe, that it was completely justified in that situation.
The "Hi Walter" one still gets me. Not only did Reddit screw the pooch on it, but the media did them even dirtier. It was a case of bad coincidence that ruined a creative team that wanted to make simple fictional horror. Wild.
And the actor and the missing girl didn't even look alike. They were both just white😒
@@Ok-mt9ut you couldn’t even see the girls face in the video !! idfk how people were so confident
also the guy in the video was obviously acting he was not a good actor lol, the girl was convincing but yeah totally fake. also i cant believe people tried to say the girl in the video looked like the missing girl, there were like 5 pixels you couldnt see what she looked like at all
@e7193 dont forget, they were all competing, and the desperation to find a link or new evidence first, makes them believe in anything.
I could see enough similarities for it to be investigated further though.
I mean, I don't agree with some of the things that happened, but I definitely would have notified the police in the area about the video for them to look into. The media finding who he was and leaking his info was a bad deal though.
That day care story was fucking weird. Imagine being a kid at the daycare and some weird neck beard starts peeling and taking pictures of the building and the inside through the windows.
sounds like an average day of a 4channer/redditor
Nah a 4channer would just go inside
@@8-ball459 hell someone even break in the buildin
Lmfaoooo
The last one reminds me of a case where a father was accused of killing his child (I can't remember who it was) and having people harrass and accuse him for years while he was grieving. Then 5 years later a man they were sure did it confessed and suddenly everyone was so apologetic. This is what a lot of people don't get; these are real people not "cases" and you don't know them at all. What you're looking at is text on a paper or website article and not the evidence. This man suffered for years with people thinking he did something he didn't do while police had their suspicions about this other man but just couldn't confirm it publicly until he confessed. Curiosity and a sense of justice are not bad things but redditors seem to forget that only evidence can confirm it. Until you have 100% proof you should never ever treat that as the real truth.
this happened on Reddit? I'm curious!
@@rachiegoodman possibly but I think most of it was on Facebook through his friends and locals that knew him. They were all posting and commenting about it publicly and then when he was found innocent they tried to apologize acting like they didn't mean it. If I Remember the name I'll come back and let you know
@@luminvader8911 thank you!! This sounds so crazy and I want to read more about it!
@@luminvader8911 im just commenting so i get notified if you find what their name was
Was it Israel Keyes case? I know that happened with his last victim's father, he was suspected and harrassed for months.
Imagine being accused of such a heinous and terroristic crime in the afterlife. Poor Sunil, I hope wherever he is he’s resting in peace.
It hurts my spirit to know she kept picking up that phone because she was hoping one of them would be her brother.
That gave me chills. That woman is strong af.
Reditors really are special kids. That Sunil case.... The chin was compeltely different,
1 - Sunill had a chin in line with his nose, the bomber hada pointed forward chin
2 - You can see from under the cap (and confirmed on later photos) that the bomber had curlied hair, even though it was a month later, sunil couldn't have that hair
3 - the skin color is completely different! The bomber was pale white, sunil was ... well.. indian brown
Not Indian brown 💀
@@iluvhp12 indian-american brown?
Sounds like it was thinly veiled racism
@@maffieduran nah, if I was going to be racist I would bring up street shitting
To be fair, for the hair, he could've worn a wig to disguise himself. But that's about it.
- 10:23 She's blaming the wrong people. Patrick made a horror-movie type of video and there's nothing wrong with, she can't blame them for making a scary-movie video "just for fun". He never said it was her daughter, he never tried to claim it was or to troll her. She should be blaming the "Internet sleuths" who got her hopes up and mislead her. 😒
- 12:25 Did it occur to them at all that maybe it was a daycare that went out of business a while ago? 🤨 Have they never seen countless businesses and buildings sitting unused for years because it's more expensive to do anything with them than to just leave them idle? 🤦
- 14:19 People were disappointed that it _wasn't_ something bad? 🙄
- 14:28 I'm surprised people's tinfoil hats didn't just say those kids were decoys they sent there to sit around for a bit specifically to get the "Internet sleuths" off their backs after they saw the attention they were getting. 😒
It was a UA-cam video and no one knew it was fake. There are real victims out there, real families looking for their loved ones. He made it to be "intriguing" he said. He wanted people to believe it was real, that he truely had kidnapped and assaulted someone's loved one.
He also only ever addressed it when he was questioned by the police. Surely he would've known the impact this was having, there would've been UA-cam comments and shit. He chose to say nothing and let the family believe it was their missing daughter.
It wasn't a movie. He wasn't a film maker. He's a fucking idiot.
In the mother's defense, I can't blame her for that reaction, even if I don't agree with it. I can't even fathom what it must be like to have a missing child, and then one day have someone show a video like that of a girl (who's really just an actress) who resembles my missing kid, asking if it's the same person. I blame the Redditors for dragging a grieving parent into their stupid armchair sleuthing and ripping open those wounds for her with no solid evidence whatsoever. Imagine how traumatizing that must've been for her to see. Someone who's experienced a loss like that probably doesn't watch horror movies about missing/kidnapped people because it's a painful reminder of their own, very real experience.
HAHAH birds arent real
That's why people put useful information in the descriptions of their videos so things like this don't happen.
That Boston bombing subreddit just goes to show that way too many people want to be the hero that save the day without even thinking about possible consequences
Imagine thinking you know more about a guy than the guys family
The hero syndrome
The awful part is they don't even look through same, mildly similar but not close.
@@BlueRGuy I’ve read a lot of tropes in the books that I’ve read at home.
Frankly, Constant Hero Syndrome (as this kind of black and white thinking is known in tv tropes, the net’s main website for nerds) is not allowable (at best) in public for a reason; a lot of humans think of themselves being the hero without thinking about consequences whatsoever.
