BMW M6 (E24) - Fast Blast Review - Everyday Driver
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In our continued Fast Blast series, the guys climb into a beautiful example of the classic 80s M6. This rare 1987 example was recently reconditioned by Luxe Auto Spa and owner Mark but maintains a stock configuration.. So with time on a favorite high-mountain road, the guys set out to see how this icon drives by today's standards.
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One of the moast beautiful cars ever produced, simple as that.
firefighter5278 really is. Such class. It’s quick too 0-60 6.1 second I can’t imagine that in the 80s. Must’ve been a sleeper if the car was in black
firefighter5278
Agree, so why ruin it with those low profile wheels.
I drove them often in 1983/84 working for a car rental company.
I feel like bmw and alfa are on pretty much the same route with making their cars beautiful over the years. Something about the lights and the grill complimenting the look of the rest of the car
Sloppy BMW shifters are a result of a worn shifter cup and bushings in the shift rod. It's an easy $100 fix to make it firm and tight and will be just fine for probably the lifetime of the car.
Eric Dawson ^ This.
Bimmer Benz - This is a new series of videos for us, and the entire idea of the "Fast Blast" is to drive and review the car in the exact form it was given to us. Though we know any privately owned car could be set up differently, or have things changed out - we can't theorize what that would/could/might/should feel like. Sometimes these fast blast cars have been tuned, or are being tuned, or are set up improperly. In the small amount of time we have these cars we can only discuss what it actually drives like in the current set-up and the way the owner uses and enjoys the car.
A fully refreshed M6 would no doubt feel different. We hope that clarifies a bit, and we appreciate you watching and commenting.
Eric Dawson - Yep, I've never driven an old BMW that didn't have the shifter bouncing around like a puppy wagging its tail.
+Uberwagon Yes, that's true. But, the same is true of new BMWs with high mileage, so to state, as these fellows do, that it is a result of old technology exposes an unacceptable level of ignorance for persons presuming to provide reviews for public consumption. Any contemporary manual F series BMW with 101K will have just as much slop in the shifter, because the technology is exactly the same and the linkage is actually interchangeable! The Getrag 280 gearbox, which the M6 uses, is slightly notchy, because it is over-engineered for the 3.5 application, being rated at over 500 ft lbs of torque. Again it has nothing to do with the age of the technology. I wish the testers well, but they need to be able to put wear into context, and that only comes from experience and greater objectivity.
+EverydayDriver The steering box of the e24 allows for periodic adjustment to reduce that on-center play. Pity you didn't have a screw driver (standard) handy. No "refresh" required.
In this video: People discover that sitting upright in a car with good visibility is awesome. People discover that real buttons are awesome. People discover that light cars are quite fast without a lot of horsepower. People discover that naturally aspirated engines are nice.
Automakers take note, and stop designing heavy, tiny-windowed pill boxes with overly complex infotainment systems and turbos everywhere.
If only it were that simple with CAFE and Safety regs... That time has passed unfortunately...
smokesgtp Yeah, the new standards make it impossible to make nice-looking cars anymore. Good thing there are tons of nice old cars out there :)
Pardon my ignorance but how does the safety measures mentioned affect the car's aesthetics nowadays?
I believe they are referring to the numerous side and offset impact standards as well as side curtain SRS requirements. Some manufacturers overcome this a lot better than others, but it's probably currently impossible with today's materials and technology to meet safety standards and still have such a delicate and graceful greenhouse as the E24. Those twee little B-pillars and fragile looking A pillars are gorgeous but probably useless in a collision.
In this video: people discover that real cars are awesome, that a car looking sleek like a cool car not fat like an eggplant is awesome, that controlling your car not the opposite is awesome, that steel door handles not plastic ones are awesome, that glass headlights not plastic ones is awesome, that engine rumble is awesome, that dash with a few buttons not a million menus is awesome, that a car not speaking is awesome, that.......
On the old 6 series, I've always loved the unapologetic off center exhaust. Something about it just says "I'm better than you, and you'll have to get over it."
who lets these guys talk about cars
That's what I said !!
I had a 635CSI 25 years ago, it would have been an 8 year old car back then with 100k miles but I remember it drove so well, it was the 4 speed sports auto but it flew through the bends at insane speeds that I'd struggle to do with the latest M6 that I currently drive. I spent my life sideways in that old car, it was so controllable and so precise even as an auto but what a machine! :)
Toby Carter what did you end up doing with it?
"It's not a great driver's car." Sorry you lost all credibility there.
