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Always thought it was weird when conservation groups removed deadwood from rivers... as if trees falling isn't a perfectly natural thing to happen in a forest. Keep up the work! Edit: I get that sometimes it needs to be removed for recreation purposes or other land use needs, just talking about rewilding/conservation.
@@olivere5497Yes I live near a ravine and when the large trees fall into the river the storm debris turns it into a dam and the river can flood and more If not people lived near by all good. however with housing being only 75 metres away a river change of direction risks eroding the banks near the housing that is 30 metres up the bank
Debris in rivers makes them a lot harder to navigate for anyone using the river for recreational activities like canoeing down stream. I've canoed many rivers and lakes in Finland and I'm happy to say that at least here the (I believe reintroduced) beavers and woodlands are doing just fine despite us keeping the small rivers clear of fallen trees.
I think there is an amazing long-term opportunity to get Mossy Earth members worldwide to volunteer to restore their local ecosystems. You guys are in a unique position to connect large numbers of volunteers with rewilding projects. It might be worth looking into the idea of creating a platform for connecting rewilding projects with volunteers.
Conservation and rewilding work is an intensely local endeavor, for better or worse. Mossy Earth & Ecosia always use local partners. In the US, there's the Sierra Club, and many rivers have their own conservancy. Check out local groups, and get them watching these videos and the many other fine permaculture and beaver dam type projects we've all seen.
Wish I could volunteer, but there's an ocean between us. I've been planting native trees all my life and this is a beautiful work to see. Keep it going🎉🎉
It's great that you do what you do. Quite often, because you're on your own, you actually get more work done because you're the only decision-maker. There can be a lot of standing about when you're part of a group, everyone waiting for a group leader to decide what to do next and how to distribute jobs. I just go out with a bunch of trees, plant them, water them, stick a tree guard around them if they need it, give them a bit of mulch if I have anything good to hand, and I'm done in an hour. If I feel like litter picking the river bank, I can cover ground more efficiently on my own and not accidentally scour ground that other volunteers ahead of me have already covered. By not being distracted by others talking, I feel that I see much more that needs doing. Also, because I wear camos to blend in better and I have no reason to talk aloud - I bet I get to see much more wildlife than any group. I have experienced a Red Kite swoop close past my ear, rescued a duckling (whose tiny cheeps would never have been heard above human talking), talked to the cutest young owl on a wall, come face to face with an otter, had some very near misses with running deer, been verbally abused by a red squirrel, hissed at by a badger, watched stoats at play, turned to find a red fox had tiptoed right up behind me as I sat to rest near his den, watched Kingfishers build a nest burrow, and I've been used as a very temporary perch by 2 surprised robins who must have thought I was a shrub. None of these creatures would have come anywhere near if I had been part of a group talking, wearing bright clothes and making a noise. I am sure you've had plenty of close encounters of the wild kind when you've done your solitary duty to the planet. Would you trade in any one of your experiences? I think not.
There's a valley near where I live, an amazing steep area with fantastic terrain, old trees and habitats for many species. I regularly build stone and wood dams in that valley to slow water down and reduce erosion, as well as tree planting and trash cleaning (of which there are literal tons unfortunately). Glad to see you guys are hard at work restoring waterway ecologies, they are often forgotten. I'd watch your videos every day.
Step one: remove beavers Step two: figure out why ecosystems collapse where beavers were Step three: do what the beavers were doing initially, and cut down trees to make partial new ecosystems Gotta love humans
For those not familiar with "hinged cut" trees, this is also called "pleaching" and it is how you get bushes and small trees to become part of a proper hedgerow, a fence made of hedges interwoven with dead sticks and live plants, etc. They're a solid microhabitat for wildlife, full of diversity, and a good spot to provide extra food for animals & people alike. A good hedgerow can last 40-50 years!
@@RichardMontgomeryYThe said he’s happy to contribute to charity. They are not a charity. That is the point. Do whatever you want with that information. If they were a charity and more transparent about their outcomes (rather than hiding it for paid members only) I would give them money.
I watched this. Then right after I saw a post from my municipality's Park and Road service, that because of all the rain many trees had fallen into the city river. AND that they would only remove the ones in the way of river traffic, but leave the ones which weren't in the way. Because of how important they are for creating habitats and healthy ecosystems. Yay ❤
It's very nice to meet you, John. Now we know the graphics guru who has been behind all of the informative graphics that help us visualize and understand the projects far better than words alone. I like meeting the people who make these videos so engaging. Thanks to you all !
@acreon547 - I don't know. How about paying yourself to do what any good country boy does and acting like it's some heroic act? That smacks of virtue signaling. In fact, I bet when you read my comment your inner voice was saying, "how dare he say such a thing!" "doesn't he know what wonderful people we are?"
Vermont has started doing this as most of our waterways are completely 'man-made' (dynamite for clearing debris and attempting to straighten our rivers) from our timber industry back in the day.
