My limits are very similar on all but ESPN and Bet365. I'm also banned from BetMGM and promo banned/mega limited like you on Caesar after I hit an error line in 2022. I'm mostly not limited on ESPN and Bet365 but it's probably cause I haven't done much arbing since late 2022 and these are newer sportsbooks. I still managed to have a positive 2024 just betting +EV stuff, but it's only 10% of what I made yearly from 2019-2022. I know France has some sportsbook limiting laws, but I don't know if any US politicians would back a anti-limiting sportsbook law right now.
@catsanddogsrock3 it was some college basketball game where it was live, but Caesars was showing pregame odds still cause they didn't have the start time right.
Just got limited on DK after 3 years. I intentionally picked the +EV parlays strat for account longevity over others like live arbs. Purely player props. The only reasonable workaround I see now is transitioning to DK's DFS pools and Pick6.
@ would they just limit that account as well or could they freeze the funds / go a step further? There’s not a lot of information I can find on this topic, a reality most people don’t have to deal with. Very few options in my state and the limits hardly make it viable.
@ for me, they locked my account. I explained to support that it was a family computer (or iPad) and so sometimes I use it; sometimes my wife uses it. They unlocked it and suggested I avoid going back and forth. This was a few years ago so I’m not sure if they still do this kinda thing or not
@@kleptodathief3946 p2 limited in the same way. And the hassle of a p3 just to be limited in a month isn’t worth it to me at this point. I actually had a p3 and was limited in 2 weeks at DKs. Also not super keen on the crypto to betting pathway. I know people do it and have success, but have also heard horror stories
@@greenmeansgosports most of the offshores are legit and use etransfers so u don't need crypto but u get more bonuses using cryptos...are u just whaling and arbing to get limited or its cuz u always win ur non arb bets and EV+ stuff?, i guess if ur profitting like 100 per day they cut u off?
I really wanted to know what your limits are on parlays? Been doing EV betting with parlays and having alot of success but waiting for them to limit me. Would like to know how much they limit you on parlays ?
@@wadewilderman7306 those are higher. And that’s a good strategy for avoiding limits longer. Very rarely do I run into limits on parlays that exceed my unit. But I’ve lost badly on some -2000 “locks” like it’s not always worth that kind of play just to increase the limit of another leg
Just recently got limited on DK after 3 years only doing +EV parlays. Very very sad but I def believe the +EV parlays strat is way better for account longevity than live arbing.
@@jaredhammon344 draftkings has been fairly recent and very aggressive. But mgm was back in 2022. Caesars at the start of 2023. Most books, these days, have no problem limiting within a month once they notice you’re there for blood lol
Draftkings is brutal!!! I'm a selective chalk parlayer not a CLV bettor and I can win like $10 on a mma parlay. They allow me a few hundred on bigger market straight bets.
Books do not like sharp bettors. You have to adapt your play style it is not sustainable. If you start an account and immediately start arbbing it is an immediate red flag. Traders at these books constantly monitor your account especially in the first month and are trying to determine what kind of bettor you are. Clv reports time on site bet amounts etc. Learn from your mistakes or deal with the limits your choice
Firstly im gunna compliment you on your charisma and production skills because there pretty solid sincerly, but im about to go off. YOUR ARBITRAGING , PLUS EV- ING AND BETTING LINE ERRORS!!!!!! lol what do you think is gunna happen!!!! Your not even a Real sports better, your cheating and stealing from them they should limit you !!!! lol. Your limits are actually amazing considering , you should be limited to like 1 dollar across the board on everything lol i honestly do know how your limits are so high being a top downer. The fact that your complaining about anything is pure irony and grinds gears sooooooo much lmao. (picture this in like a light hearted jokey like duh obviously tone , not an aggressive tone).
I don't understand how some of these guys are able to last years and make $50 $100,000 a year doing arbs and positive EV. How are they doing it? Like the guy at odds jam Alex or the Arbfather
@@mikemelanio9108 I agree. I also have some theories. None of which are proven, but I’ve given it a lot of thought. Some have literally 6 accounts. 6 players they sign up and operate their accounts. Or more. I know a very prominent Twitter Ev guy (you know him too) who’s on p9 for DK. It’s just not realistic for the average bettor. But it’s necessity for guys who have made it a career. I also think a lot of ev guys break even for 90% of the months, but have one monster hit on a crazy play that carries them. Lastly, I know of books letting certain players off without limits. Maybe not the ev guys, but I imagine guys like jFar and other Gold Boys members / Beat the Books guys are a net positive for the books. So let the “sharps” get down and they’ll bring squares. Again, just things I think about. Nothing known for sure.