Oh yes it IS.... the E24 and the E34 allow us to appreciate precisely what driving used to be about - what it ought to be about. His remark couldn't possibly be more inaccurate.
Ahhhh visibility back when safety was not hitting $#!+
Even now in 2016, it still looks amazing and better than many cars. . Model was far ahead of it's time.
My dad bought a black 87 M6 in 1989 with 12k miles at a repo auction. It was incredible to drive. No slop in shifter, and it WAS a driver's car! White Leather. He sent me once on a business trip for him from Columbus to Chicago and I drove all night. For a while I had the cruise set at just over 140mph. Stupid now that I look back. But the car was so strong! 256 horses felt like 400 horses! There was just a feeling to the car like it had a soul. My dad is 84 years old now and he just bought a new Audi S6 V8T Quattro! LOL
Theses 80's BMWs are timeless classics. I have an 82 735i Euro spec. and a 2013 528i, but my favorite and the one u drive the most frequently is the old 735i. I have gone through all of the suspension bushings and shifter linkage and it drives very solid. I just love it, because there is no other car like it.
You can check it out here...
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+Man Garibay Ahh, nothing like 10 and 80's BMW's. Nice car u got there! Just get rid of those rims, they belong on ricers :)
dude i just recently got a 728 e23 with low mileage and the suspension of this 44 years old vehicle feels way better then many cars like audis 2000s i drove.
Most of your impressions of the feel were the result of 29yo solid rubber bushings (shift linkage bushings, steering rack bushings, suspension bushing) that were not so compliant when new. Please beg Mark to replace all the old rubber bits with new OEM stuff and let you guys borrow it again. I think you'll be shocked at how confidence inspiring an old BMW can be.
Adam Jordan Maybe a strut brace. and boom. confidence. This just tells me this marmadukes had no idea what they were talking about, more so the man in Red,
Exactly, replace the wear and tear parts and then review. So we get the feeling of what it was like new or the potential it has with parts replaced.
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Agree with you but otherwise the fun and the car will by destroyed let the idiots speeck dude!
...plus, if you actually drove a rear wheel drive, non-automatic regularly, then you wouldn't be long revising your incorrect remarks. Legend of a car, full stop.
I have owned a 1987 M6 since 1992. The shifter does not have any slop and it steers most precisely. I also have 2001 E55 and that car does have me wondering if it will have traction through curves before it digs in . My M6 always is confidence inspiring and a simple twitch of steering wheel brings it back in line without drama if I let the rear out. I think the one they test drove need steering and shifter bushings as previous reader wrote. Mine is all stock except for new rims and tires and a Dinan chip which really brings the engine to life with another 38 hp and same amount of torque increase.. The seats are fantastic..I do not understand these guys driving this car and their not understanding nor appreciating its virtues.
The greenhouse of the old BMWs is incredible... So much glass and visibility.
What happened to today's BMWs???
or any modern car for that matter. I drive 95 golf estate, and i can park that thing anywere, no parking assist. when i get in a modern car its like driving a tank, you cant see anything around. no wonder they need all the parking gizmos and cameras for backing up.
Ol' boy needs a new shift bearing
Such a simple design yet still eye catching to this day,BMW definetly knew how to style car back then with the E21 E24 And E28
Back when BMW was amazing
This is my absolute favorite BMW. I think that BMW should make an entry level retro-styled car with design language harping back to the 80's. It would have round headlights, boxy proportions, and driving characteristics centered around driver involvement. BMW has been making dozens of cross-overs lately, it would be cool if they made something different, such as this.
they would charge US $100k for it if they did. And it would be 4000 lbs. they cant build this anyway, its illegal.
I wish more modern cars had outward visibility like this m6. That's part of the reason I chose the gti over other cars I tested.
I used to own and BMW 635 CSI and always wanted an M6. This was the sports coup that made the "sports coup" a sexy and elegant car. This style is ageless.
God that car is beautiful, I was just drooling over one yesterday.
One of the things I like about this show is the editing... the back and forth between two points of view.
this is like a more mature "One Take", but I like it!
I got to drive one in 1987:). I was in high school and worked at a BMW dealer detailing cars. Drove it to the owners home.
I used to sneak my stepfather's L6 when he went on vacation. It was light blue metallic with the same parchment interior. I loved that car so much I went and got my own 2006 version when I was able to afford it. BMW makes the best grand touring cars.
I bet my right nut that the shifter or the steering were not sloppy back in 1987 when this beauty rolled out of the factory in Bavaria.. A 30 year old car propably use a set of new shocks and roll bars too..