I used to live in the Mendips, pretty much halfway between Bishop Sutton and Cheddar, right by the Chew. I used to see so much wonderful wildlife when I lived out there. Deer, badgers, snakes, pheasants, and so many more. It makes me especially happy to see people caring for the land that I feel cared for me when I was growing up.
As a lifelong student of the ancients forests, and a plant-based environmental educator, of the Pacific Northwest, I love seeing you return wood to the streams and rivers of homeland. In our region too so much effort was made to remove wood from the waters (streams, rivers, estuaries, beaches, lakes, ponds, wetlands and so on...) and it was disasterous for our living systems. Now we are also restoring the absolutely crucial wood-water relationships. Great work bringing the wood back and educating people on the true value of wood in water.
Being graduate of conservation some 20 years ago, I absolutely understand the management being done here, albeit sad when you cut trees, but it has a purpose. Ingenius ideas. Can prevent bank erosion, create habitat pockets, reduce river flow, cleanse water, crossings for wildlife, habitat for mosses and fungi. I can simply picture it as clear was water. Well done. Would love to be a Mossy Earth volunteer. One day. 😊 Love your work.
It would be great to see more of this stuff across Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland. So much of our islands disappeared due to agriculture and monoculture planting
Have you considered winching them instead of sawing? Uprooted tree stumps are a super valuable microhabitat. In the Netherlands we've used this method for the same purpose. Feel free to contact me for more info!
In this case, the sawn stumps are able to regrow full trees, so they have a double benefit of proving services in the river AND still be able to stabilise the river bank & sequester carbon 😊
@@FloraBeverleyUnstable river banks due to fallen (or winched) trees is actually a good thing! This promotes erosion/sedimentation dynamics and result in more structural variation in the riverbed.
@pieter1108 not always - a lack of trees means there is too much erosion. There needs to be a balance and in this case, more trees is a good thing! (Obviously naturally falling trees are often uprooted providing that habitat that you spoke of, which is great!)
@@FloraBeverley I doubt that winching a few trees here would result in this situation as far as I can judge from this video. Anyway, in the Netherlands the organization I work for as an ecologist has a similar project to this, but then on a rather large scale where sand suppletion and woody debris/winched trees promoted structural variation and increased sedimentation/erosion processes so much that whole forests regained their natural flood dynamics. There's actually a nice video in English about it: ua-cam.com/video/qjR20YVoyss/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WaterschapValleienVeluwe.
When you mentioned that areas of the river are overgrown, it made me think of a project a gent in Australia started. They have a huge problem with blackberry bushes that have just taken over. This gent started taking his goats out, and they have been clearing the bushes a treat.
More great work. I'm a angler and this kind of action is most welcome. The work you do and some of my brethren may have some differences but we are all in favour of a stronger environment and despite the differences we should learn to work together. To long have the anglers been the only ones trying to protect out waterways and it's shortsighted of all of us to not share in each others successes.
By having work days on rivers clearing rubbish also catching fly tippers and reporting them. Protecting bird life water fowl, voles etc. by being a registered club and stopping waterways being polluted by companies, gathering evidence and taking them to court. oh and getting generations of family doing the same instead of some liberal woke students trying to feel better because they have been indoctrinated at universities and now need likes on social media.
Well if they don't they are right to point out that getting them on board (to increase the variety and number of fish available to them) is a good idea. The more people invested in biodiversity and not just taking with no giving back, the better
Clesning water ways, protecting fish numbers, catching invasive fish, documentsting diseased fish in area so proper biologists can come check it out, theres a lot! Just not strictly in the make it better crowd but the keep it workinng aspect of wildlife conservation@@Meandyoujustus
Wish someone would do actual conserving of the nature here in the Netherlands. We tend to think that areas we made in like 1500 were the original form that we need to keep. Id love to see some actual wild here!
It would be interesting to see how that could be done. Given that rewilding literally means losing landmass for you guys. Grew up in the English Fens where it's much the same issue. At least in the Fens its mostly farmers who need to be convinced but if their land keeps getting flooded by the sea anyway, I'm sure they'll get on board eventually.
As someone in the river reatoration/conversation industry im upset at the comments who dont know theres likely 3 or 4 local organizations/non profits likely working in their back yards hosting community events. The blame falls on us for not having great communication skills. There definitely is an art to communication and you all got it. 👍
This is so cool. As an “environmentalist” (I hate that word but can’t think of a better one rn), I have always loved rivers and streams and the biodiversity they support. I didn’t realize that the presence of wood in a river/stream would have so many benefits to the ecosystem! Great work!!!
After seeing all the hard work and effort that these people are doing really makes me appreciate beavers so much more! And on top of that, we don't even have to pay the beavers!
I imagine having all the debris in the river would also help reduce bank erosion by slowing and breaking up the flow. I love everything you guys do! I just wish I had the money to donate.
Great work as usual, would love for more attention to be brought to wales in terms of rewilding. We have so little space left for nature and it's a country that is continuously forgotten.