@@Jakey4000 right, like the only thing that look somewhat similar is the chin and nose. Nothing else looks the same. His hair doesn’t even look like it’d grow the same way as the actual bomber’s and his cheek bone structure is completely different. They just had confirmation bias with what they thought they saw
Man I feel really terrible for the Tripathi family... They seem like a real nice and friendly family.
Story 3 is awful, the pain of losing your child and then the pain of knowing he didn’t commit that crime and yet the world can only see that- disgusting.
Ur gae
Well, just look at what happened to John DeLorean in the 80s.
But he was a brown man acting sUspICious.
That’s all the proof we need!
Fatherless pfp
@@111paolo2 no pfp no opinion 💪😎
I like how this channel talks about interesting internet topics we have all wondered about, and how it's mostly lighthearted and casual without unecessary drama added. These videos are honestly something to look forward to.
That's very sweet cherry hazard
I just left a similar comment about how he adds authentic color to the storylines without sensationalising them . Wavey is always so palatable!
Leave it to a Redditor to be SO unaware that they think the daycare, that they are spying on, and taking pictures of kids without their knowledge, is the thing that is creepy lmfao
@@FullAutoWitch it’s mostly leg beards.
Anyone else not surprised that Redditors got up in a frenzy about a daycare “looking sus” and had their bubbles burst by a 4chan guy ACTUALLY investigating it?
Lmao yeah that’s hilarious but any normal individual would just go there knock and say that they are looking for a daycare for a child in their family whether it be daughter, sister whatever, then you’d ask to be shown around inside and for an application form to fill out, bam done. That is what every normal person would do who does not spend too much time online
I love how their “evidence” was one guy with an outside photo of the place and 5 anecdotes from random people and they somehow talked themselves into thinking it was a giant conspiracy
Definitely not surprised at a 4chan user jumping at the opportunity to visit a daycare.
@@twojointsjay7330 🤣
And the reasons they thought it was suspicious( like blinds on the windows ) were the same things the ppl did to try and prove it was bad lol
The guy in Hi Walter is a really nice dude who was a fan of horror stuff. I've spoken to him and even played RE7 with him before. The man is great at comedic timing. Literally just busted out the Hi Walter voice during the opening when you find Mia.
Oh
Ahh wholesome.
Looooooool
source: trust me bro
@@stacyfearlicia you can literally find him on a few RE discord servers.
The last case just boggles my mind. Why would they think that this missing kid had something to do with the bombings? Did reddit users just go through missing person files looking for someone that matched the pictures of the suspects? surely there are a lot of young men that resemble the bombers in appearance. So, why Sunil?
It's just fucked up, man.
Rest in Peace, Sunil.
Right? And someone circled the very obvious mole on Sunil's cheek, and the redditors were just like "nah".
Seems like most of them were total racists or at the least xenophobes. They might argue that they were right to be racist towards the suspects because the actual guys were of a foreign background but they decided it had to have been people with foreign backgrounds before the news even came out with pictures of them. The suspects could have easily been any white right-wing extremist out there as well. There have been 267 right-wing attacks/plots since 2015 alone resulting in 91 fatalities. So many crazy ass people out there that come in all races and backgrounds.
That last case made me trust in 4chan detectives more then ever
So, why Sunil?
Probably race . He was an Indian , and reddit can get extremely racist .
r/greentext and r/meme depending on the time of the day targets most South & South East Asians pretty hard. Blacks used to be on the list too , and still does ... but after BLM movement its died down a lot.
If you disapprove , they'll gaslight you by saying "why so serious" , "cope or seethe" etc .
They definitely targeted him because he was Brown/Indian. Reddit hates South Asians and refuses to admit it despite how obvious their collective hatred of Brown people is
I never understood how anyone could think the Hi, Walter vid was real. Everything about it screams fake. There's the guy's obviously fake tone and then there's the fact that the girl doesn't start voicing anything until he opens the door, as if she's starting on cue.
have you heard the story of genius horror
special effects guru RÉMY COUTURE, master craftsman who was
sued in court for corruption of the masses and won the case, in canada in the 2010s??
It's so obviously fake I can't believe so many people thought it was real like how????
Exactly. Also what kidnapper just openly exposes their face, shows off the victim and makes an entire UA-cam video to show everyone?
This is gonna sound weird but I gotta hand it to the girl for putting her heart into that scream at the end, if you just heard the audio of that it'd probably be more convincing someone was in danger. That being said yeah the dude's stilted acting should've given it away
@Sine Nomine or maybe not everybody was a stupid kid
The last one is infuriating. They didn't even look alike. Those ppl should truly be ashamed smh
Literally! The whole time I was thinking “they think brown people look the same” 💀
@@user-ti2ph6qb1y the bombers weren't even brown, they were chechens lmao
Confirmation bias going all wrong.
"We want it to be him so bad, so we wont look into it more."
@@Me12222 That just makes it even worse! Racial profiling at its finest.
Redditors: One of the bombers is a curly haired white man!?Well he looks just like this tan indian man with short hair who went missing a month ago, meaning he'd have no time to grow out his hair to that length but since I want it to be him, it is him.
One theme I noticed with these "Reddit detectives" is that they always jump to an assumption of guilt even when they have reasons to be doubtful or suspicious. Like they don't even take the time to do their due diligence before going straight to leaving harassing phone calls.
But then again, these are "neckbeard detectives" after all. The closest they ever came to solving a major case was completing L.A. Noire on the PS3.
Reddit loves their witch hunts 💀 but yeah the obsession with proving that people are “wrong” is very telling.