I hate to break the news to you guys who are quick to say "wasn't bred or meant to be a track car" but the E24 was a DIRECT result of a crisis in racing at the time and in order for BMW to compete in a certain class of racing, they had to back their "race" car up with a production model. Hence the E24 6 series Coupe. It's BIGGER brother, that consequently never made it to the track, at least at that time was the beautiful BMW M1. It's the ONLY BMW that has been assigned 2 Roundels on its rear. That was because the engineers and designers wanted EVERYONE to NOT mistaken it for any other exotic breed. I.e. Ferrari, Lamborghini etc. My 2 cents.....Research before you criticize. I did before I bought my 85 E24.
What a great looking car. I'm old. I remember these new. Very nice.
256hp for a car in the 80s is a lot. We still have cars at 150hp now a days.
Still not a lot Infiniti G37 has 330hp
286 bhp on the M635csi. 0-60 approx 6 seconds and 155 top speed.
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@@fight6137 Surely yours is tuned though?
It's not much, that is the US numbers for it.... the European numbers are 282 BHP, remember all engines were de tuned for the USA at the time..... Mercedes brought out the 560 V8 to compensate for the 500 being de tuned in the USA....
For gawds sake, replace the worn out rubber bushings everywhere with new or polyurethane bushes, and the tie rod ends etc and this car will travel better than ever.
Yes!! This is one of the few cars on my dream car list. It has a certain style and character that is hard to find in many cars
TOP video... I just love this gen (E24). Always seeking for 635csi videos and adds in the used car market, but this overly exclusive M6 is even better. It is just amazing. I am starting to change my mind about the 80's in many ways. There were a lot of good things after all, and this is clearly one of them! I will watch it again just because... :D
I had once a 1978 Opel Commodore B GS/E. It had an inline six Senator engine. Nice sound mid size muscle car like this M6 Bimmer. Two door coupe. Loved it. Cool car.
Love that greenhouse
So cool to see this car up close. Thanks for the review.
I drove one of these back in 1987 as a 17 year old. My parents were having a party and needed more ice. Their friend's M6 was at the end of the driveway and I was tossed the keys. Picked up a friend down the street and we blasted into town for some bags of ice. First time I hit 100mph in a car. I had no idea how rare these are, but I knew it was a special car from the beginning.
I had the Tester's model too! This shark is my favorite BMW (and I have owned several BMWs). This is the one that started it all. I still have the sales brochure in a comic book sleeve. I bought a 560SEC when I wanted my big coupe ONLY because, in the days before the Internet, I couldn't find an E24 that hadn't been thrashed to pieces. Love this car. One of my grails. Kudos on a beautiful shark.
I saw a black one today in MINT condition. The only thing minutely wrong with it was a very small amount of dirty water splatter from a Sunday drive. Wow.. Absolutely beautiful to see an m6 in the middle of the shopping center I hang out at.
There's no denying it. Something magical happened in the 80's. It's not just that their hair was more buoyant, their choruses catchier, their spandex tighter and their glutes perkier. It's that now they're all in their sixties, and their hair is still buoyant, their choruses are still catchy, their spandex is still tight, and their glutes are still perky. And whatever they've been taking, the M6 has been taking twice the dose.
A stunning legacy
Always like the reviews from you guys. Honest feedback and I like the juxtaposition between the two of you. After watching a few of these Fast Blasts, just some personal fan feedback: just enjoy the cars and let us enjoy them too. A proud owner lets you drive their car. Show just a tad bit of respect and dare I say, restraint when criticizing it. A 1987 M6 is a rare thing of beauty but throughout the entire review, you utter passive aggressive dismissals of the car because it's...old? Suggestion: drive the car, remind us of the glory of the car back then, what made it special then and now, and for god's sake, make the owner (and others who might want to participate) feel great that you love their car just as much as they do. New car reviews, bash the shit out of them. Fans rides, save the heavy criticism for off camera, but let us (and them) have their moment. And might I just give some very succinct commentary? This: "I mean, a huge thanks to Mark for letting us drive it. It is a lot of fun to drive; it's a real experience, but it's not a great drivers car." It doesn't get any more obtuse than that. To end the review on a low like that was in poor taste. Please, I love the series. I'm liking the new direction, but don't do this again.