Not sure if Alex using multiple accounts but Arbfather does. It's the only counter play to getting limit besides going to the actual casino and as far as I know, you aren't breaking any laws that is if don't do something stupid like identify theft or money laundering. Worse case scenario they won't payout if they find out you breaking term and condition.
I believe many of them literally move to a different state each new sports season. Tbh it's worth it for most if you are making $200k+/year and certainly worth it for a guy in his 20s making $100k+/year from it.
My limits are very similar on all but ESPN and Bet365. I'm also banned from BetMGM and promo banned/mega limited like you on Caesar after I hit an error line in 2022. I'm mostly not limited on ESPN and Bet365 but it's probably cause I haven't done much arbing since late 2022 and these are newer sportsbooks. I still managed to have a positive 2024 just betting +EV stuff, but it's only 10% of what I made yearly from 2019-2022. I know France has some sportsbook limiting laws, but I don't know if any US politicians would back a anti-limiting sportsbook law right now.
We sound very similar. I just managed to keep it going in 2024 with a little more volume and paid the price.
what was the line error
@catsanddogsrock3 it was some college basketball game where it was live, but Caesars was showing pregame odds still cause they didn't have the start time right.
Books are GREEDY as all get out.
Can you share the chrome extension that shows the caesars max wager?
Opened a hard rock account three days ago, already have the same limits as you. It's a brutal game we play.
Not too sure how people say they’ve been arbing for years, limited on like every Ontario Sportsbook besides FanDuel
Does live arb betting help not getting limited ? Because there isn’t necessarily a closing ev ?
Fanatics has me limited at $10 max wager on most bets. Good luck with them long term
Since I only do multi-player parlays, there’s little to no chance I would ever get limited, right?
Time to get your wife into betting! lol....new bank accounts
Best content available on this topic. Love the transparency. What is your experience with betting exchanges?
I'm just curious, if you aren't arbing the same book, how can a book tell you are arbing and limit you?
consistently beating CLV
Just got limited on DK after 3 years. I intentionally picked the +EV parlays strat for account longevity over others like live arbs.
Purely player props. The only reasonable workaround I see now is transitioning to DK's DFS pools and Pick6.
If you were to access another account, under other information can that be traced to the device you previously used?
@@HQBanger technically yes. I’ve had it happen with draftkings.
@ would they just limit that account as well or could they freeze the funds / go a step further? There’s not a lot of information I can find on this topic, a reality most people don’t have to deal with. Very few options in my state and the limits hardly make it viable.
@ for me, they locked my account. I explained to support that it was a family computer (or iPad) and so sometimes I use it; sometimes my wife uses it. They unlocked it and suggested I avoid going back and forth. This was a few years ago so I’m not sure if they still do this kinda thing or not
What state are you located in?
Outstanding video, my man! Thank you for sharing!
start using p2? signup at different books? theres gotta b 100s... and then the offshores like bookmaker,betovo,betonline,bodog..etc
@@kleptodathief3946 p2 limited in the same way. And the hassle of a p3 just to be limited in a month isn’t worth it to me at this point. I actually had a p3 and was limited in 2 weeks at DKs.
Also not super keen on the crypto to betting pathway. I know people do it and have success, but have also heard horror stories
@@greenmeansgosports most of the offshores are legit and use etransfers so u don't need crypto but u get more bonuses using cryptos...are u just whaling and arbing to get limited or its cuz u always win ur non arb bets and EV+ stuff?, i guess if ur profitting like 100 per day they cut u off?
I really wanted to know what your limits are on parlays?
Been doing EV betting with parlays and having alot of success but waiting for them to limit me. Would like to know how much they limit you on parlays ?
@@wadewilderman7306 those are higher. And that’s a good strategy for avoiding limits longer. Very rarely do I run into limits on parlays that exceed my unit. But I’ve lost badly on some -2000 “locks” like it’s not always worth that kind of play just to increase the limit of another leg
Just recently got limited on DK after 3 years only doing +EV parlays.