And here’s the thing. There are people that legitimately want that kind of mindset in our judicial system. They want guilty until proven innocent, and even then it will likely not be enough to be set free. These people are willing to end the lives of 100 men, just so they can catch the one shoplifter that stole a DVD player from a Walgreens on the corner of Main St and Kentucky Ave back in ‘09.
Real justice would be the families of these victims suing these neckbeards.
I wonder if that is how all those r/slash stories were accepted as true.
At least with 4chan they actually take investigating somewhat seriously. What other website you know that used camera footage just to track a guy who had his face covered who smacked someone with a bike lock
Reddit Detectives are blind as hell, that one guy didn't look ANYTHING like Sunil.
A fucking blindsnake could tell the difference between the two.
"But bro brown = terrorist, get educated"
@@neurodivergentpixi6736 yikes, amirite
What kind of reply does it mean it is?
I had to laugh at the guy saying "the noses look identical" when they look decidedly non-identical.
Something similar to these happened with the subreddit about the investigation of Gabby Petito's death. It had like 20 mods who went on power trips demanding to know how much each of them were contributing, to the point where some demanded to have everyone else on the team log their sleep so they could track how much time each member was spending on the "investigation". They genuinely thought that they could do better than the current investigators by just Googling shit lmao
Thats so reddit. I was on a reddit about the case just to see news update and it was filled with conspiracies.
Reddit wants to have 4chan's investigative powers so bad lol
they're a buncha power hungry crazys. Which is why subreddits always have a long list of rules and no-life moderators. Similar to over-zealous security guards that become cops.
WTF I remember that sub occasionally appearing on the front page
Didn't realise things got that bad tho...
@@swilson5320 Yeah, that happens a lot on posts with less than a thousand upvotes most of the time. The nut jobs are always the first to reply in these posts.
I love the scientific method, you know:
Make an observation, form a hypothesis, and try to prove it at all costs with confirmation bias.
What could go wrong?
I guess to thier credit they have seen this method produce the desired results in the msm, politics and legal systems.
There really should be a way to put charges on the redditors who do this. The fact they can just get off Scott free doesn’t sit well with me
Yeah. They should Terminate or at least Suspend redditor accounts that were involved with cases like these.
How do you enforce it though? Even if someone commented, "I called this place" and detailed what they did, I doubt anyone could be convicted for it. The people involved all live in different states with different laws. Too much of a mess and hard to prove anything
I understand the feeling, but it’s not a good idea to make laws over this (there are laws about harassment, trespassing, etc.). If anything, one way to deal with it could be to mock them as a way to “punish” them and deter others with videos like this or comments, etc. Eventually, over time, from this treatment, more people will wake up and realize there’s more harm than good done. It should lead to, if they think they “cracked the case” they will give their information to the professionals to deal with it.
Nah. That'd be hard to enforce and could lead to some dangerous outcomes. For particularly aggressive/persistent individuals, we already have laws for that but one of the issues with all forms of "internet justicing" is that it's a collective harassment. If you're tweeting at or commenting on some guy's video because you think they're a piece of shit and suddenly you're charged with a crime bc it turns out that guy wasn't a piece of shit and your tweet or comment was considered harassment because you weren't considering that literally thousands of other people did the exact same thing, I'm sure you'd consider that an unfair ruling. Reddit detectives aren't any different than that. Just replace the moral/ethical high that most modern internet which hunters get with an intellectual high.
These are shitty situations but it's not a great practice to mobilize the law to rid the world of every shitty situation.
At least their stuck with the knowledge that they were wrong and there's nothing they can do about it
A man on Reddit said something creepy and claimed he used to work at Area 51 so OBVIOUSLY we believed him at face value!
Ikr lmfao
common sense isn't quirky enough
Right. People who actually work at Area 51 will never tell you where they work.
@@Reparo96 they'll probably tell you they work an office job or something
The "Hi Walter" clip, to me, was obviously a skit (and now i know it was a hoax as well). It may have been in poor taste, but I don't think there was anything intentionally sinister about it. He just seems to have a very dark sense of humor and he seemed to be really into horror hoaxes. I feel so terribly for Kayla Berg's family. But I really do think he had no idea about the Kayla Berg case. It was an unfortunate, sad, coincidence.
It wasn't a hoax, its a short horror film. Did you NOT watch the same video I just did? They made a ton of mini movies with the same people. That's not a hoax. Just because people are retarded to think a serial killer put a snuff film on YT doesn't mean that these people did anything wrong. Like saying the movie Hostel might have had real people getting killed. smh
Yeah, the video always seemed like a skit to me.
He played the stereotypical incel virgin kidnapper guy perfectly, a bit too perfectly.
And the thing about the hoax is it's _believable._ Normal people will fall for this (myself somewhat included). Internet vigilantes run wild. And no one gets hurt except the victims.
This kind of behavior leads to dangerous dichotomies.
Imagine if he just wanted to make his own Internet mystery and wrote the story himself, like, ouch. Hey at least now u know the girl u hired or the girl that helped u was a good actress and u guys did a pretty good job at freaking people out
@@kaylons Do you have similar feelings about the original War of The World's radio broadcast? I think at some point we can't blame the artist for actually making truely impactful art. I could argue that the algorithms that take advantage of social idea contagions are even more to blame than the talented/disturbing actors for this case. Thinking, this video would have stayed within savvy horror circles if it wasn't for the UA-cam algorithm being so aggressive and tangential.
Edit* This caffinated reply of mine is totally moot if you meant the vigilanties were the ones being irresponsible or despicable. Sorry
You know there's also a daycare on my way to work that I never see anyone go in or out of but I always assumed it was just closed down. Why do people go to the craziest assumptions?