Sadly they said ok discord as revenue only covers the cost of making the video. I’m a member though and you get to see so much more of what they’re doing I heavily recommend you become a member if you can afford it
Chagrin River Watershed channel on UA-cam has posted a one hour lecture on stabilizing stream banks, and you definitely need to look into that, especially considering the choice of material (preference of thinner, longer material than fat short logs), and more importantly advising against the use of stakes (they tend to fail easily) and rather use living trees as the anchor for log jams. Moreover, on the other end of the spectrum you have the whole business of using BDAs or PALS to reduce erosion or purposefully create more erosion to induce meandering, and that definitely requires a bit of planning. Lots of very insightful presentations out there on UA-cam and I encourage everyone to check it out!
It makes you realise how much we need this education for the public right? I would have been one of those people who thought it was too "messy" just 5 years ago
This stuff is so important. I wish every community could have something like this around if people are willing to put in labor and sweat and skills. Idk why countries don't have this as a fundamental foundation aspect of their system?
There should be more groups like yours, 👍 Great job. We sadly reach the point we can't keep taking from nature, without giving back. I hope 🙏 we are not too late.
That's very cool, I suppose it's slightly similar to the efforts to reintroduce beavers into the ecosystem as their dams are very important to the rivers.
I hit the thumbs-up before I even watched this video (yay, commercial break.) because I already knew the answer to Why, but I ALSO knew I'd LOVE listening to Mossy Earth explain it...and I did!
This is just like how reforesting projects work as I learned at school. I live in Korea, and reforesting was a big thing in the late 1900s. I was born long after those projects came into fruition, but it is still a common knowledge that people will cut down many trees (including those that were manually planted in the first place) in a process called "weeding out." I l learned it is done so that remaining trees can grow thick and the forest can be healthy. But that was all I knew, just a vague practice that is a thing. It was good to watch a video and learn how it's done up close.
I spent last weekend wading around in the stream behind my parents house, removing trash and shoring up the collapsing bank with berms. There used to be lots of trees holding the bank together, but sometime before we bought the place the bittersweet vines killed half the trees and the neighbors said the old owners had the trees removed and the stumps pulled out... so lots of work taking out the invasive vines (and the multiflora rose, which is so damn spiky) and we are propagating a willow that survived to help with the banks too
Instead of cutting the all the way through the tree, cut many relief cuts on the side that you want the tree to go, (the compression side). You cut through about half of the tree or more every two or three inches starting low. Cut like fifteen to twenty cuts just deep enough to not make the tree move, and not pinch the saw, Then work them a little deeper from the sides a bit so as to not pinch your saw. As the tree starts to move, each cut will allow the tree to bend only 1/4 inch and it shouldn't break the tree in half. The tree should bend over into the water. The tree will stay alive and keep the tree in place. With this method you can make habitat in bigger rivers that would normally wash the trees downstream. It helps to fall the tree downstream a bit. I did this with some 10 inch willows and the branches took root in the riverbed further anchoring the tree. This was 10 years ago. The tree sprouted new vertical "trunks" along it's original trunk and is healthy. Please someone experiment with this and do a video tutorial. and share this post or knowledge. It's not that hard to do. Thanks!
Commenting for the algo and to support y'all! Love what you do, I've learned so much from watching y'alls videos. It's so exciting to see all the hard work y'all are doing and how much you're inspiring so many people.
I got to do something extremely similar two years ago as apart of the California conservation corps, although only a handful of the northern facilities actually participate in the salmon restoration project, it was an amazing experience. It was different because we actually had blueprints to follow and used a grip hoist as well as metal cables and pulley systems to move the logs and create the structures on the blueprints
Fascinating stuff! Adding trees to the river means adding carbon based fiber, thus adding micro organisms to eat it, and eventually a whole foodchain moves in - just add water!
Might be a bit biased but the south west is the best place for wildlife in the country. It has nearly every habitat you can think of. Not to mention it’s one of the least populated places in the country which gives wildlife plenty of room to do its thing. Great work guys, can’t wait to see all the benefits from this, well done!
good job, we have a 500m section of river and over 30 large trees have been washed into river over past 3 years, in some sections creating log jams and these benefits you outline
The late C. Jeff Cedarholm, phD, did some similar projects in western Washington State in like small streams. The project sites I saw were in stream reaches that were a little steeper. Had stumps cut a little higher. Bore hole in stump and log, attach them together. Inexpensive method of increasing woody debris. While the western red alder was native, except after large scale disturbance it is not locally the normal riparian dominant tree. Established after railroad logging in the 1920’s, its closed canopy makes return of the western red cedar and western hemlock very slow. So these were hand planted at sites when alder was dropped into creek. The hemlock start will producing long lasting woody debris in maybe in 2200 A.D., the cedar maybe starting in 2500. Faith in the future is part of project.
We've had great results pulling or tipping trees into creeks, rootwads and all. I would love to see you show us where you're doing that. I see you're using some small trees. If you were to get a few strong come-alongs and a fiddle block system you could pull any of those trees over. The Root Wad/Ball will help hold the tree in place and the tree may even survive which could be a good thing in many situations.