Very very sad but I def believe the +EV parlays strat is way better for account longevity than live arbing.
Thanks for sharing, when did you start getting limited?
@@jaredhammon344 draftkings has been fairly recent and very aggressive. But mgm was back in 2022. Caesars at the start of 2023. Most books, these days, have no problem limiting within a month once they notice you’re there for blood lol
Locking in a book on the John at work is so fucking funny... cause I do it everyday. Did it about 2 hours ago😂
@@austinweightman9225 I’m telling you. One of the most popular places to bet this generation
How long did it take for caesars to limit you
how much are you making per book before being limited?
@@fkm512 it depended on the books. Some I wasn’t even up, but the style of play I had (mostly straight bets. Good CLV) got me limited.
Will this happen to me if I exclusively use Fanduel and hit them for 25-40 bucks a day? or does this happen to bettors who are arbitraging?
7 bucks at DK is a steal. I’m down under 1 dollar. I shit you not. I was limited to 26 cents. Yes. CENTS on a prop bet.
Draftkings is brutal!!! I'm a selective chalk parlayer not a CLV bettor and I can win like $10 on a mma parlay. They allow me a few hundred on bigger market straight bets.
Do you have higher limits live betting?
Uh, yes and no? Slightly I’d say. But only on mainlines
Idea. All the gamblers go on strike for a month and bombard the companies with emails demanding NO LIMITS.
@@toddkobylarz4758 I’d be down. Unfortunately, I can’t see the masses coming along. But if you’re starting a sign up sheet, I’ll write my name
NoVig and ProphetX are goated books. No limits no matter how much you win
Jake Miller is a sportsbetting pro now?
Books do not like sharp bettors. You have to adapt your play style it is not sustainable. If you start an account and immediately start arbbing it is an immediate red flag.
Traders at these books constantly monitor your account especially in the first month and are trying to determine what kind of bettor you are. Clv reports time on site bet amounts etc. Learn from your mistakes or deal with the limits your choice
how is that a mistake.... people don't think about how it looks?
Firstly im gunna compliment you on your charisma and production skills because there pretty solid sincerly, but im about to go off. YOUR ARBITRAGING , PLUS EV- ING AND BETTING LINE ERRORS!!!!!! lol what do you think is gunna happen!!!! Your not even a Real sports better, your cheating and stealing from them they should limit you !!!! lol. Your limits are actually amazing considering , you should be limited to like 1 dollar across the board on everything lol i honestly do know how your limits are so high being a top downer. The fact that your complaining about anything is pure irony and grinds gears sooooooo much lmao. (picture this in like a light hearted jokey like duh obviously tone , not an aggressive tone).
I don't understand how some of these guys are able to last years and make $50 $100,000 a year doing arbs and positive EV. How are they doing it? Like the guy at odds jam Alex or the Arbfather
@@mikemelanio9108 I agree. I also have some theories. None of which are proven, but I’ve given it a lot of thought.
Some have literally 6 accounts. 6 players they sign up and operate their accounts. Or more. I know a very prominent Twitter Ev guy (you know him too) who’s on p9 for DK. It’s just not realistic for the average bettor. But it’s necessity for guys who have made it a career.
I also think a lot of ev guys break even for 90% of the months, but have one monster hit on a crazy play that carries them.
Lastly, I know of books letting certain players off without limits. Maybe not the ev guys, but I imagine guys like jFar and other Gold Boys members / Beat the Books guys are a net positive for the books. So let the “sharps” get down and they’ll bring squares.
Again, just things I think about. Nothing known for sure.
Not sure if Alex using multiple accounts but Arbfather does. It's the only counter play to getting limit besides going to the actual casino and as far as I know, you aren't breaking any laws that is if don't do something stupid like identify theft or money laundering. Worse case scenario they won't payout if they find out you breaking term and condition.
I believe many of them literally move to a different state each new sports season.
Tbh it's worth it for most if you are making $200k+/year and certainly worth it for a guy in his 20s making $100k+/year from it.
Open an account in your mum’s name or something…
You deserve it honestly
Betting like a clown 😂 also there’s so many offshore books you can bet on making money should never Be an issue