Because to people with main character syndrome everything is a conspiracy.
There's a daycare very similar like that in my old city, bright colors (this one is hot pink), kids aren't outside, blinds on the windows. It's a daycare in the hood. They're keeping their kids safe given the area. Where I was born, wasn't in a big-ish city, so it does look "weird" at first but given the context it is perfectly logical. The Utah daycare also looks urban. God forbid we paint our buildings fun colors and try to keep weird peepers out of the windows *ahem*
I still can’t believe people actually thought Sunil looked liked him. The noses are complete different shape, the actual criminal had curly hair, and Sunil had a mole on his left cheek, finally his jawline is a lot more sharp. Like cmon people just look with your eyes
Ikr people on reddit must have facial blindness
Reddit is known for being a safe space for racist neckbeards, they probably saw a brown man and saw that was enough qualification to accuse him of any terrorist attack going on in America. They looked nothing alike
me too
Classic redditor racism
Right?? They looked nothing alike other than both not being white I guess.
Kayla Berg's mother has no business blaming the MAKERS of the video. They never said anything about Kayla or her disappearance. It was the Reddit "detectives" who made the connection and got her hopes up for no reason.
Amen
Her being convinced the woman in the video is her daughter shows she didn't even take time and effort to examine the video because there's no way a real and caring parent would mistake someone else as their child
@@megatron8561 much as I agree that she shouldn’t be blaming the video creators, I have to disagree with this. she was desperate, her child was missing. brains have a habit of seeing what they want to see
@@cosmosisrose I agree, hearing what she said is irritating, and what she said may have even been irresponsible, but claiming she’s not a caring mother because of this is just dumb, she’s clearly grieving, and given false hope like this causes old feelings to resurface.
I think she meant in general about these kind of videos and people who make them, saying how can they do such videos just for enjoyment or hobby. Not that I agree with her but I can somehow understand why she thought and said that. Even in 2012 UA-cam was still a relatively new form of media where everyone can upload anything and she being an older generation, especially grieving mother had very different mindset about it.
The same way older people especialy in the 2000s were trying to twist video games that they're cause of violence or people who play them are just childish and immature. That goes even today but to a lesser extent than it was back then.
The Sunil case really sounded like it was propelled by racism. Sunil didn't look anything like the actual culprit, and that's me with bad eyesight even just glancing at the side-by-side. The fact that Reddit purposefully went looking for someone vaguely "foreign" to accuse really says it all.
I agree. It seems incredibly racist.
yeah, they looked nothing alike. the criminal's hair was much too long to be Sunil for a month long growth, his hair was lighter than Sunil's, his skin was much lighter than Sunil's, and Sunil had a large mole on his cheek that the criminal didn't have. ridiculous that they looked at the two and thought they were the same.
strongly agree
That's definitely the case 99% of the time. Where do racist people spew their racist shit? Internet.
Reddit being racist 😨?! The devil you say!
I remember the night of the Boston situation. The internet was absolutely going wild and there were "updates" coming from everywhere. It was pure insanity. RIP Sunil.
The Hi Walter one always confused me, because it was so clearly not real. It was such awful acting that it had to be a prank attempt.
She did sound kinda real
@@Gett_Raccd Good voice acting and tone, but definitely unrealistic timing, yea
Indeed. Nobody talks as cartoonishly as Walter did. It's like some kind of disney character.
I once found a series of videos of a guy who had kidnapped a woman, and he would torture her with the Star Wars prequel trilogy, truly horrific stuff.
It wasn’t a prank. It was a horror skit of a guy kidnapping a girl and in his mind it was a mutual date. It had no relation to the events of the actual disappearance
Resources like Reddit are great for extremely cold cases (like 70+ years on), finding lost media, or other things...but current and actively investigated events (or baseless conjecture) are a real problem. There are plenty of mysteries to investigate that don't have any sort of real potential for negative consequences. I'm pretty active in TipofmyTongue, which is a Subreddit dedicated to helping people find pieces of media that they only have partial recollection of. No one's lives are gonna get ruined by trying to remember what show had the talking piece of cheese, or which flash movie had Isaac Newton dancing to JPop.
@isabelle Trip to the Moon
@@HaydenX Can you eloborate please? I googled and couldn't find him dancing to jpop.
You meant Flash like the super hero or like flash the thing internet browsers used to use?
Reddit strikes me as being biased about people so this makes sense to me.
Shoutouts to that subreddit for finally helping me rewatch a movie I hadn't seen since my childhood! (It was Journey To Melonia in case anyone is interested, I freaking love it and highly recommend it.)
This has been going on far before Reddit even existed. Just look at the guy who was blamed for supposedly taking part in the Olympics bombing all because he was the only one to call it in as looking like a suspicious package. Completely ruined his life just to find out he had absolutely nothing to do with it but by then it was too late and this poor guys life was completely ruined.
I understand that Kayla Berg's mother was hurting, but her attempt to sue the makers of the video is nothing short of her selfishly projecting her own hurt onto others.
Karen moment
@@awkwardnerd. "But" what? Having a missing child doesn't mean you get to toss critical thinking out the window and that's what she did
@@awkwardnerd. It doesn't even sound like it was a joke, it was a film project. And why bother putting a trigger warning on a video that they weren't even expect to be seen by many people, let alone go viral because of a change in the algorithm? The mother was 100% in the wrong for blaming these two innocent people for "traumatizing" her. It's not even like they made the video with her in mind.
@@awkwardnerd. she shouldn't believe Internet nor see the vídeo, just to report that video to the police
@@Kayawtiku Exactly. That's like going around and suing every movie producer that makes a plot about human trafficking and kidnapping lol.