As an angler I want you to do this because it creates habitat for fish and their fry, which supports kingfishers l, herons. Gravel is needed for fish to spawn in. Donation added guys keep up the amazing work
It’s nice 👍🏻 to see 👀 people who are putting in the efforts to save our world 🌎 and lives 💚that the politicians aren’t acknowledging or helping us with. Thank you 🙏🏻 for everything that you do to make the world 🌍 a better place to live!! 💚💙💛
In 2001, the Kent Wildlife Trust with the Wildwood Trust and Natural England imported two families of Eurasian beavers from Norway to manage a wetland nature reserve. This project pioneered the use of beavers as a wildlife conservation tool in the UK. You should see if you could get some for this project. Also in July 2022 saw the good news that beavers in England will be given legal protection!
I need to see more information on how wood in the rivers creates more habitats. I can easily see how opening up the canopy lets new flowers grow, but how does covering a part of the river bed with woody debris create a new habitat rather than just a different one? What relies on that which is missing? Beavers? Otters? Don't both of those move the debris themselves? Frogs? Maybe frogs. Gives fish a place to hide. I'd like to see more, especially about how it affects gravel beds and what wildlife are affected by that. I would like to see way in which woody debris adds new pools and riffles to the river. Because those are clearly huge benefits to wildlife, but it's not clear to me how it happens or why. I would support this initiative financially if I had better information to support my decision.
People seem to forget it is called a flood plane for a reason, farmers don't want it to flood as it ruins their crop / makes the land unstable for tractors, or worse people build on it. You need an area either side of the river so it can change its route or break its banks, you cant control nature so give it space.
Youre also doing a favor to adventurers that need trees to cross rivers that was a joke but I realized some animals might actually use it for that so thats neat hehe
If you think this project is worth supporting then be sure to check out our membership mossy.earth . It is truly what makes it all possible! - Cheers, Rob
Amazing work
Idea, why don't you transfer the debris from overgrown areas for the Deadwood
Keep up the amazing work
Could you do some work in Scotland to try and help the Caledonian forest
Always thought it was weird when conservation groups removed deadwood from rivers... as if trees falling isn't a perfectly natural thing to happen in a forest. Keep up the work!
Edit: I get that sometimes it needs to be removed for recreation purposes or other land use needs, just talking about rewilding/conservation.
Oh yeah when you put it like that its really odd to remove it! Thanks for the support! Cheers - Rob
Sometimes logs in rivers is good, sometimes bad.
@@olivere5497Yes I live near a ravine and when the large trees fall into the river the storm debris turns it into a dam and the river can flood and more If not people lived near by all good. however with housing being only 75 metres away a river change of direction risks eroding the banks near the housing that is 30 metres up the bank
Debris in rivers makes them a lot harder to navigate for anyone using the river for recreational activities like canoeing down stream. I've canoed many rivers and lakes in Finland and I'm happy to say that at least here the (I believe reintroduced) beavers and woodlands are doing just fine despite us keeping the small rivers clear of fallen trees.
@@appleciderhorror12Great that animal and nature have to be ignored so that humans recreational activity is not disturbed.
I think there is an amazing long-term opportunity to get Mossy Earth members worldwide to volunteer to restore their local ecosystems. You guys are in a unique position to connect large numbers of volunteers with rewilding projects. It might be worth looking into the idea of creating a platform for connecting rewilding projects with volunteers.
Conservation and rewilding work is an intensely local endeavor, for better or worse. Mossy Earth & Ecosia always use local partners. In the US, there's the Sierra Club, and many rivers have their own conservancy. Check out local groups, and get them watching these videos and the many other fine permaculture and beaver dam type projects we've all seen.
That’s a really good idea!
@@Nphenthen a site where you can link to those recourses would be cool because those can can often be quite hard to find...
Agreed!
@@IlloyedKateragreed
Wish I could volunteer, but there's an ocean between us. I've been planting native trees all my life and this is a beautiful work to see. Keep it going🎉🎉
Maybe one day, but keep on planting those native trees :) Cheers - Rob
It's great that you do what you do.
Quite often, because you're on your own, you actually get more work done because you're the only decision-maker. There can be a lot of standing about when you're part of a group, everyone waiting for a group leader to decide what to do next and how to distribute jobs.
I just go out with a bunch of trees, plant them, water them, stick a tree guard around them if they need it, give them a bit of mulch if I have anything good to hand, and I'm done in an hour.
If I feel like litter picking the river bank, I can cover ground more efficiently on my own and not accidentally scour ground that other volunteers ahead of me have already covered.
By not being distracted by others talking, I feel that I see much more that needs doing.
Also, because I wear camos to blend in better and I have no reason to talk aloud - I bet I get to see much more wildlife than any group.
I have experienced a Red Kite swoop close past my ear, rescued a duckling (whose tiny cheeps would never have been heard above human talking), talked to the cutest young owl on a wall, come face to face with an otter, had some very near misses with running deer, been verbally abused by a red squirrel, hissed at by a badger, watched stoats at play, turned to find a red fox had tiptoed right up behind me as I sat to rest near his den, watched Kingfishers build a nest burrow, and I've been used as a very temporary perch by 2 surprised robins who must have thought I was a shrub.