Melvin Hale - We do appreciate your perspective, and as you stated these fast blasts are a new and evolving series. We believe it's important to carry the honest feedback you enjoy into every car. New or old, we never set out to bash anything, but always give a straightforward assessment of both the good and the bad. Mark, the owner of this M6, enjoyed this review and even told us he felt we overlooked a few things that aren't right on his M6 (things un-mentioned because they are being fixed or are broken because of the cars age). If a car is set-up improperly or not as good as the audience might expect, we want to mention because we believe you, the audience, would notice them if you drove the car. Others have commented that they appreciate us still bringing our same style to older cars and pointing out the good and bad. We hope it will be helpful for those who might consider buying one instead of a newer car.
Loving on a car or stating only the good things just because we got to drive it seems unhelpful and dishonest to us. But we must try to not overstate problems with a specific example we drive, or present caveats when necessary. There is work for us to do here, and we appreciate your feedback. Thanks for watching and liking what we do!
EverydayDriver Gentlemen I appreciate the response! I'm still a fan and will continue to enjoy the show. Once I'm out in California in a month, I'll reach out to you guys. Maybe you'll enjoy taking a spin in my E39 M5. :)
EverydayDriver Agree to an extent, but.... at the same time, when complaining about things like steering feel and the shifter, it would be nice in the wrap up to say something like..." A huge thanks to Mark for letting us drive it. It is a lot of fun to drive; it's a real experience, there are just a few things that need to be sorted out to make it a great driver's car - the steering and the shifter would benefit from readily available bits from vendors like Bavarian Auto, etc. A car this good and the owner deserve to have these things sorted". Right? Of course I am right.
+Erik Pendleton Very much agree
@@SenecaTheDreamer ...now, THAT's a driver's car!! ;^)
How bout replace that shifter bushing?
I got to drive one of these cars brand new when I worked for a BMW dealer back in the day. The E24 and E28 are the only 2 BMW's I have ever liked.
Thank you, Todd & Paul! Very honest review. This M6 would handle very well with polyurethane bushings. I'm sure the owner will go through it and upgrade eventually.
254bhp? We got 286 in Europe. You unfortunate relations with your detuned versions :-(
But you were even more shafted with the E36 M3, wasn't it 240 vs 320?
Not without some serious modifications it wouldn't. Did you really fail to appreciate that my reference was to unmodified cars?
And that's right little guy, you should be swearing and angry, the way those twisted emissions regulations fucked Americans over on those early M3s.
This is the type of review that would bring Down the value of my maserati coupe it is not a supercar or track car but its aura is the same of the m6 e24
How can you do a review on a car with not ONCE, letting the viewers listen to the engine at full throttle throughout throughout the rev range? I "was" really excited to see this video
Thanks guys...this is one of my top ten cars, I have an e85 and a e70 diesel. An e24 would make my eclectic stable one to cherish.
I agree, this is one of the best looking BMWs ever designed.
What an awesome GT cruiser. So happy you guys did a review of my favourite BMW! I have a Euro 635csi, so much better looking without the US bumpers. A refresh of the shifter bushings and suspension will bring it back to its best. Love the old school reviews, keep it up.
Oddly enough, their take on the driving experience reminds me of the '99 Chevy S10 I drive for work.
This and the 2002 Turbo are my favorite classic BMW's
I have just picked up one of these with
@@dougquon1174 Thanks Doug.
I respect this car for the survivel of the years somthing most of the other brands dont haw old cars
The real GT of that era was the Porsche 928, PERIOD!
Looks like brand new! Awesome coupe!
I think the car would never get old to drive for long distances even though it's old
This and the E30 M3 in my opinion are the best looking BMW’s of all time. They’re just gorgeous to look at
Imagine that, a 30+ year old car drives and feels like a classic. Who would have ever thought?
The 6 series is one mean looking car....The shark nose front just says it all. One of my favourites.
My dad had this when I was younger
With RADwood now, this would be a great car for fun weekends and road trips.
Great review! Thanks guys.
You can't enjoy this car unless all the bushings are replaced all at the same time as others have stated. Also, the best way to appreciate the period technology that was put into the e24 is to drive a car in the same class of that era. Finally, driving a modern day car on the highway and taking the exit ramp at let's say 60mph is pretty uneventful. Doing so in an e24 demands all six senses lol...and that's arguably the greatest virtue of this car..
"More classic than agile" sounds like "more awesome than forgettable" :P But I have an old head on young shoulders.
HS friend's dad, had one of these NEW... Coool Car 👍
This car would be a Perfect, Retro-Mod ! Modern M parts..