"we did it reddit........WE DESTROYED THIS INNOCENT PERSONS LIFE FOR NO REAL REASON! :D"
Everybody gangsta until
*Twitter has joined the game*
nice copied comment
Well at least someone got their reddit karma boosted
I'm from the area that Kayla Berg went missing from. She's around my age, and growing up, every single supermarket and place with a bulletin board in the area had a MISSING: KAYLA BERG poster that Wavy featured in the video at 6:06. In 2016 there were still posters hanging around town looking for her years later. That was the time that reddit discovered that video and started putting the theories out there, to the point that it made the news and the Antigo (pronounced colloquially in the area ANN-tuh-GOH instead of ANN-tee-GOH) PD were checking it out. I vividly remember watching the video for the first time, immediately sending it to my friends and freaking out a bit about it, constantly checking my Facebook and news sites for more articles.
Everybody suddenly was lighting up their feeds with this video and articles looking for Kayla again. My friends and I talked about it non-stop and wanted so badly to see this come to a conclusion, since not even our town, but the entirety of Central Wisconsin had been wondering for almost ten years what happened to her. Every shred of news that came out, we were reading it and sharing it. We were as fooled as anybody else, because we wanted there to be progress, tens of thousands of people knew her name and her face, and thought this was a breakthrough. Then the other shoe dropped and the conclusion came about. Once that got publicized, all the attention came back around and she still wasn't found... That was the point that we really lost faith she'd ever be found. I hope I'm wrong, and failing that, I hope her poor mother finds peace with the growing almost-certainty of never seeing her again.
If anybody's curious about more details of her final night that she was seen, Kayla was last known to be smoking marijuana with one of her friends as they drove around Wausau. She was dropped off at the abandoned home of her ex-boyfriend (the boyfriend was 19 at the time) and never seen again. She knew that her ex-boyfriend had relocated from that home, as Kayla had visited the rental home he was residing in prior to that night. It's still a mystery why she insisted on being dropped off there, but the man who dropped her off sticks firm to his story on the matter. I really wish she would've been found, and I felt some serious disdain for the video creators for the first couple of days, but it's not their fault. To sue the creators, punish them for trying to create and do something, that wasn't fair. Apologies for the long-winded comment but, I don't know who might like a closer perspective of those events as they unfolded in real-time.
Stupid ass redditors.
I’m also from Wausau and I remember the missing persons posters posted in Kwik trip and Walmart
They still have a poster up in Antigo by the fairgrounds. Kinda haunting it is still up tbh. I am from a small town 25 minute south of Antigo and would see it everyday going to work. Wouldn’t imagine what it is like to be the parents.
Dang a whole paragraph
Okay, Reddit may have been wrong about the video, but from what was know, it could very well be real. They were right to investigate it, even if turned out to be a dead end.
@@muddashucka9743 oh, a reddit-detective.
hi. its an honour.
bye.
Day care owner: "Hmm we just started this day care and bought this building, what can we do to make the kids short stays with us a little less scary? I know a bright paint job and fun windows!"
Reddit: "IT'S A PEDOPHILE RING!"
In reddit land any adult who has ever been within thirty feet of a child is a pedophile
That daycare was cool af ngl
The Qanon theory! Research nothing, but believe some dude in a truck that says "bro, trust me!"
@@HoneyCat_Comb It gives liminal and "Back Rooms" vibes. It looks cool asf.
I mean, if actually trained and experienced detectives can get it wrong, it's no surprise that a set of groupthinking, biased amateurs can mess up this badly.
Yeah.. And racial profiling seems to be part of the "drill," cause law enforcement do that too, - a lot!...
@@embryonic7692
I wonder what big city did that a lot. Probably had like 14k deaths to bad policy
Yeah, even the police agreed with reddit about the Hi Walter video. That says a lot.
@@embryonic7692 And there's the twitter user whining about race unrelated. You people are the real racists, seeing as you're constantly fixated on race.
It must be so devastating to see your lost family member framed online for perpetrating the event that killed them
The one about the daycare is messed up, I used to walk past that building all the time. It's just a freaking daycare, when I first heard about it I was actually shocked that people were calling it a weird building. Not to mention I seen kids there all the time. So whoever made that post to begin with clearly never get out of the house.
I think more should have been said/investigated on the person who made the original post. A very bad trouble-maker.
would be fitting if they used reddit lmao
10:29 this part always pissed me off. Like I know she's grieving but these people didn't make something to try and relate to her daughters' disappearance People are allowed to make short-form horror content jesus christ.
Yeah it sucks when people say things like that. When you boil it all down, nobody should make any stories/skits/jokes/whatever with that logic. We've all lost people one way or another, we can't just shut down creativity for it.
i can see how, after everything she had been through with the video, she could see the video itself as a sick joke. it was introduced to her not as a normal youtube video, but as a possible lead into where her daughter went. i dont agree with her, but god i feel for her. poor woman
@@wilburainsley4922 Yeah I think you put it fairly man, It all depends on how the story was told to her by the 'reporters' who wanted their 'grieving mother' shot.
The most infuriating thing about this is the daycare story. It all started because one idiot said they had a “weird” feeling about a business he has nothing to do with. Thats the product of looking for anything to try and find something creepy where it isnt.
You know what else is really messed up about this story? People are skulking around taking pictures and stuff trying to find out what's going in this daycare right? Literally anyone could have just walked right in the front door during regular business hours to inquire about things such as their rates and the kind of activities they do there and stuff like that. It's a business. That's what they do.