None of these creatures would have come anywhere near if I had been part of a group talking, wearing bright clothes and making a noise.
I am sure you've had plenty of close encounters of the wild kind when you've done your solitary duty to the planet. Would you trade in any one of your experiences?
I think not.
Plenty of conservation / rewilding groups in the states that need volunteers.
@@MossyEarthits about time somebody realised 👍
How do I know which native plants and tree's should I plant I live in morocco
There's a valley near where I live, an amazing steep area with fantastic terrain, old trees and habitats for many species. I regularly build stone and wood dams in that valley to slow water down and reduce erosion, as well as tree planting and trash cleaning (of which there are literal tons unfortunately). Glad to see you guys are hard at work restoring waterway ecologies, they are often forgotten. I'd watch your videos every day.
Sounds like you're making that valley a better place! Keep the good work and thank you for the support. Cheers - Rob
You're a warrior! Keep doing what you're doing.
Erosion is only bad for humans that build things in silly places.
@@ExploreVanIsle what about the trees that fall into the valley? Or the soil that washes away?
The change you're making will beaver-y impactful!
LMAO
Step one: remove beavers
Step two: figure out why ecosystems collapse where beavers were
Step three: do what the beavers were doing initially, and cut down trees to make partial new ecosystems
Gotta love humans
For those not familiar with "hinged cut" trees, this is also called "pleaching" and it is how you get bushes and small trees to become part of a proper hedgerow, a fence made of hedges interwoven with dead sticks and live plants, etc. They're a solid microhabitat for wildlife, full of diversity, and a good spot to provide extra food for animals & people alike. A good hedgerow can last 40-50 years!
A good hedgerow can last hundreds of years.
A charity I’m very happy to contribute towards. You guys do amazing vital work!!
Thank you for the support!!! - Rob
Btw they are not a registered charity. They are also incapable of giving logical reasons for lack of registration.
your point being?@@kutaplex
@@RichardMontgomeryYThe said he’s happy to contribute to charity. They are not a charity. That is the point. Do whatever you want with that information. If they were a charity and more transparent about their outcomes (rather than hiding it for paid members only) I would give them money.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT In the least it's a bit sus, and I say that as a member.
It was great to get involved! Disappointed my beaver impression didnt make it into the vid 😅
Looking forward to seeing the change this makes! 🙌
Oh I want to see that! They should put it in an update 😄🦫
Well, you certainly have a good name for what you do.
@@apextroll nice joke
I hope they put your beaver in the next one
I watched this. Then right after I saw a post from my municipality's Park and Road service, that because of all the rain many trees had fallen into the city river. AND that they would only remove the ones in the way of river traffic, but leave the ones which weren't in the way. Because of how important they are for creating habitats and healthy ecosystems. Yay ❤
It's very nice to meet you, John. Now we know the graphics guru who has been behind all of the informative graphics that help us visualize and understand the projects far better than words alone. I like meeting the people who make these videos so engaging. Thanks to you all !
Glad to see you guys are continuing your efforts and expanding the, keep up the good work!
Yes, its great to see the work being carried out and we're excited to see what else happens with this one. Cheers - Rob
I've never seen so much virtue signaling in my life, nor self congratulory hot air. It is truly vapid behavior.
@@paneofrealitychannel8204 How is it virtue signalling?
@acreon547 - I don't know. How about paying yourself to do what any good country boy does and acting like it's some heroic act? That smacks of virtue signaling. In fact, I bet when you read my comment your inner voice was saying, "how dare he say such a thing!" "doesn't he know what wonderful people we are?"
Nice to see the river get a bit messier with all that wood. Looking forward to seeing some niches filled now!
Yep woody rivers is exactly what we like to see!! Cheers - Rob
Vermont has started doing this as most of our waterways are completely 'man-made' (dynamite for clearing debris and attempting to straighten our rivers) from our timber industry back in the day.
Same in Michigan. Sad to see a beautiful waterfall having a huge gouge in it
Denmark too.
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I used to live in the Mendips, pretty much halfway between Bishop Sutton and Cheddar, right by the Chew. I used to see so much wonderful wildlife when I lived out there. Deer, badgers, snakes, pheasants, and so many more. It makes me especially happy to see people caring for the land that I feel cared for me when I was growing up.
As a lifelong student of the ancients forests, and a plant-based environmental educator, of the Pacific Northwest, I love seeing you return wood to the streams and rivers of homeland. In our region too so much effort was made to remove wood from the waters (streams, rivers, estuaries, beaches, lakes, ponds, wetlands and so on...) and it was disasterous for our living systems. Now we are also restoring the absolutely crucial wood-water relationships.
Great work bringing the wood back and educating people on the true value of wood in water.
Being graduate of conservation some 20 years ago, I absolutely understand the management being done here, albeit sad when you cut trees, but it has a purpose. Ingenius ideas. Can prevent bank erosion, create habitat pockets, reduce river flow, cleanse water, crossings for wildlife, habitat for mosses and fungi. I can simply picture it as clear was water. Well done. Would love to be a Mossy Earth volunteer. One day. 😊 Love your work.