A minor correction, They keep referring to the Steering Rack... the E24 still use a recirculating ball type steering box. I had a 1985 635CSi and the steering didn't have the play/looseness being referenced here. I think this M6 needs some maintenance!
love the Straight 6 !! I miss my CSI.
Favourite BMW
That one looks pretty nice, but it doesn't seem to be the greatest example of an M6 to be honest, since the steering and shifter are usually far better on these. Tight and responsive steering is one of the things these cars are known for, and given that it seems like some modifications have been done to the suspension it is possible those mods weren't exactly... done well. Good video though, I realize that you guys have to base your thoughts on the example you had the chance to drive, and obviously even the most serious car junkie isn't going to be 100% familiar with how every car ever is suppose to operate, and with cars of this age experiences are going to vary. Keep up the good work! Love this series.
A Garagistic chassis mounted shifter and selector rod would fix those issues.
Once you get one of these over 8 /10ths on a back road or on a track it shows you an entirely new personality and suite of talents. This is a great review but that did not happen here for understandable reasons. Unlike like modern M cars where you hit a button to change personalities the e24 M6 and all early M car were amazing comfortable grand tourers but when you focused and got on them hard they did magical things most sports cars of the time could not pull off. That is part of what made the early M cars so special and unique and how they created a entirely new segment .
That car is so wicked
The eurospec version is nicer doesn't have those big boat bumpers
Love this type of review. It gives a great insight into modern cars and just how capable even budget minded cars are from the factory, compared to some of their highly ranked predecessors.
I be it's hard to put into words what a Porchse 918 or a Koenigsegg one:1 would feel like; that really is a modern day sensation.
I kinda hate it when people talk about the loose steering and shifter. replace the tie rods and shifter cup. my 82 633 feels very solid.
Because it is classic, and that's great 👍
spring is just about here and I count the minutes to get my e24 m6 on the road, this car deserves to be driven (Paul is right about that ) there are a lot of nice cars on the road today, but they don't get the attention like this '88 m6.
So beautiful!
Those Cars Growing up remind me not Miami vice but Spencer for Hire
One of my all time favorites. Make it a Euro model and then you're talking.
Good and honest review. People can slather over these old Bimmers and make it sound like everything since is worse.
Michael Cohen Exactly. I was fearing the same with this review but the guys totally surprised me. That's why I am a subscriber.
Why are you driving in 2nd gear at 5,000rpm? 0:42
I was also thinking wtf are you doing??
+Philip Cooper because he can and it will - It's not a prius. In my m5 that's where i always was - where the fuck are you...
+Philip Cooper 4000 rpm ..not 5000. it Begins with 0,1,2,3,4,.... take a closer look or see other Pictures.
+Philip Cooper Why is that odd, bmw e30 320i gets awake on 4000 rpm.
Nenad Grubjesic i think he means because of he isn't accelarating any more, only constant Speed driving. therfore he can choose higher gear :-)
Love the Video, but a small correction, this car WAS bred to race, the 635Csi was the race werks car before e30... This is the true brother to e30 m3....
beauty... art,
just saw one on the way home today.
They keep saying 'M sex' instead of 'M six' and this car isn't far of sex on wheels.
sooo sick i love the E30 M3 evo2
That one needs the shifter detent springs replaced. It should be a little loose by modern standards, but the detents should still be crisp and obvious. 287 HP in a 3150 pound car really should be fast, even by modern standards. The steering feel sounds about right, since the steering is recirculating ball and not rack and pinion. The S-38B34 engine didn't leave enough room for a rack.
You can easily see the E9 heritage in the E24’s.
Pray tell, how has clutch technology advanced in the last thirty years?
19 jealous 3-series owners dislike this video!
The BMW 3 series (E21) is more rare than the E24.
So i think the owners of a 3-series E21 should be very happy, not jealous.
What a rare and beautiful car! How'd you get one of these?
If you want the "drivers car" version get the E21
Bmw's 1987 M6 looks like it come from the 2015 era by the look of the styling and interior. I would swap the V10 even the latest M6 V8 for this one.
Glad it got the right authentic engine in the USA although down on power from 286bhp. Wonder why the us spec e36 m3 didn’t get a proper m3 engine?
this is one of the best looking bmw's but i think the e9 looks better. still, great, great looking bmw coupe!
My Favorite was the 633CSI german model. .
my dream car , I want mines in White though ,, but i''ll take A Red or Black one if the opportunity ever presents itself 🙏🙏🙏
Vertical seating is the only proper seating.