Yeah it's annoying to see how quickly people are to judge based on looks, without any knowledge of the person or place. Like if it makes you so curious and creeped out by the place, why not just call the number or walk in the damn place to see what's up? As for the building looking unusual for a daycare, it's just a victim of history and being old. There was an old doctor's office in my childhood hometown that looked like someone's house and was painted orange. The history behind it was that it was originally a family house then changed into a Mexican restaurant, and eventually into a doctor's clinic. Literally just a victim of time. Makes you wanna believe that some of these redditors really have never set foot outside
The worst part? That one sub was still active during this debacle.
@@ColonelSandersLite I was hoping the daycare call the police on these redditors who stalked them
The day care story started out being amusing to me. There's a day care near me that my family calls the creepy day care. We also joke about it being some sort of front. My mother in law even told me if I sent my kids there, she would call CPS. I have only seen kids outside of it once in 10 years.
However, it's all fun and games until the internet starts stalking a place and ruining lives
Imagine being shown a video of a supposedly kidnapped girl in distress to see if its your real missing daughter while you hear her cry and scream.
I know Goddamn I love it LMFAO 🤣🤣
@@DontPretendtoCare what
And then it’s not even her
"We did it reddit!!" The online detective proclaimed. The only problem is though.... they didnt actually do anything, matter of fact, they screwed up massively.
Fast forward to 2022, and I feel the latter part happens at a much higher frequency
Pfizer shilling intensifies
I hate when someone says "wE DiD iT RrrEdDit"
Using the word "hoax" to describe the Hi Walter video feels disingenuous, would you call movies hoaxes? It was an amateur horror video, they had no knowledge of the Kayla Berg case and so didn't set out to portray any aspect of it.
Thank you!
but when you watch a movie, you know that it is a movie. this youtube video was made to look real which is kind of tasteless in my opinion. they easily could have made a disclaimer in the video that it is not real and it wouldn't have gotten the negative attention.
@@glitzerkeks6390 As far as I understand, a "hoax" has to correspond to an actual event that happened. The movie clip did not correspond to anything actual, so it was not a hoax ( i.e. pretending to be the missing girl). The makers of the clip didn't even know about the missing girl or that their choice of actress looked anything like her.
I feel really bad for the Sunil Tripathi family, these Redditors need to stop making assumptions and leave these investigations to the professionals
Pros being 4chan
@@Poodleinacan nah, 4chan is just as bad
@@chrisaishere2555 true, but they aren't chasing those karma points.
The Tripathi family should have sued Reddit for facilitating their harassment and emotional damages.
I agree with you
Agreed. Reddit screwed up big time and the people responsible should've been sued by the Tripathi family for the damages Reddit cause.
Except that Reddit is almost entirely "hands off" and literally let the "moderators" of the subreddits run everything. They only issued an "apology" because this situation hit the news in such a big way. Otherwise, they wouldn't even have issued an apology, because they genuinely didn't care until it became a PR disaster.
@@Keshlynne
Bullshit.
We all know Reddit is just like UA-cam or Twitter or Facebook.
@@Raphael_Bizmann Not sure how my stating that Reddit tends to be "hands off" suddenly became a reason for you to be angry over all of the other platforms. My statement still stands, I just wasn't bringing other platforms into it.
You're right, though. Reddit is just like UA-cam, Twitter, and facebook. They all have a "hands off" policy until a situation becomes a PR disaster. Still not sure what you're mad about...
People want a great big mystery to solve so badly - go read some Sherlock. Leave real life tragedies out of it. All of the energy these people (both 4chan and reddit) used to find some culprit to an issue they crafted in their minds could be used to do literally anything else.
EXACTLY,People with no experience with crime or forensics should be no where near actual crime cases.
Or browse cold cases?
at least 4Chan actually goes after actual bad people. they are surprisingly thorough once they get on something.
@@thatguybrody4819 the reason 4chan seems more successful at these things than reddit is because for 4chan, all the threads only last about 24 ish hours at best (if successful) or even a hour (if unsuccessful) before being 404'd. So someone would have to gather significant outrage and emotional investment from various posters to keep a form of anti-hype to keep threads going at all hours for days
With Reddit, threads can stay dormant and get picked up again for years, and so wannabe internet sleuths can pick up what amounts to a possible nothing-burger whenever they want for however long they want
The way 4chan is alot more time-sensitive than Reddit makes insubstantial sleuthing die alot more quickly (not saying it NEVER happens, but I see it alot more on Reddit)
@@almond3066 4chan also don't really have a reputation driven motive for investigating. Aka no head honcho "expert" to lead the investigation while people with legitimate reason against the "evidence" are kicked out.
I’ve only watched the first example so far, but how good is the collective Reddit detective community if they can’t discover past videos made by the same creator?!
It's because they're not detectives, they're just shut-in try hards.
@@Dermetsu lol pretty much. The kjewler and jcpenny stores are in every single mall. We have 2 malls here close by and they both have those stores.
I think some else in another comment made a great point, they’re only looking for evidence that backs what they believe rather than holistically looking at all options
@@Sjcstro84 just asking, but your malls are pretty much dead too right? I only go to malls to skateboard inside and just chill in empty stores
@@chilledxaura yeah pretty much empty.
I'm a journalist. I once investigated the identity of this anonymous bad guy that had gained some notoriety. And I thought I had him. SO many things pointed to him, so many signs... it simply couldn't be merely a coincidence. Some people advised me to start publishing my findings. But I wanted to find definitive proof, no matter the absolute mountain of circumstantial evidence. And wouldn't you know it, he wasn't the guy. I dug a lot more and ended up on entirely the wrong track. It could not be him. Because I'm a professional, I never would have exposed an innocent man, but had internet sleuths been doing this investigation, his life would've been ruined. No matter how certain you are: coincidence DOES exist.