I love being able to support Mossy Earth. It takes so little! So jump in, and share your small part of the cost to protect the world.
This video was a cut above the rest. Great work guys!
Lets hope it makes a splash Matt! Cheers - Rob
It would be great to see more of this stuff across Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland. So much of our islands disappeared due to agriculture and monoculture planting
Have you considered winching them instead of sawing? Uprooted tree stumps are a super valuable microhabitat. In the Netherlands we've used this method for the same purpose. Feel free to contact me for more info!
In this case, the sawn stumps are able to regrow full trees, so they have a double benefit of proving services in the river AND still be able to stabilise the river bank & sequester carbon 😊
@@FloraBeverleyUnstable river banks due to fallen (or winched) trees is actually a good thing! This promotes erosion/sedimentation dynamics and result in more structural variation in the riverbed.
@pieter1108 not always - a lack of trees means there is too much erosion. There needs to be a balance and in this case, more trees is a good thing!
(Obviously naturally falling trees are often uprooted providing that habitat that you spoke of, which is great!)
@@FloraBeverley I doubt that winching a few trees here would result in this situation as far as I can judge from this video. Anyway, in the Netherlands the organization I work for as an ecologist has a similar project to this, but then on a rather large scale where sand suppletion and woody debris/winched trees promoted structural variation and increased sedimentation/erosion processes so much that whole forests regained their natural flood dynamics. There's actually a nice video in English about it: ua-cam.com/video/qjR20YVoyss/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WaterschapValleienVeluwe.
Maybe they don't have enough resources to bring a winch and a generator in.
Here's to all the noble trees that sacrificed their lives for this rewilding project ❤
When you mentioned that areas of the river are overgrown, it made me think of a project a gent in Australia started. They have a huge problem with blackberry bushes that have just taken over. This gent started taking his goats out, and they have been clearing the bushes a treat.
More great work. I'm a angler and this kind of action is most welcome. The work you do and some of my brethren may have some differences but we are all in favour of a stronger environment and despite the differences we should learn to work together. To long have the anglers been the only ones trying to protect out waterways and it's shortsighted of all of us to not share in each others successes.
Can you explain how anglers protect the environment? :-)
By having work days on rivers clearing rubbish also catching fly tippers and reporting them. Protecting bird life water fowl, voles etc.
by being a registered club and stopping waterways being polluted by companies, gathering evidence and taking them to court.
oh and getting generations of family doing the same instead of some liberal woke students trying to feel better because they have been indoctrinated at universities and now need likes on social media.
Well if they don't they are right to point out that getting them on board (to increase the variety and number of fish available to them) is a good idea. The more people invested in biodiversity and not just taking with no giving back, the better
Clesning water ways, protecting fish numbers, catching invasive fish, documentsting diseased fish in area so proper biologists can come check it out, theres a lot! Just not strictly in the make it better crowd but the keep it workinng aspect of wildlife conservation@@Meandyoujustus
@@Meandyoujustusanglers want to catch fish so if there is more fish bc of improved habitat they can catch more fish
Your channel. is awsome
ah thank you, but its nothing without our members! Cheers - Rob
Thanks for giving hope ❤
Its what we do :) Cheers - Rob
Wish someone would do actual conserving of the nature here in the Netherlands. We tend to think that areas we made in like 1500 were the original form that we need to keep. Id love to see some actual wild here!
It would be interesting to see how that could be done. Given that rewilding literally means losing landmass for you guys. Grew up in the English Fens where it's much the same issue. At least in the Fens its mostly farmers who need to be convinced but if their land keeps getting flooded by the sea anyway, I'm sure they'll get on board eventually.
As someone in the river reatoration/conversation industry im upset at the comments who dont know theres likely 3 or 4 local organizations/non profits likely working in their back yards hosting community events. The blame falls on us for not having great communication skills. There definitely is an art to communication and you all got it. 👍
Very cool project and great video as usual Joel, Rob & the team!
Always fun to see a river turn a little more wild! Cheers - Rob
This is so cool. As an “environmentalist” (I hate that word but can’t think of a better one rn), I have always loved rivers and streams and the biodiversity they support. I didn’t realize that the presence of wood in a river/stream would have so many benefits to the ecosystem! Great work!!!
After seeing all the hard work and effort that these people are doing really makes me appreciate beavers so much more! And on top of that, we don't even have to pay the beavers!
So glad to see the work going into the project.
Gave back nature what we took from centuries..is satisfactory
I imagine having all the debris in the river would also help reduce bank erosion by slowing and breaking up the flow. I love everything you guys do! I just wish I had the money to donate.
This work gives me so much hope.
Thank you for caring enough to do what you do.
Alex is such a talented young man! I know him from university. Love that he got the opportunity to get involved
The area in the US I'm in desperately needs this in so many creek and river ecosystems.
Great work as usual, would love for more attention to be brought to wales in terms of rewilding. We have so little space left for nature and it's a country that is continuously forgotten.