Some people really don't understand the phrase, "Innocent until proven guilty." Some people follow, "Guilty until proven innocent." They really just don't understand, huh.
@@scotterboi9 that depends. In a court of law, obviously, someone shouldn't be found guilty without ample evidence. But there's also people who translate "guilty until proven innocent" into "media can't report on accusations, only facts". And that narrative, I think, is dangerous because it favours the powerful and discredits the weak. So: I agree depending on how far you take it.
Journalists expose innocent people all the time. And stalk family members that had absolutely nothing to do with whatever they're looking into, too.
@@murderalphabetinc.5162 yes. There's a lot of bad journalists, sensation seekers. "Journalist" is an unprotected term, so anyone can just claim to be one, unlike 'doctor' or 'attorney'. I called myself a professional, that doesn't mean I consider everyone who calls themselves a journalist to be one. I work for and with reputable, ethical news media who don't publish anything until they've built a solid case. It's part of my moral code as a journalist and as a person.
@@BrianStorm742 "reputable ethical news media"
I also work for fantasy pirates that ride unicorns into battle against the enemies of the Galactic Federation. Both statements are about as realistic.
About the FunTime building/windows: This is common for most independent daycares. So people can't look in and take photos without permission. A lot of daycares will simply use full-size fun imagery like cartoony schoolhouses or animals, but for some it's just easier to use blinds.
It's hilarious that so many people think there are all these serial killers on the internet just openly posting footage of their actual crimes on UA-cam.
The Dear Walter video was creepy enough that it was worth looking into. Even the police thought so. Other serial killers have done things like send taunting letters to the police or the newspapers. Jack the Ripper, The Zodiac Killer, and The BTK Killer to name a few. A youtube video would be the modern equivalent.
@@MakerInMotion bro what. No it wouldn't maybe a video message directed to someone who has power on the case or can spread the news they wanted it to be known they were out there killing and provoke the people chasing them. Not just make it so anyone can see with 0 context besides his name is Patrick has a friend named Walter and has a girl locked up that no one knows who it is.
@@MakerInMotion The police probably thought to look into it because of the mass suspicion it was getting. If no one had said anything, or had just saw it as the horror project that it was, then I imagine the police wouldn't really care.
I mean to be fair a ton of people posted their crimes into snap chat, but that’s mainly kids and teens
@@MakerInMotion was you one of the armchair Reddit detective at the time?
If the internet has taught us one thing, it's that a sense of anonymity comes with an overexaggerated sense of superiority.
“It’s too brightly colored for a daycare”
Reddit moment.
The fact that Redditors don’t suffer repercussions is the true sad part
The ones who participated though. Not the ones who did not.
Lots of reddit internet sleuths really do have good intentions, like in the first story. The video looked very sketchy.
They are someone in your position
@@Palepetal
No, the vast majority are attention seeking conspiracy theorists hoping to gain Internet 'clout'.
In short:
-An innocent UA-cam actor was framed for kidnapping
-A suspicious daycare turned out to be a daycare (well, who'd have thought?)
and a dead man gets framed for bombings.
Yeah, Reddit, you screwed up big time.
Man u really dont know how to type. Do u ?
The thing is, I can completely understand noticing the circumstantial similarities between the hi Walter and Kayla Berg case, and I'm glad it was raised to police for further investigation. The police even had a fair response, but I'm disgusted by the way it was handled by the wannabe detectives and media trying to smear the creators. Would they be saying the same of it were a scene from a horror movie mistaken for being posted by some random channel?
@@RJ-wx3fh Exactly.
Well it’s because Reddit is full of idiots. Who like to play detective but have no investigational skills. they typically go with the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep which is not the sign of any sort of detective.
This is why i hate reddit and its users.
I live in Rhode Island and I remember when the Reddit case happened, the family was harassed for a little bit. This is one of the main reasons why I fucking hate Reddit
But reddit is a beacon of social justice and liberalism now
@@TheJingles007 Social justice reddit mods. No thanks.
@@TheJingles007 But what about
r/conservative and r/theleftcantmeme?
@@readyforchanged3600 Little islands of red in a sea of blue
@@TheJingles007 fuck Reddit im glad my country banned it
And that's why I am against vigilantism. Leave this kind of thing to professionals, and treat everyone as innocent until proven guilty. The internet made these witch hunts even worse.
Truth I hate the vigilante rhetoric you find on line.
*Sad batman noises*
You'd say that until a pedo or rapist ruined the life of a vulnerable person you know.
You'd say that until you see THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF POLICE FORCES THESE DAYS
I don't need to make a wall of text to make my point if I made it without trying
Have a nice day
Redditard aka Redditor is kind of people who you want to punch them in the face if you meet them in real life.
@@mysticnovelbro I agree reddit should keep going with it, along with a side of nachos and a set of fedoras
It's like, investigating crimes is a Job and not a hobby you can jump into without any knowledge from behind a computer. Who would have guessed.
The bomber and the student don't even look alike, well done reddit.
It was probably a lot of white folks not knowing how to tell foreigners apart, NGL.
They saw brown man with big nose and went crazy
Ure mom
@@_3tr1k_ It's worse than that, some people were accusing random people in photographs because they were looking in the opposite direction of the street, the bar for "looking suspicious" was under the Earths mantle.
Redditors are so obese that they can't step a foot outside
honestly i don't think the internet's ever gonna stop their armchair vigilante work, even when it ends in lives being taken
A cautionary tale about how good intentions aren't enough and that's why experts are experts for a reason.
The experts get it wrong quite often too
@@Andy_Sidaris No, they don't; and when they do get it wrong, it's a lot less often than when a bunch of dumb amateurs take over.
@@UnprofessionalProfessor When they get it wrong it has far larger consequences than when amateurs get it wrong.