See it all over the place here in Pennsylvania where they are trying to improve trout habitat. Makes fishing kinda hard but is good for the trout.
Big thanks to Mossy Earth John that made a cameo in the video (hope I got the name right). I appreciate your graphics/visual so much!
Will continue to watch the commercials, like and remain subscribed which is my way of support 🎶
Sadly they said ok discord as revenue only covers the cost of making the video. I’m a member though and you get to see so much more of what they’re doing I heavily recommend you become a member if you can afford it
Chagrin River Watershed channel on UA-cam has posted a one hour lecture on stabilizing stream banks, and you definitely need to look into that, especially considering the choice of material (preference of thinner, longer material than fat short logs), and more importantly advising against the use of stakes (they tend to fail easily) and rather use living trees as the anchor for log jams.
Moreover, on the other end of the spectrum you have the whole business of using BDAs or PALS to reduce erosion or purposefully create more erosion to induce meandering, and that definitely requires a bit of planning.
Lots of very insightful presentations out there on UA-cam and I encourage everyone to check it out!
That's such an amazing job, congralutulations and keep up the good work!
Thank you very much, we certainly will :) - Rob
Always enjoy seeing projects related to water retention, keep it up!
Thank you guys, great work again. I just know you folks make my monthly contribution count. I'm happily contributing as much as I can spare!
Brilliant to see how quickly there is a build up of new material behind the felled trees!
I always love your videos since it makes you think about how a seemingly "bad" thing is actually beneficial to the environment
It makes you realise how much we need this education for the public right? I would have been one of those people who thought it was too "messy" just 5 years ago
Love it
I can't wait to see the results in another 6-12 months
Great work as always
It makes me super proud to be a Mossy Earth Member
I`ve learned so much from your videos. Keep up the great work. I will become a Mossy Earth member very soon.
This stuff is so important. I wish every community could have something like this around if people are willing to put in labor and sweat and skills. Idk why countries don't have this as a fundamental foundation aspect of their system?
In a UK context I say from experience that our rivers need a lot of rewilding, naturalising. We'll get there! Cheers - Rob
awsome video, good job! keep it up!❤
So lovely to see, can’t wait for the future updates in this project
There should be more groups like yours, 👍 Great job. We sadly reach the point we can't keep taking from nature, without giving back. I hope 🙏 we are not too late.
More videos! Keep working people this is restoring my faith in mankind
Just made an extra contribution:) Keep up the good work
Ah awesome, thanks for making it all possible. Cheers - Rob
Love seeing this channel grow ! Congratulations on your new amazon rainforest property!
I freaking LOVE John's graphics. It's very creative and engaging
That's very cool, I suppose it's slightly similar to the efforts to reintroduce beavers into the ecosystem as their dams are very important to the rivers.
Yes! You're spot on, beavers fell trees and break of branches... just without the use of chainsaws. Cheers - Rob
@@MossyEarthwe need to give chainsaws to beavers help them out a little
I hit the thumbs-up before I even watched this video (yay, commercial break.) because I already knew the answer to Why, but I ALSO knew I'd LOVE listening to Mossy Earth explain it...and I did!
Beaver mimicry is a wonderful restoration tool second only to Beavers themselves! Keep up the good work
This is just like how reforesting projects work as I learned at school. I live in Korea, and reforesting was a big thing in the late 1900s. I was born long after those projects came into fruition, but it is still a common knowledge that people will cut down many trees (including those that were manually planted in the first place) in a process called "weeding out." I l learned it is done so that remaining trees can grow thick and the forest can be healthy. But that was all I knew, just a vague practice that is a thing. It was good to watch a video and learn how it's done up close.
Trees have so many uses love to see it Thanks Mossy Earth! You are the epicest around ❤
I spent last weekend wading around in the stream behind my parents house, removing trash and shoring up the collapsing bank with berms. There used to be lots of trees holding the bank together, but sometime before we bought the place the bittersweet vines killed half the trees and the neighbors said the old owners had the trees removed and the stumps pulled out... so lots of work taking out the invasive vines (and the multiflora rose, which is so damn spiky) and we are propagating a willow that survived to help with the banks too
Thisnis so wonderful!!
I love all your work!!
Thanks! - Cheers, Duarte
Love this whole construct. You guys make my heart feel good ☺️
Love and appreciate your work .
Ah thank you, its due to our wonderful members of course! Cheers - Rob
Instead of cutting the all the way through the tree, cut many relief cuts on the side that you want the tree to go, (the compression side). You cut through about half of the tree or more every two or three inches starting low. Cut like fifteen to twenty cuts just deep enough to not make the tree move, and not pinch the saw, Then work them a little deeper from the sides a bit so as to not pinch your saw. As the tree starts to move, each cut will allow the tree to bend only 1/4 inch and it shouldn't break the tree in half. The tree should bend over into the water. The tree will stay alive and keep the tree in place. With this method you can make habitat in bigger rivers that would normally wash the trees downstream. It helps to fall the tree downstream a bit. I did this with some 10 inch willows and the branches took root in the riverbed further anchoring the tree. This was 10 years ago. The tree sprouted new vertical "trunks" along it's original trunk and is healthy. Please someone experiment with this and do a video tutorial. and share this post or knowledge. It's not that hard to do. Thanks!