@@UnprofessionalProfessor The experts really did a bang up job with Covid,
@@Andy_Sidaris Goalpost shifting, go figure.🙄
its scary how so much damage people can cause when they try to be the hero, they do more harm than good.
That last story was so depressing. :(
I was honestly hoping that the silver lining could be that the missing kid's identity being spread so wide that maybe it would help in finding him alive.
Twitter and Reddit are constantly fighting and calling each other the absolute worst, while they’re nearly identical. The perfect lovers
Enemy's to Lovers
@@Inspirator_AG112 any subreddit above 100k is literal cancer
@@Inspirator_AG112 yea, my bad
@@Inspirator_AG112 reddit sucks ass
@@Inspirator_AG112 reddit is shit
Thats why I always tell my brother not to join this type of internet forum or groups about crime because 100% these "Detectives" are total dickwads that ruin someone's life, if you see a missing person or videos that shows actual crime like kidnapping please report to the police so they can handle this type of cases.
Report to many, cause a lot of them don’t want to be bothered.
That daycare one is just out of this world I’ve never seen anybody in the daycare although I’ve only looked at it from 12 AM to 5 AM and I’ve never seen a single soul inside how could this be
You can tell how Reddit messes up the “investigations” by taking a suspicion and doing everything they can to prove it. Instead of actually trying to disprove their theories they look for any thing that can support their claims. Take the first case for ex, instead of trying to discover who created the videos or why, they went straight to the accusation of kidnapping and searched missing persons reports till they found a picture of a girl that could resemble that in the video. Leaving it to be flawed from the very start.
Well yea, if you work under the assumption guilty till proven innocent and not the other way around, it makes it more emotional involved and tunnel vision into trying to find anything to support you claim, instead of being passive and seeing if there's anything to disprove it and working backwards step by step to solve it and see where the conclusion lies
@@ethang8334 Yet they're the first type of people for accusing others of doing the same :/
Even if you thought that was a legit kidnapping video, what they should have done is report it to the police. I mean, what if it WAS real, but it was a different girl? The police should have the resources to sort that out.
Confirmation bias is something really dangerous indeed
That first one, all they did was try to create a horror short. I don't think that they deliberately did it to upset Kayla Berg's friends and family.
The second one is just weird. Someone says that a place is "a bit creepy", and these people try break ins, harass the business operator etc. Its absolutely none.
Even if you believe that someone's family member is a horrible criminal, why would you harass that person? It wouldn't be their fault. In any case, people should really accept that they do not have the investigative skills to actually help. That poor boy had had enough awful experiences, and then his name was dragged through the mud.
Reddit has censored the word "Groomer" as of 24 hours ago.
Which is troubling when you find out that several reddit mods have been arrested for crimes against children
Wait, Arrested?
JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED! :D
@@kathrineici9811 We should turn that into a real word.
Correlation does not equal causation. Did you learn nothing from this video?
I hate siding with the admins cause they're pieces of shit, but the reason they did that is exactly what this video is talking about. Reddit has recently grown a culture of people accusing random celebrities (usually gay ones) of being "groomers" with zero evidence. I imagine the admins are attempting to prevent something like the stuff that happened in this video from happening again.
@@sable7053 Yeahhhhhh, friends of Jeffrey are fucking SKETCHY and you almost look a little sketchy defending them.
Everything about the Boston marathon bombing was the worst day for Reddit and shows how quickly a mob can form when there is no leadership and it’s just a random group of people with a vendetta.
Did you see the photo of the race and what it said about the runner running towards the finish line? "What's he running from? Doe he know something?"😂🤣😂🤣😂 a real person thought that 🤣😂
I’d also mention the Elisa Lam armchair investigation. Pablo Veraga, aka death metal artist Morbid, was accused of killing her despite not being in the country when she supposedly died due to online investigators. It crippled his music career and ruined his life. Not sure if it stemmed from Reddit but it deserves an honorable mention regardless.
That is unfortunate, and something I would not wish on a competitor. There is a reason they say to leave stuff to the professionals.
He also had troubles writing songs about death since then. He was actually staying in the Hotel she was staying, but her story was just tragic, not a homicide
The last one really made me emotional. Poor guy was dealing with alot and just wanted to be free from the pain he was probably dealing with and ppl were senselessly accusing him of being a terrorist AFTER death. I'm at a loss for words on that one.
The DM article about the Hey Walter video is one of the most disgusting pieces of "journalism" I have ever seen. They frame the video like an intentional hoax made solely to distress the mother of a missing girl. It includes lots of unnecessary, disparaging comments about the home and appearance of man in the video. I feel bad for the creators because they were just doing what many, many filmmakers have done over the years. If anything, the media and the internet detectives were to blame for hurting the girl's mother. It should have been quietly handled by the police instead of blowing up into a big ordeal without any real evidence.
I wouldn't place him as a film maker, when we go to a movie, we know it is fake. This, not so much
@@phairygirl that was the point of their video, they were trying to get noticed by producers and hollywood. shouldve confirmed that the video was real before they sent journalists to harass the guys who made the video
I actually found it funny. (The video). It was OBVIOUS it was a (bad) comedy video. That poor family were victimized all over again by these so called investigators. The You Tubers did nothing wrong, the timing was just wrong. They would've had no idea about the missing girl.
@@phairygirl Yes, this is definitely the first time someone has made a fake movie but played it off as completely real.
Well, except Cannibal Holocaust. And Ghostwatch. And the Blair Witch Project. And a shit ton of other art projects that are initially supposed to fool gullible audience members.
@@phairygirl Every comment of yours I read makes me closer to eating a round lmao. People like you should need a license to even speak