Hinged method of tree cutting is really good for the river.😊
I love how you are all using ur social media influencing skills to create on the ground change
Omg! So true! Every wild river and creek I walked through had tons of trees inside the rivers.
Commenting for the algo and to support y'all! Love what you do, I've learned so much from watching y'alls videos. It's so exciting to see all the hard work y'all are doing and how much you're inspiring so many people.
I got to do something extremely similar two years ago as apart of the California conservation corps, although only a handful of the northern facilities actually participate in the salmon restoration project, it was an amazing experience. It was different because we actually had blueprints to follow and used a grip hoist as well as metal cables and pulley systems to move the logs and create the structures on the blueprints
Fascinating stuff!
Adding trees to the river means adding carbon based fiber, thus adding micro organisms to eat it, and eventually a whole foodchain moves in - just add water!
Another fine project!
The tree falling looked awesome XD
Might be a bit biased but the south west is the best place for wildlife in the country. It has nearly every habitat you can think of. Not to mention it’s one of the least populated places in the country which gives wildlife plenty of room to do its thing. Great work guys, can’t wait to see all the benefits from this, well done!
brilliantly simple. Love it.
good job, we have a 500m section of river and over 30 large trees have been washed into river over past 3 years, in some sections creating log jams and these benefits you outline
The late C. Jeff Cedarholm, phD, did some similar projects in western Washington State in like small streams. The project sites I saw were in stream reaches that were a little steeper. Had stumps cut a little higher. Bore hole in stump and log, attach them together. Inexpensive method of increasing woody debris. While the western red alder was native, except after large scale disturbance it is not locally the normal riparian dominant tree. Established after railroad logging in the 1920’s, its closed canopy makes return of the western red cedar and western hemlock very slow. So these were hand planted at sites when alder was dropped into creek. The hemlock start will producing long lasting woody debris in maybe in 2200 A.D., the cedar maybe starting in 2500. Faith in the future is part of project.
Messy Earth 😄. Love it.
We've had great results pulling or tipping trees into creeks, rootwads and all. I would love to see you show us where you're doing that. I see you're using some small trees. If you were to get a few strong come-alongs and a fiddle block system you could pull any of those trees over. The Root Wad/Ball will help hold the tree in place and the tree may even survive which could be a good thing in many situations.
Every time I watch one of these videos I’m like if I won the lottery this is what I’d like to do. Love seeing your work keep it up!
As an angler I want you to do this because it creates habitat for fish and their fry, which supports kingfishers l, herons. Gravel is needed for fish to spawn in.
Donation added guys keep up the amazing work
It’s nice 👍🏻 to see 👀 people who are putting in the efforts to save our world 🌎 and lives 💚that the politicians aren’t acknowledging or helping us with. Thank you 🙏🏻 for everything that you do to make the world 🌍 a better place to live!! 💚💙💛
Love it!
Cheers Paul :) - Rob
Go go go it is God's work, love from Montreal your native sylviculturist! 💐🎠🙋
I cant afford a membership, so my sub and view is yours.
We very much appreciate the support here on UA-cam, thank you! - Rob
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I also can't wait for the re-wilding course
In 2001, the Kent Wildlife Trust with the Wildwood Trust and Natural England imported two families of Eurasian beavers from Norway to manage a wetland nature reserve. This project pioneered the use of beavers as a wildlife conservation tool in the UK. You should see if you could get some for this project. Also in July 2022 saw the good news that beavers in England will be given legal protection!
I need to see more information on how wood in the rivers creates more habitats. I can easily see how opening up the canopy lets new flowers grow, but how does covering a part of the river bed with woody debris create a new habitat rather than just a different one? What relies on that which is missing? Beavers? Otters? Don't both of those move the debris themselves? Frogs? Maybe frogs. Gives fish a place to hide.
I'd like to see more, especially about how it affects gravel beds and what wildlife are affected by that. I would like to see way in which woody debris adds new pools and riffles to the river. Because those are clearly huge benefits to wildlife, but it's not clear to me how it happens or why. I would support this initiative financially if I had better information to support my decision.
People seem to forget it is called a flood plane for a reason, farmers don't want it to flood as it ruins their crop / makes the land unstable for tractors, or worse people build on it. You need an area either side of the river so it can change its route or break its banks, you cant control nature so give it space.
Wonderful work. So glad I found you. 💚
I specifically liked the hinged cut!
You guys at #mossy earth are doing great. Keep it up👌👌👌
Incredible !! Keep the good work going
Youre also doing a favor to adventurers that need trees to cross rivers
that was a joke but I realized some animals might actually use it for that so thats neat hehe
Ahah yeah no doubt the odd badger or fox might be making use of them! Cheers - Rob
Nice tree cutting👍👍
Thank you :) - Rob
Another great video. Love the map graphics, helps visualise where you are and it looks way better than a flat map.